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Title: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Josephus on October 06, 2020, 02:58:44 PM
Never a huge fan of the band, but he was a great player, and my high school years were certainly influenced by heavily does of Van Halen.  :(
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on October 06, 2020, 03:05:32 PM
Always sad to see a great guitarist go away. :(

RIP
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: The Brain on October 06, 2020, 03:05:52 PM
RIP :(
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: PDH on October 06, 2020, 03:28:19 PM
RIP

Eruption changed things, but I still like Spanish Fly best.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Caliga on October 06, 2020, 03:31:33 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

:cry:
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Valmy on October 06, 2020, 03:35:31 PM
RIP. Fuck cancer  :(
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Maladict on October 06, 2020, 03:48:00 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: crazy canuck on October 06, 2020, 04:20:26 PM
The heated arguments we used to have - Van Halen or Hendricks.

If there is an afterlife one can only hope they are jamming together now.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Barrister on October 06, 2020, 04:30:49 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 06, 2020, 04:20:26 PM
The heated arguments we used to have - Van Halen or Hendricks.

If there is an afterlife one can only hope they are jamming together now.

They were heated because you beat up anyone who said Van Halen, right? :unsure:

I mean I'm much more likely to listen to some Van Halen than anything of Jimmi Hendricks, but I can recognize the skill when I hear it.

Just to try to bolster that opinion... Here's Rolling Stone's list of the 100 best guitarists of all time.  Eddie Van Halen comes in at a very respectable 8th place, but Hendricks slots in squarely at #1.  https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-greatest-guitarists-153675/jimi-hendrix-7-37992/

But anyways - Fuck cancer.  RIP Eddie.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: The Brain on October 06, 2020, 04:45:16 PM
Prince at #33? This subjective list made to get clicks seems to be flawed.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: fromtia on October 06, 2020, 06:53:06 PM
Some sort of mistake surely? We keep trump but give up Eddie Van Halen? I'd like to speak to the manager.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: mongers on October 06, 2020, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 06, 2020, 02:58:44 PM
Never a huge fan of the band, but he was a great player, and my high school years were certainly influenced by heavily does of Van Halen.  :(

Damn.  :(
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Caliga on October 06, 2020, 08:46:28 PM
It's Jimi Hendrix. :sleep:
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Josephus on October 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AM
Not to change the focus of this thread, but I think Jimi Hendrix is overrated. He was great, but many others have come since who are greater. i mean, who cares what Rolling Stone thinks, it's been irrelevant since the 80s.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
On topic: RIP Eddie.

Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Caliga on October 07, 2020, 08:33:44 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AM
Not to change the focus of this thread, but I think Jimi Hendrix is overrated. He was great, but many others have come since who are greater. i mean, who cares what Rolling Stone thinks, it's been irrelevant since the 80s.
There are guitar virtuosos whose playing I personally like better (including Eddie), but no way anyone was more influential than Jimi.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Grey Fox on October 07, 2020, 08:38:09 AM
RIP Eddie

Quote from: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.

Yeah, we have Hendrix fatigue because we got no evolution. It's the same riffs, same melodies for 50 years but he's still the George Washington of Guitar.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: The Brain on October 07, 2020, 08:56:49 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 07, 2020, 08:38:09 AM
RIP Eddie

Quote from: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.

Yeah, we have Hendrix fatigue because we got no evolution. It's the same riffs, same melodies for 50 years but he's still the George Washington of Guitar.

Your post made me read up on Carver's Wiki. The sentence "He was often on the road promoting Tuskegee University, peanuts, and racial harmony" should be able to be said about more people IMHO.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: crazy canuck on October 07, 2020, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 06, 2020, 08:46:28 PM
It's Jimi Hendrix. :sleep:

Scuse me while I kiss this guy.


Quote from: The Brain on October 06, 2020, 04:45:16 PM
Prince at #33? This subjective list made to get clicks seems to be flawed.

Yes, it is deeply flawed.  It is really just a popularity poll rather than a list of skill.  No Lenny Breau in the top 20 for example.

But Hendrix should top both. 


Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Syt on October 07, 2020, 12:24:15 PM
:(

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Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Syt on October 07, 2020, 01:55:26 PM
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Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: The Minsky Moment on October 07, 2020, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 07, 2020, 12:19:15 PM
Yes, it is deeply flawed.  It is really just a popularity poll rather than a list of skill. 

it's worse then that, because it completely mixes up styles and genres and skills that aren't commensurable.  For example look at 22-24 which has in succession Frank Zappa, Buddy Guy and Angus Young.  On what basis are they being compared?   Figuring out where to put the blues guys vs the rock guys is an insolvable problem, with odd results like Bo Diddley imitator Keith Richards being ranked well above Bo Diddle;  Robert Johnson at the back of the bus stuck between Jack White and Kurt Cobain.  Other than the odd choice of Les Paul - best known for design and manufacture, and a couple fusion guys, there don't seem to be any jazz musicians, so key pioneers like Eddie Durham and Charlie Christian that everyone stole from are missing (not to mention no Wes Montgomery, Grant Green, Sonny Sharrock, etc.). Carlos Santana is in the top 20 (deserved) but John McLaughlin is 68 - odd given that they have played together as ostensible equals for years.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: Josephus on October 07, 2020, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
On topic: RIP Eddie.

Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.

OK. In 1966 he was the best.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: mongers on October 07, 2020, 05:32:31 PM
I shall listen to '1984' tonight in tribute to a great musician and fun band.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: PDH on October 07, 2020, 06:13:02 PM
I listened to "Women and Children First" last night.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen dies
Post by: grumbler on October 07, 2020, 07:37:51 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
On topic: RIP Eddie.

Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.

Yeah, it's like arguing that Shakespeare was over-rated because his writing is full of clichés.