http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/ahmed-mohamed-sudan-president-omar-al-bashir-texas-clock
In times like this I think conservatives are right and liberals are dumb.
Quote from: Martinus on November 07, 2015, 06:12:13 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/ahmed-mohamed-sudan-president-omar-al-bashir-texas-clock
In times like this I think conservatives are right and liberals are dumb.
In times like this I think conservatives are right and Martinus are dumb.
Yeah, it looks pretty bad in this particular case, but we live in a free society. In a free society, you can't have blatant racial profiling. It needs to be subtle and disguised.
Quote from: DGuller on November 07, 2015, 06:19:18 PM
Yeah, it looks pretty bad in this particular case, but we live in a free society. In a free society, you can't have blatant racial profiling. It needs to be subtle and disguised.
It wouldn't be racial profiling, but religious profiling. :secret:
Quote from: Martinus on November 07, 2015, 06:38:27 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 07, 2015, 06:19:18 PM
Yeah, it looks pretty bad in this particular case, but we live in a free society. In a free society, you can't have blatant racial profiling. It needs to be subtle and disguised.
It wouldn't be racial profiling, but religious profiling. :secret:
They are inevitably one and the same.
Has this child aged 2 or 4 years in the last 2 months?
If not then he's still the legal charge of his father and so isn't responsible for whom his father take him to meet.
When he's 16 or 18 years old and meeting these sorts of people, then lets 'judge' him by the company he keeps.
And even then I think some allowances need to made for teenagers who make stupid or experimental early adulthood decisions.
This news snippet still doesn't justify original stupid actions of the school administrators and local police hierarchy.
I don't remember the original news stories mentioning that his father had been a Presidential candidate.
Maybe Junior has decided he'd rather be a bigshot in Sudan than a Muslim nobody in America. :hmm:
I don't think a 14-year-old gets to decide the calendar of the president of Sudan. You go to Sudan and the president wants to meet you, you meet him.
This whole fake "controversy" is fake.
This is what happens when you follow Anti-Vaxxers on twitter. :(
Every African leader is a war criminal, nothing to freak about.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 07, 2015, 07:04:45 PM
I don't remember the original news stories mentioning that his father had been a Presidential candidate.
Maybe Junior has decided he'd rather be a bigshot in Sudan than a Muslim nobody in America. :hmm:
I guess my point is that the story looks more and more like it was engineered entirely to create the backlash it did. Especially given that the "clock" he "constructed" looked like a suitcase bomb.
Oh, those ethnic types! Always conspiring to make bigots look bad, what their different colored skin and their foreign ways!
Quote from: Martinus on November 08, 2015, 02:12:55 AM
I guess my point is that the story looks more and more like it was engineered entirely to create the backlash it did. Especially given that the "clock" he "constructed" looked like a suitcase bomb.
It's possible, though I don't remember anyone here saying the clock looked like a bomb before.
Not sure how you can be so cynical about one Muslim youth and yet so blase about a million. :hmm:
Quote from: Martinus on November 08, 2015, 02:12:55 AM
I guess my point is that the story looks more and more like it was engineered entirely to create the backlash it did. Especially given that the "clock" he "constructed" looked like a suitcase bomb.
I guess you are just gullible, then. Nothing in this story looks like it was "engineered entirely to create the backlash it did." The "suitcase" you are talking about was less than 8" by 3" by 1." That's a pretty fucking small "suitcase." The "argument" that you "constructed" looks like a moronic one.
Old news, yes, he met with Obama a while ago.
Quote from: lustindarkness on November 09, 2015, 10:16:31 AM
Old news, yes, he met with Obama a while ago.
:lol:
Bravo sir.
And now he's suing for $15 million. :rolleyes: I have to say that my outrage over this story has worn out, and then some.
Doesn't this just show how well integrated he is?
heh
That's what discouraging cops from excessive violence leads to.
Quote from: DGuller on November 24, 2015, 01:13:01 AM
And now he's suing for $15 million. :rolleyes: I have to say that my outrage over this story has worn out, and then some.
Suing whom? Was it wrongful arrest? Aren't there standard procedures for this over there?
Quote from: DGuller on November 24, 2015, 01:13:01 AM
And now he's suing for $15 million. :rolleyes: I have to say that my outrage over this story has worn out, and then some.
He was probably pushed by a lawyer who had dollar signs in his eyes.
Quote from: DGuller on November 24, 2015, 01:13:01 AM
And now he's suing for $15 million. :rolleyes: I have to say that my outrage over this story has worn out, and then some.
Agreed on that.
Quote from: Syt on November 24, 2015, 06:02:53 AM
Quote from: DGuller on November 24, 2015, 01:13:01 AM
And now he's suing for $15 million. :rolleyes: I have to say that my outrage over this story has worn out, and then some.
He was probably pushed by a lawyer who had dollar signs in his eyes.
Probably, but he's pushed by so many unsavory characters to do so many unsavory things that it is still leaves a bad taste in mouth. Whatever the explanation, he has ceased being a sympathetic "victim".
I thought it was more a condemnation of our irrational school system than that the kid was necessarily an angel.
Quote from: Valmy on November 24, 2015, 10:38:33 AM
I thought it was more a condemnation of our irrational school system than that the kid was necessarily an angel.
But was the school system really irrational here?
Quote from: Martinus on November 24, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 24, 2015, 10:38:33 AM
I thought it was more a condemnation of our irrational school system than that the kid was necessarily an angel.
But was the school system really irrational here?
Yes.