That's a lot of money to pay Brock Osweiler, but the Broncos have no one at QB now.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2364853-brock-osweiler-to-sign-with-texans-latest-contract-details-comments-reaction
So the dreaded free agency period thingy has begun. Bengals were facing a possible mass exodus of free agents, but seem to be playing it smart so far. Pacman and Georgie (Iloka) are staying. No way the team could have afforded to pay #1 receiver salaries to Marvin Jones and Sanu when they have AJ Green and Eifert to throw to.
The Lions signed Marvin Jones to replace Megatron, and Jones is smartly trying to lower expectations. He's a great #2-ish receiver behind AJ Green, but we haven't really seen how he performs as a #1 receiver. I hope he does well there, especially since he's in a different division and different conference.
Sanu is a guy with a lot of weapons and I hope he gets a fat contract with a team at least outside the division (looked yesterday like the Falcons might sign him but now I'm reading that the f-ing Patriots want him).
There are other guys I'll be sad to see go, but nobody who is still on the board is unreplaceable.
For once the rest of the league is overpaying for Miami's free agents instead of the reverse. I have no idea what Jerry Reese was thinking when he threw all that money at Olivier Vernon. Vernon is now basically the same value as JJ Watt.
I'm concerned about the running back position, because Ajayi is not a bellcow. The draft could fix that.
Happy that Miami cut Miko Grimes. Unfortunately, that means they lose Brent as well. :(
Your former defensive coordinator is back in Cincy now at his old job. Have not seen him yet but hope to meet up with him soon. Part of me wonders if he should have maybe taken a year off just to get rid of some stress, but in the coaching world I guess you just don't do that.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 10, 2016, 02:17:46 AM
That's a lot of money to pay Brock Osweiler, but the Broncos have no one at QB now.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2364853-brock-osweiler-to-sign-with-texans-latest-contract-details-comments-reaction
Note to John Elway: Brian Hoyer will probably be available pretty soon. Cap friendly and a lot of experience as a starter!
:lol:
Dolphins snag CJ Anderson (for the moment). Four years, $18m. With Von Miller not under contract and no QB I doubt Denver will match.
If this goes through I will feel much better about Miller slipping away. CJ is, IMO, almost as proven as Miller but coming in at $2m/year less.
I'm a fan of Oakland's moves so far. Quite impressive in their rebuilding efforts. Cleveland? Ugh. Browns being Browns. I wonder what it is about that team/franchise/city/whatever. It's maddening. :wacko:
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Baltimore Ravens (https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal/) cornerback Tray Walker (https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28524/) has died following a motorcycle accident in Miami.
Walker's agent, Ron Butler, told various media outlets that Walker died at 5 p.m. ET less than a full day after suffering critical injuries following a motorcycle crash. The Ravens later confirmed Walker's death.
We are grieving the loss of a special young man. #RIPTrayWalker (https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIPTrayWalker?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/FNcnd9eQjT (https://t.co/FNcnd9eQjT)
— Baltimore Ravens (@Ravens) March 18, 2016 (https://twitter.com/Ravens/status/710963427540410368)
According to the police report (http://www.miamidade.gov/police/releases/PD160317102978_Traffic_Accident_with_Injuries_Update1.asp), Walker was riding a Honda dirt bike with no lights and wearing dark clothing when he hit a Ford Escape heading the opposite direction at 7:50 p.m. on Thursday. The driver of the Ford Escape stayed on the scene and helped police, and Walker was taken to Ryder Trauma Center.
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2016, 11:10:41 AM
So the dreaded free agency period thingy has begun. Bengals were facing a possible mass exodus of free agents, but seem to be playing it smart so far. Pacman and Georgie (Iloka) are staying. No way the team could have afforded to pay #1 receiver salaries to Marvin Jones and Sanu when they have AJ Green and Eifert to throw to.
The Lions signed Marvin Jones to replace Megatron, and Jones is smartly trying to lower expectations. He's a great #2-ish receiver behind AJ Green, but we haven't really seen how he performs as a #1 receiver. I hope he does well there, especially since he's in a different division and different conference.
Glad to hear Green is doing well.
Oh FFS Cleveland: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15058201/cleveland-browns-sign-robert-griffin-iii
It is hard to have much compassion for the Browns when they work so hard to bring it on themselves.
Quote from: Valmy on March 24, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
Oh FFS Cleveland: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15058201/cleveland-browns-sign-robert-griffin-iii
It is hard to have much compassion for the Browns when they work so hard to bring it on themselves.
It doesn't seem like a terrible move. Now if they intend to turn the franchise over the him, okay, I agree. But the Browns don't have a QB, they can always use a backup, and there is a reason that RGIII became the face of subway for a while.
That's why the Cleveland Browns are the Cleveland Browns, and everybody else is not.
$6 million guaranteed over 2 years for a bridge QB until Carson Wentz is ready? Seems reasonable to me.
The Eagles have guaranteed Sam Bradford and Chase Daniels a combined ~$35 million over 3 years. Good thing Chip isn't around to screw up their roster any more, huh?
I thought this was pretty good too. An extremely talented guy who pisses everything away is a pretty common story; one that is able to grab hold and turn things around before they are too late is not.
http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/25544505/honey-badger-dont-care-nothing-could-be-more-untrue-about-the-new-tyrann-mathieu
QuoteHoney Badger don't care? You don't know anything about Tyrann Mathieu
PHOENIX -- The hours of torturous rehab, including squats with 245 pounds on two surgically repaired knees -- one just fixed in early January -- could break even the toughest man.
Hell, it hurt just to watch. My own knees felt the pain as Tyrann Mathieu went through his four-hour rehab on this Wednesday in late March. It would be easy to understand if Mathieu had any hesitation to continue, the reluctance to drive himself losing out to the desire to stay home in bed with a good movie or take his kids out for ice cream.
Yet Mathieu, the Arizona Cardinals' do-everything defensive back, went through his workout like it was a warm-up for a game. With his own private music playing in his ears, even as the loudspeakers above blared club-decibel songs to the other NFL players rehabbing and working out at the Fischer Institute here in Phoenix, Mathieu hardly resembled the player whose on-field ferocity earned him the nickname of the Honey Badger in college at LSU. Calm seemed to be the approach.
It was a businesslike, structured workout that seemed at times to put Mathieu into his own little world, a zone where focus is key with little time for distractions. With a big brace protecting his recently repaired right knee, Mathieu took the 245 pounds of weights off the rack, put it on his shoulders and then went up and down with it eight times. It was one group of reps on one of several exercises this day, but the determination came through loud and clear on this painful-to-watch set.
"He gets after it," said Brett Fischer, the owner/operator of the facility who is rehabbing Mathieu and seems like a proud dad when he leads him through it. "I love working with him. He's so intense."
Mathieu heard Fischer's remarks, and looked up during a break.
"Just work," he said. "Just work."
That's his motto every single day.
Just work.
Fischer then pointed to his notepad where he jots down Mathieu's progress each day. He also had written down the date of his surgery: January 5.
"Just so I remind myself that he needs to slow down sometimes," Fischer said. "Two words sum him up here: Passionate and hungry."
****
Mathieu might be coming back from a knee injury, his second, and that's a daunting task for anybody. It's nothing compared to his biggest comeback, which is also one of the biggest in sports history: Mathieu rallied to beat himself.
Knee rehab? Big deal.
Life rehab? The greatest win of all.
As Mathieu joined some players later here during his workout, lifting his legs over some hurdles, the picture was a perfect image for his life. Going over one hurdle, there always seems to be another right behind it. This is a kid who was raised by an uncle and an aunt because his father was in the prison system for murder and his mother abandoned him. This is a kid who grew up around trouble, smoked pot for most of his life and ended up in a jail cell in Louisiana, even though he was a football star with a catchy nickname -- his own bad choices putting him there.
Then after getting a second chance with the Cardinals, who took him in the third round in the 2013 draft, Mathieu tore his left ACL in December of his rookie season. Then on his way to his first Pro Bowl last season, he tore up the other knee.
How much more can one guy take?
"These are the kinds of situations that build character and build a man," Mathieu said after his workout. "As long as I can put that in my mind and keep those things in front of me, I will be all right in the long run."
Much of who he is today was shaped by who he used to be. On his way to football stardom, becoming a college legend of sorts, his nickname becoming well known to many, he ended up kicked out of school and wound up spending 12 hours in a jail cell after being arrested for possession of marijuana in October of 2012.
It was in that cell that day, a place where he once said he contemplated suicide, that he was also taught a valuable lesson by some of the inmates, many who were shocked and angered to see one of their football heroes in a hellish place with them.
"When I walked into jail, all the inmates were disappointed at me," Mathieu said. "It was one of those reality checks for me. I had to sit in a cell by myself. If they had put me in cell with them, they would probably try and beat me up. It was a reality check for me. They loved me. But it was a simple fact the apple doesn't fall from the tree. I was one of those that was fortunate enough to make it. They felt everything I did was for them, and it was almost a spit in their face.
"Sitting in the cell, I can feel their energy. They're yelling across the room. If the guards would have opened that gate, they would have got to me. It was one of those situations where I said this is not just about me. I affect so many people. Criminals. Successful people, educated people, misfits, guys who don't have a father. I represent a lot of people. For me to take that for granted, that was the day I realized (he had to change). My birth father is in prison. My birth mother basically abandoned me. I was supposed to be raised by my grandparents, but my grandfather died. I was adopted by my uncle and aunt -- who are now basically my parents. For me, I always felt I had an excuse to smoke pot and do all sorts of things that knuckleheads do. I woke up one morning after I went to jail and said I don't want to be that person anymore. I am tired of making excuses for myself. I am tired of letting people down. Most importantly, I am tired of disrespecting myself."
****
Mathieu left Louisiana and came to Arizona to live with former LSU teammate and current Cardinals teammate Patrick Peterson. The Cardinals drafted him in the third round later that year and the two now play in the same secondary again, which is one of the league's best.
He is drug-tested regularly and has stayed clear of trouble since coming to the Cardinals. He has become a bit of a recluse of sorts. Cardinals coach Bruce Arians says it's nearly impossible to get Mathieu away from the home he shares with his wife and two sons, even for a charity golf tournament. Mathieu did attend a recent Peterson event to support his good friend. But those who were there say he kept a low profile away from most of the action.
That's who he's become.
That's who he needs to be. When I asked him how the other Honey Badger would have handled a second knee surgery and the trials and tribulations that come with it, he surprisingly had a matter of fact reply.
"I probably would have smoked so much marijuana I would forget about it all," he said. "Nowadays, that's not my escape anymore. I want to handle things head on."
The past, he says, has helped mold him into who he's become. On a recent trip back to Louisiana for the funeral of his grandmother, he was reminded of how fortunate he was to get out of there. I asked him where he'd be if he didn't leave? Would he be dead or in jail?
"My best friend that I grew up with is dead," he said. "He was murdered and most of my uncles and cousins are in and out of jail. That apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I would probably be either or."
That's why he works so hard to be a great teammate, player, husband and father to his two boys. This is his second chance at life. He's not about to let two knee injuries, even severe ones, ruin that.
To watch him attack his rehab is impressive, and you can feel the desire to provide for his kids as he goes through each painful part of it. He appears to ease through it, but he admits there have been moments when he's gotten on Fischer too much, the pain, the agony and the constant drive to be better taking a toll on his mental approach.
Yet he's there every day for long, intense sessions. There was no self-pity after the second knee injury last November in that nationally televised Sunday night game against Philadelphia. That's because there was too much work to do to get back to what he says was playing the best football of any secondary player in the league.
"I've been depressed before," he said. "I've played that card already. Having self-pity. Trying to find every kind of excuse in the world of why I shouldn't continue to go forward. This time, I didn't use that excuse. I hit the ground running. I knew what was expected of me. I knew what direction I wanted to go in. I knew what kind of player I wanted to be. This is my safe haven. I am so relaxed here. The more I stay here, the more I feel like my goals are going to come to fruition."
****
Before this knee injury, Mathieu was starring as the new-wave hybrid player in the Cardinals secondary. With offenses now so spread out, Mathieu is a revolutionary of sorts, a player who can cover the slot receiver, play safety, blitz or carry the tight end down the seam.
He is a bit of a trendsetter as teams look for players of his skill-set. Good luck with that.
"A lot of people get stuck as a cornerback or a safety," Mathieu said. "They want to be defined by one particular position. For me, 'Coach, please don't define me as one particular position. I am smart enough play every position on the field and I am tough enough to play any position on the field."
OK, so maybe not defensive line. But he has lined up in almost every spot on the back end. That's talent. It's also value, which is why his upcoming contract negotiation will be interesting to watch.
He's entering the final year of his rookie contract, and without the knee injury last year he probably already has put pen to new contract. Instead the knee injury has slowed him getting what can be described as generational money on a new deal, the kind he can hand down to his kids and grandkids.
Mathieu said he would love to stay in Arizona, but he also understands that the negotiation might be tricky with him coming off two knee surgeries. The Cardinals love him. They always say so, especially Arians. The Valley of the Sun has adopted him as a favorite son, and he's a great teammate. So you would expect something to get done.
"They have concerns, which is understandable," Mathieu said. "I've had two knee surgeries. At the same time, they know who I am as a teammate, as a football player, what I mean to the community and what I can do on the football field. The easiest thing is to pay me as a safety. But if Pat's guy goes down, I have to check Pat's guy. For me, it's about me being compensated for everything I do.
"As I walked off the field in Philadelphia, it was like, 'Damn, my whole purpose is to take care of my family.' I want my sons to have the best life. I don't want them to do the things that I did. It was gut-wrenching because it wasn't just about football. It was about me providing my family a life they've never seen before. But also being out there with my teammates. It was different without me."
****
Mathieu recently changed his diet to help his rehab and improvement on the field, like Peterson did last year for health reasons -- which helped him have his best season. Mathieu has cut out sugars and gone to a mostly organic and gluten-free diet. The result was that he dropped down to 175 pounds recently. This former candy addict -- anything and everything was consumed, he says -- feels better than ever. He is currently in the process of adding weight and would like to play at 190 in 2016.
"I can't tell you how much better I feel every day," Mathieu said. "I just had surgery two months ago and I am able to do five- and six-hour workouts. I don't run home and try and take a nap. I run home and do some sit-ups. Try to get yoga. I am not tired. I am in such a great place. I am going to be better than I was. In order for me to be who I want to be I have to sacrifice something. I always hear J.J. Watt say that. And he's probably the best player in the game right now -- defensively. He always talks about sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice. I take heed to that."
Watt, a notorious worker, would be proud if he could watch Mathieu rehab. From running on a treadmill suspended by a harness, to squatting and doing a variety of other things, he attacks it with vigor. The next big step, according to Fischer, will be lateral cutting. Then it's defensive back drills. Then it's covering receivers, which will likely happen in training camp.
The target date for Mathieu's return is opening day of the regular season. He wants to be full go for that game.
Will he make it? "Absolutely, without a doubt," he said.
After the comebacks he's already been through, especially winning in the game of life after falling behind by two scores, who the heck will doubt him?
Deflate-gate is back. :mad:
Brady's 4-game suspension upheld at the Court of Appeal:
http://www.tsn.ca/appeals-court-restores-brady-s-deflategate-suspension-1.477944
Note that the court did NOT opine on whether or not Brady deserved to be suspended, only on whether or not Goodell had the power under the collective bargaining agreement to impose such a suspension.
Now if only Brady could be stuffed into that prison from Superman II....
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 25, 2016, 07:11:40 PM
Now if only Brady could be stuffed into that prison from Superman II....
Get him to say his name backwards.
Even if it's long odds, what has Brady got to lose by appealing? He isn't getting any younger, if he can put off the suspension another year or two by taking it to the supreme court, it could give him another shot or two at gaining a bye in the playoffs.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/25/tom-brady-deflategate-suspension-nfl-appeal-roger-goodell
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Brady's remaining options and their relationship to the dissenting opinion
It's not over for Brady, but his legal team faces very long odds. First, the NFLPA has 14 days to petition the three-judge panel for a rehearing. Unfortunately for Brady, this petition will almost certainly be rejected, since two of the three judges just ruled decisively against Brady.
Second, the NFLPA can petition for a rehearing en banc, in which all 13 of the active judges on the Second Circuit court of appeals plus Judge Parker (who is a senior status judge but eligible under court rules to participate in a rehearing because he was on the three-judge panel) would hear a new appeal. The 13 active judges would be eligible to vote on whether to grant a rehearing en banc. A decision on whether to grant a rehearing en banc would likely be issued long before the 2016 regular kicks off in September, but if not, Brady's suspension would be stayed (postponed) until that vote occurs. If a majority of the 13 judges agree to grant a rehearing, the rehearing would be heard months from that point. Presumably, Brady's pending suspension would be postponed until an accompanying ruling, which would most likely be issued in 2017.
Brady's odds for obtaining a rehearing en banc are not good. Available data indicates the Second Circuit grants rehearings en banc less than 1% of the time. But the odds might be higher for Brady since the decision was split 2–1, and since it was the Second Circuit's Chief Judge, Robert Katzmann, who dissented in Brady's favor. It's possible other judges on the Second Circuit will accord extra deference to the chief judge and perhaps find his reasoning to be persuasive.
In his nine-page dissent, Judge Katzmann expressed being "troubled" by Goodell's conduct as the arbitrator. Judge Katzmann stressed that the four-game suspension was "unprecedented" and he chided Goodell for adopting a "shifting rationale for Brady's discipline." Like Judge Berman, Judge Katzman found that Goodell's decision embodied "his own brand of industrial justice."
In building his dissenting opinion, Judge Katzmann reasoned that Goodell clearly violated the law in basing his decision "on misconduct different from that originally charged." Judge Katzmann highlighted how Brady was initially accused by Goodell of being "generally aware" of Jim McNally and John Jastremski allegedly deflating footballs, whereas Goodell—for reasons that were never made clear—later reasoned that Brady was something of a conspiratorial ring leader whereby he "knew about, approved of, consented to, and provided inducements." Judge Katzmann found this change to be material and grounds for vacating the suspension.
Judge Katzmann also found the NFL's portrayal of Brady's alleged gift-giving to McNally and Jastremski to be prejudicial to Brady. As Judge Katzmann writes, Brady did not know prior to the appeal that Goodell would make Brady's alleged gifts to locker room attendants a central part of his analysis. "Had the Commissioner confined himself to the misconduct originally charged," Judge Katzmann writes, "he may have been persuaded to decrease the punishment initially handed down."
Judge Katzmann also took issue with Goodell failing to mention, let alone explain, "a highly analogous penalty": the fact that the league has only punished players who are caught using stickum on their gloves with fines. Judge Katzmann was particularly bothered by the fact that Goodell would inexplicably omit any reference to stickum penalties when, "the League's justification for prohibiting stickum—that it 'affects the integrity of the competition and can give a team an unfair advantage,' —is nearly identical to the Commissioner's explanation for what he found problematic about the deflation—that it 'reflects an improper effort to secure a competitive advantage in, and threatens the integrity of, the game.' "
Brady and NFLPA attorneys Jeffrey Kessler and David Greenspan must hope that other judges on the Second Circuit concur with Judge Katzmann's points. If, however, Brady fails to obtain a rehearing or a rehearing en banc, he would likely petition for a stay of his suspension while he appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court. As I wrote earlier in this process, a stay reflects a court order preventing the NFL from carrying out its punishment—a four-game suspension—until the appeals process is complete. Brady would argue that he would suffer irreparable harm in the absence of a stay. He would insist that once he serves a four-game suspension, he could never play those games again. For all practical purposes, Brady's case becomes moot once he serves the suspension.
It is very unlikely the Supreme Court would review this case. The Court normally reviews only about 1% of petitions, and the cases the Court selects tend to be of paramount importance—not whether a football player sits out four games due to the extremely unusual system of dispute resolution. The justices will likely reason that the Brady case is too fact-specific, involving a scenario unlikely to arise in other labor-management disputes.
That said, Brady could benefit if the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eight Circuit were to rule in favor of Adrian Peterson. A decision in the Peterson case is expected any day now. In February 2015, U.S. District Judge David Doty ruled in favor of Peterson, who was punished under a new domestic violence policy for conduct that took place during a previous policy. If the Eighth Circuit affirms Judge Doty's ruling in the face of the NFL's appeal, it could present a conflict between the Eighth Circuit and the Second Circuit on how the NFL interprets Article 46 in resolving disciplinary matters and more specifically how issues of notice and consistency are evaluated. So-called "circuit splits" increase the likelihood that the Supreme Court will agree to hear a case. While the Brady and Peterson cases are different in many ways, Peterson winning would clearly be good news for Brady's team if it were to seek review by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Quote from: Berkut on April 25, 2016, 07:06:39 PM
Note that the court did NOT opine on whether or not Brady deserved to be suspended, only on whether or not Goodell had the power under the collective bargaining agreement to impose such a suspension.
Why would they have opined on that? None of the court cases stemming from this had anything to do with the facts of the alleged equipment violation, they were always about whether the league acted properly according to the CBA and other labor laws.
The draft is on btw. Or, well, I guess it's almost over for tonight or something. Not really paying attention. The Texans picked some super fast WR with stone hands, so that's fun.
E: Will Fuller. One of Seedy's Domers.
Primetime NFL Draft sucks.
Gotta give kudos to whoever fucked over Laremy Tunsil, though. That was a nuclear detonation of biblical proportions: and if that was a chick, she out-crazied Left Eye, and will go down in history. :lol:
And then denying an exchange of cash between him and his coach, then said it happened, then ushered off the stage. Kid's a dumpster fire. He'll have Ole Miss on probation by noon tomorrow. :lol:
:lol: Yeah that was a helluva thing. RIGHT before draft time and someone just wrecks his shit. I didn't know about the money thing though until you mentioned it :lmfao: what the hell
That was the highlight of the draft for me. Good stuff :thumbsup:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2016, 10:32:53 PM
Gotta give kudos to whoever fucked over Laremy Tunsil, though.
My guess: Ryan Tannehill.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2016, 10:32:53 PMAnd then denying an exchange of cash between him and his coach, then said it happened, then ushered off the stage. Kid's a dumpster fire. He'll have Ole Miss on probation by noon tomorrow. :lol:
Fuck the NCAA and their hypocritical money rules. Fuck them with a rusty 1" rebar. Apparently his mom needed money to pay rent and utilities and his coach helped him out.
Also, the assault/domestic violence charge that got thrown out was him defending his mom from his step-dad. This kid is cleaner than Ray-Ray.
oooooh
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on April 29, 2016, 02:04:46 PM
Apparently his mom needed money to pay rent and utilities and his coach helped him out.
Sure, sure. Also his rent needed to be paid. And the dude he was texting was wondering why the agreed upon number "keeps changing" and was talking about how he has no way to handle surprise amounts. But yeah, just that one time thing for moms rent and light bill. :D
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E: Texts here.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 29, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
Sure, sure. Also his rent needed to be paid. And the dude he was texting was wondering why the agreed upon number "keeps changing" and was talking about how he has no way to handle surprise amounts. But yeah, just that one time thing for moms rent and light bill. :D
I never said it was one time or that he and the coach didn't know this was running afoul of the NCAA. :P
Also, fuck the NCAA. And fuck the Jets.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on April 29, 2016, 02:15:35 PM
I never said it was one time or that he and the coach didn't know this was running afoul of the NCAA. :P
Also, fuck the NCAA. And fuck the Jets.
:D
E: I didn't see him get picked. How fast were the Dolphins on that? THE DOLPHINS ARE ON THE CL-THE DOLPHINS HAVE MADE THEIR SELECTION
E2: Tunsil won't be at the Dolphins press conference today because of an "allergic reaction." Alrighty.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 29, 2016, 02:16:40 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on April 29, 2016, 02:15:35 PM
I never said it was one time or that he and the coach didn't know this was running afoul of the NCAA. :P
Also, fuck the NCAA. And fuck the Jets.
:D
E: I didn't see him get picked. How fast were the Dolphins on that? THE DOLPHINS ARE ON THE CL-THE DOLPHINS HAVE MADE THEIR SELECTION
I think they made up their minds with about two minutes left. I think there was some hesitation because of the Dion Jordan fiasco and the uncertainty over how far Tunsil would actually fall.
Ah ok. I was wondering why Moldy was suddenly carrying a torch for Ole Miss :lol:
Quote from: Valmy on April 29, 2016, 02:49:00 PM
Ah ok. I was wondering why Moldy was suddenly carrying a torch for Ole Miss :lol:
:lol: Too funny, right?
...With the thirteenth pick of the 2016 NFL Draft SHIT JUST GOT REAL
Cool the Texans got a Domer OL Nick Martin and now just picked up Braxton Miller in the 3rd.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tarvaris-jackson-pulls-gun-on-wife-who-taunts-him-about-nfl-career-231052079.html
QuoteTarvaris Jackson pulls gun on wife who taunts him about NFL career
Tarvaris Jackson, a longtime NFL quarterback with the Minnesota Vikings and Seattle Seahawks who is currently a free agent, was arrested after he allegedly pulled a gun on his wife, according to Chris Hush of WESH in Orlando.
Hesh reported the news in a series of tweets, citing the police report that he also tweeted. Hesh said an intoxicated Jackson allegedly loaded a gun, pointed it at his wife and said "I'll kill you."
According to Hesh's tweets, Jackson's wife said, "You better be accurate (because) you ain't accurate on the field."
Jackson, who was in Kissimmee, Fla. visiting family, was grabbed by a witness to stop him from shooting, Hesh reported. The police report, which was cited by Hesh, said the victim grabbed a kitchen knife and a clothing iron for protection. The Osceola County County Corrections website said Jackson was booked Friday on charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
Jackson, who is 33, played in four games with the Seahawks last season. He spent five seasons before his time in Seattle with the Vikings. He has 39 touchdowns and 35 interceptions in 10 NFL seasons.
:lol:
Damn that's ice cold. :lol:
Oh, that's priceless.
Tony Eason can sleep a bit more soundly tonight. RIP Buddy Ryan.
So apparently we're not doing video on the Surface tablets this year. Failed field testing. I'm not surprised it failed, just that they recognized the results :ph34r: So we're back to still images and paper prints as backup.
Also, I'm not going to London. They're sending DV Sport employees instead :ultra:
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 09:58:18 AM
Tony Eason can sleep a bit more soundly tonight. RIP Buddy Ryan.
RIP Buddy. Not only was he an enormous sports icon in Philly, but he was also my neighbor in Kentucky. Lived just up the road. :(
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2016, 10:51:34 AM
So apparently we're not doing video on the Surface tablets this year. Failed field testing. I'm not surprised it failed, just that they recognized the results :ph34r: So we're back to still images and paper prints as backup.
Also, I'm not going to London. They're sending DV Sport employees instead :ultra:
Awww man that would have been an awesome Languish meet-up.
Appeals court denied Bradys en banc review request.
Next and last option is the Supreme Court - big hail mary.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 13, 2016, 12:42:56 PM
Appeals court denied Bradys en banc review request.
Next and last option is the Supreme Court - big hail mary.
Oh yeah I am sure the Supreme Court wants to hear that case.
Yeah seems kinda frivolous, but with the circus the whole thing has been, might as well at this point. ESPN would surely appreciate it.
Quote from: Caliga on June 28, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 09:58:18 AM
Tony Eason can sleep a bit more soundly tonight. RIP Buddy Ryan.
RIP Buddy. Not only was he an enormous sports icon in Philly, but he was also my neighbor in Kentucky. Lived just up the road. :(
I take it from the frowny face that he wasn't as big a jackass as a neighbor as he seemed like watching him coach on TV.
Don't get me wrong, I certainly didn't wish death on him, and I had a lot of respect for him as a DC, but as a head coach I thought he was kind of pathetic, and I didn't much like his public persona.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 13, 2016, 12:42:56 PM
Appeals court denied Bradys en banc review request.
Next and last option is the Supreme Court - big hail mary.
I was somewhat surprised. I know the Second Circuit likes employers, but I had thought that they would have more concern for maintaining the validity of arbitration to just say, "whelp, that arbitration sucks, but the letter of the agreement is all important and the spirit not significant at all."
The NFLPA should be ashamed they ever signed such a bullshit CBA, so I guess it is really their fault. I think it will be hard for the owners to get much disciplinary authority in the next CBA, now that the players have seen what a commissioner can do with it.
What will the players be willing to give up to get that though?
Quote from: sbr on July 13, 2016, 08:43:48 PM
What will the players be willing to give up to get that though?
I don't know that they will have to give anything up in any sort of tit for tat.
I am helping coach my kid's football team this year. New Ohio law limits us to 30 minutes of contact per practice and 60 minutes total per week. I guess they'll have to spend that extra time running :menace:
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2016, 09:18:02 AM
I am helping coach my kid's football team this year. New Ohio law limits us to 30 minutes of contact per practice and 60 minutes total per week. I guess they'll have to spend that extra time running :menace:
Don't be that asshole coach.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 14, 2016, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2016, 09:18:02 AM
I am helping coach my kid's football team this year. New Ohio law limits us to 30 minutes of contact per practice and 60 minutes total per week. I guess they'll have to spend that extra time running :menace:
Don't be that asshole coach.
Asshole coaches win. Nobody said how easy a Vince Lombardi practice was.
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 14, 2016, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2016, 09:18:02 AM
I am helping coach my kid's football team this year. New Ohio law limits us to 30 minutes of contact per practice and 60 minutes total per week. I guess they'll have to spend that extra time running :menace:
Don't be that asshole coach.
Asshole coaches win. Nobody said how easy a Vince Lombardi practice was.
Win? Everybody gets a trophy.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 14, 2016, 11:00:20 AM
Win? Everybody gets a trophy.
Yes but Spicey's kids trophies will be covered with their sweat and blood :P
Denny Green died today/last night. 67 years old. :(
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/17124739/dennis-green-former-minnesota-vikings-arizona-cardinals-coach-dies-age-67
I was very sad to see that. I always thought he was a great guy. 67 is too young to go.
That's a damned shame. Really liked him.
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Cancer sucks (Chris Mortensen) :(
Also the debacle from last night. :rolleyes:
You guys ready for LFFL 2016, draft is this Sunday!
Yeah, you can always tell when the Ravens training camp has begun; start seeing the procession of incredibly high-end cars in the morning on the way to work, Aston Martins, Bentleys, tricked-out trucks. derspeiss knows what I'm talking about.
When you see a vehicle and the only thing you recognize on it is the Mercedes-Benz logo, you know it's gotta be fucking expensive. Gotta be out of their goddamned minds, driving shit that isn't even for sale in North America in this demolition derby of a bullshit city.
Quote from: Alcibiades on August 08, 2016, 11:36:34 AM
Also the debacle from last night. :rolleyes:
That's just the NFL not taking control of the situation, and the HOF stadium people dropping the ball on their own facility. If that game were held in a team's stadium as opposed to a "neutral" field, that sod would've been replaced between Friday night's redneck shitkicker concert and the game on Sunday night. Teams do that shit all the time in the preseason, it would not have been a problem in a 48 hour window. And the whole paint thing would've been a non-issue.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 08, 2016, 12:02:41 PM
You guys ready for LFFL 2016, draft is this Sunday!
sadly I am forced to auto draft as will be filming in remote Alaskan village couple hundred miles from Wi-Fi.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2016, 06:47:33 PM
Yeah, you can always tell when the Ravens training camp has begun; start seeing the procession of incredibly high-end cars in the morning on the way to work, Aston Martins, Bentleys, tricked-out trucks. derspeiss knows what I'm talking about.
When you see a vehicle and the only thing you recognize on it is the Mercedes-Benz logo, you know it's gotta be fucking expensive. Gotta be out of their goddamned minds, driving shit that isn't even for sale in North America in this demolition derby of a bullshit city.
Here it's about 90% trucks these days. Coaches, players... shit I'm half convinced to get one.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2016, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on August 08, 2016, 11:36:34 AM
Also the debacle from last night. :rolleyes:
That's just the NFL not taking control of the situation, and the HOF stadium people dropping the ball on their own facility. If that game were held in a team's stadium as opposed to a "neutral" field, that sod would've been replaced between Friday night's redneck shitkicker concert and the game on Sunday night. Teams do that shit all the time in the preseason, it would not have been a problem in a 48 hour window. And the whole paint thing would've been a non-issue.
I wonder how many games Brady is going to get suspended for because of this.
Quote from: grumbler on August 09, 2016, 01:03:39 PM
I wonder how many games Brady is going to get suspended for because of this.
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Some disturbing parallels to the trump campaign.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/by-staying-silent-roger-goodell-and-the-nfl-won.html
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September 4, 2016 8:00 a.m.
By Staying Silent, Roger Goodell and the NFL Have Come Out on Top
By Will Leitch
In July, presidential candidate and Home Alone 2 star Donald Trump announced that he was displeased by the scheduling of the 2016 debates with Hillary Clinton. Specifically, Trump said, "I'll tell you what I don't like: It's against two NFL games. I got a letter from the NFL saying, 'This is ridiculous.' " The NFL immediately noted that it had sent no such letter — while admitting, "We obviously prefer the debates on a different night than scheduled games" — and Trump's maneuver was widely seen as an attempt to either maximize his leverage on debate rules or get out of debating altogether. (We're almost to November, people. Hang in there.)
Perhaps most noteworthy, however, was that few questioned Trump's complaint: that scheduling a debate opposite an NFL game was a really bad idea, like putting one on Christmas or something. Would Trump have argued that a debate opposite the final episode of Breaking Bad be scrubbed? Or the night of the Grammys? Of course not. Because when you're talking about America — particularly the sort of America Trump's talking about — you're talking about the NFL. Four of the top-ten-rated shows on network television in 2014–15 were NFL-related; the seven most-watched U.S. television broadcasts of all time are the last seven Super Bowls. Which poses the question: Hey, I thought football was dying?
Football's supposed death knell has been ringing for years now. Malcolm Gladwell compared football to dogfighting in 2009; in 2012, Jets linebacker Bart Scott, considered one of the biggest, baddest men in the NFL, told a reporter, "I don't want my son to play football," sounding like a coal miner who wanted a better life for his kids. He was far from alone, with Hall of Famers past and future like Brett Favre, Kurt Warner, Troy Aikman, RNC speaker Fran Tarkenton, and Adrian Peterson all joining in, saying they'd never let their kids play. (Peterson missed most of a season for beating his son with a switch, so you know the man knows from safety.) Fox broadcaster Terry Bradshaw said he imagined football would be less popular than soccer "in the next decade." The pile-on was total, assisted by the NFL's ham-fisted attempts to quell the existential threat to the game, including commissioning a National Institutes of Health study on chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE, but then pulling funding when it began to look like the study wasn't going to lean in the NFL's direction. This time last year, Will Smith, perhaps the biggest movie star in the world, was starring in Concussion, a big-budget Hollywood Oscar hopeful in which the Fresh Prince screamed, "Tell the truth!" at fictionalized NFL executives and physicians who were trying to cover up the fact that their game kills its players.
The film flopped. Nobody cared. Television ratings for 2015 games were up from 2014, and so on. The American public has listened to all the arguments about the immorality and dangers of football, and they have responded by ... watching more football. I'm sorry, Mr. Bradshaw, but however scary CTE makes football seem, I'm not sure soccer's gonna catch up.
Story continued below
The PR gauntlet the NFL has survived wasn't just about concussions. The league has stared down an extraordinary number of PR nightmares over the past few years, almost all of its own making. Peterson's child-abuse scandal? The gruesome Ray Rice domestic-violence saga? Deflategate? The unprecedented public antipathy toward commissioner Roger Goodell? The murder-suicide involving Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher, a player who, shortly after killing his girlfriend, shot himself on team property in front of his coach? The piddling settlement agreed upon for players suing for medical benefits that was considered so unfair that a court threw it out? The NFL pancake-blocked every single one of these issues like Hall of Famer Mike Webster on a rollout pitch. (David Morse played Webster in Concussion.) These stories would have been crippling for any other organization, but the NFL just bulldozed right through them. Commissioner Goodell, a man so mocked that President Obama said he couldn't believe how much money he makes, not only survived the Deflategate scandal but earned more than $31 million last year. That's his lowest salary since 2011, and it's more than the Cleveland Cavaliers paid LeBron James last year. Frankly, Goodell deserves it, no matter how imperious and autocratic and hypocritical he can seem. He's making billions for the only bosses who count: the owners of the 32 NFL teams.
How did he manage this? Think of Roy Cohn's advice to a young Donald Trump: "Tell them to go to hell." The NFL never really admitted to any failings, never gave ground, and never stopped charging straight ahead on any of these issues. The NBA and MLB both have new commissioners who are media-friendly, telegenic, and available; they court the press and receive positive coverage. But Goodell and the NFL have taken the Cohn route: Cede nothing and floor it. When there was blood in the water, the NFL simply said, "There is no blood, and there is no water," and counted on members of the American public to side with the game they love rather than the press that was telling them there was something wrong with them for loving it.
It reminds one of former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue's argument that concussions were a "journalist issue." He was derided for the statement, but its strategic wisdom seems clearer every year: The press can call out the NFL all it wants, but until people stop watching football, it won't make a difference. It points to a disconcerting emergency PR strategy that seems more and more common, and effective far beyond the world of professional sports: Just pretend there is no emergency, rely on the public's distrust of the press, and wait for the media to punch itself out. One lesson of the NFL's experience is that probably more of what were once considered PR disasters are ultimately "journalist issues," more than any journalist would comfortably admit; if you can manage to grin and bear it through a first wave of outrage, chances are you can survive. Fans and customers, in a social-media era, can easily swim around media directives and pick and choose what they want. What they want, in this case, is football.
In fact, this preseason, it has been difficult to miss, considering the emotional temperature of the last few years, the near-total lack of "I Can't Watch the NFL Anymore" hot-takes that are always populating Facebook feeds this time of year. It was briefly rather in vogue for a certain type of sportswriter (me, for one) to say that football was getting too morally corrupt to follow any longer, but turn on your television right now and, within a matter of minutes, you'll get a commercial from either the NFL or one of its broadcasting partners, a house ad even, congratulating you on making it through the long, football-less offseason with the line "Back to Football." There is no humility here. There is just a celebration. The message is clear: It's okay to love football without apology again.
Now, this doesn't necessarily mean that Americans want their kids to play it; a Bloomberg study in late 2014 showed that 62 percent of families making more than $100,000 do not want their children to play football, and it wouldn't be surprising to learn that that percentage has risen since then. But there's a big difference between not wanting your kids to play football and not wanting to watch football. They're obviously still watching. In fact, more of them are. For the wealthy — that is to say, the decision-makers — in this country, it turns the NFL into something like the military. They'd rather their kids not take part, but they'd happily support your kids' doing so. As it turns out, Donald Trump and the NFL might have a lot more than just some scheduling conflicts in common after all.
*This article appears in the September 5, 2016 issue of New York Magazine.
QuoteNow, this doesn't necessarily mean that Americans want their kids to play it; a Bloomberg study in late 2014 showed that 62 percent of families making more than $100,000 do not want their children to play football, and it wouldn't be surprising to learn that that percentage has risen since then. But there's a big difference between not wanting your kids to play football and not wanting to watch football. They're obviously still watching. In fact, more of them are. For the wealthy — that is to say, the decision-makers — in this country, it turns the NFL into something like the military. They'd rather their kids not take part, but they'd happily support your kids' doing so.
The NCAA and the NFL isn't going anywhere, that's for sure. What will happen is that you will see increasing amount of kids who can play other sports forgo football, while football will continue to be the only way out for athletes from poorer, less fortunate backgrounds--even more than it is now. One day, that'll be all who'll be left playing.
I'm not a huge fan of my son playing pee wee football. Especially with some of the red faced meathead coaches telling the kids to lower their heads into the tackles. Already had some altercations with the red faced assholes.
If you knew what's good for him, you would have scheduled his Tommy John surgery by now.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 05, 2016, 09:47:19 PM
I'm not a huge fan of my son playing pee wee football. Especially with some of the red faced meathead coaches telling the kids to lower their heads into the tackles. Already had some altercations with the red faced assholes.
Youth football is the worst.
At least in school you have coaches who are getting paid and understand that they have to coach within the standards defined by the state sports authorities, whether they like it or not.
"Keep your head up, aim at the chest" is the mantra. It doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not, if you want to coach high school football in New York, you better be teaching that.
Youth parent coaches. Plenty of them are fine of course, but the moderately sized fraction who think the game is all about testosterone (mostly their own) and "teaching these boys to be men! Hoo-ahh! Hit him harder!" just are not going to get it. The safety and injury prevention classes they might be forced to take is just "whining over controlling parents who won't let the boys grow up".
I am a little bummed Jake never played football...but not that much.