I'll be in Fort Worth, TX (:alberta:) from August 28 - September 2. Is there anything that's a must see in Fort Worth? Does anyone here live in the area (and would be up for an IRL meeting)?
DFW is a very large airport with an assortment of shops and restaurants.
My dad lives there. Maybe take the old-fashioned train to Grapevine and back. Call it professional research. Eat Mexican food. I can get some recommendations if you want. Hell, I might be in town then.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 05, 2016, 03:39:38 PM
My dad lives there. Maybe take the old-fashioned train to Grapevine and back. Call it professional research. Eat Mexican food. I can get some recommendations if you want. Hell, I might be in town then.
Yeah, I'd definitely like recommendations for restaurants. Last time I was in the greater Dallas area the locals kept recommending chain breastaurants. (While I'm not denying they have an appeal, I'd rather go somewhere else.)
Quote from: Hamilcar on August 05, 2016, 03:38:19 PM
DFW is a very large airport with an assortment of shops and restaurants.
Doesn't that describe much of the developed world?
Seems to me DFW is exactly the place you would want to go to an over the top titteraunt. When in Rome.
Carry a gun. :P
Sav: Is this for BNSF?
My dad says:
Del Frisco
Reata
Texas de Brazil
Shady Oak for BBQ. Which is near BNSF if that's where you're going.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 05, 2016, 05:07:37 PM
Sav: Is this for BNSF?
Yes, I'll be at BNSF headquarters for a third party vendor training.
I'm not all that familiar with the Ft. Worth side of the Metroplex. What's is a decent choice, but Hard Eight just north of the airport is better. There are some interesting places near the Will Rogers Auditorium and the museums. I will have more input when I get home. Put me down for the meetup, though.
Quote from: mongers on August 05, 2016, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on August 05, 2016, 03:38:19 PM
DFW is a very large airport with an assortment of shops and restaurants.
Doesn't that describe much of the developed world?
No? Most of the world is not a very large airport.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 05, 2016, 05:19:15 PM
Yes, I'll be at BNSF headquarters for a third party vendor training.
My dad's wife...my mom-in-law...whatever you want to call it, works there. She's pretty great TBH.
Damn I am going to be there just a few days after you leave. :(
Hey if I'm already road trippin, I can go down to Austin just as easy.
My dad owns land in San Marcos, which might be the only thing I could ever inherit. ;)
Quote from: mongers on August 05, 2016, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 05, 2016, 04:29:15 PM
Seems to me DFW is exactly the place you would want to go to an over the top titteraunt. When in Rome.
Yeah, wise words.
I do believe most of the breastaurant chains originate from TX.
I know the Ur-breastaurant started somewhere in Florida.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 05, 2016, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 05, 2016, 05:07:37 PM
Sav: Is this for BNSF?
Yes, I'll be at BNSF headquarters for a third party vendor training.
Fuck those fucking fuck assholes. I was qualified to be an conductor trainee. :mad:
Hope headquarters decouples and derails. Assholes.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 05, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
Hey if I'm already road trippin, I can go down to Austin just as easy.
My dad owns land in San Marcos, which might be the only thing I could ever inherit. ;)
Nah just stay there. I will be there on the 6th and 7th for a training if anybody wants to meet up. Though I will be in Frisco, not Fort Worth.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 05, 2016, 05:55:25 PM
My dad's wife...my mom-in-law...whatever you want to call it, works there. She's pretty great TBH.
If you're dad's wife is also your mother-in-law, I think that means you're married to your sister. Something weird there in your family tree, anyway.
I assume you actually meant stepmom, but hey, it's really none of my business.
Quote from: dps on August 06, 2016, 03:42:49 AM
I assume you actually meant stepmom, but hey, it's really none of my business.
Yeah, stepmom. I guess I never really thought about it before. :lol:
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Quote from: Valmy on August 05, 2016, 08:35:09 PM
Nah just stay there. I will be there on the 6th and 7th for a training if anybody wants to meet up. Though I will be in Frisco, not Fort Worth.
Where in Frisco?
Northeast of the intersection of Sam Rayburn and Dallas Tollways.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on August 05, 2016, 05:21:11 PM
I'm not all that familiar with the Ft. Worth side of the Metroplex. What's is a decent choice, but Hard Eight just north of the airport is better. There are some interesting places near the Will Rogers Auditorium and the museums. I will have more input when I get home. Put me down for the meetup, though.
I'm guessing you will be staying near downtown, since BNSF is right next to it. Besides the places MIM recommended, Mi Cocina on Sundance Square is a good mid-scale Mexican place; it's a local chain. Also, there are two Del Frisco's there: Del Frisco's Double Eagle Steakhouse and Del Frisco's Grille. The former is what made Del Frisco's famous while the latter is a newer casual place.
If you don't mind going a couple miles out of downtown the Stockyards and Cultural District both have good options. Near the Stockyards is Joe T. Garcia's Mexican restaurant. Probably one of the most famous places in Ft. Worth. Dinner menu has literally three choices: beef fajitas, chicken fajitas, or family-style dinner with cheese enchiladas and beef tacos. Also, cash-only. Right next to the Stockyards are a pair of Tim Love restaurants. Lonesome Dove Western Bistro is a somewhat pricey high-end concept restaurant that would be a good alternative to Del Frisco's Double Eagle, particularly if you are interested in trying some exotic game meats like elk or rattlesnake. Love Shack is a gourmet burger place.
Over in the Cultural District Fred's Texas Cafe is a good choice for a variety of Texas staples. On the way to the Cultural District but a bit east are a couple other Mexican options. Chuy's is an Austin import famous for it's kitschy decor, Elvis worship, and oddly-named menu items. Gloria's is another local chain that focuses on southern Mexican and Guatemalan fare, which can be a welcome distraction from the onslaught of Tex-Mex.
That's the extent of my limited knowledge of Ft. Worth dining options. If you were over on this side of the Metroplex I could be much more helpful. :P
Quote from: Valmy on August 06, 2016, 12:50:14 PM
Northeast of the intersection of Sam Rayburn and Dallas Tollways.
Oh, right next to the Swedish meatballs. :)
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on August 06, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Oh, right next to the Swedish meatballs. :)
:lol:
Yep. Right behind in fact
Quote from: garbon on August 05, 2016, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 05, 2016, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on August 05, 2016, 03:38:19 PM
DFW is a very large airport with an assortment of shops and restaurants.
Doesn't that describe much of the developed world?
No? Most of the world is not a very large airport.
Though, if most of the world was an airport it would be a very large airport indeed.
If the whole world was an airport would you be able to fly to other cities? Or would you have to take a shuttle bus or one of those moving walkways?
Quote from: sbr on August 06, 2016, 04:00:37 PM
If the whole world was an airport would you be able to fly to other cities? Or would you have to take a shuttle bus or one of those moving walkways?
If the whole world was an airport you'd have the option to fly, because there you are, at an airport.
Quote from: Valmy on August 05, 2016, 05:56:26 PM
Damn I am going to be there just a few days after you leave. :(
Sorry I'm going to miss you.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on August 06, 2016, 01:35:40 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on August 05, 2016, 05:21:11 PM
I'm not all that familiar with the Ft. Worth side of the Metroplex. What's is a decent choice, but Hard Eight just north of the airport is better. There are some interesting places near the Will Rogers Auditorium and the museums. I will have more input when I get home. Put me down for the meetup, though.
I'm guessing you will be staying near downtown, since BNSF is right next to it. Besides the places MIM recommended, Mi Cocina on Sundance Square is a good mid-scale Mexican place; it's a local chain. Also, there are two Del Frisco's there: Del Frisco's Double Eagle Steakhouse and Del Frisco's Grille. The former is what made Del Frisco's famous while the latter is a newer casual place.
If you don't mind going a couple miles out of downtown the Stockyards and Cultural District both have good options. Near the Stockyards is Joe T. Garcia's Mexican restaurant. Probably one of the most famous places in Ft. Worth. Dinner menu has literally three choices: beef fajitas, chicken fajitas, or family-style dinner with cheese enchiladas and beef tacos. Also, cash-only. Right next to the Stockyards are a pair of Tim Love restaurants. Lonesome Dove Western Bistro is a somewhat pricey high-end concept restaurant that would be a good alternative to Del Frisco's Double Eagle, particularly if you are interested in trying some exotic game meats like elk or rattlesnake. Love Shack is a gourmet burger place.
Over in the Cultural District Fred's Texas Cafe is a good choice for a variety of Texas staples. On the way to the Cultural District but a bit east are a couple other Mexican options. Chuy's is an Austin import famous for it's kitschy decor, Elvis worship, and oddly-named menu items. Gloria's is another local chain that focuses on southern Mexican and Guatemalan fare, which can be a welcome distraction from the onslaught of Tex-Mex.
That's the extent of my limited knowledge of Ft. Worth dining options. If you were over on this side of the Metroplex I could be much more helpful. :P
Thanks vM and MiM. Let me know what days would work for you to meetup.
Bumping since we are closing in.
I'm pretty free in the evenings. After 7 would be best, considering the flow of traffic around here. What time are you coming in on Sunday?
I'll be in at about noon on Sunday. We should be done with class around 4:30 every day, if a weeknight works better for you.
I'm voting for Sunday evening.
Okay, sounds good, let me know when and where you want to meet. I'll PM you my phone number.
I saw the Kimbell Museum in Fort Worth yesterday. It's mostly minor works by major artists or major works by minor artists. The one standout piece, I thought was Glaucus and Scylla by William Turner:
(https://www.kimbellart.org/sites/default/files/styles/large_800/public/tms/AP1966_11_MAIN1.jpg?itok=VN-gsYLm)
It does cover most of European art from antiquity to post impressionism. (There are some pieces from later movements but not as comprehensive.) There are good sized collections of pre-Colombian, Asian and African art as well.
I met vM for dinner at Mi Cocina in downtown Fort Worth. I got a chuckle from the menu when I saw that "Carne Asada" was about $25; that would have bought you a week's worth of carne asada in Colombia (although in Fort Worth it was actual steak, in Colombia it was beef with more strings than the New York Philharmonic.) Then we went to Del Friscos where I learned Texas beers pack a wallop.
"The List" was restricted to people we had met. Scip got a solid shout out, since I believe he was the only person we have both met.
I made it to BNSF HQ; they're not as opulent as UP but still nice. They have conference rooms set up in old passenger train cars, complete with wood paneling and trim. It's a little like being in a Spaghetti Western :alberta:. The air conditioning is loud (and, this being Texas in August, nearly constant) it sounds like the locomotive is starting up whenever it kicks on.
In order to get a visitor badge you're required to provide a "Government issued photo ID." (RACIST!) I was tempted to give them my Amtrak badge
QuoteI met vM for dinner at Mi Cocina in downtown Fort Worth. I got a chuckle from the menu when I saw that "Carne Asada" was about $25; that would have bought you a week's worth of carne asada in Colombia (although in Fort Worth it was actual steak, in Colombia it was beef with more strings than the New York Philharmonic.) Then we went to Del Friscos where I learned Texas beers pack a wallop.
"The List" was restricted to people we had met. Scip got a solid shout out, since I believe he was the only person we have both met.
Lots of discussion of train signaling and NLP technology. We are such engineers. :P
Also, I think I left my sunglasses at MiCo's. :(
Our trainer is named Brian, he's a tall, thin black man from somewhere out in the country in East Texas :alberta:. He's something of a character. One day he decided he needed a gun; though he had never shot one before, so he goes to Cabellas and buys two nine millimeters. One was a Glock, the other a Beretta. After he got home he broke down the pistols and put it back together as they had shown him in the shop. By doing so he had accidentally chambered a round in the Glock. He then learned that the Glock doesn't require a great deal of force to squeeze the trigger as he shot the dining room cabinet. His wife was none too happy, but he did win the respect of the Yardies.
So, at the urging of his wife, he gave the Glock to his father and put the Beretta in his car. He got pulled over for something and told the officers that he had a gun in his glove compartment. They made him get out of the car, took the gun, ran the license and came back to him:
Officer: Son, why don't you have one in the chamber?
Brian: Well, I figure that if I ever have to pull it out I want to make a conscious decision that I'm going to fire it.
Officer: That's horse shit, :mad:, every time you touch your gun you've got to be ready to use it. Always keep one in the chamber.
Brian: Yes sir
I'm looking forward to going back to Florida where (and I never thought I'd be writing the following) people are relatively sane and responsible with firearms.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on August 30, 2016, 02:33:16 PM
QuoteI met vM for dinner at Mi Cocina in downtown Fort Worth. I got a chuckle from the menu when I saw that "Carne Asada" was about $25; that would have bought you a week's worth of carne asada in Colombia (although in Fort Worth it was actual steak, in Colombia it was beef with more strings than the New York Philharmonic.) Then we went to Del Friscos where I learned Texas beers pack a wallop.
"The List" was restricted to people we had met. Scip got a solid shout out, since I believe he was the only person we have both met.
Lots of discussion of train signaling and NLP technology. We are such engineers. :P
:lol: While I'm sorry I missed MiM, he might be happier having missed that meet-up.
QuoteAlso, I think I left my sunglasses at MiCo's. :(
Sorry you lost them.
I made it to Shady Oaks (at MiM's suggestion); they have incredible brisket. (I might not be much of a judge, though. The only place to get decent brisket in Detroit is the (((deli))) where the meat isn't smoked. In Melbourne pork is far and away the more common barbecue.)
I also made it to the Stockyards, which was kitschy, but still fun. I got a beer at the White Elephant Saloon and listened to some country music. (The exterior of the White Elephant Saloon was used as "CD's" in Walker, Texas Ranger. Walker's partner being the only black man in the place, ever, I think was taken from real life as well.) I got a steak at H3's there as well, which was the best steak I've had outside of Argentina.
Wait what? Is having one in the chamber irresponsible?
Quote from: lustindarkness on August 31, 2016, 04:12:24 PM
Wait what? Is having one in the chamber irresponsible?
No, the shooting up furniture part struck me as irresponsible. Having a police officer tell you to keep one chambered so you can blow people away without a moment's thought struck me as insane.
Although maybe I'm just too much of a white northerner from a big city (:( lord knows I've tried to change :(). One of the students is from Texas. He wanted to get a Glock so that he'd never accidentally leave the safety on. That also struck me as a bad idea.
I am a white Texan who has only ever shot clay pigeons and owns no fire arms :(
So actually you can maintain perfectly weenie ways here if you want :hug:
Quote from: Valmy on August 31, 2016, 09:40:57 PM
I am a white Texan who has only ever shot clay pigeons and owns no fire arms :(
You make baby Sam Houston cry. :weep:
Piss on Glock.
Quote from: Valmy on August 31, 2016, 09:40:57 PM
I am a white Texan who has only ever shot clay pigeons and owns no fire arms :(
So actually you can maintain perfectly weenie ways here if you want :hug:
I've never fired a gun at all.
Quote from: Valmy on August 31, 2016, 09:40:57 PM
I am a white Texan who has only ever shot clay pigeons and owns no fire arms :(
So actually you can maintain perfectly weenie ways here if you want :hug:
Living
la vida débil in Texas. :alberta:
There was a rumor at one time (while we were still GE) that we would be moved to Fort Worth once production had been moved from Eerie to Texas. My wife said that there was no way she'd ever move here; but I think she may have confused Dallas with Houston. Anyhow that didn't happen and now the rumor is that we'll all be moved to Rochester, NY. :(
I did go to the Reata; that was also a great recommendation, MiM. I also went to Rodeo Goat, which had a solid vote on Trip Advisor, but I thought it was disappointing. The beer list was impressive and it was one seriously cool bar, but the burgers, though good, weren't anything to write home about. I think I've hit my quota of beef for the year; it was all very good, but if I stayed in Texas I'd need a cardiologist soon.
I saw the Amon Carter museum during its extended hours on Thursday. That had a good collection of western, American and Texas folk art; probably what you'd expect from an Art Museum in Fort Worth :alberta:.
Class got done early Friday so I saw the modern art museum. The building was designed (by Tadao Ando) with enormous galleries and high ceilings; consequently most of the works are art are very big and very bad. The "High point" of this sort of museum is the Fluxus (:yuk:) gallery, which here featured a fluorescent and two large rectangles made of yarn. In another gallery there was an angled lead wall with a lead pipe leaning on it; the caption assured me that this gave the viewer a sense of wonder and danger. In another gallery there was also a film of a man shooting layups in a hoop skirt. I didn't hate everything; some of the abstract expressionism or minimalist works that I though were good especially the ones by Joan Mitchell and Dan Christensen. There was a Motherwell painting as well that, well, looked like every other Motherwell painting.
It's good to be back home after three weeks on the road; though I'm slated to go back out again in just a couple weeks (:glare:). Still, I'm not too disappointed to be heading out again as It little profits that an idle king, By this still hearth, among these barren crags...
Right so I am headed up there tommorow morning. If anybody wants to meet up I should be free after 6 PM tomorrow and Thursday.
Quote from: Valmy on September 06, 2016, 10:15:21 PM
Right so I am headed up there tommorow morning. If anybody wants to meet up I should be free after 6 PM tomorrow and Thursday.
Whereaboots? If it is actually Ft. Worth, I am unfortunately out. :( The Dallas side I could swing this evening; I will be out-of-town tomorrow.
Frisco by the IKEA :P
No problem if you are busy
:hide:
I forgot about that. I might could swing it. Must find out from the boss.
The boss doesn't want to come, but I'm available. Plenty of options up there, but I would suggest avoiding that Blue Mesa.
I bet you guys are going to eat good. :(
I am not from around here so go ahead and pick someplace that is not Blue Mesa. Anytime after 6!
I suggest The Holy Grail (http://www.holygrailpub.com/) at 1900.
Sounds great! See you then.
Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2016, 01:31:16 PM
Sounds great! See you then.
I would suggest going down to Headquarters instead of taking Preston south, FYI. There are very limited left-turn options and traffic there in the evenings can be bad.