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Title: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2016, 07:25:09 PM
When it makes landfall, it could almost be as strong as Berkut posting in a thread.

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'This storm will kill you': Hurricane Matthew intensifies to Category 4 as it approaches Florida
By Mark Berman and Renae Merle
Washington Post
October 6 at 8:07 PM

JACKSONVILLE — The strongest storm system to threaten the United States in a decade roared toward Florida on Thursday, forcing thousands from their homes and prompting dire warnings from forecasters and public officials alike.

Floridians hunkered down Thursday as pelting rain and punishing wind began to pummel the state, the first sting of a deadly hurricane expected to grind its way up the coast overnight and through most of the day Friday.

Gov. Rick Scott (R) repeatedly pleaded with residents to take the storm seriously, urging the 1.5 million Floridians in evacuation zones to leave and describing Hurricane Matthew in increasingly blunt terms as he tried to describe the peril.

"This is serious," Scott said during one of his briefings Thursday. "This storm will kill you. Time is running out."

Matthew tore through Haiti this week and caused nearly 300 deaths just in the southern part of that country, officials said, before pushing across the Bahamas and threatening to strafe a stretch of the East Coast that runs from South Florida to North Carolina.

All across the Southeastern United States, life's normal routines gave way to the bedlam of a looming storm. Emergencies were declared, evacuations ordered, schools closed and scores of flights grounded. College football games were even canceled or postponed.

Authorities stressed the dangers of the storm, while the National Hurricane Center issued a series of foreboding bulletins warning of "potentially disastrous impacts for Florida" and "life-threatening" flooding over the coming days in that state as well as Georgia and the Carolinas. The National Weather Service warned that the gusting winds could leave some places "uninhabitable for weeks or months."

While the storm had weakened at one point during its journey, by Thursday it had surged to a Category 4 hurricane with maximum sustained winds of 140 mph.

As the rain began to fall in Florida, all eyes looked east as the unprecedented storm slowly approached. By early Saturday, hurricane conditions could extend into Georgia and South Carolina, the National Hurricane Center warned. More than 2.5 million people were under evacuation orders from Florida to South Carolina, most of them in Florida, where the state opened dozens of shelters to house them.

President Obama signed emergency declarations for Florida and South Carolina, ordering federal aid and allowing federal authorities to coordinate disaster relief efforts.

Scott had already declared a state of emergency in Florida, as have his counterparts in Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina. Obama spoke by telephone with all four governors Thursday to discuss preparations for the storm, saying he is committed to providing the federal resources needed to respond, the White House said.

Across the southeast, waves of schools shuttered their campuses and closed government offices. Colleges from Florida International University in Miami and the University of Central Florida in Orlando canceled classes, as did schools as far north as the University of South Carolina and the College of Charleston.

The University of Florida called off its game against Louisiana State on Saturday, and Central Florida postponed a scheduled football game against Tulane. Other major college games scheduled over the weekend — in Columbia, S.C., and Miami — remained tentatively on the calendar as planned.

Airlines canceled more than 2,800 flights set to travel through Florida's airports on Thursday and Friday. Even mainstays of Florida life were impacted: Walt Disney World said it would close early on Thursday and remain closed Friday, as did SeaWorld in Orlando and Universal's parks.

Floridians either fled their homes or huddled with supplies after making the customary last-minute trips to Publix for bottled water, bread and peanut butter. They gathered batteries and flashlights, erected plywood and lowered shutters. In some cases, people headed inland or to safer ground with friends or family, while others planned to have hurricane parties to pass the hours spent locked down.

Scott said Thursday he had activated more than 3,500 Florida National Guard members, but he told residents not to view them as an escape valve for anyone who decides not to evacuate.

"We should not be putting people's lives at risk because you made the foolish decision not to evacuate," he said during a briefing Thursday afternoon.

Interstate 95 through northern Florida appeared largely abandoned during the afternoon rush hour. Drivers heading away from Jacksonville, the south's most populous city, heeded warnings from Scott and other officials that they had heard before.

"I wasn't going to leave, but it is starting to look bad," said Elaine Green, 68, a retired registered nurse, at a rest stop south of Jacksonville, where she lives near the beach. "This could be like all the other times. They always say evacuate, evacuate. ... If it bad as they say, then, okay, I will be glad I left."

In Jacksonville's Riverside-Avondale neighborhood, west of downtown, residents talked over whether to leave with their neighbors.

"I'm getting the hell out of here," said a tall, pony-tailed man stuffing loose clothes and towels and blankets into his Chevy SUV. "I'm packing up my dog and getting out of here."

Forecasters warned of broad dangers posed by what they called a "life-threatening" storm, the first major hurricane to hit the United States since Wilma in 2005. Last month, Hurricane Hermine had slammed into Florida's Gulf Coast before it was quickly downgraded to a tropical storm.

Before the storm made it to Florida, the Bahamas took a punishing blow on Thursday after a slight wobble in the track kept Matthew's strong inner core among the islands longer than expected. Matthew blasted Nassau with extreme wind gusts of at least 100 mph that toppled palm trees and ripped the roofs off homes. The wind was so strong that the country's official weather stations went offline during the peak of the storm, making direct observations nearly impossible.

The hurricane appears to be without comparison in modern Florida history for eastern and central Florida, and could lead to multi-billion dollar damages across the state, according to the Capital Weather Gang. Florida Power and Light, the state's utility, warned that up to 2.5 million people could lose power, and warned that some people could face "extended outages as we rebuild parts of the grid."

The National Weather Service said gusting wind could have "possible devastating impacts" on the eastern coast of central Florida and outlined possible consequences: "Structural damage to sturdy buildings, with complete roof and wall failures. Complete destruction of mobile homes. Damage may greatly accentuated by large airborne projectiles."

As people flooded the roads to get out of town, air travel was severely restricted by the looming storm. American Airlines canceled all flights Thursday through the three South Florida airports — in Miami, Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach — as well as flights through Orlando's airport after 5:30 p.m.

Delta, JetBlue and American Airlines all announced waivers allowing people to change flights traveling through the Southeast, Bahamas and Caribbean without paying any penalty.

Airlines canceled a combined 3,100 flights through the United States on Thursday and Friday, the bulk of them traveling through Florida, according to FlightAware.com.

At the Jacksonville airport on Thursday, Arnold Paredes, spent hours devising a way to get to Panama after his connection through Miami was canceled.

Lugging two large red pieces of luggage and his wife, Sara, from airline counter to airline counter, he said his attempts had been frustrated by the storm.

"We planned this trip for a year," said Arnold, 42, while his wife, who said she had given up before they left their home this morning, flipped through a magazine. "Vacation, to get away from everything."

He planned to rent a car and head inland to find an open airport. "I am not ready to give up," he said.

While Florida prepared for the country's first brush with Matthew, other states were also getting ready for the storm to rake across their communities.

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (R) had evacuated Charleston and Beaufort counties — home to more than half a million people — and on Thursday, she followed that by evacuating other residents in some of the state's coastal areas. She also warned that more evacuations could follow.

Authorities in South Carolina also said that voters there would extend deadlines for voter registration, a move that came amid questions about how the storm would impact the upcoming presidential election.

In Georgia, Gov. Nathan Deal (R) announced mandatory evacuations in six of the state's coastal counties, a stretch east of Interstate 95 with more than 530,000 residents. North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) said he remained "cautiously optimistic" about the hurricane's projected impact on his state, but said residents were not in the clear yet and asked them to keep monitoring the storm.

On Wednesday, Obama had scrapped two planned events in Florida on Wednesday and visited the Federal Emergency Management Agency's headquarters in Washington for a hurricane briefing instead. He urged residents to be ready and pay attention to warnings from authorities.

"I want to make sure that everybody is paying attention to your local officials," he said during remarks after his briefing. "If there is an evacuation order in your community, you need to take it seriously. ... [E]ven if you don't get the full force of the hurricane, we are still going to be seeing tropical force winds, the potential for a storm surge, and all of that could have a devastating effect."

The Floridians readying for the storm are a mix of veterans who have been through this before and those unaccustomed to the routines of amassing canned soup, plywood and flashlights. People who headed out to prepare found grocery aisles scraped clean of water and long lines at their local Home Depot.

At a Home Depot near Stirling Road in Hollywood, two employees secured seven sturdy pieces of plywood to the roof of black Hyundai sedan.

"It took us about three hours to get in and out," Alex Ozenaski said outside a Home Depot in Hollywood while two employees secured plywood to the roof of his black Hyundai. "We had just moved to South Florida when Hurricane Wilma hit in 2005. We weren't prepared. This time, we are almost prepared."

    This hurricane is life-threatening. Listen to your local officials and follow evacuation notices.

    — Rick Scott (@FLGovScott) October 6, 2016

Jordan Guadalupe, an 18-year-old juice-maker, said he had lived in South Florida when Wilma hit and called that storm "devastating."

On Wednesday, even as his family in Lauderdale-by-the-Sea put up shutters and bought sandbags, Guadalupe was worried about finding other supplies.

"We're right by the ocean," he said.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2016, 07:26:24 PM
It's not hype — Hurricane Matthew has been blasting through records (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/10/05/its-not-hype-hurricane-matthew-has-been-blasting-through-records/?tid=a_inl)
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Ed Anger on October 06, 2016, 07:45:52 PM
There is gonna be a shitload of dead old people.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: mongers on October 06, 2016, 07:48:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2016, 07:25:09 PM
When it makes landfall, it could almost be as strong as Berkut posting in a thread.


So you're predicting Tallahassee will take the full force of it?
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: mongers on October 06, 2016, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 06, 2016, 07:45:52 PM
There is gonna be a shitload of dead old people.

I was hoping Timmay was going to post this topic and so taint the likely outcome.  :(
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Monoriu on October 06, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
Why not build houses and buildings that can actually withstand the wind?  When a typhoon hits Hong Kong, it is holiday time for us.  We go to the malls and restaurants and enjoy the day off. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: HVC on October 06, 2016, 07:52:19 PM
CNN must be jizzing their pants. Nothing sells like dead people.
Title: save -e
Post by: mongers on October 06, 2016, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
Why not build houses and buildings that can actually withstand the wind?  When a typhoon hits Hong Kong, it is holiday time for us.  We go to the malls and restaurants and enjoy the day off.

Aren't many parts of Hong Kong surrounded by large hills and some mountains and so in part protect from the worst wind speeds?

There ain't no mountain on the Florida coast or in the Bahamas, as far as I'm aware. :unsure:
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2016, 07:56:43 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 06, 2016, 07:49:16 PM
I was hoping Timmay was going to post this topic and so taint the likely outcome.  :(

Too busy with asteroids patrolled by Incan torpedo boats.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on October 06, 2016, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
Why not build houses and buildings that can actually withstand the wind?  When a typhoon hits Hong Kong, it is holiday time for us.  We go to the malls and restaurants and enjoy the day off.

You rang? :)

For the most part, construction is up to withstanding tropical weather.  A tropical storm or minor hurricane is generally not an issue.  Major hurricanes are always an issue, though.  It's really hard to build buildings that can withstand 120kt+ winds without making them look like bunkers.

Hong Kong doesn't get storms like Florida does.  The one that just rolled over y'all last weekend only had maximum sustained winds of 85kts, yet according to the BBC was the most power typhoon to hit in over three decades.  85kts is a hurricane party in South Florida, too.  120kts is OHSHIT weather.
Title: Re: save -e
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on October 06, 2016, 08:06:08 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 06, 2016, 07:56:13 PM
There ain't no mountain on the Florida coast or in the Bahamas, as far as I'm aware. :unsure:

Well, there's the Florida Range, but it's kinda far inland and gently-sloped so the garbage trucks can get to the top.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: mongers on October 06, 2016, 08:10:31 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on October 06, 2016, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
Why not build houses and buildings that can actually withstand the wind?  When a typhoon hits Hong Kong, it is holiday time for us.  We go to the malls and restaurants and enjoy the day off.

You rang? :)

For the most part, construction is up to withstanding tropical weather.  A tropical storm or minor hurricane is generally not an issue.  Major hurricanes are always an issue, though.  It's really hard to build buildings that can withstand 120kt+ winds without making them look like bunkers.

Hong Kong doesn't get storms like Florida does.  The one that just rolled over y'all last weekend only had maximum sustained winds of 85kts, yet according to the BBC was the most power typhoon to hit in over three decades.  85kts is a hurricane party in South Florida, too.  120kts is OHSHIT weather.

I sort was sort of wondering about this, my gut instinct was Caribbean/Atlantic Hurricanes are just have more powerful storm wind than other ocean systems ? :unsure:
Title: Re: save -e
Post by: mongers on October 06, 2016, 08:13:28 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on October 06, 2016, 08:06:08 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 06, 2016, 07:56:13 PM
There ain't no mountain on the Florida coast or in the Bahamas, as far as I'm aware. :unsure:

Well, there's the Florida Range, but it's kinda far inland and gently-sloped so the garbage trucks can get to the top.

:D

I looked it up, you weren't kidding, not exactly massive is it.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Scipio on October 06, 2016, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 06, 2016, 08:10:31 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on October 06, 2016, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
Why not build houses and buildings that can actually withstand the wind?  When a typhoon hits Hong Kong, it is holiday time for us.  We go to the malls and restaurants and enjoy the day off.

You rang? :)

For the most part, construction is up to withstanding tropical weather.  A tropical storm or minor hurricane is generally not an issue.  Major hurricanes are always an issue, though.  It's really hard to build buildings that can withstand 120kt+ winds without making them look like bunkers.

Hong Kong doesn't get storms like Florida does.  The one that just rolled over y'all last weekend only had maximum sustained winds of 85kts, yet according to the BBC was the most power typhoon to hit in over three decades.  85kts is a hurricane party in South Florida, too.  120kts is OHSHIT weather.

I sort was sort of wondering about this, my gut instinct was Caribbean/Atlantic Hurricanes are just have more powerful storm wind than other ocean systems ? :unsure:
Everything is bigger in America.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2016, 08:16:34 PM
Quote from: HVC on October 06, 2016, 07:52:19 PM
CNN must be jizzing their pants. Nothing sells like dead people.

CNN? Fuck, more like Syfy.  With a possible 12 ft storm surge, Sharknado, my ass--we're talking Gatorsunami.  They're going to be grumpy, and everywhere.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: mongers on October 06, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
Quote from: Scipio on October 06, 2016, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 06, 2016, 08:10:31 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on October 06, 2016, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
Why not build houses and buildings that can actually withstand the wind?  When a typhoon hits Hong Kong, it is holiday time for us.  We go to the malls and restaurants and enjoy the day off.

You rang? :)

For the most part, construction is up to withstanding tropical weather.  A tropical storm or minor hurricane is generally not an issue.  Major hurricanes are always an issue, though.  It's really hard to build buildings that can withstand 120kt+ winds without making them look like bunkers.

Hong Kong doesn't get storms like Florida does.  The one that just rolled over y'all last weekend only had maximum sustained winds of 85kts, yet according to the BBC was the most power typhoon to hit in over three decades.  85kts is a hurricane party in South Florida, too.  120kts is OHSHIT weather.

I sort was sort of wondering about this, my gut instinct was Caribbean/Atlantic Hurricanes are just have more powerful storm wind than other ocean systems ? :unsure:
Everything is bigger in America.

Well many Europeans  seem to say why don't Americans just build stronger houses, as we've seen on Languish, most of those don't seem to appreciate that tornadoes or hurricanes are an order of magnitude more powerful that the strong breezes and storms we get over here.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on October 06, 2016, 09:28:15 PM
NAS Jax and Mayport are (mostly) closed tomorrow and Saturday.   Friend of mine left work at around 230-3ish, so I guess that's when they shut down today.  I think he's headed to Panama City. 

E:  I guess when it loops around, wrecks Miami, and goes into the Gulf or whatever, the other friend of mine he and his family are staying with can just go back over to his place in Jacksonville.  Heh.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: DGuller on October 06, 2016, 09:55:10 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 06, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
Well many Europeans  seem to say why don't Americans just build stronger houses, as we've seen on Languish, most of those don't seem to appreciate that tornadoes or hurricanes are an order of magnitude more powerful that the strong breezes and storms we get over here.
For some reason I can't really fathom, it's one of the more consistent attacks on America by Russians with inferiority complex.  "Americans are so stupid and shortsighted, they build houses from cardboard have them blown away by tornadoes, while we have brick houses that were built 300 years ago. :smarty:"
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: citizen k on October 06, 2016, 10:04:06 PM
Quote
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-matthew-evacuation-man-shot-dead-by-south-carolina-deputies-in-dispute/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-matthew-evacuation-man-shot-dead-by-south-carolina-deputies-in-dispute/)


CBS/AP October 6, 2016, 9:35 AM
Man shot dead by S.C. deputies in hurricane evacuation dispute


MIAMI -- A motorist shot during an altercation with South Carolina deputies over a HurricaneMatthew evacuation route has died.

Berkeley County Chief Deputy Coroner George Oliver says 35-year-old Lucas M. Felkel of Moncks Corner died shortly after 7 p.m. Wednesday.

Sheriff Duane Lewis says it happened about 5:30 p.m. Wednesday in Moncks Corner when a motorist came to a checkpoint, knocked down some traffic cones and sped off.

Lewis said he didn't know at the time what the subject told the officers, but he said there was some indication by the subject that the officers were in danger, CBS affiliate WCSC-TV reports.

"His actions placed the officers in danger," Lewis said. "The Moncks Corner police called the sheriff's office for assistance and we responded and picked up the chase on Old Highway 52."

The sheriff says when deputies finally caught up with the driver a few miles away he pointed a gun at deputies and started shooting. The sheriff says the deputies shot back, wounding the man who was taken to the hospital, where he later died.

No deputies were wounded, but the sheriff says that four deputies have been placed on administrative leave.

The State Law Enforcement Division is investigating. The coroner says an autopsy is scheduled.

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is taking every precaution in ordering a massive evacuation. To reduce delays, state troopers reversed all of the interstate's east-bound lanes, creating a one-way, six-lane freeway that stretches more than 100 miles from Charleston to Columbia. That's in addition to South Carolina's established network of hurricane evacuation routes.

Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Martinus on October 07, 2016, 12:35:56 AM
I'm looking forward to Hami's take on this.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: HVC on October 07, 2016, 07:35:30 AM
So was this hurricane a bust then?
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Hamilcar on October 07, 2016, 10:03:47 AM
They bought their coastal real estate, they knew what they were getting into.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Caliga on October 07, 2016, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on October 07, 2016, 10:03:47 AM
They bought their coastal real estate, they knew what they were getting into.
:hug:
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: lustindarkness on October 07, 2016, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on October 07, 2016, 10:03:47 AM
They bought their coastal real estate, they knew what they were getting into.

What about the ones that rented?
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: mongers on October 07, 2016, 02:50:08 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 07, 2016, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on October 07, 2016, 10:03:47 AM
They bought their coastal real estate, they knew what they were getting into.

What about the ones that rented?

[hami]

Their fault for not having a numbered Swiss bank account.

{/hami]
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Hamilcar on October 07, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
Is the "tornado" line even funny any more? It's what, 8 years old?
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Barrister on October 07, 2016, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on October 07, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
Is the "tornado" line even funny any more? It's what, 8 years old?

Au contraire, lines like that just get funnier over time.

I mean I don't think I've worn a pair of pants with pleats for ten years.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: lustindarkness on October 07, 2016, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 07, 2016, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on October 07, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
Is the "tornado" line even funny any more? It's what, 8 years old?

Au contraire, lines like that just get funnier over time.

I mean I don't think I've worn a pair of pants with pleats for ten years.

We don't believe you.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Barrister on October 07, 2016, 03:44:56 PM
See what I mean?
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2016, 04:26:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 07, 2016, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on October 07, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
Is the "tornado" line even funny any more? It's what, 8 years old?

Au contraire, lines like that just get funnier over time.

I mean I don't think I've worn a pair of pants with pleats for ten years.

People still think I have a basement.  And Hot Wheels tracks.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2016, 04:27:45 PM
OK, the Hot Wheels tracks are neither here nor there.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 07, 2016, 05:07:53 PM
Down to Cat 2.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: dps on October 07, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 06, 2016, 09:55:10 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 06, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
Well many Europeans  seem to say why don't Americans just build stronger houses, as we've seen on Languish, most of those don't seem to appreciate that tornadoes or hurricanes are an order of magnitude more powerful that the strong breezes and storms we get over here.
For some reason I can't really fathom, it's one of the more consistent attacks on America by Russians with inferiority complex.  "Americans are so stupid and shortsighted, they build houses from cardboard have them blown away by tornadoes, while we have brick houses that were built 300 years ago. :smarty:"

Natural disaster hits the US:  $15Billion in property damage, 15 dead.

Natural disaster hits somewhere else:  150,000 dead, a buck fifty in property damage.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: lustindarkness on October 07, 2016, 06:28:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 07, 2016, 05:07:53 PM
Down to Cat 2.

Why did you have so many cats?
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: jimmy olsen on October 07, 2016, 09:04:31 PM
Death toll in Haiti is over 800 and likely to go a lot higher. Entire towns have been razed to ground.  The countey never fully recovered from the earthquake and this is just setting back any progress made.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-matthew/hurricane-matthew-tolls-nears-500-impoverished-haiti-reuters-n661711
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: alfred russel on October 07, 2016, 09:28:03 PM
Only two scheduled football games for this week won't be played this weekend, Tulane vs. UCF, and UF vs. LSU. The Tulane/UCF game has been rescheduled for Nov. 5. So only the UF vs. LSU game is potentially to be cancelled, despite LSU offering to play on Sunday or even monday, including without an audience, or to host the game in Louisiana.

Florida declined all of them, and made the "counterproposal" that LSU cancel its home game the second to last game of the season, which is senior day, and travel to Florida, which would also mean LSU playing 3 SEC games in 13 days. Which LSU obviously won't do.

So why is Florida unwilling to play when every other game is going to get played? Oh yeah, there is that if Tennessee finishes 6-2 in the SEC, and Florida 6-1, Florida wins the division, but if Florida is 6-2 they don't (Tennessee will have the tiebreak).

Leave it to the Gators to try to exploit a natural disaster to weasel out of a game and gain an edge. Well, they call themselves Gators but they sure act like Chickens.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 08, 2016, 12:56:36 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 07, 2016, 09:28:03 PM
Only two scheduled football games for this week won't be played this weekend, Tulane vs. UCF, and UF vs. LSU. The Tulane/UCF game has been rescheduled for Nov. 5. So only the UF vs. LSU game is potentially to be cancelled, despite LSU offering to play on Sunday or even monday, including without an audience, or to host the game in Louisiana.

Florida declined all of them, and made the "counterproposal" that LSU cancel its home game the second to last game of the season, which is senior day, and travel to Florida, which would also mean LSU playing 3 SEC games in 13 days. Which LSU obviously won't do.

So why is Florida unwilling to play when every other game is going to get played? Oh yeah, there is that if Tennessee finishes 6-2 in the SEC, and Florida 6-1, Florida wins the division, but if Florida is 6-2 they don't (Tennessee will have the tiebreak).

Leave it to the Gators to try to exploit a natural disaster to weasel out of a game and gain an edge. Well, they call themselves Gators but they sure act like Chickens.

What's the status on retro uniforms?
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: alfred russel on October 08, 2016, 06:29:49 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 08, 2016, 12:56:36 AM

What's the status on retro uniforms?

I don't know - I don't pay so much attention to the fashion side of college football. I think there are plenty of posters that do, so I'm sure someone can help you.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: fromtia on October 08, 2016, 12:35:18 PM
I live in St.Augustine. My house is in Evacuation zone B, so I Evacuated Thursday morning. Bagged up all my comic books and put them in the central, sturdiest part of the house. Took my girlfriend and my cat and went to stay with gfs mom about 15 miles inland. Son of fromtia evacuated with his mother and is staying in Gainesville. Her house is on the barrier island here, so in a real shitty spot.

Downtown flooded, so did the barrier island. National Guard deployed and so on. I returned to my house this morning and damage is minor, torn soffits and a demolished fence panel. I even have power. Cat was a real champ about the whole thing.

Im pretty sure a lot of people are going to start crying about media hype and gubbermint conspiracy and so forth, because the town wasnt flattened. But I consider myself to have dodged a very large caliber bullet. The Storm veered away from the coast by about 50 miles late thursday night and lost some intensity (like a goth teenager finally eating a hot meal). Had we got a more or less direct hit from a Cat 4 St.Augustine would have been severely ploughed by a very big veiny dick. I would probably have a house with no roof at best.

Pretty relieved right now. :)
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 12:36:35 PM
Yes it's Obama and Hillary's fault.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: dps on October 08, 2016, 05:20:37 PM
Our yard is under about 2 feet of water now.  Another foot or so and it's going to get into the house.  We haven't been told to evacuate, but at this point if we have to, it'll have to be by boat.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: mongers on October 08, 2016, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: fromtia on October 08, 2016, 12:35:18 PM
I live in St.Augustine. My house is in Evacuation zone B, so I Evacuated Thursday morning. Bagged up all my comic books and put them in the central, sturdiest part of the house. Took my girlfriend and my cat and went to stay with gfs mom about 15 miles inland. Son of fromtia evacuated with his mother and is staying in Gainesville. Her house is on the barrier island here, so in a real shitty spot.

Downtown flooded, so did the barrier island. National Guard deployed and so on. I returned to my house this morning and damage is minor, torn soffits and a demolished fence panel. I even have power. Cat was a real champ about the whole thing.

Im pretty sure a lot of people are going to start crying about media hype and gubbermint conspiracy and so forth, because the town wasnt flattened. But I consider myself to have dodged a very large caliber bullet. The Storm veered away from the coast by about 50 miles late thursday night and lost some intensity (like a goth teenager finally eating a hot meal). Had we got a more or less direct hit from a Cat 4 St.Augustine would have been severely ploughed by a very big veiny dick. I would probably have a house with no roof at best.

Pretty relieved right now. :)

Heah, Formtia, good to hear from you and that everything is AOK and not going swimmingly in one respect if you get my off-shore drift.  :)
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: mongers on October 08, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: dps on October 08, 2016, 05:20:37 PM
Our yard is under about 2 feet of water now.  Another foot or so and it's going to get into the house.  We haven't been told to evacuate, but at this point if we have to, it'll have to be by boat.

Good grief, wereabouts are you?

Hope it works out ok.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 05:41:49 PM
I have 3 officers coming back from FLETC at Glynco, GA. Buildings flooded.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 05:41:49 PM
I have 3 officers coming back from FLETC at Glynco, GA. Buildings flooded.

3 officers? That's, what, at least 2 twisted ankles, one wrist and as many as 3 knees.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 05:41:49 PM
I have 3 officers coming back from FLETC at Glynco, GA. Buildings flooded.

3 officers? That's, what, at least 2 twisted ankles, one wrist and as many as 3 knees.

What are you blathering about.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
All the out of shape agents that go back to Glynco for re-certification, and they come back with as many fucked up joints as the yearly company softball game.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 07:42:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
All the out of shape agents that go back to Glynco for re-certification, and they come back with as many fucked up joints as the yearly company softball game.

Interesting, if not totally ignorant.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: dps on October 08, 2016, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 08, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: dps on October 08, 2016, 05:20:37 PM
Our yard is under about 2 feet of water now.  Another foot or so and it's going to get into the house.  We haven't been told to evacuate, but at this point if we have to, it'll have to be by boat.

Good grief, wereabouts are you?

Hope it works out ok.

Goldsboro, NC.  Scary thing is that we're fairly far inland, about 70 miles north of Wilmington.  No particularly high winds here, but a LOT of rain;  I've never seen standing water anywhere near this high here before.  But while the rain hasn't totally quit, it has slacked off, and the water in the yard is already going down.  So it looks like we'll be OK.  We didn't even lose power, though apparently a lot of people in the area did so.

EDIT:  Just heard on the news that about 109,000 people in Wayne County don't have power;  there are only about 123,000 people that live here, so we're in a lucky minority to still have electricity.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 11:10:04 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 07:42:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
All the out of shape agents that go back to Glynco for re-certification, and they come back with as many fucked up joints as the yearly company softball game.

Interesting, if not totally ignorant.

You must have a different federal government out there.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 11:10:04 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 07:42:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
All the out of shape agents that go back to Glynco for re-certification, and they come back with as many fucked up joints as the yearly company softball game.

Interesting, if not totally ignorant.

You must have a different federal government out there.

Hmm, my hiring over the last year, average age of 30. So get with the times old man.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 11:13:27 PM
Hmm, my hiring over the last year, average age of 30. So get with the times old man.

On behalf of a grateful nation, whoopdefuckingdo.
Title: Re: Hurricane Matthew Megathread of Destruction, Federal Aid for Federal Govt Haters
Post by: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 11:26:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2016, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 11:13:27 PM
Hmm, my hiring over the last year, average age of 30. So get with the times old man.

On behalf of a grateful nation, whoopdefuckingdo.
Seek help.  :lol: