Breaking on CNN. :o
RIP
Who?
:(
Quote from: Habbaku on July 04, 2009, 04:20:11 PM
Who?
You're a douche.
QuoteFormer Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair has been killed, a source has confirmed to ESPN.com.
McNair, 36, suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head in downtown Nashville, police spokesperson Don Aaron said. A female victim was also found dead. Aaron said the woman has not been identified, pending notification of next of kin.
The incident happened near 2nd South & Lea Ave in Nashville.
McNair played 13 seasons in the NFL, 11 were with the Titans. He played his final two years with the Baltimore Ravens, retiring after the 2007 season.
"We are saddened and shocked to hear the news of Steve McNair's passing today," Titans owner K.S. "Bud" Aadams Jr. said in a statement. "He was one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family as they deal with his untimely passing."
McNair was picked third overall in the 1995 draft out of Alcorn State by the then Houston Oilers.
A shame. He was a great player and a great competitor. Even though he always failed me in fantasy, he won me over on the field. :(
:(
Wow, that's horrible. RIP :(
Isn't McNair married? Maybe the chick is someone he's having an affair with and his wife shot em both. :ph34r:
I'm still shocked that it wasn't crybaby Vince Young offing himself.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 04, 2009, 06:14:55 PM
I'm still shocked that it wasn't crybaby Vince Young offing himself.
Vince Young is the prime suspect.
Quote from: Neil on July 04, 2009, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 04, 2009, 06:14:55 PM
I'm still shocked that it wasn't crybaby Vince Young offing himself.
Vince Young is the prime suspect.
If I were Nashville PD, that's who I'd look at.
Naturally with Vince's noted accuracy, it was probably a suicide attempt and Steve just happened to be walking by.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 04, 2009, 07:54:41 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 04, 2009, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 04, 2009, 06:14:55 PM
I'm still shocked that it wasn't crybaby Vince Young offing himself.
Vince Young is the prime suspect.
If I were Nashville PD, that's who I'd look at.
Naturally with Vince's noted accuracy, it was probably a suicide attempt and Steve just happened to be walking by.
:pinchL
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 04, 2009, 07:54:41 PM
If I were Nashville PD, that's who I'd look at.
Naturally with Vince's noted accuracy, it was probably a suicide attempt and Steve just happened to be walking by.
:lol:
RIP Steve
More details emerge.
QuoteFormer Ravens quarterback Steve McNair, who won a division title and 15 games in two seasons in Baltimore, was found dead of multiple gunshot wounds in a Nashville condominium Saturday, and a woman found dead with him was shot once in the head, police said. He was 36.
Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron identified the woman as Sahel Kazemi, 20, whom he called a friend of McNair's. Police said autopsies were planned for today.
Police had no suspects in custody Saturday, but several visitors at the apartment complex were taken to headquarters for questioning "just to see what they know, what they may have seen," Aaron said.
Aaron said McNair's wife, Mechelle, is "very distraught" and that police do not believe she was involved in the shooting.
The bodies were discovered Saturday afternoon by Wayne Neeley, a longtime friend of McNair's who said he rents the condo with McNair.
Aaron said Neeley told authorities he went into the condo and found McNair on the sofa and Kazemi on the floor in the living room. Neeley then called McNair's bodyguard Robert Gaddy, who contacted police.
Police said a witness saw McNair arrive at the condo between 1:30 and 2 a.m. Saturday and that Kazemi's vehicle was already there.
Nashville police arrested Kazemi two days ago on a DUI charge while driving a 2000 Escalade registered to her and McNair. McNair was in the front passenger seat of the Escalade but was allowed to leave by taxi.
I tell ya, nothing can get you killed like pussy.
Hm, I still think it might have been the wife.
Quote from: Caliga on July 05, 2009, 07:38:45 AM
Hm, I still think it might have been the wife.
OK, Mr. Airbus.
QuoteMcNair, a hometown hero who did extensive charity work in Nashville, had several gunshot wounds, including one to the head. He was found on the sofa of a Second Avenue condominium that he rented, police said. Sahel Kazemi, 20, was found on the floor near him with a single gunshot wound to her head. A pistol was found near her body.
Killed by the mistress? How embarrassing.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2009, 07:48:57 AM
A pistol was found near her body.
Oh, I missed that line. :blush:
Quote from: Caliga on July 05, 2009, 08:00:03 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2009, 07:48:57 AM
A pistol was found near her body.
Oh, I missed that line. :blush:
You should respond with a 'the wife set her up to look that way, CSI will tell us the truth!' statement.
That's the flipside about messing around with younger chicks.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2009, 08:14:37 AM
That's the flipside about messing around with younger chicks.
It's pretty uncommon for them to shoot you.
I think we all know who the real suspect is, the man who on McNair's last team was already once accused of murder. :contract:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 05, 2009, 08:22:08 AM
I think we all know who the real suspect is, the man who on McNair's last team was already once accused of murder. :contract:
Have fun being banned.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 05, 2009, 08:22:08 AM
I think we all know who the real suspect is, the man who on McNair's last team was already once accused of murder. :contract:
Improper comments in a death thread. Poster warned.
Quote from: Neil on July 05, 2009, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2009, 08:14:37 AM
That's the flipside about messing around with younger chicks.
It's pretty uncommon for them to shoot you.
It's a trend this year. Every other day when I look at police reports at work there is some sort of shooting or stabbing of a guy by a woman (usually girlfriends). It never used to happen a lot.
The (formerly) happy couple:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmsimg.tennessean.com%2Fapps%2Fpbcsi.dll%2Fbilde%3FSite%3DDN%26amp%3BDate%3D20090704%26amp%3BCategory%3DSPORTS01%26amp%3BArtNo%3D90704013%26amp%3BRef%3DAR%26amp%3BMaxW%3D318%26amp%3BBorder%3D0&hash=14a56b309ac22e339849af31db2f842c93dae99e)
QuoteEvents of McNair shooting still not clear
Nashville police await test results; plan more interviews
By Scott Calvert | [email protected]
July 7, 2009
The pistol apparently used to kill former Ravens quarterback Steve McNair and his girlfriend Saturday was bought by the 20-year-old woman less than two days earlier, Nashville, Tenn., police said Monday.
Authorities stressed that they have not concluded that Sahel Kazemi killed the retired football star and then turned the gun on herself. Police are awaiting the results of a ballistics analysis, including gunshot residue tests, and tracking down details of the pair's final hours.
"We are beginning to make some headway into trying to understand what took place," police spokesman Don Aaron said at a news conference. "Do we fully understand what took place? No."
An autopsy determined that McNair, 36, was shot three times from more than three feet away and once in the temple at close range, according to the Tennessean newspaper. Kazemi was shot once in the forehead, with the semiautomatic gun ending up beneath her body.
Sunday night, detectives interviewed Kazemi's ex-boyfriend, Keith Norfleet, whose stepmother said he had hoped to win her back right up to her death. Norfleet, 24, was "very cooperative" and was allowed to go home afterward, the police spokesman said.
As the investigation proceeded Monday, McNair's former teammates and coaches grappled with his death. A married father of four, he played for the Ravens in 2006 and 2007. Jeff Fisher, who coached him for 11 seasons with the Tennessee Titans, said he didn't want McNair's name tainted by the way his life ended.
"We all have the right to judge, and my hope is that Steve will be remembered ... for what he did and what he meant to this organization," Fisher said. "My hope is that we can get past the circumstances and let those go, and dwell and stay focused on the type of player and person that he was."
The still-murky circumstances of the deaths puzzled some close to the case. "Nobody thinks it makes any sense that this girl did it," said Trudy Norfleet, Keith Norfleet's stepmother. "She'd been at our house a few times for holidays, dinners. She was a very quiet girl, didn't have a whole lot to say."
Norfleet and Kazemi met in Jacksonville, Fla., when he was 20 and she was 16. Their dating spanned four rocky years, punctuated by arguments and periodic breakups. Although Norfleet knew Kazemi and McNair had been dating for several months, he and Kazemi kept seeing each other, Trudy Norfleet said.
"She's been dating both of them," Norfleet told The Baltimore Sun. Speaking of her stepson, she said: "He's totally in love with that girl. I guess he would have done anything to spend time with her. Every time they broke up he was devastated."
Keith Norfleet, who could not be reached for comment, has said in published reports that Kazemi had intended to end her relationship with McNair. Relatives of Kazemi, however, have told news outlets that she believed McNair planned to divorce his wife, Mechelle, though no divorce filings had been made.
Norfleet manages a White Castle restaurant, his stepmother said, and he could not compete with the wealth of McNair, who met Kazemi at the Dave & Buster's restaurant where she waited tables. McNair treated Kazemi to fancy trips and gave her a Cadillac Escalade for her 20th birthday in May.
Still, Norfleet and Kazemi were reportedly together on Thursday, hours after Kazemi was arrested and charged with driving under the influence. She was in the Escalade with McNair and a third person when the police pulled her over between 1 a.m. and 1:30 a.m. Thursday, Aaron said.
It was Thursday evening when Kazemi bought the pistol from a person Aaron would not identify. "This was a private sale from person to person," he said, declining further details. Under federal law, it is illegal for anyone under 21 to purchase a gun, said Kristin Helm, spokeswoman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
The two bodies were found Saturday afternoon by Wayne Neeley, a longtime friend of McNair's who rented the condo with him. Police believe McNair and Kazemi died early that morning.
Neeley told authorities he found McNair on a sofa and Kazemi on the floor in the living room. Neeley said he called another close friend of McNair's, Robert Gaddy, who called police.
Aaron said Monday that police had yet to interview witnesses who may have seen McNair Friday night and early Saturday at two bars, the Blue Moon Lagoon and Loser's Bar & Grill.
A witness saw McNair arrive at the condo between 1:30 a.m. and 2 a.m. Saturday and that Kazemi's Escalade was there.
A former co-worker of Kazemi's said Monday he could not imagine her shooting McNair and then herself. Brandon Millichamp, 24, worked with her for about a year at Dave & Buster's.
"She was really bubbly, outgoing, flirty, super-sweet," Millichamp said in an interview. "I didn't like her work ethic as much, but we had a lot of fun when we worked together."
Millichamp quit in December, before Kazemi and McNair began dating. But he said the quarterback had long been a regular. A big tipper, McNair often asked to be served by Jenny, as Kazemi was known among friends.
She sounds like a basket case. :huh:
Rule #1: Don't stick your dick in crazy.
Dating teenage girls is just asking for trouble.
Even if they don't end up shooting you that is just stupid.
Lab tests confirm the girlfriend pulled the trigger, murder-suicide it is.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlesports/archives/173249.asp
Yeah, saw that. It was already pretty obvious, but I guess that confirms it.
Quote from: Caliga on July 08, 2009, 01:39:48 PM
Yeah, saw that. It was already pretty obvious, but I guess that confirms it.
There was some speculation that her exboyfriend did it, but yeah I agree, it just confirms the obvious explanation.
My theory is that McNair decided to dump her after the DUI or something and told her so on the phone, she was distraught and got the gun, and then when he went over to do it in person she flipped out like a ninja.
Quote from: Caliga on July 08, 2009, 01:39:48 PM
Yeah, saw that. It was already pretty obvious, but I guess that confirms it.
Too obvious.
I'd say somebody contracted a professional.
Who? We will never know.
Professionals are very good at creating obvious suicide/murder-suicide scenes. Everybody think is a set up, but the evidence is so strong, that people start thinking that maybe it was a real suicide/ murder-suicide.
And a murder/suicide means case closed.
I didn't know people like that girl's ex-boyfriend existed in real life.
I thought losers like that only existed in american teen movies.
Do you think a might have got a bank loan to pay for the hit?
He doesn't fill the profile.
:huh:
Siege is ultra-experienced in murder-for-hire.
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 02:57:36 PM
Siege is ultra-experienced in murder-for-hire.
He has experience, but not expertise.
Quote from: Caliga on July 08, 2009, 01:46:01 PM
My theory is that McNair decided to dump her after the DUI or something and told her so on the phone, she was distraught and got the gun, and then when he went over to do it in person she flipped out like a ninja.
I heard on the radio they think McNair was asleep when he was shot the first time, if I find a link I will bring it back with me.
Quote from: Caliga on July 08, 2009, 01:46:01 PM
My theory is that McNair decided to dump her after the DUI or something and told her so on the phone, she was distraught and got the gun, and then when he went over to do it in person she flipped out like a ninja.
He was probably telling her that he was going to leave his wife, and when he finally fessed up that he wouldn't: ganked.
QuotePolice: Jealous Kazemi shot Steve McNair while he slept
By Kate Howard
THE TENNESSEAN
UPDATED 3:35 P.M.
Police have determined that Sahel Kazemi murdered former Titans quarterback Steve McNair last weekend with four shots while he was asleep on the couch, then sat down next to him and shot herself in the temple.
Metro Police Chief Ronal Serpas said at a press conference this afternoon that their interviews with Kazemi's friends and coworkers showed that in the last five to seven days of her life, the 20-year-old felt her life was unraveling.
She had recently saw signs that McNair may be involved with another woman, and she might have been worried about making rent payments and payments on two cars, including a Cadillac Escalade registered in both her and McNair's name.
"We do believe there was evidence that she was spinning out of control," Serpas said.
Serpas said Kazemi shot McNair in the right temple. That was followed quickly with two shots to the chest from about two to four feet away. Then she shot him in the left temple, which Serpas said was a "contact shot" within two inches from his head.
Then she sat next to him on the couch, Serpas said, in such a way that police believe she tried to stage her suicide to fall into his lap. She shot herself in the temple. Police think she fell into McNair's lap, then gravity pulled her to the floor.
According to preliminary results from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, the 9-mm pistol found underneath Kazemi's body was the same that killed both of them. While blood contaminated the gunshot residue test, there was trace evidence of residue on her left hand.
Serpas said Kazemi had become very distraught, and on two occasions told friends and associates that her life was all messed up and she "was going to end it all." Several things were overwhelming her, including financial problems, Serpas said. Her roommate was moving out, meaning her rent payment was about to increase. She was also making payments on the Escalade she co-owned with McNair.
Serpas said Kazemi saw McNair with another woman days before the murder and attempted to follow the woman, whom police said they talked to but Serpas did not identify.
Police also believe Kazemi purchased the gun in the parking lot of Dave & Buster's, where she worked, in the middle of a shift.
Serpas said there was no evidence that anyone else was involved, or that the crime scene had been tampered with by the men who found their bodies and called police that morning.
Serpas said they did not exact time of the shooting, but believed it happened sometime after 1 a.m. or 1:45 a.m. The next-door neighbor was not home that night, and arrived home between 6 a.m. and 6:30 a.m., and heard nothing after that.
Serpas said there were no drugs found at the scene or drug paraphernalia, but were awaiting toxicology reports on the bodies.
REPORTED EARLIER
A state medical examiner has said that preliminary testing from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation points to the likely conclusion of murder-suicide in the deaths of Steve McNair and Sahel Kazemi.
Feng Li, the assistant medical examiner who conducted the autopsies, said he will wait for the investigation to be closed before he completes Kazemi's death certificate to reflect that she died of suicide.
"The results were very consistent in supporting our decision," Li said.
Gunshot residue and ballistics testing are also consistent with a ruling of murder-suicide, Li said.
"With the lab tests to be obtained combined with the autopsy findings, we will put a final opinion on the death certificate," Li said.
Kazemi and McNair were found shot to death in a condo off Second Avenue on the afternoon of July 4. A semi-automatic pistol was found under Kazemi's body. Metro police said the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms traced the gun purchase back to Kazemi through a private person.
Metro Police Chief Ronal Serpas is scheduled to discuss the results of the ballistics and gunshot residue testing at a 2:45 press conference. The Tennessean plans to covers this press conference live on Tennessean.com.
Yeah, she was unraveling, alright.
QuoteOn the day of her DUI and the day police said she bought a gun, Sahel Kazemi posted all her furniture to Craigslist under a headline: "NICE FURNITURE. TV, COUCH, COFFE TABLE AND MORE - $1 (hermitage)."
The cell number listed in the ad matches the number police got from Kazemi, 20, on July 2 when she was arrested. It was later that day that police said she bought the gun that was found beneath her body.
Family members have said she was getting rid of her furniture because she was planning to move in with McNair. She listed a flat-screen TV, couch, dining room set and coffee table for sale.
She had been arrested early that morning and charged with DUI, driving a Cadillac Escalade titled to her and McNair. McNair came to bail her out of jail later that morning.
Crazy as fuck. Yet another reason that guns should be kept out of the hands of the general populance.
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
Crazy as fuck. Yet another reason that guns should be kept out of the hands of the general populance.
You are a fucking slave.
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
Crazy as fuck. Yet another reason that guns should be kept out of the hands of the general populance.
You are a fucking slave.
That's ridiculous. I have low-class people like you sent off to die in my name.
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
Crazy as fuck. Yet another reason that guns should be kept out of the hands of the general populance.
You are a fucking slave.
That's ridiculous. I have low-class people like you sent off to die in my name.
You want my guns? Come and take them!
You are an slave with not love for personal freedoms.
You are just another member of the herd.
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
Crazy as fuck. Yet another reason that guns should be kept out of the hands of the general populance.
You are a fucking slave.
That's ridiculous. I have low-class people like you sent off to die in my name.
You want my guns? Come and take them!
You are an slave with not love for personal freedoms.
You are just another member of the herd.
Why would I come for them myself? I will send trained men with guns to take them from you. You, being a thug, might try and resist, and you'll be killed. All the better, as people like you have no place in civilized society.
The problem is that personal firearms cannot maintain personal freedoms. They are exclusively used by citizens to terrorize and murder each other. In order to maintain order in society, it falls to the state to maintain an absolute monopoly on the legitimate use of deadly force. That way, all citizens can share in the bounty of prosperity.
Quote from: Caliga on July 08, 2009, 01:46:01 PM
My theory is that McNair decided to dump her after the DUI or something and told her so on the phone, she was distraught and got the gun, and then when he went over to do it in person she flipped out like a ninja.
He must've fallen asleep in the middle of the break-up then, because he was sleeping when he was shot.
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 07:03:23 PM
You want my guns? Come and take them!
You are an slave with not love for personal freedoms.
You are just another member of the herd.
Nothing more funny than someone in the military accusing someone else of being a member of the herd. :lmfao:
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 07:03:23 PM
You are an slave with not love for personal freedoms.
You are just another member of the herd.
Well I don't know about the rest of that but you are probably right that Neil doesn't have much love for your personal freedoms.
Has Vince Young offed himself yet?
Quote from: DGuller on July 09, 2009, 10:33:53 AM
He must've fallen asleep in the middle of the break-up then, because he was sleeping when he was shot.
Yes, this information became known to me after I posted my hypothesis. :)
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
Crazy as fuck. Yet another reason that guns should be kept out of the hands of the general populance.
You are a fucking slave.
That's ridiculous. I have low-class people like you sent off to die in my name.
You want my guns? Come and take them!
You are an slave with not love for personal freedoms.
You are just another member of the herd.
Why do you need a weapon?
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 09, 2009, 03:13:40 PM
Why do you need a weapon?
Because it is fun silly. Also, as Red Dawn shows us, we must be prepared to shoot Russian/Cuban/Nicaraguan paratroopers. They are eating each other in Kansas City.
Quote from: DGuller on July 09, 2009, 10:33:53 AM
He must've fallen asleep in the middle of the break-up then, because he was sleeping when he was shot.
Yeah, my thinking is she had a key, let herself in while he was asleep, and did the deed.
If it had just been a four-shot revolver, she would still be alive! :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 09, 2009, 03:18:07 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 09, 2009, 03:13:40 PM
Why do you need a weapon?
Because it is fun silly. Also, as Red Dawn shows us, we must be prepared to shoot Russian/Cuban/Nicaraguan paratroopers. They are eating each other in Kansas City.
Denver. :mad:
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:28:13 PM
The problem is that personal firearms cannot maintain personal freedoms. They are exclusively used by citizens to terrorize and murder each other. In order to maintain order in society, it falls to the state to maintain an absolute monopoly on the legitimate use of deadly force. That way, all citizens can share in the bounty of prosperity.
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 09, 2009, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:28:13 PM
The problem is that personal firearms cannot maintain personal freedoms. They are exclusively used by citizens to terrorize and murder each other. In order to maintain order in society, it falls to the state to maintain an absolute monopoly on the legitimate use of deadly force. That way, all citizens can share in the bounty of prosperity.
I didn't hear a thing.
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.
Quote from: Jaron on July 09, 2009, 11:49:16 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 09, 2009, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:28:13 PM
The problem is that personal firearms cannot maintain personal freedoms. They are exclusively used by citizens to terrorize and murder each other. In order to maintain order in society, it falls to the state to maintain an absolute monopoly on the legitimate use of deadly force. That way, all citizens can share in the bounty of prosperity.
I didn't hear a thing.
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.
Nice crop. ^_^
^_^ I suck.
Way to go, Neil and Siegy, for shitting up this thread.
Meanwhile, in the "I Is For Ironical" Department...
QuoteMcNair taped suicide prevention spot before death
Commercial has since been shelved
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Tennessee state officials say they had been preparing a youth suicide prevention public service announcement featuring former NFL quarterback Steve McNair before he was shot and killed last week.
The Tennessee Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities says it's shelving the 60-second television spot, which hasn't yet aired.
The department issued a statement Thursday saying "broadcasting it now is not only inappropriate but doesn't serve the community."
Department spokeswoman Jill Hudson said McNair taped the spot in April, and producers had been doing post-production work in hopes of using the announcement sometime this year.
Police say a 20-year-old girlfriend of McNair's shot and killed him on July 4 before killing herself in Nashville.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 09, 2009, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:28:13 PM
The problem is that personal firearms cannot maintain personal freedoms. They are exclusively used by citizens to terrorize and murder each other. In order to maintain order in society, it falls to the state to maintain an absolute monopoly on the legitimate use of deadly force. That way, all citizens can share in the bounty of prosperity.
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.
And yet you live in a barbarian hellhole, while I live in a safe country. I win.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 10, 2009, 05:33:37 AM
Way to go, Neil and Siegy, for shitting up this thread.illing herself in Nashville.
Fuck off. We know how he died and why. It's all over but the crying. The only new news that could possibly come about this is if nude pictures of crazy bitch come up, or if Vince Young, trying to compete with Steve McNair, pays a hooker to shoot him.
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 07:54:59 AM
Fuck off. We know how he died and why. It's all over but the crying. The only new news that could possibly come about this is if nude pictures of crazy bitch come up, or if Vince Young, trying to compete with Steve McNair, pays a hooker to shoot him.
The only worry is that she shoots him in the head making him a veggy and no one notices the difference.
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 07:53:01 AM
And yet you live in a barbarian hellhole, while I live in a safe country. I win.
Safe if I have a gun. ^_^
Besides, you're pretty much our vassals, seriously.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 09, 2009, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:28:13 PM
The problem is that personal firearms cannot maintain personal freedoms. They are exclusively used by citizens to terrorize and murder each other. In order to maintain order in society, it falls to the state to maintain an absolute monopoly on the legitimate use of deadly force. That way, all citizens can share in the bounty of prosperity.
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.
why? it's a crib from
Leviathan
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 10, 2009, 05:33:37 AM
Way to go, Neil and Siegy, for shitting up this thread.
Do not mention my name with that mothefucker's in the same sentence.
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 12:48:15 PM
Do not mention my name with that mothefucker's in the same sentence.
Two people who post on Languish are Siegy and Neil.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 09, 2009, 03:13:40 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 08, 2009, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
Crazy as fuck. Yet another reason that guns should be kept out of the hands of the general populance.
You are a fucking slave.
That's ridiculous. I have low-class people like you sent off to die in my name.
You want my guns? Come and take them!
You are an slave with not love for personal freedoms.
You are just another member of the herd.
Why do you need a weapon?
Making weapons illegal only take the guns from the hands of the law-abiding citizens. Criminal will still keep theirs, and when they break into a house, they will do that with the confidence that the house dwellers have no weapons to defend themselves and/or prevent the criminals from robbing the house.
Quote from: Valmy on July 10, 2009, 12:49:00 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 12:48:15 PM
Do not mention my name with that mothefucker's in the same sentence.
Two people who post on Languish are Siegy and Neil.
You break my heart. I never expected this from you.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 07:53:01 AM
And yet you live in a barbarian hellhole, while I live in a safe country. I win.
Safe if I have a gun. ^_^
Besides, you're pretty much our vassals, seriously.
And Alci owns Neil once again.
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 12:54:19 PM
Making weapons illegal only take the guns from the hands of the law-abiding citizens. Criminal will still keep theirs, and when they break into a house, they will do that with the confidence that the house dwellers have no weapons to defend themselves and/or prevent the criminals from robbing the house.
If somebody breaks into my house, I would very much hope that they would be extremely confident that I'm unarmed. Being shot by a jumpy burglar because I reached too fast to hand over my money would be sub-optimal.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 07:53:01 AM
And yet you live in a barbarian hellhole, while I live in a safe country. I win.
Safe if I have a gun. ^_^
Besides, you're pretty much our vassals, seriously.
My country is rich. Yours is poor.
Besides, a gun doesn't make you safe.
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 12:54:19 PM
Making weapons illegal only take the guns from the hands of the law-abiding citizens. Criminal will still keep theirs, and when they break into a house, they will do that with the confidence that the house dwellers have no weapons to defend themselves and/or prevent the criminals from robbing the house.
If you have a gun, the criminals will come back with a machine gun. If you have a machine gun, the criminals will come back with an atom bomb.
The best solution is to make firearms illegal, and then arm the police and have them search homes and execute people with firearms.
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 12:59:58 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 07:53:01 AM
And yet you live in a barbarian hellhole, while I live in a safe country. I win.
Safe if I have a gun. ^_^
Besides, you're pretty much our vassals, seriously.
And Alci owns Neil once again.
Alci is an infantryman. As such, he's ignorant scum and isn't really capable of making a good argument. All he does is masturbate over his firearm and then chant 'USA! USA! USA!!'.
Pathetic.
Quote from: DGuller on July 10, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
If somebody breaks into my house, I would very much hope that they would be extremely confident that I'm unarmed. Being shot by a jumpy burglar because I reached too fast to hand over my money would be sub-optimal.
As your experience showed you. ^_^
Quote from: saskganesh on July 10, 2009, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 09, 2009, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 08, 2009, 07:28:13 PM
The problem is that personal firearms cannot maintain personal freedoms. They are exclusively used by citizens to terrorize and murder each other. In order to maintain order in society, it falls to the state to maintain an absolute monopoly on the legitimate use of deadly force. That way, all citizens can share in the bounty of prosperity.
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.
why? it's a crib from Leviathan
Never trust that an infantryman has read anything.
QuoteAlci is an infantryman. As such, he's ignorant scum and isn't really capable of making a good argument. All he does is masturbate over his firearm and then chant 'USA! USA! USA!!'.
Pathetic.
Hey now, I'm not Siegy ok? And besides, I'm out in 14 days.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 10, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
If somebody breaks into my house, I would very much hope that they would be extremely confident that I'm unarmed. Being shot by a jumpy burglar because I reached too fast to hand over my money would be sub-optimal.
As your experience showed you. ^_^
An excellent point. Dorsey's experience has shown him that it's better to cooperate, as it costs you less. Of course, the criminal has no fear in the US, as there is no chance of him ever having to pay for his crime.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 04:35:35 PM
As your experience showed you. ^_^
Yes. The best thing you can do is to keep the burglar calm. If you have a gun, then you better hand it over to him, even if he's already armed.
Quote from: DGuller on July 10, 2009, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 04:35:35 PM
As your experience showed you. ^_^
... If you have a gun, then you better hand it over to him, even if he's already armed.
Puhleeze. I'll hand over the bullets at a rapid rate, but not the gun. Or my bayonet strapped to my leg.
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 10, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
If somebody breaks into my house, I would very much hope that they would be extremely confident that I'm unarmed. Being shot by a jumpy burglar because I reached too fast to hand over my money would be sub-optimal.
As your experience showed you. ^_^
An excellent point. Dorsey's experience has shown him that it's better to cooperate, as it costs you less. Of course, the criminal has no fear in the US, as there is no chance of him ever having to pay for his crime.
But at least DG didn't buckle to 3rd graders like Spellus.
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
Of course, the criminal has no fear in the US, as there is no chance of him ever having to pay for his crime.
That is of course why we have the highest incarcerated population in the world. :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 10, 2009, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
Of course, the criminal has no fear in the US, as there is no chance of him ever having to pay for his crime.
That is of course why we have the highest incarcerated population in the world. :P
And yet you hardly execute any of them, and even then only after enormous effort and deliberation.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 04:36:20 PM
QuoteAlci is an infantryman. As such, he's ignorant scum and isn't really capable of making a good argument. All he does is masturbate over his firearm and then chant 'USA! USA! USA!!'.
Pathetic.
Hey now, I'm not Siegy ok? And besides, I'm out in 14 days.
I suppose you apparently have the ability to make it into college, which indicates that you're not completely ignorant. And yet you don't believe in an orderly society, which indicates that you're dangerous.
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 04:36:20 PM
QuoteAlci is an infantryman. As such, he's ignorant scum and isn't really capable of making a good argument. All he does is masturbate over his firearm and then chant 'USA! USA! USA!!'.
Pathetic.
Hey now, I'm not Siegy ok? And besides, I'm out in 14 days.
I suppose you apparently have the ability to make it into college, which indicates that you're not completely ignorant. And yet you don't believe in an orderly society, which indicates that you're dangerous.
Is Alci the next "Lone Wolf" shooter?
I mean...C'mon...hes from Canada...this is troll of epic proportions. :D
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 07:09:06 PM
I mean...C'mon...hes from Canada...this is troll of epic proportions. :D
And Siegey kept walking into Neil's claymores and footpoppers.
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 07:53:01 AM
And yet you live in a barbarian hellhole, while I live in a safe country. I win.
Safe if I have a gun. ^_^
Besides, you're pretty much our vassals, seriously.
My country is rich. Yours is poor.
Besides, a gun doesn't make you safe.
I am an american citizen. My country is richer AND far more powerful than yours.
The only thing I ever got from Canada, was the KIMS game, and even that, wasn't originally canadian. It was invented by a brit and the canadians barely modernized it.
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 12:59:58 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 07:53:01 AM
And yet you live in a barbarian hellhole, while I live in a safe country. I win.
Safe if I have a gun. ^_^
Besides, you're pretty much our vassals, seriously.
And Alci owns Neil once again.
Alci is an infantryman. As such, he's ignorant scum and isn't really capable of making a good argument. All he does is masturbate over his firearm and then chant 'USA! USA! USA!!'.
Pathetic.
That's your envy speaking.
You wish you were american, or at least had the balls to immigrate here and become an american citizen and a soldier.
Don't hate me for your failures, or lack of balls.
Did I just own Neil?
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 10, 2009, 07:10:48 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 07:09:06 PM
I mean...C'mon...hes from Canada...this is troll of epic proportions. :D
And Siegey kept walking into Neil's claymores and footpoppers.
What do you mean? That he is trolling me?
Nobody can troll me.
I smell trolls farther away than I smell hajj, and I can smell hajj half-way around the globe.
Neil is really that pathetic, and hide his patheticness behind apparent trolliness.
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 08:42:12 PM
I smell trolls farther away than I smell hajj, and I can smell hajj half-way around the globe.
Are you sure it's not just your breath?
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 08:39:17 PM
That's your envy speaking.
You wish you were american, or at least had the balls to immigrate here and become an american citizen and a soldier.
Don't hate me for your failures, or lack of balls.
Why would I want to be an American? No health care. No financial stability. Black people. High crime rate. Ballot propositions. Elected civil servants. Firearms. Christians in government. An unhealthy attitude towards the armed forces. As it is, I get all of the benefits of being American, and none of the drawbacks.
Besides, I'm far too intelligent to be a soldier. Were I to join the military, if it were to become necessary for some great national reason, I would join a useful service, like the navy.
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 07:09:06 PM
I mean...C'mon...hes from Canada...this is troll of epic proportions. :D
Most Canadians love an orderly society.
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2009, 08:35:30 PM
I am an american citizen. My country is richer AND far more powerful than yours.
You are part of the Israeli military, and a traitor (what with the whole spying for the Chinese thing).
Take him away.
Quote from: Neil on July 10, 2009, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on July 10, 2009, 07:09:06 PM
I mean...C'mon...hes from Canada...this is troll of epic proportions. :D
Most Canadians love an orderly society.
Peace, order, and good government. :yes:
QuoteMcNair killer's dark last days come to light
A host of problems weighed on 20-year-old Sahel Kazemi's mind
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — - At just 19 years old, Sahel Kazemi thought she had it all: She was dating former NFL star Steve McNair, partying in VIP rooms and vacationing in Las Vegas.
When her family visited Nashville for her 20th birthday less than two months ago, they said she was very happy and planning to move in with McNair. She thought he was in the final stages of a divorce from his wife of 12 years.
Only there was no divorce. And Kazemi's happiness soon changed into something much darker.
Nashville police said in the days leading up to the murder-suicide, Kazemi saw another young woman leaving the condominium where she and McNair would soon be found dead. She was worried about money. She was arrested for driving under the influence. She bought a gun and told a co-worker she was thinking about "ending it."
About two weeks before police say Kazemi killed McNair and herself, she poured out her troubles in a chance meeting with Vera Mosley Buckner, a customer at the Dave and Buster's restaurant where Kazemi worked. The young waitress asked Buckner, a stranger, whether she could talk to her.
"She sat down in the booth in front of me and the first thing she said was, 'Have you ever been in love?' " said Buckner, of Decatur, Ala.
Kazemi - who was laid to rest during a 30-minute ceremony at Jacksonville (Fla.) Memory Gardens on Friday with 30 friends and family members in attendance - then opened her heart.
"She said, 'I date Steve McNair,' " Buckner said. " ... And she said, 'We've been dating for eight months and we've been on all kinds of vacations, but lately he acts like he doesn't want to spend time with me and I don't know what to do.' "
By the early hours of the Fourth of July, she had made up her mind.
Police said that when McNair went to his downtown condo between 1:30 a.m. and 2 a.m. Saturday, Kazemi's car was already there. He was sitting on the sofa, likely asleep, when she shot him twice in the head and twice in the chest. Then she sat down next to him, positioning herself so that she would fall into his lap, and shot herself.
Family and friends were shocked at the news, describing Kazemi as a sweet girl who did not have it in her to kill someone. They also said she would not have wanted to kill herself.
"She was enjoying her life," nephew Farzin Abdi said. "She just had it made, you know, [with] this guy taking care of everything."
Abdi said Kazemi, who went by the name Jenni, met McNair while working as a waitress at Dave and Buster's.
Restaurant manager Chris Truelove said of Kazemi: "She was pretty outgoing. A lot of the guests liked being around her, and she liked being around the guests."
She was slender, with long, black hair and an olive complexion. Her looks were compelling enough that Buckner's two daughters asked Kazemi to take a picture with them.
Kazemi told relatives that she refused McNair's advances at first. But soon they began dating, and before long he was at her apartment a couple of nights a week - so often that neighbors thought he might be living there.
Abdi said McNair took Kazemi on vacations to Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Key West, Fla., and his home state of Mississippi. Pictures of the two parasailing together have surfaced on the celebrity Web site TMZ.com.
All that would have been exciting for any young woman, but it must have seemed unbelievable for Kazemi, who dropped out of high school and moved to Nashville from Florida with a boyfriend at age 17, sometimes working two or three jobs to support herself.
Born in Iran, she and her family were persecuted for their Baha'i faith, Abdi said.
When Kazemi was 9, her mother was murdered, according to an account her ex-boyfriend gave The Tennessean newspaper in Nashville. After that, the family fled to Turkey before settling in Florida.
Despite the tragedy of her childhood, she was relentlessly upbeat.
Asked to describe her personality, Abdi said: "She was a very energetic girl. She never got tired. She wanted to have fun all the time."
She was proud of the fact that she did not have to ask her family for money, and from what she told Abdi, McNair also liked her independence.
"He liked her so much because they would go shopping and stuff and she would want to spend her own money," Abdi said. "The reason he said he loves her is because she's not trying to use him like other girls. She was different from other girls he had been with."
But police said Kazemi was spiraling out of control in the days just before killing McNair and taking her own life - although there was no suicide note.
Police said she had recently begun to suspect McNair was seeing another young woman. Kazemi had even followed that woman home, although she did not confront her.
And she was starting to get into financial trouble. Her roommate had recently moved out, doubling her rent. And she was making payments on a Kia as well as a Cadillac Escalade that she had said was a gift from McNair. The title was in both of their names.
She had been pulled over for DUI in that Escalade two days before the Fourth of July. She had posted an ad on Craigslist to sell her furniture because, according to Abdi, she planned to move in with McNair.
Later that Thursday, Kazemi purchased a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol for $100 from a man in the parking lot of the mall where she worked. The next day she told an associate her life was awful and "I should just end it."
That might be the last clue to what motivated her actions after she left work early and ended up at McNair's condo.
As police chief Ronal Serpas said, "It will never be known exactly what was on Kazemi's mind early Saturday morning."
Only crazy people date muslims.
Yeah, the Baha'i are muslims. They might claim otherwise, but their culture is shia.
Quote from: Siege on July 12, 2009, 03:36:57 AM
Only crazy people date muslims.
Yeah, the Baha'i are muslims. They might claim otherwise, but their culture is shia.
What about when you 'dated' all those Palestinian kids?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2009, 08:28:13 AM
QuoteMcNair killer's dark last days come to light
As police chief Ronal Serpas said, "It will never be known exactly what was on Kazemi's mind early Saturday morning."
We know exactly what went through her mind that morning. :huh:
QuoteFelon faces gun charge in McNair case
Convicted murderer arrested, allegedly admitted he sold weapon that killed ex-QB
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — - Former Ravens quarterback Steve McNair's mistress bought the gun she used to kill him from a convicted murderer whose fiancee was afraid to have it in the house, authorities said Friday.
Adrian J. Gilliam Jr., 33, of La Vergne was charged with being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm. He admitted selling a 9 mm Bryco/Jennings to Sahel Kazemi for $100, according to court documents.
Kazemi, 20, shot McNair to death at his condo July 4 before killing herself. Authorities say she met Gilliam while she was trying to sell her car and told him she was looking to buy a gun.
A criminal complaint says Gilliam - who was convicted in 1993 in Florida for murder and attempted armed robbery - told police he sold the gun to Kazemi, whom he identified from a police photo.
Detectives traced the gun to its 2002 sale at a pawn shop. Gilliam eventually bought it from someone for $100 about a year and a half ago. Investigators said he told them he bought it for protection after his home was burglarized, and police reports show a burglary around that time.
Nashville Police Chief Ronal Serpas said at a news conference Friday that Gilliam decided to sell the gun because his wife was afraid to have it in their house.
Federal public defender Hugh Mundy said Gilliam is not married but is engaged to a woman with whom he has a 2-year-old daughter.
Gilliam has been out of jail for seven years and has had no other trouble with the law in that time, Mundy said.
"No one denies this is a tragedy," Mundy said. "Steve McNair was one of Nashville's heroes. A lot of lives have already been ruined. But Mr. Gilliam is a decent, hardworking family man and there's no reason to ruin his life, too."
Police had said last week that Kazemi purchased "a fully loaded 9 mm pistol from a private individual" who met her in the parking lot of the mall where she worked at the Dave & Buster's restaurant. That's also where she first met McNair. The sale took place two days before the shooting.
Authorities said McNair was likely asleep when Kazemi put the pistol to his head and pulled the trigger. She put two more slugs into his chest and a fourth bullet into the other side of his head before shooting herself.
McNair, a married father of four, walked away from the NFL last year.
U.S. Attorney Edward Yarbrough said Kazemi's age did not make the sale of the gun illegal. A licensed dealer is barred from selling a gun to someone younger than 21, but private sales to people older than 18 are legal, he said.
Convicted felons, however, cannot have guns. Jim Cavanaugh, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives special agent in charge in Nashville, held up a pistol similar to the one used to kill McNair and said, "A convicted felon cannot receive it, possess it, buy it, store it, hold it, shoot it, aim it, clean it, or do anything with it."
Gilliam faces up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. He was in court Friday afternoon, but a hearing to set bond was delayed until Wednesday.
Gotta love it. Convicted of murder in 1993, but has been out of jail for seven years. You'd think he was convicted in Europe or something.
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2009, 09:30:53 AM
We know exactly what went through her mind that morning. :huh:
Of course, a 9mm bullet. ;)
Quote from: Strix on July 18, 2009, 10:18:02 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2009, 09:30:53 AM
We know exactly what went through her mind that morning. :huh:
Of course, a 9mm bullet. ;)
Brain != mind.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and a crazy bitch is just a crazy bitch.
QuotePolice release messages between McNair, Kazemi
By Lucas L. Johnson II
The Associated Press
11:34 PM EDT, October 19, 2009
NASHVILLE, Tenn.NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - Text messages show a woman asked former NFL quarterback Steve McNair to transfer $2,000 into her bank account hours before police say she shot him to death, then turned the gun on herself.
Nashville police released the text messages Monday night as part of a case summary and detailed the exchanges between the two hours before the July 4 murder-suicide.
Sahel Kazemi texted McNair on July 3 to say she was so stressed she might have a breakdown and asked for money to pay cell phone bills. One text said she might need to go to a hospital because she could hardly breathe.
Police say texts show McNair had someone transfer the money. The texts also show Kazemi meeting McNair at the Nashville condominium where he was shot. He asked her to leave the front door open for him.
Spokesman Don Aaron said he has been working to summarize the case for weeks and denied it was a response to a two-part report on CBS' "The Early Show" questioning the original investigation.
"If anyone has information that needs to come to the attention of the police department, we'll be happy to receive it as part of this investigation," Aaron told The Associated Press. "But at this juncture, there has been nothing uncovered that suggests this is not a murder-suicide."
The CBS report Monday interviewed friends portraying Kazemi as happy and showed that she had approximately $2,500 in her bank account at the time of her death.
But the 50 text messages from the cell phones of both Kazemi and McNair released Monday night support the police's contention that she was spiraling out of control.
Kazemi's texts to McNair talk of her showing furniture she planned to sell to some people and how she was at a store "trying to fix" her phone. She wanted to pay bills before going to work. When she said she could hardly breathe, McNair asked if she wanted him to come over. She said she would take a nap.
McNair texted her that afternoon, saying he had someone transfer the money.
Kazemi later texted McNair three times asking to be with him that night. He said he was having trouble getting his sons to sleep. But at that time, McNair was seen at a restaurant with friends. Kazemi texted she was going to his condo. He texted back at 12:38 a.m. that he was on his way and asked her to open the front door at 12:52 a.m. Kazemi told him at 1:14 a.m. it was open.
The last text was at 2:23 with Kazemi saying, "I am going to the store." But police say the message received by McNair's phone seemed oddly placed in the stream of messages and out of synch. A T-Mobile specialist told police it could be a service or technical problem that caused a delay in the delivery of the message.
The summary also details how police checked video footage from businesses in the area and found a law firm camera caught the backside of the condo where their bodies were found later July 4. The footage did not show any suspicious activity or departure in the early hours of that morning.
Police also list the shift manager at the restaurant where Kazemi worked who told officers something seemed to be bothering Kazemi on July 3. Sonya New said she asked Kazemi if everything was all right when the server told her of her DUI arrest on July 2. The manager also knew of Kazemi's roommate moving and asked about McNair's divorce.
"And she (Kazemi) just rolled her eyes. New said at the end of the conversation, Kazemi said, "My life is just (awful) and I should end it."
Business was slow that night when Kazemi asked if she could leave early. She clocked out at 10:07 p.m.
The summary also includes new information from the woman Kazemi followed from McNair's condo, suspicious that he was involved with someone else.
Police also say Leah Ignagni confirmed she was dating McNair and recalled seeing a woman in a black Cadillac Escalade parked outside his condo two or three weeks before his murder. Ignagni saw the woman follow her and later saw the Escalade circling her block or parked outside her apartment a week or two later. A 2007 black Escalade was co-registered both to Kazemi and McNair.
Ignagni told police McNair visited her around 4 a.m. on July 2 - a couple hours after Kazemi's arrest - to tell her "Jenni" had been arrested for DUI. McNair then spent the night of July 2 at Ignagni's apartment but left early July 3.
The report also includes details from the crime scene that blood stains showed Kazemi's upper body was in McNair's lap before sliding to the floor. Police also found the gun under Kazemi's head with an impression in the carpet the summary said indicates neither the gun nor Kazemi's body was moved before officers arrived.
:blink:
Girls.
It's a good thing some let you go up their poop shoot.
<_<