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Manchester Arena: police confirm 'there are a number of fatalities' after reports of explosion at Ariana Grande concert (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/22/manchester-arena-evacuated-reports-gunshots-explosion/)
At least 20 dead! :o :(
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/deaths-injuries-confirmed-after-explosions-heard-u-k-concert-featuring-n763286
Sounds like it happened outside of the venue, near the box office at the Arena entrance, as the concert ended.
Damn, not seen this.
I should check in with my younger relatives in Manchester.
Summary
Greater Manchester Police say 19 are confirmed dead
About 50 more people were injured in the blast at Manchester Arena
Sources say police are treating it as a possible terrorist incident
Police carry out a controlled explosion on a second suspect device.
Rail lines blocked at nearby Manchester Victoria station
Ariana Grande concert was evacuated
A spokesman for the singer confirms she is unharmed
Reports at the scene saying it looks like a suicide bombing.
News here is reporting that the UK had been conducting a series of anti-terror raids in Birmingham and Manchester this month.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2017, 07:40:59 PM
Summary
Greater Manchester Police say 19 are confirmed dead
About 50 more people were injured in the blast at Manchester Arena
Sources say police are treating it as a possible terrorist incident
Police carry out a controlled explosion on a second suspect device.
Rail lines blocked at nearby Manchester Victoria station
Ariana Grande concert was evacuated
A spokesman for the singer confirms she is unharmed
Reports at the scene saying it looks like a suicide bombing.
News here is reporting that the UK had been conducting a series of anti-terror raids in Birmingham and Manchester this month.
Interesting that the BBC are reporting sources in the USA say it was a suicide bomber. :hmm:
Quote from: mongers on May 22, 2017, 08:15:49 PM
Interesting that the BBC are reporting sources in the USA say it was a suicide bomber. :hmm:
I know NBC has people on the ground in the area; suicide bomber scenes are rather distinct, what with plenty of evidence there. And over there. And some here.
Pete Williams brought up the fact that 22 May is the anniversary of the Lee Rigby murder in 2013. Whether that has anything to do with tonight, who the fuck knows.
So how is the latest Muslim massacre doing?
Quote from: Grallon on May 22, 2017, 08:51:03 PM
So how is the latest Muslim massacre doing?
Who said anything about Muslims? Could've been a Britney Spears fan.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2017, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Grallon on May 22, 2017, 08:51:03 PM
So how is the latest Muslim massacre doing?
Who said anything about Muslims? Could've been a Britney Spears fan.
You're being facetious now. Everyone knows that where there's a pride of murders there are Muslims involved.
G.
Quote from: Grallon on May 22, 2017, 09:03:38 PM
You're being facetious now. Everyone knows that where there's a pride of murders there are Muslims involved.
I'm the one being facetious? It's a known fact that Spears and Ariana Grande had been fighting a Twitter war as recently as last fall, which is more evidence than we have about any anti-Ariana Muslims.
IRA
Conservatives everywhere have to be thrilled with this, now they don't have to deal with the black US Army Lt that was stabbed to death by the Alt-Right White Supremacist.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2017, 06:23:43 PM
Brit Languishites, please check in.
How many Languishites in the UK would go to an Ariana Grande concert? And for those that would (garbon?), I doubt they would go to Manchester.
Quote from: sbr on May 22, 2017, 09:27:32 PM
Conservatives everywhere have to be thrilled with this, now they don't have to deal with the black US Army Lt that was stabbed to death by the Alt-Right White Supremacist.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.npr.org%2Fassets%2Fimg%2F2017%2F02%2F14%2Fgettyimages-632422058_custom-139b475af06ba67affb10f2feed71bbd19660569-s1600-c85.jpg&hash=d561eb717da486efcaca45ad9d1b5af2aa8947be)
Quote from: alfred russel on May 22, 2017, 09:38:16 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2017, 06:23:43 PM
Brit Languishites, please check in.
How many Languishites in the UK would go to an Ariana Grande concert? And for those that would (garbon?), I doubt they would go to Manchester.
Well my only UK based cousin lives in Manchester, but her children are now too old to be part of that likely audience, so I'm fairly sure they'd not have been hit, though it's slightly concerning as it's a significant travel interchange.
Quote from: alfred russel on May 22, 2017, 09:38:16 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2017, 06:23:43 PM
Brit Languishites, please check in.
How many Languishites in the UK would go to an Ariana Grande concert? And for those that would (garbon?), I doubt they would go to Manchester.
Why don't you give the autistic sociopath thing a break for a while.
Quote from: Grallon on May 22, 2017, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2017, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Grallon on May 22, 2017, 08:51:03 PM
So how is the latest Muslim massacre doing?
Who said anything about Muslims? Could've been a Britney Spears fan.
You're being facetious now. Everyone knows that where there's a pride of murders there are Muslims involved.
G.
That's funny when that Mosque was shot up in Quebec this year I thought you might have done it.
:(
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2017, 09:08:26 PM
It's a known fact that Spears and Ariana Grande had been fighting a Twitter war as recently as last fall,
You must be watching too much E!
Wouldn't be surprised if it was a returning ISIS fighter, we've been warned that several hundred of these will grace our shores with their presence now that their "caliphate" is fucked.
Never heard of Ariana Grande before now, I'm guessing her core audience are 13-year old girls?
Well that's... Wow.
Usually stuff on this scale sticks to London. Shocking.
Just have to hope it doesn't feed the idiots on the far right.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 23, 2017, 01:22:38 AM
Never heard of Ariana Grande before now, I'm guessing her core audience are 13-year old girls?
Prepare to be amazed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8eRzOYhLuw
So, 13 year old boys then.
Not bad, better than I expected, pity she didn't get Shatner for that video.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 23, 2017, 01:22:38 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if it was a returning ISIS fighter, we've been warned that several hundred of these will grace our shores with their presence now that their "caliphate" is fucked.
Never heard of Ariana Grande before now, I'm guessing her core audience are 13-year old girls?
She's pretty regular feature in top 40 pop in the last few years.
I have no recollection of any song of hers (although I sure have heard them countless times without registering), but she was pretty funny in SNL a few months back.
She does good impressions of other singers. :nod:
She's one of the long list of singers with name recognition but no sound recognition
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/22/europe/live-blog-manchester-arena/index.html
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAft6PYXkAQuzWG.jpg)
QuoteTrump calls attackers 'evil losers'
US President Donald Trump has condemned the attack in Manchester during his visit to Bethlehem.
In a speech alongside Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Trump said those responsible for the deaths of 22 people in Manchester were "evil losers in life."
"I won't call them monsters because they would like that term," Trump said.
"I will call them from now on losers because that's what they are."
He has a point, actually.
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 04:43:11 AM
He has a point, actually.
A childish point.
One person in that post sounds like an adult, one sounds like a middle schooler.
Childish gibes may resonate more with prospective jihadists.
I dunno, "Bring it on" didn't seem much more adult.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 23, 2017, 04:50:46 AM
Childish gibes may resonate more with prospective jihadists.
Calling them evil losers is going to get them to stop? :yeahright:
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 04:45:27 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 04:43:11 AM
He has a point, actually.
A childish point.
One person in that post sounds like an adult, one sounds like a middle schooler.
Well, one is the seemingly honest reaction of an impulsive moron, the other is the run of the mill, crafted-to-soullessness reaction of a professional politician.
And the point is, we SHOULD avoid raising these terrorist to some kind of demonic anti-pedestal. They are NOT evil masterminds with an agenda.
These people are Europe's version of school shooters - frustrated losers. Unfortunately, due to their heritage and religion, they were able to find a channel and amplifier for their frustrations
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 05:19:04 AM
Well, one is the seemingly honest reaction of an impulsive moron, the other is the run of the mill, crafted-to-soullessness reaction of a professional politician.
I dunno, man. I think it's a bit of a reach to call the suicide bomber a professional politician.
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 05:19:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 04:45:27 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 04:43:11 AM
He has a point, actually.
A childish point.
One person in that post sounds like an adult, one sounds like a middle schooler.
Well, one is the seemingly honest reaction of an impulsive moron, the other is the run of the mill, crafted-to-soullessness reaction of a professional politician.
And the point is, we SHOULD avoid raising these terrorist to some kind of demonic anti-pedestal. They are NOT evil masterminds with an agenda.
These people are Europe's version of school shooters - frustrated losers. Unfortunately, due to their heritage and religion, they were able to find a channel and amplifier for their frustrations
It is a bit rich positing that Trump is making that point as Trump's base of support is all about terrorists being evil masterminds out to destroy the west.
I don't get what is so great about honest reactions either but then I don't vote for populist politicians. :hmm:
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 23, 2017, 02:14:25 AM
So, 13 year old boys then.
:lol: She is a little cutie pie. And 13 was a long time ago.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 23, 2017, 01:22:38 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if it was a returning ISIS fighter, we've been warned that several hundred of these will grace our shores with their presence now that their "caliphate" is fucked.
One of the intel business talking heads last time said they estimate Britain alone has roughly 500 individuals with direct training and combat experience in Syria, never mind the thousands of wired sympathizers. It's nice you get to come home from something like that.
I was reacting to the facts that incidentally ended up pointed out by Trump. That does not make an uncritical supporter of Trump. He is a horrible scourge
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 05:41:15 AM
I was reacting to the facts that incidentally ended up pointed out by Trump. That does not make an uncritical supporter of Trump. He is a horrible scourge
You are giving him credit where basically none is due. I don't think anyone reasonable actually views us in a big masterminded war of islam vs the west. Also, I'm not sure that anyone thinks we should glorify terrorists, in fact, constant opinion pieces about how we shouldn't.
And again, Trump's support and stance on Islam is actually the narrative that boosts the profile of Islamic terrorists. The man who insists on stating 'radical islamic terrorism'.
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 05:52:15 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 05:41:15 AM
I was reacting to the facts that incidentally ended up pointed out by Trump. That does not make an uncritical supporter of Trump. He is a horrible scourge
You are giving him credit where basically none is due. I don't think anyone reasonable actually views us in a big masterminded war of islam vs the west. Also, I'm not sure that anyone thinks we should glorify terrorists, in fact, constant opinion pieces about how we shouldn't.
And again, Trump's support and stance on Islam is actually the narrative that boosts the profile of Islamic terrorists. The man who insists on stating 'radical islamic terrorism'.
You are overreacting. What Trump said, was true. He does end up saying true things every once in a while, like how his daughter is hot (can't recall anything else right now(. That doesn't make him any less despicable.
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 05:58:14 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 05:52:15 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 05:41:15 AM
I was reacting to the facts that incidentally ended up pointed out by Trump. That does not make an uncritical supporter of Trump. He is a horrible scourge
You are giving him credit where basically none is due. I don't think anyone reasonable actually views us in a big masterminded war of islam vs the west. Also, I'm not sure that anyone thinks we should glorify terrorists, in fact, constant opinion pieces about how we shouldn't.
And again, Trump's support and stance on Islam is actually the narrative that boosts the profile of Islamic terrorists. The man who insists on stating 'radical islamic terrorism'.
You are overreacting. What Trump said, was true. He does end up saying true things every once in a while, like how his daughter is hot (can't recall anything else right now(. That doesn't make him any less despicable.
Overreacting? I'm just confused on why you are giving kudos to a man for making a baby talk statement that. Should we applaud every time the president says something that isn't false?
Is it an established truth that terrorists like being called monsters?
I hate all these cardboard cut out expressions of grief and solidarity form world leaders etc whenever something like this happens.
Garbon, I did not give ANY kudos to Trump. I mentioned he had a point. You are overreacting because you can't discuss the validity of a sentence, because it was said by Trump.
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 06:31:33 AM
Garbon, I did not give ANY kudos to Trump. I mentioned he had a point. You are overreacting because you can't discuss the validity of a sentence, because it was said by Trump.
No, I'm just not interested in having a presidential kindergarten. Particularly not when he's complicit in the narrative that he's supposedly lambasting.
Quote from: Gups on May 23, 2017, 06:06:16 AM
Is it an established truth that terrorists like being called monsters?
I hate all these cardboard cut out expressions of grief and solidarity form world leaders etc whenever something like this happens.
What should they do instead? Ignore it?
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 06:36:08 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 06:31:33 AM
Garbon, I did not give ANY kudos to Trump. I mentioned he had a point. You are overreacting because you can't discuss the validity of a sentence, because it was said by Trump.
No, I'm just not interested in having a presidential kindergarten. Particularly not when he's complicit in the narrative that he's supposedly lambasting.
Well, your President being a 70 years old mentally stuck in kindergarten is a given. And yes, one evidence of that is that he was speaking out against the very propaganda that helped get him elected. I am quite certain that is lost on him.
Still, the point he made was valid.
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 06:36:37 AM
Quote from: Gups on May 23, 2017, 06:06:16 AM
Is it an established truth that terrorists like being called monsters?
I hate all these cardboard cut out expressions of grief and solidarity form world leaders etc whenever something like this happens.
What should they do instead? Ignore it?
I know what you mean, but I also know what Gups mean.
Reading the nice May speech about the "spirit of Manchester" is a bit exhausting. The same speeches after every attack -even if true and well meaning- grow tiring and just part of a horrible routine.
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 06:38:02 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 06:36:08 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2017, 06:31:33 AM
Garbon, I did not give ANY kudos to Trump. I mentioned he had a point. You are overreacting because you can't discuss the validity of a sentence, because it was said by Trump.
No, I'm just not interested in having a presidential kindergarten. Particularly not when he's complicit in the narrative that he's supposedly lambasting.
Well, your President being a 70 years old mentally stuck in kindergarten is a given. And yes, one evidence of that is that he was speaking out against the very propaganda that helped get him elected. I am quite certain that is lost on him.
Still, the point he made was valid.
I think the point you made was valid. You know after you took his sentence and crafted it into something meaningful. ;)
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 06:36:37 AM
Quote from: Gups on May 23, 2017, 06:06:16 AM
Is it an established truth that terrorists like being called monsters?
I hate all these cardboard cut out expressions of grief and solidarity form world leaders etc whenever something like this happens.
What should they do instead? Ignore it?
Would it matter much if they did?
:(
Salman Abedi was in a rush to die.
Quote from: The Brain on May 23, 2017, 12:31:29 PM
Salman Abedi was in a rush to die.
He had Abedi little eyes.
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 02:26:22 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 23, 2017, 01:22:38 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if it was a returning ISIS fighter, we've been warned that several hundred of these will grace our shores with their presence now that their "caliphate" is fucked.
Never heard of Ariana Grande before now, I'm guessing her core audience are 13-year old girls?
She's pretty regular feature in top 40 pop in the last few years.
and being neither gay nor underage, it is totally expected that we have no idea what she sounds like. :D
Quote from: viper37 on May 23, 2017, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 02:26:22 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 23, 2017, 01:22:38 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if it was a returning ISIS fighter, we've been warned that several hundred of these will grace our shores with their presence now that their "caliphate" is fucked.
Never heard of Ariana Grande before now, I'm guessing her core audience are 13-year old girls?
She's pretty regular feature in top 40 pop in the last few years.
and being neither gay nor underage, it is totally expected that we have no idea what she sounds like. :D
She does a perfect Celine Dion impression, look it up.
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 23, 2017, 01:13:27 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 23, 2017, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 23, 2017, 02:26:22 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 23, 2017, 01:22:38 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if it was a returning ISIS fighter, we've been warned that several hundred of these will grace our shores with their presence now that their "caliphate" is fucked.
Never heard of Ariana Grande before now, I'm guessing her core audience are 13-year old girls?
She's pretty regular feature in top 40 pop in the last few years.
and being neither gay nor underage, it is totally expected that we have no idea what she sounds like. :D
She does a perfect Celine Dion impression, look it up.
you trying to kill him? :p
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 23, 2017, 05:26:04 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 23, 2017, 02:14:25 AM
So, 13 year old boys then.
:lol: She is a little cutie pie. And 13 was a long time ago.
Agree. I was more referring to the robots and aliens angle in Tim's video.
WTF? Manchester attack: Police 'not sharing information with US' (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40040210)
QuotePolice investigating the Manchester Arena bomb attack have stopped sharing information with the US after leaks to the media, the BBC understands.
UK officials were outraged when photos appearing to show debris from the attack appeared in the New York Times.
Trumpland isn't a reliable partner? SHOCKING
Sad!
Quote from: Solmyr on May 25, 2017, 05:01:26 AM
WTF? Manchester attack: Police 'not sharing information with US' (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40040210)
QuotePolice investigating the Manchester Arena bomb attack have stopped sharing information with the US after leaks to the media, the BBC understands.
UK officials were outraged when photos appearing to show debris from the attack appeared in the New York Times.
Apparently the UK authorities wanted to wait another 24 hours before releasing for the suspect's name, and were not happy to read it in the US media first while they were in the process of searching for additional suspects.
Quote from: Solmyr on May 25, 2017, 05:01:26 AM
WTF? Manchester attack: Police 'not sharing information with US' (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40040210)
QuotePolice investigating the Manchester Arena bomb attack have stopped sharing information with the US after leaks to the media, the BBC understands.
UK officials were outraged when photos appearing to show debris from the attack appeared in the New York Times.
Yep
The Americans really fucked up on this one.
I do like the new attempted approach from the UK of not glorifying the attacker.
In what way were attackers previously glorified? :huh:
Quote from: celedhring on May 25, 2017, 09:34:57 AM
In what way were attackers previously glorified? :huh:
He means posting his photo and name all over the place as soon as humanly possible.
Also, it's a fucked up family:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/salman-abedi-sister-jomana-abedi-manchester-bomber-revenge-children-dying-syria_uk_59269eefe4b0265790f54143?utm_hp_ref=uk (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/salman-abedi-sister-jomana-abedi-manchester-bomber-revenge-children-dying-syria_uk_59269eefe4b0265790f54143?utm_hp_ref=uk)
You want revenge on America so you blow up a bunch of British people? :hmm:
I guess all white people really do look alike.
I am not sure what to think of his father. He needs to shut up.
Quote from: Tamas on May 25, 2017, 09:37:11 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 25, 2017, 09:34:57 AM
In what way were attackers previously glorified? :huh:
He means posting his photo and name all over the place as soon as humanly possible.
Ah. Yeah, I can agree with that idea.
Quote from: Tamas on May 25, 2017, 09:38:45 AM
Also, it's a fucked up family:
Quote
supporter of Manchester United and a user of cannabis.
Agreed.
Quote from: Tyr on May 25, 2017, 09:28:11 AM
I do like the new attempted approach from the UK of not glorifying the attacker.
Has less to do with glorification than it does with an ongoing investigation of immediate national security implications.
Seedy an apologist for the Brits? :huh:
Quote from: derspiess on May 25, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Seedy an apologist for the Brits? :huh:
FYI this was very good for Trump, fits into the narrative of the secret services being leaky cheeky little bastards, ripe for a proper purging.
Quote from: Valmy on May 25, 2017, 09:52:08 AM
You want revenge on America so you blow up a bunch of British people? :hmm:
I guess all white people really do look alike.
The British are just as guilty as the Americans in killing Syrian children. Well, those not killed by Assad. I mean, those that survived the Russian bombings. Those not killed by Isis either. And the Al-Nusra front. And the other rebel groups.
But of those that are left, they were killed by American aircrafts. And British. And Canadians, even if our planes aren't part of it. And the French too. Possibly the Belgians and the Danes. Danes are notoriously treacherous, planting their flags of conquests everywhere, if they can do that, they can do any evil. Never trust a Dane, it is known.
And the British are sharing again..
Quote from: derspiess on May 25, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Seedy an apologist for the Brits? :huh:
derniggerhater a fucking mouthbreathing monkey that hasn't been immolated in a petroleum explosion yet today? :huh:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2017, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Tyr on May 25, 2017, 09:28:11 AM
I do like the new attempted approach from the UK of not glorifying the attacker.
Has less to do with glorification than it does with an ongoing investigation of immediate national security implications.
Yes, it is looking like the bomber was merely a useful idiot; the relatively sophisticated bomb was made by someone else and that person is still at large.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2017, 04:42:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 25, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Seedy an apologist for the Brits? :huh:
derniggerhater a fucking mouthbreathing monkey that hasn't been immolated in a petroleum explosion yet today? :huh:
You two should open a bed & breakfast together.
I have to say Ariana Grande seems to be acquitting herself well in what must be a trying time for her.
Quote from: mongers on June 04, 2017, 06:11:09 PM
I have to say Ariana Grande seems to be acquitting herself well in what must be a trying time for her.
How so? What is she doing?
Quote from: Jacob on June 04, 2017, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 04, 2017, 06:11:09 PM
I have to say Ariana Grande seems to be acquitting herself well in what must be a trying time for her.
How so? What is she doing?
She just held a benefit concert with 50k people in attendance.
Quote from: Jacob on June 04, 2017, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 04, 2017, 06:11:09 PM
I have to say Ariana Grande seems to be acquitting herself well in what must be a trying time for her.
How so? What is she doing?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40142187/manchester-attack-ariana-grande-visits-injured-fans (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40142187/manchester-attack-ariana-grande-visits-injured-fans)
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40153433 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40153433)
I approve of Katy Perry's hair.