TO ARRRMS!
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Hunters fight so-called 'feral hog apocalypse' in Texas
The state's agriculture commissioner said Tuesday that he has a solution: a human blood-thinner that proves especially deadly in swine.
Sid Miller, the commissioner, said there is only a "minimal" threat to other animals. Hunters will be able to see that the substance was consumed because the fat will be bright blue, MyStatesman.com reported.
"They're so prolific, you can't hardly keep them in check," Miller told the paper. "This is going to be the hog apocalypse, if you like: If you want them gone, this will get them gone."
The paper reported that the pesticide used is called "Kaput Feral Hog Lure," which will be bait laced with warfarin—the human blood thinner.
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State officials have downplayed the threat to other wildlife. But some hunters disagree, and say poison is not a viable option. Hunters in the state have collected more than 12,000 signatures in opposition of the poison.
The report said that Louisiana is considering the poison, but one state wildlife official warned that the crumbs that a hog leaves behind could affect black bears and other animals.
These feral hogs cost the state's agriculture industry about $50 million a year in damage. The Austin Statesman reported that these hogs were introduced to North America by Spanish settlers who released domestic pigs into the woods to breed.
The state already allows aerial hunting which reportedly results in about 27,000 killed hogs annually.
"We don't think poison is the way to go," Eydin Hansen, the vice president of the Texas Hog Hunters Association, told CBSNews.com. He went on to say, "If a hog is poisoned, do I want to feed it to my family? I can tell you, I don't."He also mentioned the risks of another animal—like a coyote—eating a dead carcass. "We're gonna after possible the whole ecosystem."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/21/hunters-fight-so-called-feral-hog-apocalypse-in-texas.html
Perhaps Texass should employ
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'Kung Fu Granny' keeps town safe at 94
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Yes, but all means, leave poison out. Because only the pigs will eat it.
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Sheer genius.
Texans ain't to bright.
I was in Arizona a while back, and I saw a pack of javelina run through the neighborhood knocking over trash cans and threatening people. They're like wolves.
Over here in my neck of the woods, there's been warnings about the threat posed by wild populations of a mix of Vietnamese pigs (that were originally kept as pets and then released/escaped to the wild) with local boars. Apparently they're quite agressive.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 22, 2017, 01:21:07 AM
I was in Arizona a while back, and I saw a pack of javelina run through the neighborhood knocking over trash cans and threatening people. They're like wolves.
Did not know that this was another (and much better) word for peccaries. *Learn something new*
The state of Texas should give free helicopter rides for people to hunt these things down the right way. From what I've seen on the Outdoor Channel, it looks fun as hell.
Javelinas are a pretty big menace. They regularly rip up yards in the suburbs, enabling HOAs to terrorize the residents. If only the Ag commission came up with HOA poison.
I live on one of the few streets in our suburb without an HOA. Sweet, sweet anarchy.
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 11:10:07 AM
Javelinas are a pretty big menace. They regularly rip up yards in the suburbs, enabling HOAs to terrorize the residents. If only the Ag commission came up with HOA poison.
You have some weird ass creatures* in Texas, looks like a pig, but isn't quite. :hmm:
* our ancesters killed off all one larger than a fox a long time ago, iirc last wolf in England, something like early 1500s, Scotland probably mid-late 1700s. :(
Quote from: mongers on February 22, 2017, 11:18:40 AM
* our ancesters killed off all one larger than a fox a long time ago, iirc last wolf in England, something like early 1500s, Scotland probably mid-late 1700s. :(
Which is impressive in a country that forbade anybody but the King and a few nobles to hunt. Damn poachers.
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: mongers on February 22, 2017, 11:18:40 AM
* our ancesters killed off all one larger than a fox a long time ago, iirc last wolf in England, something like early 1500s, Scotland probably mid-late 1700s. :(
Which is impressive in a country that forbade anybody but the King and a few nobles to hunt. Damn poachers.
I had a google to check my straw in the wind guesses, turns out there's a whole wiki article about the topic, with details about hunting, laws, bounties etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolves_in_Great_Britain#Past_presence_and_extinction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolves_in_Great_Britain#Past_presence_and_extinction)
These things fuck up everything they come into contact with, not just Valmy's nice neighborhood or whatever (these are the feral hogs, not javelinas). As far as I know they're one of the very few things the state allows you to kill however you want, whenever you want, and there are still too many of them all over the place.
Poison isn't necessarily a good idea, but people shooting and trapping them year round isn't getting rid of them, so what do you do? A helo ride with miniguns would be fun the first time, but I'm pretty sure mowing down animals like that would get really old really fast for the non psychos.
E: Javelina:
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Aww.
Feral hogs:
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Not so aww
E2: Oh and some numbers that aren't just aerial hunting:
QuoteRecreational hunters take an estimated 600,000 feral hogs a year, finding the wild swine a challenging hunting quarry and wonderful on the table. Commercial trappers using live-catch pens annually take and sell to wild game processors another 70,000 or so of the pigs. Another 50,000 or more are killed by Texas Wildlife Services and private firms hired by landowners to knock back pig populations damaging crops or property.
counter with this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelix
Those feral hogs can get fucking humongous as well, right?
Wasn't there a show on one of the wildlife channels about some guy hunting one in Alabama or Mississippir or Georgia or some similar hellhole like that where it was like 600 pounds or something crazy?
A&E had one with some lunatic Texas family.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 22, 2017, 11:31:09 AM
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Aww.
No kidding. :wub:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 22, 2017, 11:31:09 AM
not just Valmy's nice neighborhood or whatever (these are the feral hogs, not javelinas).
Fortunately my neighborhood is not suburban enough to experience the javelina menace. But they are pretty notorious.
I was not aware of the giant deer-eating hog menace. Seems serious.
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 01:53:52 PM
Fortunately my neighborhood is not suburban enough to experience the javelina menace. But they are pretty notorious.
I was not aware of the giant deer-eating hog menace. Seems serious.
You know the Arkansas mascot, the Razorback? Pig sooey and all that stupid shit? That's a feral hog. They're all over the place. E: The city here has to hire contractors to trap them in all the parks, so it isn't just limited to "country" type areas.
Javelinas are like little tard versions of those (apparently they aren't even pigs/hogs though) that mess up yards and stuff but don't ruin the whole ecosystem.
QuoteYou know the Arkansas mascot, the Razorback?
They are big fat menaces to the proper functioning of the earth and society and are everywhere. The other is their mascot.
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:05:05 PM
QuoteYou know the Arkansas mascot, the Razorback?
They are big fat menaces to the proper functioning of the earth and society and are everywhere. The other is their mascot.
:D
Quote from: derspiess on February 22, 2017, 10:48:17 AM
The state of Texas should give free helicopter rides for people to hunt these things down the right way.
aren't there laws prohibiting these? What happens to "heaven forbid we enforce laws" ? :)
What? Free helicopter rides?
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on February 22, 2017, 01:29:59 PM
counter with this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelix
I was just thinking about him :)
Quote from: viper37 on February 22, 2017, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 22, 2017, 10:48:17 AM
The state of Texas should give free helicopter rides for people to hunt these things down the right way.
aren't there laws prohibiting these? What happens to "heaven forbid we enforce laws" ? :)
You can zap feral hogs from the air with machine guns here if you are so inclined (and if you have a permit for the crazy gun you're using and are in a place where shooting at stuff from a helo won't get the police+every other agency or government organization to show up). I don't think you can do that with any other animals though.
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
What? Free helicopter rides?
Hunting from an helicopter. Chasing after an animal with a engined vehicle.
Someone has seen Crocodile Dundee.
Quote from: viper37 on February 22, 2017, 05:25:39 PM
Hunting from an helicopter. Chasing after an animal with a engined vehicle.
http://www.helibacon.com/texas-helicopter-hog-hunting/
$3,700. Get some.
Tanks and artillery and fixed wing air strikes
might not be allowed, but you can kill them pretty much however you like (with some location restrictions, obviously) outside of that.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 22, 2017, 05:32:44 PM
Someone has seen Crocodile Dundee.
no, it's just that it's forbidden in Quebec to chase after a deer or moose with a truck or snowbile or ATV, I thought it was the same in Texas, but looking into it, it seems helicopter hunting is legal in some places here.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 22, 2017, 05:33:43 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 22, 2017, 05:25:39 PM
Hunting from an helicopter. Chasing after an animal with a engined vehicle.
http://www.helibacon.com/texas-helicopter-hog-hunting/
$3,700. Get some.
Tanks and artillery and fixed wing air strikes might not be allowed, but you can kill them pretty much however you like (with some location restrictions, obviously) outside of that.
it's Texas, I should have expected this :P
Quote from: viper37 on February 22, 2017, 05:36:44 PM
it's Texas, I should have expected this :P
:) Hunting isn't really my thing, but if that wasn't so pricey I'd probably have to go check it out once. At that point is it really even hunting anymore anyway?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 22, 2017, 05:44:03 PM
:) Hunting isn't really my thing, but if that wasn't so pricey I'd probably have to go check it out once. At that point is it really even hunting anymore anyway?
It's probably closer to hunting than those safari parks where you blow away gazelles that are just standing there.
Quote from: viper37 on February 22, 2017, 05:36:02 PM
no, it's just that it's forbidden in Quebec to chase after a deer or moose with a truck or snowbile or ATV, I thought it was the same in Texas, but looking into it, it seems helicopter hunting is legal in some places here.
Quebec doesn't have a huge wild pig problem like Texas has. I doubt you can hunt deer from a helicopter in Texas.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 22, 2017, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 22, 2017, 05:36:44 PM
it's Texas, I should have expected this :P
:) Hunting isn't really my thing, but if that wasn't so pricey I'd probably have to go check it out once. At that point is it really even hunting anymore anyway?
It's not really hunting-- it's eradication.
Alberta has a wild boar problem. Fuckers snuck in from Saskatchewan. :mad:
Quote from: derspiess on February 22, 2017, 05:49:04 PM
It's not really hunting-- it's eradication.
Meh, I'd call the aerial hunting stuff a novelty more than anything. It's not even close to what random dudes with rifles walking around in the woods or wherever do to the hog numbers.
E: Not that anyone will be complaining about the ~30,000 fewer hogs breeding due to that, of course.
Quote from: derspiess on February 22, 2017, 05:48:13 PM
Quebec doesn't have a huge wild pig problem like Texas has. I doubt you can hunt deer from a helicopter in Texas.
I don't think you can. I've never heard of it at least.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 22, 2017, 05:53:49 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 22, 2017, 05:49:04 PM
It's not really hunting-- it's eradication.
Meh, I'd call the aerial hunting stuff a novelty more than anything. It's not even close to what random dudes with rifles walking around in the woods or wherever do to the hog numbers.
E: Not that anyone will be complaining about the ~30,000 fewer hogs breeding due to that, of course.
You're probably right, but you can apparently take down a huge number of pigs on one helicopter trip if you hit the right spot.
Quote from: derspiess on February 22, 2017, 06:03:57 PM
You're probably right, but you can apparently take down a huge number of pigs on one helicopter trip if you hit the right spot.
Yeah one of those places was talking about averaging 15-20 of them per flight. That's a lot of future bacon running around. Gotta pony up for the full auto to take advantage.
Quote from: derspiess on February 22, 2017, 05:48:13 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 22, 2017, 05:36:02 PM
no, it's just that it's forbidden in Quebec to chase after a deer or moose with a truck or snowbile or ATV, I thought it was the same in Texas, but looking into it, it seems helicopter hunting is legal in some places here.
Quebec doesn't have a huge wild pig problem like Texas has. I doubt you can hunt deer from a helicopter in Texas.
actually, we do, in certain areas. And helicopter hunting is now allowed for wild boars and for moose on some park too, but I haven't looked at the specifics, so I don't know much. And I don't hunt myself, so I'm not that interested in the subject.
Quote from: Berkut on February 22, 2017, 01:32:29 PM
Those feral hogs can get fucking humongous as well, right?
Wasn't there a show on one of the wildlife channels about some guy hunting one in Alabama or Mississippir or Georgia or some similar hellhole like that where it was like 600 pounds or something crazy?
790 Pounds
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-men-capture-800-lb-boarzilla-article-1.2097776
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 22, 2017, 05:33:43 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 22, 2017, 05:25:39 PM
Hunting from an helicopter. Chasing after an animal with a engined vehicle.
http://www.helibacon.com/texas-helicopter-hog-hunting/
$3,700. Get some.
Tanks and artillery and fixed wing air strikes might not be allowed, but you can kill them pretty much however you like (with some location restrictions, obviously) outside of that.
That includes speakers, right? Gotta scare the hell out of Bacey.
*That's Bacey's point, Sir!*
*Bacey don't surf!!!111*
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
What? Free helicopter rides?
I think that's a term now used in right-wing circles for the murder of undesirables, inspired by events in South America. I'm sure Derspeiss can tell you more.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 22, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
What? Free helicopter rides?
I think that's a term now used in right-wing circles for the murder of undesirables, inspired by events in South America. I'm sure Derspeiss can tell you more.
Is it really? Sounds legit, but I hadn't heard of that one yet.
Quote from: derspiess on February 23, 2017, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 22, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
What? Free helicopter rides?
I think that's a term now used in right-wing circles for the murder of undesirables, inspired by events in South America. I'm sure Derspeiss can tell you more.
Is it really? Sounds legit, but I hadn't heard of that one yet.
I think I read about it for Chile - they'd take opponents of the regime in a helicopter over the ocean and dump them out.
Never heard it used in a north american context though. Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.
They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
I've heard about it. I've also heard it being used as an interrogation tactic during the Vietnam War. Just never heard "free helicopter rides" in that context.
Quote from: HVC on February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.
They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
given that healthcare in Canada is a provincial responsability, funded by the Federal government, a government who just announced he would be cutting in half health-transfers, I'd say the left is just as guilty as the right for poor healthcare.
Quote from: viper37 on February 23, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.
They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
given that healthcare in Canada is a provincial responsability, funded by the Federal government, a government who just announced he would be cutting in half health-transfers, I'd say the left is just as guilty as the right for poor healthcare.
I'm no Trudeau fan, but come on - he isn't cutting health transfers in half - he's cutting the rate of
increase in health transfers in half (from 6% increases to 3%).
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 23, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.
They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
given that healthcare in Canada is a provincial responsability, funded by the Federal government, a government who just announced he would be cutting in half health-transfers, I'd say the left is just as guilty as the right for poor healthcare.
I'm no Trudeau fan, but come on - he isn't cutting health transfers in half - he's cutting the rate of increase in health transfers in half (from 6% increases to 3%).
allright, I skipped ahead to the 2020 budget. You'll see, he'll borrow from the Chrétien's playbook to rebalance the budget :)
you don't want them to raise taxes, and you don't want them to cut spending, you're never happy :P
Quote from: viper37 on February 23, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 23, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.
They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
given that healthcare in Canada is a provincial responsability, funded by the Federal government, a government who just announced he would be cutting in half health-transfers, I'd say the left is just as guilty as the right for poor healthcare.
I'm no Trudeau fan, but come on - he isn't cutting health transfers in half - he's cutting the rate of increase in health transfers in half (from 6% increases to 3%).
allright, I skipped ahead to the 2020 budget. You'll see, he'll borrow from the Chrétien's playbook to rebalance the budget :)
He's already stealing from Chretien's playbook - cutting the rate of future increases. Chretien never made actual cuts in transfer payments.
Gotta love baseline budgeting, where "cuts" can still be actual increases in spending.
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 23, 2017, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 22, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
What? Free helicopter rides?
I think that's a term now used in right-wing circles for the murder of undesirables, inspired by events in South America. I'm sure Derspeiss can tell you more.
Is it really? Sounds legit, but I hadn't heard of that one yet.
I think I read about it for Chile - they'd take opponents of the regime in a helicopter over the ocean and dump them out.
Never heard it used in a north american context though. Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.
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Beeb's statement would've been more accurate if it'd said "most rightwingers are opposed to outright murdering people."
"Right" and "left" are barely useful terms in politics and even less so when used across contexts.
Quote from: Jacob on February 23, 2017, 05:34:59 PM
Beeb's statement would've been more accurate if it'd said "most rightwingers are opposed to outright murdering people."
Well at least "some".
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2017, 05:51:05 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 23, 2017, 05:34:59 PM
Beeb's statement would've been more accurate if it'd said "most rightwingers are opposed to outright murdering people."
Well at least "some".
:rolleyes:
Our own President is enthusiastic about torturing people and killing the families of terrorists. What am I to make of this?
A hat?
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2017, 05:57:02 PM
Our own President is enthusiastic about torturing people and killing the families of terrorists. What am I to make of this?
I get an erection, but people may have other reactions.
You are the only man in America to get an erection seeing Trump.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2017, 08:13:06 PM
You are the only man in America to get an erection seeing Trump.
U jelly
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
He's already stealing from Chretien's playbook - cutting the rate of future increases. Chretien never made actual cuts in transfer payments.
There were massive cuts right after the '95 referendum, transfers went from 18billion$ to 14 billioN$ in one year, then to 12.5 the next.
https://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/his-eng.asp
But all they have to do is tax less and let the provinces foot the bill with their own taxes. Problem solved.
Quote from: derspiess on February 23, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
Gotta love baseline budgeting, where "cuts" can still be actual increases in spending.
sure, I agree it's misleading and the proper term would be "a decrease in the planned spending increase over the next decade". But that's not as sexy as "cuts."
However, when you figure in that the feds tax more (they introduce the GST a few years before these first cuts, now, they are raising income & capital gains taxes, defunding the army, supposedly cancelling an airplane contract to save money [while we know it will cost more, again]) and transfer less the provinces, it is a problem. Than you figure that these transfers are money taxed from the provinces by the Federal government to finance services directly tied to the population wich increases year after year and a part of it goes to healthcare wich costs naturally increases due to an aging population, you have a recipe for disaster. Combine this with a decrease in unemployment benefits while they at first increased the premiums we pay, it means the provinces had to face an increase in costs due to the Feds disengaging from their responsibility while letting us foot the bill for it. In other words, it was, as it is now, simple thievery.
As I said, it would be much simpler system if the provinces could perceive all of their taxes and the Feds would stop overtaxing us. But I bet you the same people complaining Quebec receives too much money will be opposed to this solution until their last breath has been drawn.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2017, 05:57:02 PM
Our own President is enthusiastic about torturing people and killing the families of terrorists. What am I to make of this?
BB and I do not have a President.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2017, 08:13:06 PM
You are the only man in America to get an erection seeing Trump.
No, I think Milo has one too.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
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You'd think guys with throat tattoos would be nicer than that :(
The guy must have balls. At a fairly young age he decided that didn't want gainful employment for the rest of his life. That's a pretty gutsy decision.