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Title: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Faeelin on July 10, 2009, 10:27:29 PM
QuoteHuman Rights Prof. Opposes Gay Rights
By Julie Bolcer
Human Rights Prof. Opposes Gay Rights

A visiting human rights professor scheduled to teach at NYU School of Law this fall vigorously opposes LGBT rights, according to Inside Higher Ed . Thio Li-ann (pictured) of the National University of Singapore will teach a course on "Human Rights in Asia," but her dedication to minority rights apparently does not extend to LGBT people.

As a nominated member of parliament in Singapore, the distinguished academic fought the repeal of a law that punished adults who had consensual gay sex with up to two years in prison. During the debate over the law, she compared anal sex to "shoving a straw up your nose to drink" in a speech documented here.

The group for NYU gay and lesbian law students, NYU Outlaw, issued a statement on Thursday calling on the top-ranked law school to condemn the antigay statements of Thio. However, NYU Outlaw pledged to engage the visiting professor in a dialogue in the fall rather than call for her removal. "The board thinks it best to fight Dr. Thio's offensive views not by silencing her but by engaging in a respectful and productive dialogue about the boundaries of human rights," said NYU Outlaw.

In an e-mail interview with Inside Higher Ed, Thio questioned the idea of a "human right to sodomy" and rejected the "imperialism" of the international LGBT rights framework.

"I think certain Americans have to realize the fact that there are a diversity of views on the subject and it is not a settled matter; there is no universal norm and it is nothing short of moral imperialism to suggest there is," Thio wrote. "Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no consensus on this even within the U.S. Supreme Court and American society at large, even post Lawrence v. Texas."

In the 2003 ruling, Supreme Court justices voted 6-3 to strike down antisodomy laws.

http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid97380.asp

Since the story's getting out and about, I thought I could post it. Though I should note the woman is far crazier than she appears here.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Jaron on July 11, 2009, 05:49:19 AM
In before the lock.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Strix on July 11, 2009, 08:03:58 AM
What's LGBT?

I am assuming it's some form of lesbian/gay/bi-sexual/transsexual?
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 08:47:35 AM
Too much lettuce and tomato with all that delicious bacon.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Martinus on July 11, 2009, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: Strix on July 11, 2009, 08:03:58 AM
What's LGBT?

I am assuming it's some form of lesbian/gay/bi-sexual/transsexual?

You are assuming correctly. (T can also be expanded into "transgender").
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Neil on July 11, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
Singapore seems like a nice place.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 11, 2009, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on July 10, 2009, 10:27:29 PM
However, NYU Outlaw pledged to engage the visiting professor in a dialogue in the fall rather than call for her removal.
Is this a euphemism for heckle?
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: The Brain on July 11, 2009, 04:56:47 PM
No offense but I think I will take the word of a human rights professor a lot more seriously than some lobby group.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Razgovory on July 11, 2009, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 11, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
Singapore seems like a nice place.

Just don't take spray paint.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 11, 2009, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 11, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
Singapore seems like a nice place.

Just don't take spray paint.

or gum.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: DisturbedPervert on July 11, 2009, 06:45:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 05:31:11 PM
or gum.

You can buy gum now, just only from a dentist or pharmacy and they have to record your name in a gum chewers database.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 11, 2009, 07:06:53 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 11, 2009, 06:45:26 PM
You can buy gum now, just only from a dentist or pharmacy and they have to record your name in a gum chewers database.
What do they do with that? :huh:
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: DisturbedPervert on July 11, 2009, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 11, 2009, 07:06:53 PM
What do they do with that? :huh:

I dunno, I assume it's so that if you're accused of leaving your gum somewhere you shouldn't, they have a written record that you actually did purchase gum.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Valmy on July 11, 2009, 09:43:13 PM
Quoterejected the "imperialism" of the international LGBT rights framework

Holy shit. :frusty:  Asking for rights is imperialism now.

Quote"I think certain Americans have to realize the fact that there are a diversity of views on the subject and it is not a settled matter; there is no universal norm and it is nothing short of moral imperialism to suggest there is," Thio wrote. "Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no consensus on this even within the U.S. Supreme Court and American society at large, even post Lawrence v. Texas.

And therefore LGBT people shouldn't fight for their rights?  Because there are homophobic people around?

And this is a person supposedly for human rights?
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: garbon on July 11, 2009, 11:56:52 PM
I'm a moral imperialist. :bowler:
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 12, 2009, 12:06:05 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 11, 2009, 09:43:13 PM
Quoterejected the "imperialism" of the international LGBT rights framework

Holy shit. :frusty:  Asking for rights is imperialism now.

This is why western multiculturalists are retarded.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: grumbler on July 12, 2009, 12:20:01 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 11, 2009, 09:43:13 PM
And this is a person supposedly for human rights?
Only insofar as they recognize "humans" in Singapore.

It's kinda like Marti talking about math or Beeb talking about individual freedoms:  you have to just celebrate that they even recognize the existance of the concepts, even if they don't understand them.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: DisturbedPervert on July 12, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 11, 2009, 09:43:13 PM
And this is a person supposedly for human rights?

She probably just wants government help getting her husband to stop cruising for cock.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Martinus on July 12, 2009, 03:05:00 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 12, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 11, 2009, 09:43:13 PM
And this is a person supposedly for human rights?

She probably just wants government help getting her husband to stop cruising for cock.

Considering she looks like this:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fadvocate.com%2FuploadedImages%2FADVOCATE%2FEDITORIAL%2FNEWS%2F20090710%2FTHIO_Li-annx180.jpg&hash=0d704adceeae5c49fed8bb84b7d676178252b7f2)

I bet her husband is taking whatever else he can get.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Faeelin on July 12, 2009, 06:57:52 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 11, 2009, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on July 10, 2009, 10:27:29 PM
However, NYU Outlaw pledged to engage the visiting professor in a dialogue in the fall rather than call for her removal.
Is this a euphemism for heckle?

Nah. The consensus was that she's so batshit crazy she'll look ridiculous, as she defends her decision to fine a home improvement show for showing a gay couple renovating a nursery or her book about the antichrist creating public disorder.

But yes, angry lesbians are always up for heckling.

Also, I made Law Review. BOW BEFORE ME.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Faeelin on July 13, 2009, 01:39:28 PM
Thio continues her spiral of sadness here:

http://abovethelaw.com/2009/07/dr_li-ann_thio_v_random_nyu_la.php#comments

HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: grumbler on July 13, 2009, 02:49:21 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on July 13, 2009, 01:39:28 PM
Thio continues her spiral of sadness here:

http://abovethelaw.com/2009/07/dr_li-ann_thio_v_random_nyu_la.php#comments

HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
If anyone here is every accused of being a "whiny bitch," said person should refer the accuser to this letter by Li-ann Thio.  It is the gold standard of whiny bitchiness, and pretty much takes the phrase out of common use.

I suggest "punk bitch" be used here from now on, retiring the phrase "whiny bitch" in her honor.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Berkut on July 13, 2009, 03:36:53 PM
Luckily, I am a whinny bitch, so her defining the term just missed me.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: grumbler on July 13, 2009, 05:49:31 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 13, 2009, 03:36:53 PM
Luckily, I am a whinny bitch, so her defining the term just missed me.
:lol:
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: garbon on July 14, 2009, 02:45:30 AM
You're an asshole, Berk, not a bitch.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Faeelin on July 22, 2009, 09:10:56 PM
And now:http://abovethelaw.com/2009/07/breaking_dr_thio_might_not_com.php

I'm pretty happy since this came without any student group demanding her rescission; nobody was willing to sign up for her class, while a thousand or so students, alumn, and former deans basicall sent the current Dean a letter saying WTF.

Oh yes, her threat to sue a student for libel for dispersing an article from a Singapore's University's Law Review about her efforts to censor the media didn't really help.

Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Neil on July 22, 2009, 09:15:49 PM
Wow.  Faggots really don't like human rights, do they?
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: grumbler on July 22, 2009, 09:33:11 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 22, 2009, 09:15:49 PM
Wow.  Faggots really don't like human rights, do they?
Not so sure about that, but I am sure that the legislature of Singapore does not.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Faeelin on August 01, 2009, 07:50:43 PM
Okay, so I've been asked to help write a piece and get interviewed by a Singapore blog about the happenings, and rebut an article in Singapore's Law Review about why to maintain 377A. It's kind of jarring. I'm not surprised that there are people in Singapore who ramble about bugchasers. I am amazed that people do so in the country's most prestigious journal of legal scholarship.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Jaron on August 01, 2009, 08:00:21 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on August 01, 2009, 07:50:43 PM
Okay, so I've been asked to help write a piece and get interviewed by a Singapore blog about the happenings, and rebut an article in Singapore's Law Review about why to maintain 377A. It's kind of jarring. I'm not surprised that there are people in Singapore who ramble about bugchasers. I am amazed that people do so in the country's most prestigious journal of legal scholarship.

You are prestigious, my love!
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Siege on August 02, 2009, 02:59:42 AM
Faggots are not an ethnic group, a religion, a sex gender, a nationality, or anything that cannot be fixed with just a simple choice.

Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Jaron on August 02, 2009, 03:14:08 AM
Quote from: Siege on August 02, 2009, 02:59:42 AM
Faggots are not an ethnic group, a religion, a sex gender, a nationality, or anything that cannot be fixed with just a simple choice.

:huh:

How dare you write something like that. What nerve you've got to think you can fix it with a choice.

Its fucking BIOLOGICAL, dumbass. Its wired into the blood, the brain, the genes. You can't turn that off by willpower without denying who you are.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: The Brain on August 02, 2009, 03:16:35 AM
Isn't being Mexican a choice? And that's why they are all incredibly stupid?
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Jaron on August 02, 2009, 03:48:51 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 02, 2009, 03:16:35 AM
Isn't being Mexican a choice? And that's why they are all incredibly stupid?

Excuse me, animal fucker?
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Neil on August 02, 2009, 10:52:35 AM
Quote from: Jaron on August 02, 2009, 03:14:08 AM
Quote from: Siege on August 02, 2009, 02:59:42 AM
Faggots are not an ethnic group, a religion, a sex gender, a nationality, or anything that cannot be fixed with just a simple choice.

:huh:

How dare you write something like that. What nerve you've got to think you can fix it with a choice.

Its fucking BIOLOGICAL, dumbass. Its wired into the blood, the brain, the genes. You can't turn that off by willpower without denying who you are.
Ah, but what is someone wired to be a faggot who never indulges in faggotry?
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Jaron on August 02, 2009, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 02, 2009, 10:52:35 AM
Quote from: Jaron on August 02, 2009, 03:14:08 AM
Quote from: Siege on August 02, 2009, 02:59:42 AM
Faggots are not an ethnic group, a religion, a sex gender, a nationality, or anything that cannot be fixed with just a simple choice.

:huh:

How dare you write something like that. What nerve you've got to think you can fix it with a choice.

Its fucking BIOLOGICAL, dumbass. Its wired into the blood, the brain, the genes. You can't turn that off by willpower without denying who you are.
Ah, but what is someone wired to be a faggot who never indulges in faggotry?

In denial.
Title: Re: NYU LGBT Group Welcomes a Visiting Professor From Singapore
Post by: Neil on August 02, 2009, 01:44:24 PM
Quote from: Jaron on August 02, 2009, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 02, 2009, 10:52:35 AM
Ah, but what is someone wired to be a faggot who never indulges in faggotry?

In denial.
Wrong.  It's possible to have a sense of morality, even if your brain is wired wrong.