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Title: Spiders
Post by: Phillip V on June 28, 2009, 10:14:48 PM
My main "work area", ie computer, desk, bookcases, etc. is in my basement. However, there are also visible spiders encamped around. Should I kill them because they are creepy, or do they serve another more important purpose such as eating unwanted pests?
Title: Re: Spiders
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Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 28, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
How many spiders are we talking about?
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Phillip V on June 28, 2009, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 28, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
How many spiders are we talking about?
Just a few here and there. Perhaps 5-10 (visibly) distributed throughout the room with each having its own nook and cranny,
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 28, 2009, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 28, 2009, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 28, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
How many spiders are we talking about?
Just a few here and there. Perhaps 5-10 (visibly) distributed throughout the room with each having its own nook and cranny,
How often do spiders have to eat? You might have an insect problem, especially since it's likely that there are spiders you can't see.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: grumbler on June 28, 2009, 10:31:59 PM
I leave spiders alone.  They are merely biological alternatives to chemicals we would use in a heartbeat.

I have one nasty spider who grows his web on the outside of the window next to my workstation.  He enjoys making me see him stalk and kill the insects that fly into the web overnight while he and I are sleeping. Bastard!
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: garbon on June 28, 2009, 10:53:13 PM
I consider spiders to be unwanted pests and therefore, they should die.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Jaron on June 28, 2009, 11:00:42 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 28, 2009, 10:31:59 PM
I leave spiders alone.  They are merely biological alternatives to chemicals we would use in a heartbeat.

I have one nasty spider who grows his web on the outside of the window next to my workstation.  He enjoys making me see him stalk and kill the insects that fly into the web overnight while he and I are sleeping. Bastard!

Years of living alone have warped your brain.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: DisturbedPervert on June 28, 2009, 11:15:16 PM
Kill the spiders.  Use lizards to eat up any stray insects.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: sbr on June 29, 2009, 12:15:00 AM
The local spider union and I have reached an understanding; if they are outside I ignore them, if they are in my house they get flushed down the shitter with no questions asked.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: grumbler on June 29, 2009, 12:21:12 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on June 28, 2009, 11:15:16 PM
Kill the spiders.  Use lizards to eat up any stray insects.
Lizards are too independent to be reliable.  :(

Besides, spiders don't plot to take over the world.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: garbon on June 29, 2009, 12:37:21 AM
Quote from: sbr on June 29, 2009, 12:15:00 AM
if they are in my house they get flushed down the shitter with no questions asked.

Thanks for killing the environment.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: sbr on June 29, 2009, 12:43:49 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 29, 2009, 12:37:21 AM
Quote from: sbr on June 29, 2009, 12:15:00 AM
if they are in my house they get flushed down the shitter with no questions asked.

Thanks for killing the environment.

What exactly is "killing the environment"?  The one extra flush a week or the spider in the shit pond?

If you are worried about the one extra flush don't, I use much, much less water than the average household. :)

If you are worried about the spider in the shitpond, then I am curious.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Slargos on June 29, 2009, 04:14:54 AM
Spiders are our friends.

That they are there should be a comfort to you, not a worry.

I used to have a house-spider. I named him "spidey". Grew to a massive size and used to scamper across the floor to check out his various webs throughout the appartment. I once tried to feed him a large beetle, but he was not amused. I think it fucked up one of his webs.  :Embarrass:
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Tamas on June 29, 2009, 04:34:54 AM
I consider the spiders to be a loose ally in my eternal struggle to exterminate other more annoying insects. So I dont stomp on them outside the house.

But, the bigger (central european sizes, so dont think that big) versions creap me the hell out so if I find a spider in my rooms, it is dead. Anyways a spider web is the sign of a seriously not-maintained room.

Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Slargos on June 29, 2009, 04:41:40 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 29, 2009, 04:34:54 AM
I consider the spiders to be a loose ally in my eternal struggle to exterminate other more annoying insects. So I dont stomp on them outside the house.

But, the bigger (central european sizes, so dont think that big) versions creap me the hell out so if I find a spider in my rooms, it is dead. Anyways a spider web is the sign of a seriously not-maintained room.

Or a basement appartment.  :cry:

Regardless, ever since the hookers/roaches incident, I regard spiders with an acute fondness.

Enemy of my enemy.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2009, 07:08:31 AM
Leave the little ones be, stomp the medium ones, cower in fear from the big ones.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Josquius on June 29, 2009, 07:40:04 AM
I like having spiders around, the only negative side is when their webs get into inconvenient places or look ugly. I'd rather have them sitting in the corner minding their own business than flying insects bugging me.
This is the UK though bare in mind where we have nothing that can harm you in the slightest. I may well think different if I were in Australia or some other similar place where every living thing is out to kill you.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 08:41:58 AM
I usually catch the larger ones and throw them outside, so that the cat doesn't eat them.

House centepides on the other hand get stomped without mercy.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 11:35:25 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 08:41:58 AM
I usually catch the larger ones and throw them outside, so that the cat doesn't eat them.

House centepides on the other hand get stomped without mercy.

When I was about 13, I closed my drapes at night......to find the largest insect I've ever seen, a massive female centipede, peacefully clinging to my drapes.  I've been supremely terrified of them ever since. 
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 11:39:31 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 11:35:25 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 08:41:58 AM
I usually catch the larger ones and throw them outside, so that the cat doesn't eat them.

House centepides on the other hand get stomped without mercy.

When I was about 13, I closed my drapes at night......to find the largest insect I've ever seen, a massive female centipede, peacefully clinging to my drapes.  I've been supremely terrified of them ever since.

How did you know its gender?  :huh:
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 11:48:08 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 11:39:31 AM
How did you know its gender?  :huh:
For most arthropods the females are bigger, and this motherfucker was huge.  Always presumed it was.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Barrister on June 29, 2009, 11:54:12 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 08:41:58 AM
I usually catch the larger ones and throw them outside, so that the cat doesn't eat them.

House centepides on the other hand get stomped without mercy.

IF I see a spider I'll go and get the cat... :shifty:
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: KRonn on June 29, 2009, 12:04:36 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on June 28, 2009, 11:15:16 PM
Kill the spiders.  Use lizards to eat up any stray insects.
Then need fisher cats to take care of lizard over population....
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: KRonn on June 29, 2009, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 28, 2009, 10:31:59 PM
I leave spiders alone.  They are merely biological alternatives to chemicals we would use in a heartbeat.

I have one nasty spider who grows his web on the outside of the window next to my workstation.  He enjoys making me see him stalk and kill the insects that fly into the web overnight while he and I are sleeping. Bastard!
Sounds more like a pet spider.   :D 

And a pet with a macabre sense of humor.     :menace:
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 29, 2009, 12:08:56 PM
I only bother spiders when they web up in stupid area like the doorway, or someplace else i'm going to get webbed. I'm only getting rid of the dumb spiders.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Razgovory on June 29, 2009, 12:09:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 29, 2009, 11:54:12 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 08:41:58 AM
I usually catch the larger ones and throw them outside, so that the cat doesn't eat them.

House centepides on the other hand get stomped without mercy.

IF I see a spider I'll go and get the cat... :shifty:

My cats are afraid of spiders.  Pussies <_<

I tend to kill the spiders in my house as then have a nasty habit of biting me in my sleep. 
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Berkut on June 29, 2009, 12:15:34 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 11:48:08 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 11:39:31 AM
How did you know its gender?  :huh:
For most arthropods the females are bigger, and this motherfucker was huge.  Always presumed it was.

But was it huge compared to the males of its species?

Seeing a big spider doesn't tell you it is a female, unless you see a big particular species of spider, that you know is large compared to others of its species - and this is presuming that your claim about the females being bigger is a valid determinant of sex to begin with.

This ends Berkut's pedantic grump of the day.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
Was it this centipede Spellus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CL2hetqpfg
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: DisturbedPervert on June 29, 2009, 12:30:10 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
Was it this centipede Spellus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CL2hetqpfg

Horrible.  Mice are vermin, but they're still mammals, and must always be sided with over monstrosities like that thing.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Lucidor on June 29, 2009, 02:39:29 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
Was it this centipede Spellus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CL2hetqpfg
That's not even funny! :cthulhu:
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Neil on June 29, 2009, 02:48:10 PM
I find spiders to be rather horrible, although useful.  The way in which their heads are constructed is unpleasantly alien.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
Was it this centipede Spellus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CL2hetqpfg
That's still among the worst things I've ever seen.  Whoever made that should be fed to hundreds of giant centipedes.  Mice die by the hands of owls, cats or something.  NOT FUCKING ARTHROPODS. 
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Jaron on June 29, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
They should have fed Neda to centipedes.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Lucidor on June 29, 2009, 04:15:09 PM
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Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Neil on June 29, 2009, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
Was it this centipede Spellus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CL2hetqpfg
That's still among the worst things I've ever seen.  Whoever made that should be fed to hundreds of giant centipedes.  Mice die by the hands of owls, cats or something.  NOT FUCKING ARTHROPODS.
Your provincialism is showing.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: FunkMonk on June 29, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
Hmm... it seems that small mammals are inferior, going by the youtube videos of centipedes devouring mice and piranhas doing the same. Makes me think of eons ago when giant 3 meter centipedes roamed the forest floor.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Neil on June 29, 2009, 08:09:14 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 29, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
Hmm... it seems that small mammals are inferior, going by the youtube videos of centipedes devouring mice and piranhas doing the same. Makes me think of eons ago when giant 3 meter centipedes roamed the forest floor.
Depends on how you look at it.  Mammals are much hardier than insects, especially the large ones.  That's why the world is ours.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Capetan Mihali on June 29, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Maggots are my deepest loathing.  :x  They've pursued me in my last three damn apartments, I can't fathom why.   :mad:   :(
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 29, 2009, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 29, 2009, 11:54:12 AM
IF I see a spider I'll go and get the cat... :shifty:

:yes:
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 09:51:02 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 29, 2009, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 29, 2009, 11:54:12 AM
IF I see a spider I'll go and get the cat... :shifty:

:yes:

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Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 29, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
Hmm... it seems that small mammals are inferior, going by the youtube videos of centipedes devouring mice and piranhas doing the same. Makes me think of eons ago when giant 3 meter centipedes roamed the forest floor.
Lets not exaggerate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphoberia
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Malthus on June 29, 2009, 09:51:53 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on June 29, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Maggots are my deepest loathing.  :x  They've pursued me in my last three damn apartments, I can't fathom why.   :mad:   :(

Stop stashing bodies in your attic.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 10:12:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 29, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
Hmm... it seems that small mammals are inferior, going by the youtube videos of centipedes devouring mice and piranhas doing the same. Makes me think of eons ago when giant 3 meter centipedes roamed the forest floor.
Lets not exaggerate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphoberia
He wasn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthropleura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mJXXbny3Q

I'd like to point out that the show that clip is from, Walking with Monsters, is one of the best, most fascinating productions in the history of television. 
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 10:21:26 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 10:12:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 29, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
Hmm... it seems that small mammals are inferior, going by the youtube videos of centipedes devouring mice and piranhas doing the same. Makes me think of eons ago when giant 3 meter centipedes roamed the forest floor.
Lets not exaggerate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphoberia
He wasn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthropleura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mJXXbny3Q

I'd like to point out that the show that clip is from, Walking with Monsters, is one of the best, most fascinating productions in the history of television.
Not technically a centipede.
Title: Re: Spiders
Post by: Neil on June 30, 2009, 07:41:34 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 10:21:26 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 29, 2009, 10:12:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2009, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 29, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
Hmm... it seems that small mammals are inferior, going by the youtube videos of centipedes devouring mice and piranhas doing the same. Makes me think of eons ago when giant 3 meter centipedes roamed the forest floor.
Lets not exaggerate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphoberia
He wasn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthropleura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mJXXbny3Q

I'd like to point out that the show that clip is from, Walking with Monsters, is one of the best, most fascinating productions in the history of television.
Not technically a centipede.
Given that it's part of an extinct family, I'm willing to accept an approximation.  ALthough it more resembles a millipede.