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derspiess

#45
February 23, 2017, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 22, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
What? Free helicopter rides?

I think that's a term now used in right-wing circles for the murder of undesirables, inspired by events in South America.  I'm sure Derspeiss can tell you more.

Is it really?  Sounds legit, but I hadn't heard of that one yet.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Barrister

#46
February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 23, 2017, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 22, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
What? Free helicopter rides?

I think that's a term now used in right-wing circles for the murder of undesirables, inspired by events in South America.  I'm sure Derspeiss can tell you more.

Is it really?  Sounds legit, but I hadn't heard of that one yet.

I think I read about it for Chile - they'd take opponents of the regime in a helicopter over the ocean and dump them out.

Never heard it used in a north american context though.  Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

HVC

#47
February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.

They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

derspiess

#48
February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
I've heard about it. I've also heard it being used as an interrogation tactic during the Vietnam War. Just never heard "free helicopter rides" in that context.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

viper37

#49
February 23, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.

They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
given that healthcare in Canada is a provincial responsability, funded by the Federal government, a government who just announced he would be cutting in half health-transfers, I'd say the left is just as guilty as the right for poor healthcare.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Barrister

#50
February 23, 2017, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 23, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.

They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
given that healthcare in Canada is a provincial responsability, funded by the Federal government, a government who just announced he would be cutting in half health-transfers, I'd say the left is just as guilty as the right for poor healthcare.

I'm no Trudeau fan, but come on - he isn't cutting health transfers in half - he's cutting the rate of increase in health transfers in half (from 6% increases to 3%).
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

viper37

#51
February 23, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 23, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.

They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
given that healthcare in Canada is a provincial responsability, funded by the Federal government, a government who just announced he would be cutting in half health-transfers, I'd say the left is just as guilty as the right for poor healthcare.

I'm no Trudeau fan, but come on - he isn't cutting health transfers in half - he's cutting the rate of increase in health transfers in half (from 6% increases to 3%).
allright, I skipped ahead to the 2020 budget.  You'll see, he'll borrow from the Chrétien's playbook to rebalance the budget :)
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

HVC

#52
February 23, 2017, 03:46:32 PM
you don't want them to raise taxes, and you don't want them to cut spending, you're never happy :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Barrister

#53
February 23, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 23, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 23, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 23, 2017, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.

They let poor healthcare do it for them :P
given that healthcare in Canada is a provincial responsability, funded by the Federal government, a government who just announced he would be cutting in half health-transfers, I'd say the left is just as guilty as the right for poor healthcare.

I'm no Trudeau fan, but come on - he isn't cutting health transfers in half - he's cutting the rate of increase in health transfers in half (from 6% increases to 3%).
allright, I skipped ahead to the 2020 budget.  You'll see, he'll borrow from the Chrétien's playbook to rebalance the budget :)

He's already stealing from Chretien's playbook - cutting the rate of future increases.  Chretien never made actual cuts in transfer payments.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

derspiess

#54
February 23, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
Gotta love baseline budgeting, where "cuts" can still be actual increases in spending.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#55
February 23, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 23, 2017, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 22, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 22, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
What? Free helicopter rides?

I think that's a term now used in right-wing circles for the murder of undesirables, inspired by events in South America.  I'm sure Derspeiss can tell you more.

Is it really?  Sounds legit, but I hadn't heard of that one yet.

I think I read about it for Chile - they'd take opponents of the regime in a helicopter over the ocean and dump them out.

Never heard it used in a north american context though.  Believe it or not right-wingers are actually opposed to straight-up murdering people.

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob

#56
February 23, 2017, 05:34:59 PM
Beeb's statement would've been more accurate if it'd said "most rightwingers are opposed to outright murdering people."

Maximus

#57
February 23, 2017, 05:48:50 PM
"Right" and "left" are barely useful terms in politics and even less so when used across contexts.

Razgovory

#58
February 23, 2017, 05:51:05 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 23, 2017, 05:34:59 PM
Beeb's statement would've been more accurate if it'd said "most rightwingers are opposed to outright murdering people."

Well at least "some".
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Barrister

#59
February 23, 2017, 05:55:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2017, 05:51:05 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 23, 2017, 05:34:59 PM
Beeb's statement would've been more accurate if it'd said "most rightwingers are opposed to outright murdering people."

Well at least "some".

:rolleyes:
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.
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