Two decorated generals in Trump's administration are so afraid of leaving him alone, they have to plot together to keep an eye on him at all times. This is fine.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/344759-mattis-kelly-agreed-that-one-would-always-stay-in-us-to-keep-tabs-on
QuoteMattis, Kelly hatched travel pact to keep tabs on Trump: report
By John Bowden - 08/01/17 11:45 AM EDT
Two of President Trump's top advisers reportedly agreed in the early days of the administration that they would not leave the United States at the same time, in order to ensure they could monitor orders coming from the White House.
The Associated Press reported on Tuesday that Secretary of Defense James Mattis and then-Department of Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly — who was sworn in as chief of staff on Monday — agreed in the early weeks of Trump's presidency to coordinate travel plans so that one of them would always be in the United States.
The pact, revealed to The AP by an anonymous official close to Mattis and Kelly, seems to hint at the nature of the Trump administration's internal relations.
Both Mattis and Kelly have been active in providing clarification of executive orders released by the White House.
In January, it was reported that Mattis was drafting a list of Iraqis who helped the U.S. military and should be exempt from Trump's initial travel ban that prohibited incoming visitors from seven Muslim-majority nations, including Iraq.
Kelly was also active in clarifying that order, stating that green card holders would be exempt from the ban.
Keeping one adviser stateside hasn't always kept Mattis and Kelly ahead of crucial White House decisions, however. Last week, it was revealed that Mattis only had one day's notice of Trump's ban on transgender persons serving in the military, and was reportedly appalled by the decision.
Kelly was named the new White House chief of staff at the end of last week, when Reince Priebus resigned. The Trump administration has not yet named a new leader for the DHS.
"I have been fortunate to have served my country for more than 45 years — first as a Marine and then as the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. I am honored to be asked to serve as the chief of staff to the president of the United States," Kelly said in a statement.
Quoterevealed to The AP by an anonymous official close to Mattis and Kelly,
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I'm waiting with bated breath for the "Al Haig" moment of this presidency.
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
I'm waiting with bated breath for the "Al Haig" moment of this presidency.
DONT YOU EVER SAY HIS NAME
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:D
Ouch, someone really wants both of them to be purged next.
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
I'm waiting with bated breath for the "Al Haig" moment of this presidency.
Trump getting shot? (Hello Secret Service, NSA and FSB!)
is he like bloody mary or beetlejuice where we say his name three times he is gonna appear?
Would that be so bad? With Neil and VM basically retired, we could use someone to take charge.
Quote from: DGuller on August 01, 2017, 09:41:21 PM
Ouch, someone really wants both of them to be purged next.
I thought the same thing...some people just want to watch the world burn.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 01, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
I'm waiting with bated breath for the "Al Haig" moment of this presidency.
Trump getting shot? (Hello Secret Service, NSA and FSB!)
We now get to add the SCRS, MI6, New Zealand & Australia service. Hi!
These guys aren't concerned about babysitting Trump, they're concerned about the Nukes; stopping Trump using them.
It's good and logical that people with years of public service and military service should have private discussions about being intervening if Trump attempts to do something disastrous for America and the world.
I did think about posting on this issue in the main Trump thread, but here will do. :D
Although I am sympathetic, this is basically a coup.
Do you mean a plot for one?
Military control of the civilian government is pretty much a coup, in my book.
Watching = control?
IIRC only Congress can declare a coup.
I'm sure it's something harmless, like a joint committee of generals to ensure public safety or something along those lines.
Quote from: The Brain on August 02, 2017, 11:25:57 AM
IIRC only Congress can declare a coup.
I think the Cabinet can as well.
Quote from: Scipio on August 02, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
Military control of the civilian government is pretty much a coup, in my book.
Even when they are appointed by the civil government leader from the military into the civil government?
To my euroweenie eyes, seeing so many generals on top jobs in the civilian government surely gives me an uneasy feel. That they're the sane, reasonable ones on the team gives me an even more uneasy feel. :P
Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2017, 11:31:18 AM
I'm sure it's something harmless, like a joint committee of generals to ensure public safety or something along those lines.
And calling themselves a 'junta' means they are trying to show the military's commitment to diversity.
Quote from: The Larch on August 02, 2017, 11:59:26 AM
To my euroweenie eyes, seeing so many generals on top jobs in the civilian government surely gives me an uneasy feel. That they're the sane, reasonable ones on the team gives me an even more uneasy feel. :P
That happens a lot.
Civilians: 'We want to spend 50 billion on new helicopters!!'
Generals: 'Um we don't need 50 billion for helicopters.'
Civilians: 'Quiet peaceniks!!'
Quote from: Valmy on August 02, 2017, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2017, 11:31:18 AM
I'm sure it's something harmless, like a joint committee of generals to ensure public safety or something along those lines.
And calling themselves a 'junta' means they are trying to show the military's commitment to diversity.
:lol:
Quote from: Valmy on August 02, 2017, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2017, 11:31:18 AM
I'm sure it's something harmless, like a joint committee of generals to ensure public safety or something along those lines.
And calling themselves a 'junta' means they are trying to show the military's commitment to diversity.
you, as something of a francophile, should be choosing the option of calling it a committee... :p
Quote from: Scipio on August 02, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
Military control of the civilian government is pretty much a coup, in my book.
During 1945-1993, they actually held control of the Oval Office itself. Praise be to Bill Clinton for liberating the country from that succession of military leaders.
May has already passed.
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 02, 2017, 11:23:36 PM
May has already passed.
I watched that the night before last, held up well over the years, Fredric March was particularly good.