Okay, why do people need to over-analyse The Wind In The Willows?
It was, along with Astrid Lindgren's "The Brothers Lionheart" my fave bedtime story.
http://litsum.com/wind-in-the-willows/
You know, I blame you gays for this. For over-analysing everything.
THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS IS A NICE STORY FOR CHILDREN!
You know, if I learned anything in the 2.5 semesters of German literature at uni it was that you can read anything into a story if you like and can argue the point.
Our example was Goethe's Werther and we read interpretations ranging from National Socialist to Communist to Structuralist to Existentialist and a couple others.
So yeah, you can interpret anything any way you like, and anyone can rape anything in that way. :weep:
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:mad:
That reminds me, I need to buy another bag of those.
Well, gays are at fault for everything that has gone wrong in society. However, I think the proliferation and meaninglessness of post-secondary education might have something to do with it. People get education and training in disecting the great works of the past. Then they get a job as a cashier at Wal-Mart. They turn their recently-acquired skills on what's around them.
Actually, I for one gonna agree and say that you are probably right in "blaming" gays for this.
After all, deconstruction is what gays and lesbians excel at. This is for a couple of reasons:
1. GLBT people are both insiders and outsiders, and thus have a good understanding of popular culture but at the same time have a penchant for viewing things differently, due to being outside the mainstream, as it were.
2. The most popular "themes" in deconstruction are gender, sexuality and patriarchy - three topics that interest gays and lesbians a lot.
So yeah, we are out to rape your childhood and then prove you are secretly gay for liking Spiderman. :lol:
Quote from: Martinus on July 19, 2009, 09:22:28 AM
So yeah, we are out to rape your childhood and then prove you are secretly gay for liking Spiderman. :lol:
I am a weirdo, I never liked superhero stuff.
what if I read Powergirl and Red Sonja?
edit: oh, right. I am objectifying women and thus reinforcing patriarchy.
Quote from: saskganesh on July 19, 2009, 01:02:25 PM
what if I read Powergirl and Red Sonja?
Then you're transgender.
Quote from: Syt on July 19, 2009, 01:03:07 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on July 19, 2009, 01:02:25 PM
what if I read Powergirl and Red Sonja?
Then you're transgender.
your answer is better as it's gay friendlier.
marti may be pleased to know that Toronto is so gay friendly that many homosexuals have become heterosexuals in order to maintain their cherished outsider status and deconstructuralist credentials.
Soon, they'll make Winnie The Pooh gay. Not the Disney one, he IS gay, but the old A.A. Milne one.
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Say, Tigger, how about some anal?
Quote from: Neil on July 19, 2009, 07:26:24 AM
However, I think the proliferation and meaninglessness of post-secondary education might have something to do with it. People get education and training in disecting the great works of the past. Then they get a job as a cashier at Wal-Mart. They turn their recently-acquired skills on what's around them.
This is quite the case with those getting a degree in a language. Pretty much useless unless you are going into teaching, really.
Speaking of Astrid Lindgren, wasn't she a dyke?
Quote from: Martinus on July 20, 2009, 03:37:09 AM
Speaking of Astrid Lindgren, wasn't she a dyke?
Lots of writers are. William Shakespeare, Oscar Wilde, all feminist writers...
Quote from: Martinus on July 20, 2009, 03:37:09 AM
Speaking of Astrid Lindgren, wasn't she a dyke?
Never heard of any substantial evidence.
Quote from: saskganesh on July 19, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
marti may be pleased to know that Toronto is so gay friendly that many homosexuals have become heterosexuals in order to maintain their cherished outsider status and deconstructuralist credentials.
Which reinforces my point that being gay is merely a trend, and we can reverse it with enough brutality and social condemnation. Except for when I want it to be a disease, in which case we'll use genetic therapy, brutality and social condemnation.
Quote from: Martinus on July 19, 2009, 09:22:28 AM
patriarchy - three topics that interest gays and lesbians a lot.
All gays and lesbians problems come down to hating their fathers? Couldn't feminists have chosen another word without blatantly admitting daddy issues? But the I guess most misogynists have mommy issues.
That's gay.
Quote from: Martinus on July 20, 2009, 03:37:09 AM
Speaking of Astrid Lindgren, wasn't she a dyke?
Pippi Longstockings kinda point to that, yeah.
I kinda am full of snot and bugs now, so I probably make even less sense than I normally do.
I just want to point out, THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS IS NOT GAY!
It is, at best, an anti-communist children's book.
Anti-communism is fine with me, as long as it doesn't slide over into derspiessian authoritarianism
And I'll puke to that, what with my stomach acting up again.
Quote from: Valmy on July 20, 2009, 08:24:44 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 19, 2009, 09:22:28 AM
patriarchy - three topics that interest gays and lesbians a lot.
All gays and lesbians problems come down to hating their fathers? Couldn't feminists have chosen another word without blatantly admitting daddy issues? But the I guess most misogynists have mommy issues.
Ironic, since Lindgren's book
Mio, min Mio deals with a son joining back with his loving, tender father in a magical kingdom. It was a boy's boy story, allright. :mellow:
Quote from: Norgy on July 21, 2009, 02:07:22 AM
It is, at best, an anti-communist children's book.
Anti-communism is fine with me, as long as it doesn't slide over into derspiessian authoritarianism
And I'll puke to that, what with my stomach acting up again.
:)
Quote from: Drakken on July 21, 2009, 11:40:50 AM
Ironic, since Lindgren's book Mio, min Mio deals with a son joining back with his loving, tender father in a magical kingdom. It was a boy's boy story, allright. :mellow:
I just thought it was sort of bizarre that a group of people who are so interested in the use of language and how it shapes the way we think about gender and so forth would have chosen a word that contains 'father' in it to represent the evils of male domination. Since they have done so much to promote fathers being more involved with raising their kids and so forth that was a strange choice.
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 11:48:37 AM
Quote from: Norgy on July 21, 2009, 02:07:22 AM
It is, at best, an anti-communist children's book.
Anti-communism is fine with me, as long as it doesn't slide over into derspiessian authoritarianism
And I'll puke to that, what with my stomach acting up again.
:)
You know, I'd prefer us not agreeing about stuff
But when it happens, I guess for once, we both are right.
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2009, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Drakken on July 21, 2009, 11:40:50 AM
Ironic, since Lindgren's book Mio, min Mio deals with a son joining back with his loving, tender father in a magical kingdom. It was a boy's boy story, allright. :mellow:
I just thought it was sort of bizarre that a group of people who are so interested in the use of language and how it shapes the way we think about gender and so forth would have chosen a word that contains 'father' in it to represent the evils of male domination. Since they have done so much to promote fathers being more involved with raising their kids and so forth that was a strange choice.
It is not that bizarre. Feminists (at least the non-radical Nazis) represent the father figure as an ideal of unconditional acceptation; a man unconditionally caring for their girls, accepting them as they are, helping they to grow up balanced, self-confident in the world, and comfortable in their sexuality.
This ideal of fatherhood is, however, devoid of authority, discipline, and repression which are paramount in the feminist vision of patriarchy, and where these are the traditional roles of the family
pater. The ideal father does not seek to mold the girl or repress her, rather concentrating on values like exploration, adventure, personal growth from encouragement to take risks, and tolerance. The patriarchal father, however, seeks to repress the girl's desire for freedom and exploration of her needs to control her for moralistic or ideological reasons, and thus hinder the girl's growth into an equal partner with men. The father thus become the first representation of patriarchy, and its role to keep women into position of inferiority through shame and coertion.
And despite their denial, Electra Complex still plays a role in feminists' relationship with fathers, just like the Oedipus Complex for boys and mothers. Girls still compete with their mothers for the father's attention because it is such a core element of developing their self-confidence at this age. Even the staunchiest of feminazis would say that they love their fathers if they did their best.
:lmfao:
This site has some awesome "analysis"! :lmfao:
http://cartoonoveranalyzations.com/2008/01/24/from-the-archives-my-little-pony-is-a-lesbian-feminist-separatist-colony/