Interesting discussion I heard on radio these past couple of days, based in this news:
http://www.lavalnews.ca/tags/jade-marechal
Basic info:
The girl told her parents she was sleeping at a friend's place on Sunday night. He friend and her parent's friends confrimed this to the girl's mother. At the last minute, she cancelled the sleepover, instead she rented an hotel room to party with some other friends.
She never came back home the following day, so the mother alerted the police and the father, abroad, posted a message on FB with her picture asking for info if anyone had seen her.
Police found her totally drugged in a motel room with 3 other girls, most likely waiting to be shipped out to another province. We don't know much more, police are keeping this quiet for now.
If something like this happens to your child (I certainly don't wish it and hope it never happens), once the relief of finding her alive and well (physically, at least) is passed, how do you react? You let it go thinking it's a good lesson she just had? You restrict her movements out of the house? Remove other priviledges? Send her to a boot camp?
I'm curious.
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Depends how good their lawyer was.
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Play it by ear. Was this experience hairy enough to "scare her straight" or will further punishment be required?
In the movies they always hug the kid and say "I'm just glad you're OK" while crying. That's what I'd probably do.
Damn those other provinces, shipping our girls and what not.
I'd find the guy who drugged her, and tell him to proceed with shipping her out. I wouldn't let police bail her out of a valuable life lesson. :mad:
It's a bit amusing that some kids get stoned and it's a plot by the Anglos to steal Quebecistani women.
Depends on her age. Given that she was old enough to rent a hotel room, I am guessing she is around 16... in which case a Draconian punishment would likely be counter productive. So I guess I would use it as an opportunity to talk about safety and perhaps values.
I think punishment is the easy way out of telling myself that "I have done something about it". The problem is it doesn't work.
I will first tell her that I am glad she is back. Then I will let her know what would likely have happened to her if the police wasn't involved. Finally, I will tell her to get back on track to her life quest to join Goldman Sachs :contract:
What would you do if she told you "Goldman Sachs is for pussies, I'm going to work for Merill Lynch!"
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 23, 2016, 01:39:20 AM
What would you do if she told you "Goldman Sachs is for pussies, I'm going to work for Merill Lynch!"
That's perfectly fine :)
Yeah, I can't think of any punishment that would have a level of impact that would rise to "you were severely drugged and about to be trafficked out of province against your will" in terms of impact. Conversely, if she thought it was awesome to get super high with her friends and strange men who offered to take her on the road (i.e. she thought it was all cool) then I don't really think parental punishment is going to make much of a difference in what she does next.
So yeah, my reaction would be initial relief followed by attempts to make her realize the gravity of the situation (assuming that it's accurate) and the potential repercussions if things had gone differently.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 23, 2016, 01:39:20 AM
What would you do if she told you "Goldman Sachs is for pussies, I'm going to work for Merill Lynch!"
Merill has always been and will always be a third tier firm.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 22, 2016, 08:09:39 PM
In the movies they always hug the kid and say "I'm just glad you're OK" while crying. That's what I'd probably do.
You will do this "once the relief of finding her alive and well (physically, at least) is passed"? Weirdo.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 23, 2016, 02:30:52 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 23, 2016, 01:39:20 AM
What would you do if she told you "Goldman Sachs is for pussies, I'm going to work for Merill Lynch!"
Merill has always been and will always be a third tier firm.
So what? Everybody knows Goldman is the best, but Merill is still one of the largest investment banks in the world. What's important is personal salary, and I think Merill still pays very well. If my child tells me she wants to get into Merill, I'll be super happy.
What if she wants to go to med school? Huge disappointment?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 23, 2016, 06:59:03 AM
What if she wants to go to med school? Huge disappointment?
Nope. Goldman is 10/10. Merill is 9.9/10. Medical school is 9.7/10 :hug:
It is different when teenagers are concern but I try to not let my kids get away with lieing.
I think I'd just spend my days sobbing that I'd managed to raise such a stupid kid.
Quote from: garbon on January 23, 2016, 09:45:10 AM
I think I'd just spend my days sobbing that I'd managed to raise such a stupid kid.
Everyone raises stupid kids, cause kids are stupid.
Quote from: garbon on January 23, 2016, 09:45:10 AM
I think I'd just spend my days sobbing that I'd managed to raise such a stupid kid.
So, you'd just do what your mom did? I didn't think you were such a traditionalist.
:hmm:
:P
Quote from: Camerus on January 22, 2016, 11:44:49 PM
Depends on her age. Given that she was old enough to rent a hotel room, I am guessing she is around 16... in which case a Draconian punishment would likely be counter productive. So I guess I would use it as an opportunity to talk about safety and perhaps values.
Yep.
Quote from: Monoriu on January 23, 2016, 07:47:23 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 23, 2016, 06:59:03 AM
What if she wants to go to med school? Huge disappointment?
Nope. Goldman is 10/10. Merill is 9.9/10. Medical school is 9.7/10 :hug:
Merrill Lynch isn't an investment bank (at least that isn't what it traditionally does--maybe it has picked up some services). I don't think there is anything special about working there.
Ok, I've just learned a couple things. One, Merrill Lynch now belongs to Bank of America. Two, "wealth management" and "investment banking" are not the same thing. :hmm:
Yes they are.
Ok, this line is really weird then:
QuoteThis article is about Merrill Lynch Wealth Management, the wealth management division of Bank of America, and Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc. as an independent company prior to its January 2009 acquisition by Bank of America. For the corporate and investment banking division of Bank of America, see Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 23, 2016, 06:36:28 PM
Ok, this line is really weird then:
QuoteThis article is about Merrill Lynch Wealth Management, the wealth management division of Bank of America, and Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc. as an independent company prior to its January 2009 acquisition by Bank of America. For the corporate and investment banking division of Bank of America, see Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
Wealth management is about helping people invest. Investment making is about helping people, or corporations (or whatever), raise capital by getting others to invest in the principals, managing mergers and acquisitions, and that sort of thing. They are kind of the opposite (IB raising money, WM investing it).
Merrill Lynch made its name as a brokerage firm, specifically retail brokerage. Basically advising doctors and other UMC professionals about what stocks to buy. They had a huge network of brokers, the "thundering herd.". Over time, they got into the investment banking business and by the late 90s they were one of the biggest underwriters of debt and equity deals. But they got killed in the sub-prime blow up and BOA picked up the pieces, apparently with the aim of scooping up the retail relationships.
UMC?
asoka
I think of Merill Lynch as "the investment banking arm of Bank of America", but I freely admit that I don't know much about recent developments.