http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38851097
QuoteIceberg lettuces and broccoli rationed as vegetable crisis hits supermarkets
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Some supermarkets are rationing the amount of iceberg lettuce and broccoli customers can buy - blaming poor growing conditions in southern Europe for a shortage in UK stores.
Tesco is limiting shoppers to three iceberg lettuces, as bad weather in Spain caused "availability issues".
Morrisons has a limit of two icebergs to stop "bulk buying", and is limiting broccoli to three heads per visit.
Prices have also risen, with Lidl's iceberg lettuce up to £1.19 from 42p.
But both Aldi and Lidl have told the BBC their stock levels have not been affected.
Asda said courgette stocks were still low after a UK shortage last month.
Customers have posted photographs on social media sites of empty lettuce shelves in Tesco stores, alongside signs asking them to limit lettuce purchases.
One notice read: "Due to continued weather problems in Spain there is a shortage of iceberg lettuce.
"To protect the availability to all our customers, we are limiting bulk purchases to three per person. We apologise for any inconvenience caused."
A spokesman for the Prime Minister, Theresa May, said the government knew there was a "situation", and that the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) was "monitoring" it.
Difficult harvest
Morrisons said its availability of broccoli and iceberg lettuce was good and prices had not been affected - but because other businesses were experiencing shortages, there had been some bulk buying in its stores.
"We have therefore had a cap on sales of broccoli and iceberg lettuce to ensure we maintain good supplies for our regular customers.
"As you can imagine, most customers don't buy more than three broccoli at a time."
The Co-op told the BBC it was not limiting purchases at the moment, but it was asking customers to "shop responsibly".
Sainsbury's said severe weather had affected the produce it sold, but it was working with suppliers to "maintain supply for our customers."
Delivery company Ocado said it was not limiting the quantity of vegetables people could buy, but was putting that "under review". It also said customers may have to be "flexible" about brands or varieties.
And Asda apologised to customers that some of its stocks on vegetables were low because of the weather, naming courgettes and aubergines in particular.
Mitchell Redmond, who runs a fruit and vegetable market stall in Essex, said wholesale prices of £1.50 for an iceberg lettuce were being charged - which was "extremely expensive for this time of year" and "at least double what it should be".
Speaking to the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme, he said he could see why the limits were being put in place by the shops, as restaurants and cafes frustrated with the wholesale price "are going to the supermarkets to find the cheapest price wherever they can".
Neil Baradwah, who runs the Cambridge Fruit Company, told BBC Radio 5 Live the problem had hit his wholesale business.
"The restaurants, the cafes, the sandwich shops, they all want iceberg lettuce to use and the price has just gone up," he said.
"When we have to pay more, we can't mark it up too much, so it affects our profits.
"It is the first time in 11 years I have seen any salad produce come from America.
"Normally at this time of year it comes from Spain or Holland, but the US is quite something."
EU competition
BBC weather forecaster Nick Miller said the weather was extreme for the time of year where the vegetables were grown.
"We had snow covering the Greek Islands, we had snow in Italy and we saw that pushing into Spain," he said.
"At the moment it is really quite stormy through parts of Iberia, into France and the Bay of Biscay on the southern flank of low pressure, which is giving a glancing blow to the UK.
"So, if it is not cold and snow, it is wind and rain."
Dieter Lloyd, from the British Leafy Salads Association, said as well as damaging crops, the weather was also stopping farmers going out and planting, and the UK had strong competition to get what was left.
"Southern Spain provides around 80% of the fresh produce for the EU out of season, so it is not just the UK," he told BBC Radio 5Live.
"There are still stocks coming in, albeit at a reduced rate - I have seen it is as low as 30-50% of what we normally have - but the challenge is we are not the only people buying it.
"With Germany, France and the rest of the EU too, the people who are prepared to pay are going to get it."
And Mr Lloyd said there was not a clear end in sight to the shortage.
"This won't solve itself this month or next," he added. "For this season, their crop has been devastated."
The Spanish association of fruit and vegetable producers, FEPEX, said it expected the shortage of leafy vegetables grown outdoors, including lettuce and spinach, to continue until early April.
Iceberg lettuces currently being stocked in UK supermarkets have probably been grown in California, rather than Europe.
Shopping habits
Teresa Wickham, supermarket expert and former director at Safeway, told BBC Breakfast if you insisted on certain vegetables, you would have to pay the price.
"The trouble is our shopping habits have changed and we are so used to salads and everything we want 52 weeks a year," she said.
The shortage would mean prices going up, she said, so people may have to look at alternatives, "which there are plenty of".
"If you are looking for broccoli, you could just go from frozen broccoli. But if you are desperate for [fresh], then you are going to have to pay for it."
"Dieter Lloyd, from the British Leafy Salads Association" - Dieter is not a first name I expected to see outside of Germany. :hmm:
I'm sure someone in Central America is looking to sell some.
Plenty of lettuce in Spanish supermarkets, just made me an amazing mixed greens with raisins and pinenuts salad.
Quote from: celedhring on February 03, 2017, 09:15:09 AM
Plenty of lettuce in Spanish supermarkets, just made me an amazing mixed greens with raisins and pinenuts salad.
Probably sounds more delicious in Spanish.
Quote from: derspiess on February 03, 2017, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: celedhring on February 03, 2017, 09:15:09 AM
Plenty of lettuce in Spanish supermarkets, just made me an amazing mixed greens with raisins and pinenuts salad.
Probably sounds more delicious in Spanish.
:D
IIRC they mentioned something about less exports from Spain which are mostly going to Germany.
And they don't even have tariffs on them yet! Global Britain!
Quote from: Tamas on February 03, 2017, 09:35:46 AM
IIRC they mentioned something about less exports from Spain which are mostly going to Germany.
And they don't even have tariffs on them yet! Global Britain!
If it weren't for the draconian EU food laws, Britain could get on the cheap elsewhere!
He who controls the lettuce controls the salads.
Quote from: derspiess on February 03, 2017, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: celedhring on February 03, 2017, 09:15:09 AM
Plenty of lettuce in Spanish supermarkets, just made me an amazing mixed greens with raisins and pinenuts salad.
Probably sounds more delicious in Spanish.
Ensalada mixta con pasas y piñones. But mine was in Catalan.
Also, I wasn't aware we owned the EU strategic lettuce reserve. We should exploit this geostrategic advantage.
Lettuce pray. :pope: ... :bowler:
Mew.
Quote from: celedhring on February 03, 2017, 09:38:30 AM
Ensalada mixta con pasas y piñones. But mine was in Catalan.
That adds $1 or $2 to the menu price :thumbsup:
Brexit has hit an iceberg. :(
Spain is a superpower in gastrostrategic terms :D
There is no evidence of this shortage in the shops I go to. But then I would never buy an iceberg lettuce anyway.
Quote from: Syt on February 03, 2017, 08:28:11 AM
Dieter is not a first name I expected to see outside of Germany. :hmm:
Is this the part of the show when we dance?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 03, 2017, 08:28:11 AM
Dieter is not a first name I expected to see outside of Germany. :hmm:
Is this the part of the show when we dance?
I'm as happy as a LEETLE GUHL.
People buy more than one head of lettuce at a time? :huh:
Quote from: Syt on February 03, 2017, 08:28:11 AM
Dieter is not a first name I expected to see outside of Germany. :hmm:
I am sure there many, if not too many, Dieters in Ibiza. ;)
I take it by now, for you, Austria is just Outer Bavaria. :D
Dieter is not a very common name in Austria.
Nor is lettuce a common name on languish, which is why I was relieved when I discovered that this thread was not about a foreign crisis with our favorite Confederate poster.
Quote from: Syt on February 03, 2017, 09:38:13 AM
He who controls the lettuce controls the salads.
Apparently there's medieval guild for that.
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British Leafy Salads Association
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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 03, 2017, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: Syt on February 03, 2017, 09:38:13 AM
He who controls the lettuce controls the salads.
Apparently there's medieval guild for that.
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British Leafy Salads Association
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That implies there is a British Salad Association and the Leafy lot are a splitter faction. :python: :bowler:
Quote from: mongers on February 03, 2017, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 03, 2017, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: Syt on February 03, 2017, 09:38:13 AM
He who controls the lettuce controls the salads.
Apparently there's medieval guild for that.
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British Leafy Salads Association
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/Guild_Navigator-Dune_(1984).jpg)
That implies there is a British Salad Association and the Leafy lot are a splitter faction. :python: :bowler:
"Where's the British Association for Leafy Salad?"
"That's him, over there."
Why is the paper the notice is printed on half-yellow / half-white?
Quote from: PRC on February 03, 2017, 04:40:52 PM
Why is the paper the notice is printed on half-yellow / half-white?
It's likely Morrisons as those are its brand colours.
It's funny to look at The Sun's reporting on this. So much OUTRAGE. And the comments... :lol:
Blame the EU!
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2017, 09:53:32 AM
It's funny to look at The Sun's reporting on this. So much OUTRAGE. And the comments... :lol:
Blame the EU!
That's what I said! :D :D
Also, I love this bit from the Sun about vegetables to you can replace with other ones. I feel like they were just name vegetables they had heard of.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2781753/aldo-zillis-guide-to-beating-the-big-mediterranean-veg-shortage-by-starting-with-seasonal-homegrown-produce/
Broccoli, chicory and celery salad. Stuff nightmares is made of :yuk:
Quote from: celedhring on February 06, 2017, 10:12:15 AM
Broccoli, chicory and celery salad. Stuff nightmares is made of :yuk:
That's the 'purple sprouting broccoli' not even normal broccoli.
Anything is better than kale.
Have any of you experienced problems getting any produce? I've been buying all these things as usual, the broccoli we had on Sunday was actually on special offer :hmm:
I'm just wondering if the "shortage" is a complete fabrication or is actually taking place in other parts of the country.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 06, 2017, 04:07:01 PM
Have any of you experienced problems getting any produce? I've been buying all these things as usual, the broccoli we had on Sunday was actually on special offer :hmm:
I'm just wondering if the "shortage" is a complete fabrication or is actually taking place in other parts of the country.
I was very briefly in a supermarket this evening, picking up just onions in the veg area; in my peripheral view did seem a few more emptish sections than normal, but wouldn't swear to it.
To determine the full extend of the disaster or otherwise, I'll need to pop into the Waitrose 200 yards further on. :bowler:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 06, 2017, 04:07:01 PM
Have any of you experienced problems getting any produce? I've been buying all these things as usual, the broccoli we had on Sunday was actually on special offer :hmm:
I'm just wondering if the "shortage" is a complete fabrication or is actually taking place in other parts of the country.
Sainsbury's was short on iceburg lettuce / salad mixes with iceburg lettuce but I've noticed my store is often short at random times. There was plenty of broccoli and cauliflower.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 06, 2017, 04:07:01 PM
Have any of you experienced problems getting any produce? I've been buying all these things as usual, the broccoli we had on Sunday was actually on special offer :hmm:
I'm just wondering if the "shortage" is a complete fabrication or is actually taking place in other parts of the country.
Certainly there's no shortage or higher prices over here, which is the supposed origin of the scarcity. It's true that the weather's been bad, though.
My bet is that The Sun just took some highly localized problem and just went full The Sun on it.
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2017, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 06, 2017, 04:07:01 PM
Have any of you experienced problems getting any produce? I've been buying all these things as usual, the broccoli we had on Sunday was actually on special offer :hmm:
I'm just wondering if the "shortage" is a complete fabrication or is actually taking place in other parts of the country.
Sainsbury's was short on iceburg lettuce / salad mixes with iceburg lettuce but I've noticed my store is often short at random times. There was plenty of broccoli and cauliflower.
Oh, so it's more likely to be a Southern/SE England thing.
My Garbon I didn't realise you shop at Sainsburys. :( :hug:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 03, 2017, 10:33:14 AM
But then I would never buy an iceberg lettuce anyway.
Iceburg is pretty critical for a wedge salad!
Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 04:13:15 PM
My Garbon I didn't realise you shop at Sainsburys. :( :hug:
Don't worry, I do a mix but Sainsbury's is my main one. Tesco Express sometimes as they actually have their wine refrigerated. Less often is the M&S and then least often, when I wanted to deal with snooty clerks, Waitrose.
Quote from: celedhring on February 06, 2017, 04:13:07 PM
Certainly there's no shortage or higher prices over here, which is the supposed origin of the scarcity. It's true that the weather's been bad, though.
My bet is that The Sun just took some highly localized problem and just went full The Sun on it.
That seems dumb. If you want to create a scare folks and create a panic, don't do it with something they will see is false in the normal daily course of their lives.
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2017, 04:16:24 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 04:13:15 PM
My Garbon I didn't realise you shop at Sainsburys. :( :hug:
Don't worry, I do a mix but Sainsbury's is my main one. Tesco Express sometimes as they actually have their wine refrigerated. Less often is the M&S and then least often, when I wanted to deal with snooty clerks, Waitrose.
Weirdly I don't have that problem with Waitrose here, seems to be mainly chatty sixth formers and students, easy to get along with, but maybe they find someone shopping whilst wearing wellingtons (non-town and country set) engaging/amusing?
For the rest of the board- though obviously a decade old!
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2004/mar/12/foodanddrink.shopping
QuoteTesco, the implication goes, is for commoner people who are slightly more likely to drop their trousers in public than Sainsbury's shoppers. By extension, Waitrose is for those more likely to have second homes in Chiantishire than the first two; Asda for people who aspire to have a second home anywhere but probably never will; Lidl for people who have never heard of Chiantishire; Marks and Spencer for those who affect to have never heard of Lidl. That kind of thing.
...
Given that most Britons buy most of their food from supermarkets, it's a small step from Meades' point to the conclusion that our supermarkets are class-stratified. Verdict Research, for instance, has found that Waitrose has the highest proportion of shoppers from the professional social classes A and B (47%), followed by Sainsbury's (34%), Marks & Spencer (22%), Tesco (21%) and Safeway (17%). At the bottom of the market, 72% of Netto's shoppers are blue-collar Ds or Es, with Kwik Save (66%), Lidl (54%) and Somerfield (50%) close behind.
...
Waitrose
Rupert and Felicity, of the "symbols of success" group, which represents 9.6% of UK households, are most likely to shop here. According to Experian: "The air of discretion and understatement that is associated with traditional premium brands appeals more than the flamboyance and conspicuous consumption associated with the nouveau riche."
Sainsbury's
Our friends Rupert and Felicity are quite likely to shop here, too, but the most likely Sainsbury's shoppers are Ben and Chloe, the "urban intelligence" archetypes, who represent 7.2% of UK households. Young, well-educated, cosmopolitan in their tastes, liberal in their outlooks and unlikely to have children, many Bens and Chloes live in inner-city areas and have high levels of disposable income.
Tesco
The second most important shoppers to Tesco, after Rupert and Felicity, are Darren and Joanne, the "happy families" group, who represent 10.8% of UK households. Young couples raising young children, they work in large public or private organisations and live in areas of rapidly expanding employment, such as Northampton, Milton Keynes and Swindon.
Marks & Spencer
Rupert and Felicity, again, are most likely to patronise Marks & Spencer, lured there no doubt by the dearth of piped music, a soothing green and silver livery and a snooty aura. "Interestingly," says Gladding, "Marks' food shoppers are more upmarket than the clothes shoppers." Least likely to visit M&S are Wayne and Leanne (the "municipal dependency" archetypes), who live on large, low-rise estates far from the centre of the city, and represent 6.7% of UK households. The second most likely group to shop at M&S are Darren and Joanne, the happy family.
Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2017, 04:16:24 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 04:13:15 PM
My Garbon I didn't realise you shop at Sainsburys. :( :hug:
Don't worry, I do a mix but Sainsbury's is my main one. Tesco Express sometimes as they actually have their wine refrigerated. Less often is the M&S and then least often, when I wanted to deal with snooty clerks, Waitrose.
Weirdly I don't have that problem with Waitrose here, seems to be mainly chatty sixth formers and students, easy to get along with, but maybe they find someone shopping whilst wearing wellingtons (non-town and country set) engaging/amusing?
Yeah, in the city, they have a bit of the smug attitude that you might also get at nicer clothing shops. Which is odd given what they'll be making vs. customers they are judging.
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2017, 04:20:44 PM
For the rest of the board- though obviously a decade old!
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2004/mar/12/foodanddrink.shopping
Agreed, that's quite useful for most forumites, but it's seems a bit out of date.
Here there seems a real divided between Waitrose and Sainsbury, the wealthy incomers go for waitrose and the older town folk shop at sainsbury. The clueless go to an Iceland. :)
I mainly got to Waitrose because for a lot of things the quality is better than Sainsburys, plus it's often cheaper. :D
I'd also say I know a lot of really well-off* people also shop at Aldi and sometimes Lidl.
Tescos just seem, well yuck, quality of goods is a real issue for me, unless it's something bombproof like a bag of breakfast oats.
* people earning 3 / 4 times the national average wage.
Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 04:28:43 PM
The clueless go to an Iceland here.
Major yuck. Even my cheapskate sister was horrified at the notion - though she also turned around and threatened to make me a dinner with products only purchased from there.
Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 04:28:43 PMI mainly seem to go to Waitrose because for a lot of things the quality is better than Sainsburys, plus there often cheaper. :D
Waitrose & M&S are where I'll stop when I want better quality meat and veg. Most of the time though, I'll settle for Sainsbury's.
Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 04:28:43 PMI'd also say I know a lot of really well-off* people who shop and Aldi and sometimes Lidl.
Well those going to the latter are just cheapskates. Aldi sometimes has products others don't - like I know Aldi has Ruffles chips (well labelled crisps here :D) that I love but aren't available elsewhere.
Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 04:28:43 PMTescos just seem, well yuck, quality of goods is a real issue for me, unless it's something bombproof like a bag of breakfast oats.
I drop in for branded things or basic cheddar blocks/milk. Agreed Tesco branded stuff isn't so good.
When we stayed in the cottage in Scotland, we mostly drove into Inverness to get our basic groceries. We would do our shopping at the Tescos. There was also a much smaller Tescos in Tain which was only 10 minutes away we stopped at a couple of times.
I thought I was just buying groceries - I had no idea I was making an extended comment on my social standing. :weep:
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2017, 05:05:37 PM
I thought I was just buying groceries - I had no idea I was making an extended comment on my social standing. :weep:
You were in the UK, so...
Quote from: celedhring on February 06, 2017, 04:13:07 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 06, 2017, 04:07:01 PM
Have any of you experienced problems getting any produce? I've been buying all these things as usual, the broccoli we had on Sunday was actually on special offer :hmm:
I'm just wondering if the "shortage" is a complete fabrication or is actually taking place in other parts of the country.
Certainly there's no shortage or higher prices over here, which is the supposed origin of the scarcity. It's true that the weather's been bad, though.
My bet is that The Sun just took some highly localized problem and just went full The Sun on it.
I did read a relatively useful piece on the BBC which talked about the bad weather but also pointed out that this happens every now and then. I think the worst piece was in the Guardian where it was blamed on Brexit, the Spanish now hate us so much they won't sell us lettuces it seems :hmm:
For the Express it was the beginning of the apocalypse of course, but that happens once a week in their universe.
I'm interested because it seems to fall into this genre of fake, or at least ridiculously heavily spun, news. The evidence on the ground is that some prices have risen; some will pay the higher price, others will buy an alternative............ie business as usual.
One thing about supermarkets that we need to bear in mind is that each individual shop is now tailored to the area it serves. I was mystified a few years back, for example, when I saw Morrisons being extensively slagged off for being shit. The one at Preston docks being quite a good store. I then went on a tour of the North-East and shopped at several Morrisons' over there.......well, they were pretty poor. So, in Preston, for some mysterious reason, the local Lidl is better than the local Aldi. I theorise that it is due to the clientele. In both these stores roughly half the shoppers are foreigners; but in the Lidl they are workers of various types (well organised respectable working class in the main) whereas the Aldi is in the university district and has lots of students shop there.
Waitrose is very weak up here as we have a regional chain, Booth's, that fills that niche and has the additional advantage of being "Northern".
I shop at all these places, and M&S as well, but that is mainly to get me to do lots of walking. If it wasn't for the exercise I guess we would use Booth's for 90% of our purchases. They have stuff like the £14 a small bottle balsamic vinegar that are essential to our modern lifestyle :lol:
ALDI... Some OK cheap stuff. People stock up on their pizzas like crazy. Though I do not trust the meat from there. I had a bad encounter with it. The smell... Oh the smell...
Also I have to disapprove of their dark patterns. Purposefully confusing shelf lay out and horrid tills.
Though they do treat their workers well so yay.
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:ph34r:
kale and quinoa and fat free chicken breasts (purchased in bulk, not some scam pampered chicken nonsense) = great for dinner five nights a week
Quote from: The Larch on February 07, 2017, 05:27:24 PM
:ph34r:
Seems like a bad idea. Unless the Spanish have suddenly seen a massive increase in appetite that'd just all be good going to waste. :(
The Perfidious Albion must be starved of dietary fibers and folic acids. Thus we will get Gibraltar back.
Quote from: celedhring on February 07, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
The Perfidious Albion must be starved of dietary fibers and folic acids. Thus we will get Gibraltar back.
Or you'll get your tail whipped like what happened with the Argies and the Falklands. :(
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2017, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: celedhring on February 07, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
The Perfidious Albion must be starved of dietary fibers and folic acids. Thus we will get Gibraltar back.
Or you'll get your tail whipped like what happened with the Argies and the Falklands. :(
This will triumph where Nappy's continental system failed.
Quote from: celedhring on February 07, 2017, 05:58:25 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2017, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: celedhring on February 07, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
The Perfidious Albion must be starved of dietary fibers and folic acids. Thus we will get Gibraltar back.
Or you'll get your tail whipped like what happened with the Argies and the Falklands. :(
This will triumph where Nappy's continental system failed.
False bravado.
The only British lettuce I care about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwPdWXL70g
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 07, 2017, 06:28:59 PM
The only British lettuce I care about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwPdWXL70g
Can she play a flute?
Quote from: 11B4V on February 07, 2017, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 07, 2017, 06:28:59 PM
The only British lettuce I care about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwPdWXL70g
Can she play a flute?
I always though women who played that instrument were fabulously exotic, then I met a few, turns out they were just fluting it.
Quote from: mongers on February 07, 2017, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 07, 2017, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 07, 2017, 06:28:59 PM
The only British lettuce I care about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwPdWXL70g
Can she play a flute?
I always though women who played that instrument were fabulously exotic, then I met a few, turns out they were just fluting it.
Depends on the instrument.
Quote from: celedhring on February 07, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
The Perfidious Albion must be starved of dietary fibers and folic acids. Thus we will get Gibraltar back.
I figured payback for the Nonintervention Committee.
If the Spanish extend their restrictions to citrus the country will be brought to its knees :weep:
I was shopping yesterday and again could see little evidence of any shortages. Masses of fresh broccoli on display at £1.18 per kilo. All the other stuff seemed normal, onions have experienced a price collapse. The only evidence I could see of any shortage was that iceberg lettuces were £1.19...........................which seems a bit pricey to me, more than normal that is.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 08, 2017, 12:53:35 AM
If the Spanish extend their restrictions to citrus the country will be brought to its knees :weep:
Time for a new Peninsular Campaign to secure fruits and veg?
And also top rate footballers, given the challenges that exist post brexit/strong pound. They seem to have a lot of them about in Spain.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 08, 2017, 12:57:18 AM
I was shopping yesterday and again could see little evidence of any shortages. Masses of fresh broccoli on display at £1.18 per kilo. All the other stuff seemed normal, onions have experienced a price collapse. The only evidence I could see of any shortage was that iceberg lettuces were £1.19...........................which seems a bit pricey to me, more than normal that is.
I wonder if, post-Brexit, when the price-rises from new tariffs will start to show, will the British press be:
a) doing the same general panic
b) panic with blaming EU countries for deliberately trying to punish the UK for winning her freedom from European opression
c) note the fact but urge to take it with stiff upper lip
d) pretend it never happened
When will the emigration start with half of the Brits leaving after the begin of this new Great Famine but this time directed to the Brits :glare:
Quote from: Tamas on February 08, 2017, 05:51:57 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 08, 2017, 12:57:18 AM
I was shopping yesterday and again could see little evidence of any shortages. Masses of fresh broccoli on display at £1.18 per kilo. All the other stuff seemed normal, onions have experienced a price collapse. The only evidence I could see of any shortage was that iceberg lettuces were £1.19...........................which seems a bit pricey to me, more than normal that is.
I wonder if, post-Brexit, when the price-rises from new tariffs will start to show, will the British press be:
a) doing the same general panic
b) panic with blaming EU countries for deliberately trying to punish the UK for winning her freedom from European opression
c) note the fact but urge to take it with stiff upper lip
d) pretend it never happened
Well we don't have to impose tariffs on Spanish produce you know; and even if we do then it will raise tax revenues which can be rebated elsewhere.
My principal interest in this it is that it is essentially fake news. But fake news that can be checked by the simple expedient of walking into a shop. Is it possible that people who can buy any salad materials they want can also believe in a shortage because of what they read in their paper? Until last year I would have said no, now I'm not so sure :hmm: