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Title: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Maladict on May 30, 2016, 11:39:26 AM
The companion thread.

Mine:
- Nauru: I've been fascinated by the island since I was a child. Would love to go one day, even though it's a horrid place.
- Walk from Rome to Istanbul along the Viae Appia & Egnatia.
- Visit some of the Silk road cities, preferably Samarkand and Balkh.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Liep on May 30, 2016, 11:49:54 AM
Cycling the Silk Road would be the closest thing to a pilgrimage for me that I can think of. Taking a year or more out of the calendar is not easy though. :P
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Liep on May 30, 2016, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: Maladict on May 30, 2016, 11:39:26 AM
- Walk from Rome to Istanbul along the Viae Appia & Egnatia.

This sounds like a very good trip, too. I'll not that down.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Scipio on May 30, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
Holy Sepulchre
Tomb of St. Alexander Nevsky
Tomb of St. Nicholas (okay, all three)
St. Peter's Basilica
St. John Lateran
Santiago de Compostela
Patmos
Tomb of St. George
Hagia Sophia
San Vitale in Ravenna
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Phillip V on May 30, 2016, 12:26:20 PM
I want to follow the footsteps of Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: celedhring on May 30, 2016, 12:32:43 PM
Alessandra Daddario's bedroom. A true place of worship.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Maladict on May 30, 2016, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: Liep on May 30, 2016, 11:49:54 AM
Cycling the Silk Road would be the closest thing to a pilgrimage for me that I can think of. Taking a year or more out of the calendar is not easy though. :P

I forgot the cycling trip around the Mediterranean.  :Embarrass:
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on May 30, 2016, 01:44:18 PM
Mexico City, because it's where the majority of my Mexican relatives live.  I've only ever met one of them on a couple of occasions as a kid, as he was of my grandparents' generation (and he lived in a city on the Pacific coast, not in the D.F., anyways).

So it would be very special to get to meet them.  And I could simultaneously pay a Trotskyist pilgrimage to the Coyacán neighborhood, which used to be on the periphery, where Trotsky lived out his last year, alongside Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera. Mexico City is supposed to be great regardless, especially for eating and drinking, plus the famed National Museum of Anthropology with its huge collection of pre-Columbian artifacts. :drool:
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Malthus on May 30, 2016, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 30, 2016, 01:44:18 PM
Mexico City, because it's where the majority of my Mexican relatives live.  I've only ever met one of them on a couple of occasions as a kid, as he was of my grandparents' generation (and he lived in a city on the Pacific coast, not in the D.F., anyways).

So it would be very special to get to meet them.  And I could simultaneously pay a Trotskyist pilgrimage to the Coyacán neighborhood, which used to be on the periphery, where Trotsky lived out his last year, alongside Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera. Mexico City is supposed to be great regardless, especially for eating and drinking, plus the famed National Museum of Anthropology with its huge collection of pre-Columbian artifacts. :drool:

I was there a couple of years ago and it was awesome. I've been to many, many museums in my time, this was one of the best.

Also, if you go, don't miss the smaller - but still awesome - museum attached to the Templo Mayor archaeological site. While you are there, take the roof tour of the cathedral right next door (if you are not afraid of heights) - it's cheap and offers an amazing view of the city.

I really enjoyed Mexico City - for someone interested in anthropology/archaeology, it's hard to beat.

Just don't visit the Sanctuary of La Santísima Muerte. Our guidebook said something like: 'not safe for tourists after dark, or during daylight for that matter'.  :lol:
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on May 30, 2016, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 30, 2016, 01:58:13 PM
I was there a couple of years ago and it was awesome. I've been to many, many museums in my time, this was one of the best.

Also, if you go, don't miss the smaller - but still awesome - museum attached to the Templo Mayor archaeological site. While you are there, take the roof tour of the cathedral right next door (if you are not afraid of heights) - it's cheap and offers an amazing view of the city.

I really enjoyed Mexico City - for someone interested in anthropology/archaeology, it's hard to beat.

Just don't visit the Sanctuary of La Santísima Muerte. Our guidebook said something like: 'not safe for tourists after dark, or during daylight for that matter'.  :lol:

Thanks for the recommendations. :)  I'm just waiting for someone willing to make the trip with me, since travelling alone to Mexico City seems both unfun and a lot more dangerous.

I'm also intrigued by this one: The Museum of the Object of the Object. http://elmodo.mx/en/ :D

EDIT:  FWIW, I think it'll be interesting to see how Jewish-Mexicans live.  I figure the ones I'm related to must be pretty well-integrated, since the family tree shows a cousin about my age whose first name is "Adolfo" -- I don't think Adolfo-themed names have been very popular among Polish Jews or their descendants for quite a while... :lol:
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: The Brain on May 30, 2016, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 30, 2016, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 30, 2016, 01:58:13 PM
I was there a couple of years ago and it was awesome. I've been to many, many museums in my time, this was one of the best.

Also, if you go, don't miss the smaller - but still awesome - museum attached to the Templo Mayor archaeological site. While you are there, take the roof tour of the cathedral right next door (if you are not afraid of heights) - it's cheap and offers an amazing view of the city.

I really enjoyed Mexico City - for someone interested in anthropology/archaeology, it's hard to beat.

Just don't visit the Sanctuary of La Santísima Muerte. Our guidebook said something like: 'not safe for tourists after dark, or during daylight for that matter'.  :lol:

Thanks for the recommendations. :)  I'm just waiting for someone willing to make the trip with me,

:)
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: garbon on May 30, 2016, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 30, 2016, 12:26:20 PM
I want to follow the footsteps of Jesus Christ.

Unlike Kanye, you aren't a God.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on May 30, 2016, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 30, 2016, 02:09:43 PM
:)

Well that goes without saying.  I don't think we need to get me a visa for our arrival, but I'll double check.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: The Brain on May 30, 2016, 02:18:58 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 30, 2016, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 30, 2016, 02:09:43 PM
:)

Well that goes without saying.  I don't think we need to get me a visa for our arrival, but I'll double check.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Martinus on May 30, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
Montsegur, France
Rosslyn Chapel, Scotland
Boleskine House, Scotland
Tomb of Oscar Wilde, Pere Lachaise, Paris, France
Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt
Holy Sepulchre, Israel

If my secondment to Paris comes through (it is still in the air), I plan to get the first four in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Jaron on May 30, 2016, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

Enjoy your captivity.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Martinus on May 30, 2016, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Jaron on May 30, 2016, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

Enjoy your captivity.

I know - it's one of life's greatest tragedies that I cannot travel freely there at the moment.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2016, 02:45:52 PM
Cuba. I want to see it all:  the Moncada barracks, The old Presidio Modelo prison, the Granma, the lobby staircase of the Capri and the old Hilton ballroom, the camp at La Plata, the Bay of Pigs...I plowed too many goddamned credits into that revolution not to see where it all happened.

That, and the Vatican.  Would love to see how they've tricked out the home office back at Corporate.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on May 30, 2016, 03:47:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2016, 02:45:52 PM
That, and the Vatican.  Would love to see how they've tricked out the home office back at Corporate.

See if all the ashtrays and Bavarian beer taps Benedict had installed are still there.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: The Brain on May 30, 2016, 03:55:36 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2016, 02:45:52 PM
Cuba. I want to see it all:  the Moncada barracks, The old Presidio Modelo prison, the Granma, the lobby staircase of the Capri and the old Hilton ballroom, the camp at La Plata, the Bay of Pigs...I plowed too many goddamned credits into that revolution not to see where it all happened.

That, and the Vatican.  Would love to see how they've tricked out the home office back at Corporate.

You write Born To Kill on your helmet AND you wear a peace button?
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Malthus on May 30, 2016, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 30, 2016, 03:55:36 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2016, 02:45:52 PM
Cuba. I want to see it all:  the Moncada barracks, The old Presidio Modelo prison, the Granma, the lobby staircase of the Capri and the old Hilton ballroom, the camp at La Plata, the Bay of Pigs...I plowed too many goddamned credits into that revolution not to see where it all happened.

That, and the Vatican.  Would love to see how they've tricked out the home office back at Corporate.

You write Born To Kill on your helmet AND you wear a peace button?

He may have an anteater, rather than a helmet.

Though if he has a helmet, I can totally see him writing "born to kill" on it.  ;)
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Sheilbh on May 30, 2016, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
Rosslyn Chapel, Scotland
You know that mostly burned down right? :console:
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: mongers on May 30, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
For me the journey itself is usual going to be more important than the place of pilgrimage, so I might consider revisiting Canterbury Cathedral from here, but I'd need to find an interesting route there, perhaps one that in part followed old pilgrimage routes?
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: garbon on May 30, 2016, 04:58:55 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 30, 2016, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
Rosslyn Chapel, Scotland
You know that mostly burned down right? :console:

Did you mean the Boleskine House? Couldn't find much about the Chapel burning apart from that the original bits were destroyed centuries ago.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Sheilbh on May 30, 2016, 05:04:53 PM
Oops yeah. Boleskine house had a big fire last year I think.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: alfred russel on May 30, 2016, 07:58:45 PM
Reading this thread, and the other one, I'm having trouble distinguishing between a pilgrimage and a cool vacation.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Maladict on May 31, 2016, 02:11:19 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 30, 2016, 07:58:45 PM
Reading this thread, and the other one, I'm having trouble distinguishing between a pilgrimage and a cool vacation.

I'll have a go:

- the pilgrimage destination is the only focal point of the journey
- the journey and/or destination holds great meaning or significance
- travel solo or with like-minded people
- some benefit or experience is gained from the pilgrimage
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on May 31, 2016, 03:02:30 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 30, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
For me the journey itself is usual going to be more important than the place of pilgrimage, so I might consider revisiting Canterbury Cathedral from here, but I'd need to find an interesting route there, perhaps one that in part followed old pilgrimage routes?

The Powell and Pressburger film, A Canterbury Tale is interesting, a sort of WW2 update of Chaucer :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canterbury_Tale
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: mongers on May 31, 2016, 03:52:56 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 31, 2016, 03:02:30 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 30, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
For me the journey itself is usual going to be more important than the place of pilgrimage, so I might consider revisiting Canterbury Cathedral from here, but I'd need to find an interesting route there, perhaps one that in part followed old pilgrimage routes?

The Powell and Pressburger film, A Canterbury Tale is interesting, a sort of WW2 update of Chaucer :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canterbury_Tale

Thanks, I've seen snippets of that, so really should see the whole film, especially given the time and conditions when it was made.
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Monoriu on May 31, 2016, 04:03:30 AM
Quote from: Maladict on May 31, 2016, 02:11:19 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 30, 2016, 07:58:45 PM
Reading this thread, and the other one, I'm having trouble distinguishing between a pilgrimage and a cool vacation.

I'll have a go:

- the pilgrimage destination is the only focal point of the journey
- the journey and/or destination holds great meaning or significance
- travel solo or with like-minded people
- some benefit or experience is gained from the pilgrimage

So if I go to Italy for two weeks and spend a day at the Leaning Tower of Pisa, that probably doesn't count as pilgrimage.  Then I don't think I have been to a pilgrimage at all.  If I go to Japan and specifically look for anime-related sites, then it probably counts.  But I likely won't do that. 
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: Martinus on May 31, 2016, 06:39:30 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 30, 2016, 05:04:53 PM
Oops yeah. Boleskine house had a big fire last year I think.

I know. :(
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: dps on May 31, 2016, 03:45:21 PM
Yellowstone
Title: Re: What acts of pilgrimage would you like to undertake?
Post by: PDH on May 31, 2016, 07:28:16 PM
The Cave Homes of Cappadocia.
The Tepui that Angel Falls comes off of.
The place I went to as a kid that had those great malts.