Terrible :o
http://www.startribune.com/several-people-were-shot-near-black-lives-matter-protest-site/353121881/
QuoteFive people shot near Black Lives Matter protest site
Injured are hospitalized after gunfire erupts near Black Lives Matter camp.
November 24, 2015 — 5:31am
Five protesters were shot late Monday night near the Black Lives Matter encampment at the Fourth Precinct police station in north Minneapolis, according to police.
Those who were shot sustained non-life-threatening injuries, said police spokesman John Elder in a statement.
Miski Noor, a media contact for Black Lives Matter, said "a group of white supremacists showed up at the protest, as they have done most nights."
One of the three counterdemonstrators wore a mask, said Dana Jaehnert, who had been at the protest site since early evening.
When about a dozen protesters attempted to herd the group away from the area, Noor said, they "opened fire on about six protesters," hitting five of them. Jaehnert said she heard four gunshots.
The shootings occurred at 10:45 p.m. on Morgan Avenue N. about a block north of the precinct station.
The attackers fled. No arrests had been made by midnight Monday. Police said via their Twitter feed that they are searching for three white male suspects.
The gunshot victims were taken to North Memorial Medical Center and Hennepin County Medical Center (HCMC), deputy police chief Medaria Arradondo said at the scene.
A person at the scene said one of the victims had been shot in the stomach, and was undergoing surgery overnight at HCMC.
Jie Wronski-Riley said angry protesters moved the counter-demonstrators away from the encampment at the police station. Wronski-Riley heard what sounded like firecrackers and thought, "surely they're not shooting human beings." Two young black men on either side of him were hit, one in the back and leg, the other in the arm.
At least two of the three men who had been taunting protesters were firing guns, said Wronski-Riley, who described the incident as "really chaotic, really fast."
"I am obviously appalled that white supremacists would open fire on nonviolent, peaceful protesters," said Nekima Levy-Pounds, president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP, who returned to the site after the shootings.
The protesters, angry over the fatal police shooting of 24-year-old Jamar Clark on Nov. 15, have maintained a presence outside the police station ever since.
Eddie Sutton, Jamar's brother, issued this statement early Tuesday morning in response to the shootings:
"Thank you to the community for the incredible support you have shown for our family in this difficult time. We appreciate Black Lives Matter for holding it down and keeping the protests peaceful. But in light of tonight's shootings, the family feels out of imminent concern for the safety of the occupiers, we must get the occupation of the 4th precinct ended and onto the next step."
I am sure the shooters were not motivated by their corrupt, immoral ideology but by socio-economic conditions imposed on them by Western imperialism.
Quote from: Martinus on November 24, 2015, 09:11:47 AM
I am sure the shooters were not motivated by their corrupt, immoral ideology but by socio-economic conditions imposed on them by Western imperialism.
:lmfao:
We could ask them, but of course they probably don't even know why they do what they do...
A little surprised the police were not notified and aware of a white supremacist counter demonstration.
Well glad nobody was killed and I hope they catch the bastards.
Quote from: Valmy on November 24, 2015, 10:22:49 AM
A little surprised the police were not notified and aware of a white supremacist counter demonstration.
Well glad nobody was killed and I hope they catch the bastards.
Yeah, counter-demonstrations are usually closely watched over here. Heck, most often the counter-demo is forced away from the path of the original one by the authorities.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 24, 2015, 08:59:55 AM
Terrible :o
http://www.startribune.com/several-people-were-shot-near-black-lives-matter-protest-site/353121881/ (http://www.startribune.com/several-people-were-shot-near-black-lives-matter-protest-site/353121881/)
QuoteFive people shot near Black Lives Matter protest site
Injured are hospitalized after gunfire erupts near Black Lives Matter camp.
November 24, 2015 — 5:31am
Five protesters were shot late Monday night near the Black Lives Matter encampment at the Fourth Precinct police station in north Minneapolis, according to police.
Those who were shot sustained non-life-threatening injuries, said police spokesman John Elder in a statement.
Miski Noor, a media contact for Black Lives Matter, said "a group of white supremacists showed up at the protest, as they have done most nights."
One of the three counterdemonstrators wore a mask, said Dana Jaehnert, who had been at the protest site since early evening.
When about a dozen protesters attempted to herd the group away from the area, Noor said, they "opened fire on about six protesters," hitting five of them. Jaehnert said she heard four gunshots.
The shootings occurred at 10:45 p.m. on Morgan Avenue N. about a block north of the precinct station.
The attackers fled. No arrests had been made by midnight Monday. Police said via their Twitter feed that they are searching for three white male suspects.
The gunshot victims were taken to North Memorial Medical Center and Hennepin County Medical Center (HCMC), deputy police chief Medaria Arradondo said at the scene.
A person at the scene said one of the victims had been shot in the stomach, and was undergoing surgery overnight at HCMC.
Jie Wronski-Riley said angry protesters moved the counter-demonstrators away from the encampment at the police station. Wronski-Riley heard what sounded like firecrackers and thought, "surely they're not shooting human beings." Two young black men on either side of him were hit, one in the back and leg, the other in the arm.
At least two of the three men who had been taunting protesters were firing guns, said Wronski-Riley, who described the incident as "really chaotic, really fast."
"I am obviously appalled that white supremacists would open fire on nonviolent, peaceful protesters," said Nekima Levy-Pounds, president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP, who returned to the site after the shootings.
The protesters, angry over the fatal police shooting of 24-year-old Jamar Clark on Nov. 15, have maintained a presence outside the police station ever since.
Eddie Sutton, Jamar's brother, issued this statement early Tuesday morning in response to the shootings:
"Thank you to the community for the incredible support you have shown for our family in this difficult time. We appreciate Black Lives Matter for holding it down and keeping the protests peaceful. But in light of tonight's shootings, the family feels out of imminent concern for the safety of the occupiers, we must get the occupation of the 4th precinct ended and onto the next step."
maybe they should have been roughed up?
QuoteOne of the three counterdemonstrators wore a mask
it should be easy to avoid such things in the future, simply forbid any masks during a a protest.
Quote from: Martinus on November 24, 2015, 09:11:47 AM
I am sure the shooters were not motivated by their corrupt, immoral ideology but by socio-economic conditions imposed on them by Western imperialism.
Their corrupt immoral ideology pretty much is Western imperialism, so in this case both can be true at the same time :smarty:
I wonder what Syt's in-laws will say.
Quote from: Jacob on November 24, 2015, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: Martinus on November 24, 2015, 09:11:47 AM
I am sure the shooters were not motivated by their corrupt, immoral ideology but by socio-economic conditions imposed on them by Western imperialism.
Their corrupt immoral ideology pretty much is Western imperialism, so in this case both can be true at the same time :smarty:
Pretty sure you can be racist without being an imperial power, as Eastern Europe shows all the time.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 24, 2015, 01:43:06 PM
I wonder what Syt's in-laws will say.
The presence of the demonstrators threatened the 2nd amendment rights of the law-abiding gun owners?
Quote from: Razgovory on November 24, 2015, 01:43:06 PM
I wonder what Syt's in-laws will say.
Something about mental illness?
Quote from: Valmy on November 24, 2015, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 24, 2015, 01:43:06 PM
I wonder what Syt's in-laws will say.
Something about mental illness?
I thought they were all about picking up guns to solve problems.
Quote from: Valmy on November 24, 2015, 02:26:31 PMPretty sure you can be racist without being an imperial power, as Eastern Europe shows all the time.
For sure, but the ideology of white supremacy is direct product of - and explicit justification for - various Western imperial projects. The taxonomy of races, the superiority of white over black, the reading of moral character into racial characteristics, the insistence on racial separatism, and so on, are all products of the ideologies created by Western imperial powers that served to justify their imperialism at the time.
And, as per the title of the thread, we were speaking of white supremacists in particular.
But yeah, I agree that there are ways to be racist that are different from White Supremacy, and those different ways may be significantly less related to Western imperialism (or even not at all).
Quote from: Martinus on November 24, 2015, 09:11:47 AM
I am sure the shooters were not motivated by their corrupt, immoral ideology but by socio-economic conditions imposed on them by Western imperialism.
no, it's because christianity is a dangerous religion and has caused every war in the west :P
Quote from: Jacob on November 24, 2015, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 24, 2015, 02:26:31 PMPretty sure you can be racist without being an imperial power, as Eastern Europe shows all the time.
For sure, but the ideology of white supremacy is direct product of - and explicit justification for - various Western imperial projects. The taxonomy of races, the superiority of white over black, the reading of moral character into racial characteristics, the insistence on racial separatism, and so on, are all products of the ideologies created by Western imperial powers that served to justify their imperialism at the time.
And, as per the title of the thread, we were speaking of white supremacists in particular.
But yeah, I agree that there are ways to be racist that are different from White Supremacy, and those different ways may be significantly less related to Western imperialism (or even not at all).
Ok, Noam. :rolleyes:
By the way, are you saying that Eastern Europeans are not white or that their racism is not about white supremacy? :lol:
Quote from: Martinus on November 25, 2015, 01:18:50 AM
Ok, Noam. :rolleyes:
You know you're going to use those exact arguments at some other time when it suits you, so, like, whatever :rolleyes:
Besides, you know I'm correct in this particular case.
QuoteBy the way, are you saying that Eastern Europeans are not white or that their racism is not about white supremacy? :lol:
Nope, I'm saying neither.
Whether East Europeans are White is a matter of perspective. Like all notions of race, the identity is ultimately constructed so the classification of a given individual or group of people varies over time and place.
As for whether the racism of East Europeans is about White supremacy, I don't see why it couldn't be.