The discussion about 80s music made me wonder...
What was your "musical education", what your parents were playing in the house, the music you heard at family parties?
In my case, it would look something like that:
Grand parents, every goddam family reunion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BQW_JllILk&feature=youtu.be
Parents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMeT_8VP62Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJPI0ilAJQ
That's the stuff I had to listen to on our long car trips.
I think my musical tastes have evolved nicely over the years, considering my background :P
My mom was a big Elvis fan, so I heard a lot of 50s rockabilly, but really, you could here just about any type of popular music at our house, plus a good bit of classical, depending on who happened to turn on the radio.
The radio was tuned permanently to LA's classical and jazz stations.
Mostly classical. Some pop, like Harry Belafonte.
French county western is such a weird concept.
My dad was classical and showtunes - that made for long drives.
Mom stayed mostly up to date, she liked FM radio when it became a thing.
From my mother-Beatles, Dylan, Billy Joel were albums that I recall from her collection.
My two cousins who moved in with us when I was seven tuned me in to - Earth, Wind & Fire, Police, B-52's, Talking Heads, Clash, Prince etc...
Quote from: katmai on April 30, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
From my mother-Beatles, Dylan, Billy Joel were albums that I recall from her collection.
My two cousins who moved in with us when I was seven tuned me in to - Earth, Wind & Fire, Police, B-52's, Talking Heads, Clash, Prince etc...
Here have some shades:
:cool:
My dad usually kept the radio off. I discovered music on my own.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 30, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
French county western is such a weird concept.
that's mostly the only thing playing around here. :glare:
My father was not that much interested in music but when it happened, it was mostly country/western.
My mother liked classical music. She was often singing opera arias. I guess she influenced me since I listen nothing except classical music. Strangely, I only became an avid mélomane in the 20s.
Quote from: viper37 on April 30, 2017, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 30, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
French Canadian county western is such a weird concept.
that's mostly the only thing playing around here. :glare:
Fixed! :)
One of the seminal influences on my was a guy named Rich moving to town. He came from Napa, and he liked punk and new wave. I had already spent 6 or so years in Wyoming, so I didn't know of such things. In the summer of 1979 I learned of a far wider musical scene.
Quote from: Rex Francorum on April 30, 2017, 04:08:30 PM
. Strangely, I only became an avid mélomane in the 20s.
Did you ever see Stravinsky in concert?
My grandmother never played music at our weekly family gatherings.
My mother loved turning the radio on at all times. I think she mostly wanted some sound in the background and hated the silence. It could be people talking, giving lectures, or music. So it was mostly whatever the radio happened to play at the time. Mostly Canto-pop.
My father had an expensive audio system and huge speakers which he rarely used. I think he just considered it a must-have for his home.
My school was an elite school in HK known for its musical traditions. That mostly means having a choir that was almost invincible in competitions. My music teachers were professional choir trainers and managers. We mostly sang during the weekly half hour music class, and the teacher used the opportunity to pick the best students to join the choir. The school was also a Christian school, so we had to sing hymns every school day. I still remember vividly when one year the school choir came in second place in some competition. It was like the end of the world for these guys.
I was forced to learn playing the piano for eight years, like most other kids here. I had weekly lessons by private tutors. I was an absolutely awful piano player. I didn't want to do it, and only played the piano in the most perfunctory fashion.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 30, 2017, 04:23:47 PM
Fixed! :)
Poorly so. :)
French Canadians have traveled the North American West since the 17th century; the Anglo-Irish folk music that emerged in the West in the 19th century had much in common with their own Irish/Scot-French country music. They brought back tunes. They contributed tunes. It is no surprise that, later, people found musical kinship, and interest, to the developments of country/folk in the United States.
The only excuse Franco-French have for their love of Dick Rivers' style "counetrie" is their impoverished, Hollywood-inspired, imagination of the North American West.
I received a formal music education in school. :) I think I had a music class that met once a week in something like grades 4 and 5. I was trained in how to play the recorder. I was handed a recorder and supervised to make sure I didn't try to use it as a weapon (students that did not use the recorder as a weapon got an "A" in the class). To this day, I have still never used a recorder as a weapon.
My parents were from the 60s; so a lot of folk music, the Clancy Brothers, the Weavers, Buffy St. Marie, The Kingston Trio, Pete Seeger, and Arlo Guthrie. They didn't like Dylan; I had to discover him later, they did like Simon and Garfunkle, though. Once the culture passed them by they bought more easy listening and show tunes.
My Grandparents never left the Jazz age. While they grew up in the Big Band era, they liked some pretty avant garde stuff. I had once bought over some albums to a family gathering. When I had Smokey Robinson on my grandfather told me "Enough with this Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah crap, put Sun-Ra back on."
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 30, 2017, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 30, 2017, 04:23:47 PM
Fixed! :)
Poorly so. :)
French Canadians have traveled the North American West since the 17th century; the Anglo-Irish folk music that emerged in the West in the 19th century had much in common with their own Irish/Scot-French country music. They brought back tunes. They contributed tunes. It is no surprise that, later, people found musical kinship, and interest, to the developments of country/folk in the United States.
The only excuse Franco-French have for their love of Dick Rivers' style "counetrie" is their impoverished, Hollywood-inspired, imagination of the North American West.
:secret:
Dick Rivers is not exactly loved in France, at least for people under 60 i.e people young in the '60s or 70s at most. For the others, it's
ringard.
For someone mentioning Dick Rivers, you should know he plays (old-fashioned/Nostalgic nowadays) rock 'n roll, a bit like Johnny Hallyday. Nice try though. ;) Calling his style "counetrie, just shows how more interiorised is country music for you, unlike France. I was correcting Yi though, but once you again you take things personally.
If you want a good example of, uninspired, impoverished yet loved French version of American music, try French hip hop.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 30, 2017, 03:21:46 PM
My dad usually kept the radio off. I discovered music on my own.
Yeah, as far as my Dad was concerned, the Beach Boys were the alpha and omega, and everything else was just "bullshit" by "assholes." "What is this bullshit?" "Who are these assholes?"
Mom's been listening to the same singers and showtunes for 40+ years, which is why I know waaaaay more Streisand/Reddy/Murray/ONJ/Manilow/Mathis/Minelli/Carpenters than I should.
My sister and I had to discover our own music, so our education was like wallpaper, all over the place.
Mom is a huge 70s music fan - that's when she was a teen so it makes sense - so I grew up with David Bowie, Pink Floyd, Springsteen, Lou Reed, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, The Who... the likes.
Dad has never been much into music, he always had this Hooked On Classics tape in the car. God, I ended up hating that shit. Also some trashy Euro singers like Demis Roussos, Humperdink, shitloads of Italians. He liked Nat King Cole, too, that was alright.
Quote from: celedhring on May 01, 2017, 05:39:05 PM
Mom is a huge 70s music fan - that's when she was a teen so it makes sense - so I grew up with David Bowie, Pink Floyd, Springsteen, Lou Reed, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, The Who... the likes.
Dad has never much into music, he always had this Hooked On Classics tape in the car. God, I ended up hating that shit. Also some trashy Euro singers like Demis Roussos. He liked Nat King Cole, too, that was alright.
Did you say your parents are divorced? Asking for a friend.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 01, 2017, 05:42:48 PM
Quote from: celedhring on May 01, 2017, 05:39:05 PM
Mom is a huge 70s music fan - that's when she was a teen so it makes sense - so I grew up with David Bowie, Pink Floyd, Springsteen, Lou Reed, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, The Who... the likes.
Dad has never much into music, he always had this Hooked On Classics tape in the car. God, I ended up hating that shit. Also some trashy Euro singers like Demis Roussos. He liked Nat King Cole, too, that was alright.
Did you say your parents are divorced? Asking for a friend.
No. They might as well be though.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 30, 2017, 04:49:25 PM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on April 30, 2017, 04:08:30 PM
. Strangely, I only became an avid mélomane in the 20s.
Did you ever see Stravinsky in concert?
:lmfao:
Yes, I was not impressed. :sleep:
My Dad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu0zfvMhXNM
My Mom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beqVc3jTBSM
Both: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8YKETxJ3b0
When I grew up, I thought all parents liked music like that. I was sorely mistaken, with many preferring classic rock, blues etc.
My sisters: 80s pop, but also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUN8BVGHR_c
We had music class in school, which got me interested in classical music. Through school mates I later discovered metal and branched out into classic rock, etc. These days I can listen to pretty much anything except volksmusik and schlager (as linked).
Quote from: alfred russel on May 01, 2017, 04:20:49 PM
I received a formal music education in school. :) I think I had a music class that met once a week in something like grades 4 and 5. I was trained in how to play the recorder. I was handed a recorder and supervised to make sure I didn't try to use it as a weapon (students that did not use the recorder as a weapon got an "A" in the class). To this day, I have still never used a recorder as a weapon.
Dammnit, I was sure it was Mr. 4Heisman in the conservatory with a recorder.
I did take piano lessons when I was in grade school. I still play now and then, though I'm not at all good at it. I think that helped develop my interest in classical music.
Oh, and I've never used a piano as a weapon.
Quote from: celedhring on May 01, 2017, 05:39:05 PM
Dad has never been much into music, he always had this Hooked On Classics tape in the car.
My parents had that on 8-track. They also used to go to "Pops" concerts. I thought it was okay at the time, but eventually I learned there was a great deal more to classical music than that.
Queen
Queen
Queen
+ WQXR (classical - NY public radio) growing up (yes I'm a cliché) and my Dads album collection - virtually all classical.
+ As a small kid the sitters used to play the only three non-classical albums in my parent's collection on the record player. To this day I know the words to all the songs in Sgt. Peppers . . .
+ School bus used to play mostly Top 40, later my ride to school played the local AOR station.
Much of the music I listen to now I didn't know anything about until around age 20.
The radio was usually news or classical. Opera on Saturdays. Parent's albums were eclectic, with a lot of comedy (Steve Martin, Tom Lehrer, Bob Newhart, Allan Sherman, Spike Jones, Smothers Brothers) and a bit of mainstream (Beatles).
Older siblings filled out my education, with the Who, Queen, Weird Al, Scorpions and many others.
Quote from: viper37 on April 30, 2017, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 30, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
French county western is such a weird concept.
that's mostly the only thing playing around here. :glare:
Should be French country
eastern. ;)
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2017, 12:32:46 PM
Quote from: viper37 on April 30, 2017, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 30, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
French county western is such a weird concept.
that's mostly the only thing playing around here. :glare:
Should be French country eastern. ;)
Well, apparently, there is a huge distinction between American country, Western and French Canadian country. Not an expert, don't want to be one, so I don't really care however they call it ;)
Quote from: viper37 on April 30, 2017, 01:04:43 PM
The discussion about 80s music made me wonder...
What was your "musical education", what your parents were playing in the house, the music you heard at family parties?
In my case, it would look something like that:
Grand parents, every goddam family reunion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BQW_JllILk&feature=youtu.be
Parents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMeT_8VP62Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJPI0ilAJQ
That's the stuff I had to listen to on our long car trips.
I think my musical tastes have evolved nicely over the years, considering my background :P
Cash, Jennings, Haggard, Coe, etc
My first record bought: Genesis Abacab. 1981.
SHUT UP.
Before that I listened to my older brothers albums.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2017, 07:51:13 PM
My first record bought: Genesis Abacab. 1981.
SHUT UP.
I see your 1981 allowance, and raise you my first paid-for LP: Hall and Oates, Private Eyes.
My Dad was a huge music fan right until about 1975 so when I was a kid everything was from 1965 to 1975. It was kind of embarrassing when the other kids would make fun of me for listening to Paul Simon and the Rolling Stones instead of New Wave. NOW WHO IS LAME?
In my music class, the kids could bring in their records. One day, somebody brought in AC/DC. We all got a lecture about the devil music that day from her.
I think it was For Those About To Rock. I mainly remember this nice young teacher flip the fuck out.
Fuck, I wasn't allowed to listen to any of that stuff back then...KISS, AC/DC, nothing like that. Hell, I had to sneak in a friend's copy of Motley Crue's Shout at the Devil in a BASF cassette case. Which I wrapped in a bag. Which I buried at the bottom of my book bag.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2017, 07:58:45 PM
In my music class, the kids could bring in their records. One day, somebody brought in AC/DC. We all got a lecture about the devil music that day from her.
I think it was For Those About To Rock. I mainly remember this nice young teacher flip the fuck out.
We had a documentary about the dangers of Heavy Metal while in (private) high school. Right around the time some kid committed suicide after listening to a reversed Judas Priest tape (stuff we miss with the digital age -_- ).
I guess it had a positive influence on my musical development. :P
Quote from: viper37 on May 02, 2017, 08:10:43 PM
Right around the time some kid committed suicide after listening to a reversed Judas Priest tape (stuff we miss with the digital age -_- ).
Did it tell him to join the navy?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
Fuck, I wasn't allowed to listen to any of that stuff back then...KISS, AC/DC, nothing like that. Hell, I had to sneak in a friend's copy of Motley Crue's Shout at the Devil in a BASF cassette case. Which I wrapped in a bag. Which I buried at the bottom of my book bag.
My closest friends&neighbours were forbidden by their parents to listen to most pop music while we were in elementary school. Stuff like Michael Jackson, Boy George, Madonna. Ah, religion. :)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
Fuck, I wasn't allowed to listen to any of that stuff back then...KISS, AC/DC, nothing like that. Hell, I had to sneak in a friend's copy of Motley Crue's Shout at the Devil in a BASF cassette case. Which I wrapped in a bag. Which I buried at the bottom of my book bag.
Man, we could listen to whatever we wanted. WASP's Fuck Like A Beast? Go ahead. Mom and Dad might roll their eyes at what they considered shitty music but didn't stop us kids.
Trying to find that WASP album in the dayton area? Good luck though.
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2017, 08:12:25 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 02, 2017, 08:10:43 PM
Right around the time some kid committed suicide after listening to a reversed Judas Priest tape (stuff we miss with the digital age -_- ).
Did it tell him to join the navy?
I'm afraid I do not understand the reference. I didn't have access to cable tv at the time, so I wouldn't know much of US navy recruitement ads :)
But for the Judas Priest thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_Priest#Subliminal_message_trial (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_Priest#Subliminal_message_trial)
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/judas-priest-suicide/ (http://ultimateclassicrock.com/judas-priest-suicide/)
Thank God we're beyond that now. :wacko:
There was a spoof of the secret backwards messages in pop songs thing in the Simpsons where the Navy was using it to brainwash people into enlisting. Eva Neht Nioj!
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2017, 08:12:32 PM
Man, we could listen to whatever we wanted. WASP's Fuck Like A Beast? Go ahead. Mom and Dad might roll their eyes at what they considered shitty music but didn't stop us kids.
Trying to find that WASP album in the dayton area? Good luck though.
I got more room to operate once I was around 14 or so; by 15, I had absorbed the entire AC/DC catalog; on my own, though.
My parents weren't biblethumpers or anything, they were more of a practical-bordering-on-Benedictine types; they just weren't going to buy it for me, and they didn't want to hear it (got me great headphones for me one Xmas).
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2017, 05:12:42 PMYeah, as far as my Dad was concerned, the Beach Boys were the alpha and omega, and everything else was just "bullshit" by "assholes." "What is this bullshit?" "Who are these assholes?"
Think Red from
That 70's Show. VAN HALEN? MORE LIKE VAN DUMBASS