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Title: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Razgovory on October 18, 2015, 03:19:12 PM
I'm a bit biased toward physicists so I argue for James Clerk Maxwell, and Sir Issac Newton.  Also Dmitri Mendeleev in Chemistry.  Most Brilliant living one might be James Watson who along with is now dead colleague did more then anyone to prove Evolution by Natural Selection by discovering the mechanisms behind it.  Completely arbitrary of course, and because I'm bored.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: The Brain on October 18, 2015, 03:50:56 PM
Well obviously physicists are at the top of the pyramid.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 18, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
Newton, for inventing or discovering gravity, the laws of motion, calculus, a telescope, some stuff about light, and the combination of fruit and cake.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Jaron on October 18, 2015, 03:56:29 PM
Alan Turing.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: The Brain on October 18, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
I was gonna say we have to get some women in but close enough.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 18, 2015, 03:59:24 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 18, 2015, 03:44:15 PM
Raz, like the thread title but feel 'gratest , 'grateus' would have improved it.


edit:
I should add, I don't know enough about science to answer.  :blush:

Here is your answer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Drais (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Drais)
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Martinus on October 18, 2015, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 18, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
I was gonna say we have to get some women in but close enough.

Well, Newton and Leonardo were both fags, so no need to get in a few barbs about Turing. ;)
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 18, 2015, 04:10:08 PM
Newton was a crazy religious celibate AFAIK.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Josephus on October 18, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 18, 2015, 03:44:15 PM
Raz, like the thread title but feel 'gratest , 'grateus' would have improved it.


edit:
I should add, I don't know enough about science to answer.  :blush:

And the correct spelling of history's
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: The Brain on October 18, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 18, 2015, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 18, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
I was gonna say we have to get some women in but close enough.

Well, Newton and Leonardo were both fags, so no need to get in a few barbs about Turing. ;)

They didn't enjoy his modern medical treatment.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: alfred russel on October 18, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
Jesus turned water into wine, through processes not yet discovered by modern science. He must have been a hell of a chemist. Also he must have invented some crazy drugs based on the stories of his followers.

Honorable mentions:

-Han Solo, who made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs. Legions of nerds have pointed out that makes no sense, because parsecs are a unit of distance. What they fail to understand is Han Solo was a great scientist whose ship merged with space-time, equating distance and time. Also his ship could go light speed, which modern "scientists" can't figure out how to do.

-Geordi Laforge: Think the falcon was awesome for going light speed? This guy got his much bigger ship to go a multiple of light speed.

-The Jamaican Track Team Doctor: Logic says the fastest runners shouldn't all come from a shitty island in the Caribbean. Yet the Americans are the ones getting busted for drug use.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 18, 2015, 04:39:55 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 18, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
-The Jamaican Track Team Doctor: Logic says the fastest runners shouldn't all come from a shitty island in the Caribbean. Yet the Americans are the ones getting busted for drug use.

Disagree.  Sugar plantation slave labor was accelerated Darwinism.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 18, 2015, 05:25:20 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 18, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
Jesus turned water into wine, through processes not yet discovered by modern science. He must have been a hell of a chemist.

Add some yeast and grape juice.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: alfred russel on October 18, 2015, 05:35:06 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 18, 2015, 04:39:55 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 18, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
-The Jamaican Track Team Doctor: Logic says the fastest runners shouldn't all come from a shitty island in the Caribbean. Yet the Americans are the ones getting busted for drug use.

Disagree.  Sugar plantation slave labor was accelerated Darwinism.

Why would working on a Jamaican plantation result in better sprinters, but apparently not American plantations?

Also, I don't think there is really an evidence slavery had the impact you describe.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: DGuller on October 18, 2015, 06:45:01 PM
 :hmm: How is sprint performance being selected for with slavery on sugar plantations?  I'm not a farmer, but I'm pretty sure you don't harvest sugar beets by chasing them down and grabbing them.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Razgovory on October 18, 2015, 07:00:28 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 18, 2015, 03:44:15 PM
Raz, like the thread title but feel 'gratest , 'grateus' would have improved it.


edit:
I should add, I don't know enough about science to answer.  :blush:

And the correct spelling of history's

I was T-minus one nap-time.  I had an extremely short schedule.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: The Brain on October 18, 2015, 10:50:27 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2015, 06:45:01 PM
:hmm: How is sprint performance being selected for with slavery on sugar plantations?  I'm not a farmer, but I'm pretty sure you don't harvest sugar beets by chasing them down and grabbing them.

^_^
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 19, 2015, 01:06:30 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2015, 06:45:01 PM
:hmm: How is sprint performance being selected for with slavery on sugar plantations?  I'm not a farmer, but I'm pretty sure you don't harvest sugar beets by chasing them down and grabbing them.

Sugar beets are slow, which is why there are few well-known East European sprinters.  Sugar *cane*, which was and is grown in the Caribbean and parts of the American South, is fast as lightning.

I do know that the mortality rate for slaves involved in sugar production was very high, I believe primarily in the cooking stage, when a lot of slaves suffered burns.  The rest is speculative.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Martinus on October 19, 2015, 01:20:04 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 18, 2015, 04:10:08 PM
Newton was a crazy religious celibate AFAIK.

I didn't realize only heterosexual people can be celibate.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Martinus on October 19, 2015, 01:23:25 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 18, 2015, 05:35:06 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 18, 2015, 04:39:55 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 18, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
-The Jamaican Track Team Doctor: Logic says the fastest runners shouldn't all come from a shitty island in the Caribbean. Yet the Americans are the ones getting busted for drug use.

Disagree.  Sugar plantation slave labor was accelerated Darwinism.

Why would working on a Jamaican plantation result in better sprinters, but apparently not American plantations?

Also, I don't think there is really an evidence slavery had the impact you describe.

Maybe Jamaican slaves weren't lazy?
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 19, 2015, 01:30:34 AM
I didn't realize some hackademic* "reading between the lines" and outing a historical figure on little evidence made it so. /shrug

*Did I just coin this? That would be awesome. But unlikely.  :D
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Brazen on October 19, 2015, 04:48:11 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 18, 2015, 04:10:08 PM
Newton was a crazy religious celibate AFAIK.
"Confirmed bachelor"
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Brazen on October 19, 2015, 04:54:11 AM
I'll take this as a "name women scientists and engineers without mentioning Marie Curie" challenge:
Ada Lovelace
Margaret Hamilton
Hedy Lamarr
Rosalind Franklin
Dorothy Hodgkin
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Syt on October 19, 2015, 05:04:56 AM
Quote from: Brazen on October 19, 2015, 04:54:11 AM
Hedy Lamarr

It's Hedley! <_<
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Berkut on October 19, 2015, 09:17:22 AM
Quote from: Brazen on October 19, 2015, 04:54:11 AM
I'll take this as a "name women scientists and engineers without mentioning Marie Curie" challenge:
Ada Lovelace
Margaret Hamilton
Hedy Lamarr
Rosalind Franklin
Dorothy Hodgkin

Yep, that covers them! Well done.

:P
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Syt on October 19, 2015, 09:30:23 AM
For Germany I would add Emmy Noether: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmy_Noether
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Valmy on October 19, 2015, 10:29:55 AM
History's greatest scientists?

I will just post this:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2il.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2FGreat-Physicists-in-history-solvay-conference-1927-albert-einstein-in-centre-first-row.jpg&hash=2ff332ff4b56773873b14fa2423927ffefa1b9aa)

Marty can tell you which ones are gay.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Martinus on October 19, 2015, 10:59:33 AM
Meh, it's all relative or uncertain with some of these guys. And one of them has been mean to cats.
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: Valmy on October 19, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 19, 2015, 10:59:33 AM
Meh, it's all relative or uncertain with some of these guys. And one of them has been mean to cats.

:D
Title: Re: Histories greatest scienctists!
Post by: The Brain on October 19, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 19, 2015, 01:06:30 AM
I do know that the mortality rate for slaves involved in sugar production was very high, I believe primarily in the cooking stage, when a lot of slaves suffered burns.  The rest is speculative.

Caramel babies are nice though.