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Title: George Martin dead
Post by: Solmyr on March 09, 2016, 06:34:12 AM
[spoiler]Luckily, not the one you were thinking of:[/spoiler]

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35761464
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 09, 2016, 06:44:34 AM
I was like 75% sure it was something like this when I opened the thread.

RIP dude.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: grumbler on March 09, 2016, 07:12:00 AM
I wonder if anyone really reads the name "George Martin" and thinks that it refers to George RR Martin.  After all, GRRM added his initials to his professional name to distinguish himself from the more famous (at the time) George Martin, and has unfailingly used the initials for professional purposes ever since.

I certainly didn't think of GRRM when I heard this news this morning.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Duque de Bragança on March 09, 2016, 07:46:26 AM
My first thought: "So stereo did win after all".  :P    :Embarrass:

RIP
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 09, 2016, 07:12:00 AM
I wonder if anyone really reads the name "George Martin" and thinks that it refers to George RR Martin.  After all, GRRM added his initials to his professional name to distinguish himself from the more famous (at the time) George Martin, and has unfailingly used the initials for professional purposes ever since.

I certainly didn't think of GRRM when I heard this news this morning.

I think that many more people heard of GRRM than of the guy who died, especially among the younger generations.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: garbon on March 09, 2016, 08:49:13 AM
I did but thought it couldn't really be about him because RR was mentioned in name. I'm not sure I could provide many facts regarding the George Martin this thread is actually about. -_-
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: grumbler on March 09, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 09, 2016, 07:12:00 AM
I wonder if anyone really reads the name "George Martin" and thinks that it refers to George RR Martin.  After all, GRRM added his initials to his professional name to distinguish himself from the more famous (at the time) George Martin, and has unfailingly used the initials for professional purposes ever since.

I certainly didn't think of GRRM when I heard this news this morning.

I think that many more people heard of GRRM than of the guy who died, especially among the younger generations.

Exactly my point.  And they have always known him as "George RR Martin," not "George Martin."  Their response to "George Martin dead" is like mine:  "Who is George Martin, and why do i care that he died?" not [spoiler]"OMG, George RR Martin is dead!"[/spoiler]
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 08:54:27 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 09, 2016, 08:49:13 AM
I did but thought it couldn't really be about him because RR was mentioned in name. I'm not sure I could provide many facts regarding the George Martin this thread is actually about. -_-

Same, I don't think I have ever heard (and if I did, I forgot) about the George Martin who died before this morning - the headlines of his death I saw this morning already mentioned that he is not THE George RR Martin of Game of Thrones fame, so that's probaly why I didn't think the Mountain that Writes died.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 08:55:42 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 09, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 09, 2016, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 09, 2016, 07:12:00 AM
I wonder if anyone really reads the name "George Martin" and thinks that it refers to George RR Martin.  After all, GRRM added his initials to his professional name to distinguish himself from the more famous (at the time) George Martin, and has unfailingly used the initials for professional purposes ever since.

I certainly didn't think of GRRM when I heard this news this morning.

I think that many more people heard of GRRM than of the guy who died, especially among the younger generations.

Exactly my point.  And they have always known him as "George RR Martin," not "George Martin."  Their response to "George Martin dead" is like mine:  "Who is George Martin, and why do i care that he died?" not [spoiler]"OMG, George RR Martin is dead!"[/spoiler]

Oh right, I see your point. Well, yeah true, but I guess there may be people who thought that because they have a loose idea who GRRM is too. :P

I wonder if anyone thought "Oh, it's that gay guy from Wham who died".
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 09, 2016, 09:49:46 AM
He lives la Vida loca no more.  :(
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Josephus on March 09, 2016, 10:15:57 AM
Never imagined for a second it was GRRM. but I'm old
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: The Minsky Moment on March 09, 2016, 10:23:55 AM
And yet Phil Spector still lives.  Doesn't seem fair.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: PDH on March 09, 2016, 08:08:23 PM
RIP.  Perfect person at the perfect time to help with the magic.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Norgy on March 10, 2016, 03:10:50 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 09, 2016, 10:23:55 AM
And yet Phil Spector still lives.  Doesn't seem fair.

Indeed.

Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Jaron on March 10, 2016, 03:46:09 AM
WTF Phil Spector invented the wall of sound!
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: garbon on March 10, 2016, 03:55:37 AM
Age probably has played a role in those differing outcomes.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Josquius on March 10, 2016, 04:04:20 AM
Even though I saw this news elsewhere and didn't for a second think it meant the fat man, for some reason seeing this thread on languish made that disappear from my mind and my heart sink in my chest as I couldn't think of anyone else but GRRM.


A thought that has just come to me:
An awful lot of famous people seem to be dying lately.
Could this be the shape of things to come?
Consider: the age of the celebrity and omnipresent media only really began in the 60s. It just so happens that now we're getting to the time when people who were in their 20s and 30s in the 60s are at that age where the odds are against their continued existence.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 10, 2016, 04:42:21 AM
The older you get, the more of these you'll recognize.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Jaron on March 10, 2016, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 10, 2016, 04:42:21 AM
The older you get, the more of these you'll recognize.

Yap.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: garbon on March 10, 2016, 11:49:40 AM
Until you hit the point where you start to recognize no one. :(
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: The Brain on March 10, 2016, 02:56:54 PM
I recognize no earthly authority. :(
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 11, 2016, 04:18:42 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 10, 2016, 11:49:40 AM
Until you hit the point where you start to recognize no one. :(

Unlikely, unless you either have some sort of dementia or stop consuming media at a fairly young age.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: celedhring on March 11, 2016, 04:26:31 AM
People that were famous in our childhoods/20s are getting near "drop dead ages", and those are more likely to have had an impact on us, and thus we recognize those deaths.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Josquius on March 11, 2016, 04:47:22 AM
I really don't think it's just that. I think there are more celebrities from later decades.  It's an exponential growth.
Before the 60s it was mostly just movie stars and the occasional musician.
But from then on you have popular music of various sorts and tv too.
We just live in a much more media focused celebrity obsessed world now than several decades ago

The more omnipresent news today will help too
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Liep on March 11, 2016, 05:06:54 AM
When the last baby boomer hero is dead all we're left with is Kanye West.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Capetan Mihali on March 11, 2016, 06:06:49 AM
Quote from: Jaron on March 10, 2016, 03:46:09 AM
WTF Phil Spector invented the wall of sound!

Indeed. :glare:  JM and Norgy are dead to me.  Or at least I'd smack them around a bit before letting them back in my good graces. :hug: :ronnie:
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Norgy on March 11, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
Pity. I think only JM is into punishment. He is an American lawyer, well-read and educated.

Me, I'd just shiv you.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: grumbler on March 11, 2016, 07:05:36 AM
Who is JM?
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Capetan Mihali on March 11, 2016, 07:20:52 AM
JMMRobinson. :sleep:
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Capetan Mihali on March 11, 2016, 07:27:28 AM
Quote from: Norgy on March 11, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
Me, I'd just shiv you.

Shiv me, and you shiv one man.  You shiv one weak mortal man, prematurely soft in the mid-section, albeit in slightly better condition than Calif. Prisoner #1234567 Philip Spector, whom I'm sure more skilled shiv operators than you have already aimed for. 

But it's like Fidel's exploding cigar.  Shiv me, shiv Phil, shiv Khrushchev, enjoy a moment of glory. But shiv the Wall Of Sound, well, then you're really somebody, cause that's something.  That's something.
Title: Re: George Martin dead
Post by: Siege on March 14, 2016, 02:33:46 PM
GRRM died?
But, he hasn't finished ASOIF!!!!