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Title: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Syt on November 20, 2016, 07:53:38 AM
You can click through the list here (still the same rule, only one game per franchise):

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/11/18/the-50-best-strategy-games-on-pc/



Or you can just see this list below:


The Complete List
1   Civilization IV
2   Alpha Centauri
3   Crusader Kings II
4   Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance
5   King of Dragon Pass
6   UFO: Enemy Unknown
7   Europa Universalis IV
8   Endless Legend
9   Homeworld
10   Jagged Alliance II
11   Invisible, Inc. [new entry]
12   XCOM 2
13   Distant Worlds: Universe
14   Dominions IV
15   Solium Infernum
16   Total War: Warhammer [new entry]
17   Neptune's Pride
18   Company of Heroes
19   Panzer Corps
20   Men of War
21   StarCraft II
22   Unity of Command
23   DEFCON
24   Galactic Civilzations 2
25   AI War
26   Dwarf Fortress
27   Gary Grigsby's War in the East
28   Rise of Nations
29   Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War
30   Wargame: AirLand Battle
31   Championship Manager: Season 01/02
32   Startopia
33   Cities: Skylines [new entry]
34   Warcraft III
35   Age of Wonders II
36   The Banner Saga 2 [new entry]
37   Prison Architect [new entry]
38   Frozen Synapse
39   Heroes of Might and Magic III
40   Offworld Trading Company [new entry]
41   Myth
42   Ground Control
43   The Settlers II
44   Battle for Wesnoth
45   Darkest Dungeon [new entry]
46   Warlords II
47   Imperialism 2 [new entry]
48   RollerCoaster Tycoon 2
49   Hearts of Iron IV [new entry]
50   Transport Tycoon

Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Syt on November 20, 2016, 07:57:59 AM
The entry for DEFCON may have been written by fahdiz:

QuoteDEFCON is the strategy game most likely to make you wake up in a cold sweat. It's an abstract simulation of thermonucler war, in which the tension rises along with the DEFCON level, and frantic deals lead to bitter betrayal. It's a game in which people are reduced to numbers (and ashes). Scores are measured in megadeaths inflicted and, in the default setting, causing a megadeath on an opponent's territory is worth two points while losing a million citizens in your own territory only loses one point. The value of life.

The presentation is immaculately sinister and minimalist, and while DEFCON is unlikely to keep you playing through the night, you might lose sleep anyway. The closest strategy gaming comes to horror.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: mongers on November 20, 2016, 08:46:35 AM
I've played all of six of those games.  :blush:

1   Civilization IV
2   Alpha Centauri
....
5   King of Dragon Pass
....
28   Rise of Nations
......
43   The Settlers II
.....
50   Transport Tycoon
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Syt on November 20, 2016, 08:51:17 AM
I have not played (i.e. spent at least an hour with) these games (though I own some of them, thanks to sales):

Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance
Homeworld
Invisible, Inc. [new entry]
Dominions IV
Total War: Warhammer [new entry]
Neptune's Pride
StarCraft II
AI War
Dwarf Fortress
Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War
Wargame: AirLand Battle
Startopia
The Banner Saga 2 [new entry]
Offworld Trading Company [new entry]
Ground Control
RollerCoaster Tycoon 2
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Razgovory on November 20, 2016, 09:48:27 AM
Command and Conquer/Dune deserves some mention.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Josquius on November 20, 2016, 10:42:59 AM
Civ IV? :unsure:
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: garbon on November 20, 2016, 10:59:29 AM
Startopia isn't a very good game let alone great.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: mongers on November 20, 2016, 01:59:02 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 20, 2016, 10:42:59 AM
Civ IV? :unsure:

Small typo?
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 20, 2016, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: Syt on November 20, 2016, 07:57:59 AM
The entry for DEFCON may have been written by fahdiz:

QuoteDEFCON is the strategy game most likely to make you wake up in a cold sweat. It's an abstract simulation of thermonucler war, in which the tension rises along with the DEFCON level, and frantic deals lead to bitter betrayal. It's a game in which people are reduced to numbers (and ashes). Scores are measured in megadeaths inflicted and, in the default setting, causing a megadeath on an opponent's territory is worth two points while losing a million citizens in your own territory only loses one point. The value of life.

The presentation is immaculately sinister and minimalist, and while DEFCON is unlikely to keep you playing through the night, you might lose sleep anyway. The closest strategy gaming comes to horror.


Oh, for fuck's sake. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: dps on November 20, 2016, 09:19:31 PM
I've played:

2   Alpha Centauri

3   Crusader Kings II

24   Galactic Civilzations 2

27   Gary Grigsby’s War in the East

39   Heroes of Might and Magic III

47   Imperialism 2 [new entry]

That's 7 of 50.

I'd only consider CKII, War in the East, and HoMMIII great games.  Though to be honest, there haven't been 50 PC strategy games that I'd consider to actually be great.  And Master of Orion (I or II, definitely not 3), Master of Magic, and Colonization should be in there somewhere.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Ed Anger on November 20, 2016, 09:25:35 PM
Startopia is trippy while waiting for the novocaine to wear off and the vicodin to kick in.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Alcibiades on November 20, 2016, 11:43:01 PM
I've played 33 of the 50 on the list.  Startopia isn't one of them...
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: 11B4V on November 21, 2016, 12:28:13 AM
 :huh:

Only 3 here from that list.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Valmy on November 21, 2016, 12:38:14 AM
HoI 4? TW: Warhammer? Really?
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on November 21, 2016, 03:06:55 AM
A pity that the Imperialism series stopped at just 2.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Valmy on November 21, 2016, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 21, 2016, 03:06:55 AM
A pity that the Imperialism series stopped at just 2.


Yeah that was a great series.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: mongers on November 21, 2016, 09:00:24 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 21, 2016, 03:06:55 AM
A pity that the Imperialism series stopped at just 2.

Trump bought the rights, hear he's planning on doing a MMRWRPG version.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Josephus on November 21, 2016, 05:38:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 21, 2016, 12:38:14 AM
HoI 4? TW: Warhammer? Really?

Yeah that makes me wonder how they compile this list. HOI IV?
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Josquius on November 22, 2016, 03:22:40 AM
HoI after 2 is just awful.

QuoteSmall typo?
No, the site says IV. Which is just odd. How is 4 better than 5?  (I've yet to play 6)
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Razgovory on November 22, 2016, 06:13:35 AM
I think the sequels are counted as the entire series.  For instance, Civ II was the game in that series I got the most fun out of.  I've played 29.  That all the games aren't from the last five years.  Some call-backs to the 1990's are good.  I didn't play PC games in the 1980's so I don't know much about those.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Duque de Bragança on November 22, 2016, 06:23:53 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 21, 2016, 08:51:30 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 21, 2016, 03:06:55 AM
A pity that the Imperialism series stopped at just 2.


Yeah that was a great series.

I really only enjoyed Imperialism II, despite various bugs.
More than the very good already Conquest of the New World, better than Colonization IMO (unless it's the modded new version).
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: garbon on November 22, 2016, 06:28:49 AM
Quote from: Tyr on November 22, 2016, 03:22:40 AM
HoI after 2 is just awful.

QuoteSmall typo?
No, the site says IV. Which is just odd. How is 4 better than 5?  (I've yet to play 6)

I think I'd say II and IV are my favorites. Played a lot more of each one of them than I played out of V. VI is nice but as their blurb about Civ suggested, it still has a bit to go before its the best of the series.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: grumbler on November 22, 2016, 08:06:40 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 22, 2016, 06:23:53 AM
I really only enjoyed Imperialism II, despite various bugs.
More than the very good already Conquest of the New World, better than Colonization IMO (unless it's the modded new version).

I dunno.  Colonization (the original version) was very good.  I loved the idea of crating up horses and storing them for use in the war for Independence.

Imperialism II was good, but not that good.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: grumbler on November 22, 2016, 08:35:46 AM
Jagged Alliance 2 the number ten strategy game of all time?

Fuckin' A.  This game never got the praise it deserved.  I still play it today.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Tamas on November 22, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
I liked Imperialism I better than II.

Colonization was far superior to Conquest of the  New World.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Duque de Bragança on November 22, 2016, 08:44:01 AM
The biggest joke of the list is Panzer Corps, how a graphic improvement of the good ole Panzer General made it to 19 is beyond me.
Panzer General II, People's General are way ahead, despite being published in the '90s. Open General, Battle of Wesnoth for the Panzer General series, is so much better and no DLCs to buy.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Tonitrus on November 23, 2016, 12:35:27 AM
I liked Command HQ.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Sophie Scholl on November 23, 2016, 04:28:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on November 22, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
Colonization was far superior to Conquest of the  New World.
I loved both of those games.  They were both in heavy rotation in my earlier computer days along with No Greater Glory and Kingmaker.  That being said, I think the Starcraft was the game that really broke my preference for consoles and turned it to pc.  If we're going for series as opposed to the seemingly random ones listed, I've spent at least a few hours with about 11 of the different games.  Some a lot more than that.  Hahaha
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: garbon on November 23, 2016, 04:58:23 AM
:hmm: How many of these have I played.

1   Civilization IV
2   Alpha Centauri
3   Crusader Kings II
5   King of Dragon Pass
7   Europa Universalis IV
12   XCOM 2
24   Galactic Civilzations 2
26   Dwarf Fortress
28   Rise of Nations
32   Startopia
33   Cities: Skylines [new entry]
34   Warcraft III
35   Age of Wonders II
37   Prison Architect [new entry]
39   Heroes of Might and Magic III
44   Battle for Wesnoth
46   Warlords II [This is a typo as their list has a page about Warlords III]
48   RollerCoaster Tycoon 2

So 18.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Pedrito on November 23, 2016, 06:53:11 AM
1   Civilization IV
2   Alpha Centauri
3   Crusader Kings II
5   King of Dragon Pass
7   Europa Universalis IV
8   Endless Legend
9   Homeworld
13   Distant Worlds: Universe
18   Company of Heroes
21   StarCraft II
23   DEFCON
24   Galactic Civilzations 2
26   Dwarf Fortress
27   Gary Grigsby's War in the East
28   Rise of Nations
29   Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War
31   Championship Manager: Season 01/02
32   Startopia
33   Cities: Skylines [new entry]
34   Warcraft III
37   Prison Architect [new entry]
39   Heroes of Might and Magic III
40   Offworld Trading Company [new entry]
45   Darkest Dungeon [new entry]
48   RollerCoaster Tycoon 2

Oh gosh, 25 of them  :blush: and other games in the Total War, XCOM and Banner Saga series.

Most hours spent on:
Civilization franchise
Alpha Centauri
CK2
GalCiv 2
Championship Manager franchise

Total tally of hours: ridiculous.

L.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Tamas on November 23, 2016, 07:01:18 AM
If giving it a try counts as playing, then I am around 37
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Tonitrus on November 23, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 22, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
I liked Imperialism I better than II.

Colonization was far superior to Conquest of the  New World.

I liked Seven Cities of Gold better than either of those.
Title: Re: RPS' Top 50 Strategy Games 2016
Post by: Josquius on November 24, 2016, 09:08:54 AM
Yes. I preferred the first imperialism. That game needs a remake.
Colonisation.... could never get into. I didn't like the linearity and forcing you into this path that a war for independence was the only right way.