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Poll
Question: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Option 1: I'm from the New World and I don't have any left. votes: 9
Option 2: I'm from the New World and I've relatives in the Old Country. votes: 4
Option 3: I'm from the Old World and I don't have any votes: 6
Option 4: I'm from the Old World and I've relatives in the New World. votes: 9
Title: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Archy on October 13, 2015, 12:59:55 AM
Out of curiosity to check the migrant  links languishians have.

Some definitions.
Relative (I'll go as far as brothers and sisters of grandparents)
New World(Americas and I would say Oceania)
Old World (Europe/Asia/Africa)

For myself I got two great aunts at the side of my father's grandmother who migrated and now live in Florida with the advent of the Internet in the 90's we got in contact again.
One nephew at my father's side is trying to start up a gaming company in California and married an US citizen so won't return.
Another nephew moved last year to Charlotte,  North Carolina on a tourist visum and under job leave.  He's going to marry his Colombian gf who has American citizenship. Unemployed at the moment and if it doesn't work out plans to come back to Belgium.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on October 13, 2015, 01:09:32 AM
Close-ish relatives in Canada and Australia, more distant ones in USA, Malaysia etc etc

I would imagine it is a similar story for many British families. Which is why the interpretation of the word migrant as being somehow critical surprises me.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 13, 2015, 01:16:56 AM
AFAIK, my folks have lived on this continent for centuries, though my mom's parents did immigrate here from Canada.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Jaron on October 13, 2015, 01:19:51 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 13, 2015, 01:16:56 AM
AFAIK, my folks have lived on this continent for centuries, though my mom's parents did immigrate here from Canada.

Where did your papa'n folk come from?
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Monoriu on October 13, 2015, 01:32:07 AM
Almost all my known relatives moved to Canada in the 90s.  Then everybody found out that it wasn't possible to make a living over there.  My parents and I moved back to Hong Kong after a few years.  The retirees tended to stay over there.  Those who have children tended to leave their wives and children in Canada, and "commuted" between the two continents.  It is complicated. 
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2015, 01:35:28 AM
One uncle and his immediate family live in Korea.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Syt on October 13, 2015, 02:06:26 AM
Old world: me, niece, nephew, mother. Some uncles/aunts/cousins we have no contact with.
New world: 3 sisters, 4 nephews, 2 nieces, plus in laws.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 13, 2015, 02:13:34 AM
Quote from: Jaron on October 13, 2015, 01:19:51 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 13, 2015, 01:16:56 AM
AFAIK, my folks have lived on this continent for centuries, though my mom's parents did immigrate here from Canada.

Where did your papa'n folk come from?

Scotland, originally.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Josquius on October 13, 2015, 02:21:51 AM
One of my mother's cousins is (was?) a professional golf caddy. Lives in California iirc. Don't think I've ever met him.

Other than that....my surname is pretty rare and it exists in the US (Google seems to suggest via ACW association mainly in the south :bleeding: ) so I guess there's some distant relatives.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Duque de Bragança on October 13, 2015, 02:43:31 AM
Some cousins in the New World, mostly in Brazil.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Liep on October 13, 2015, 03:01:39 AM
We all cling to the old world. Though most of us have moved away from agriculture and now live in the capital.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Zanza on October 13, 2015, 03:07:58 AM
Not really.

I know some distant relatives moved to the Americas. My granduncle moved to Brazil in early 1933, some other relatives (cousins of my grandparents or so) moved to North America sometime during the second half of the 20th century.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: The Larch on October 13, 2015, 04:30:35 AM
My father has an aunt in Argentina, who went there at some point in the 60s or 70s. Contact with her has been lost for many years already.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 13, 2015, 04:54:36 AM
only very distant relatives, one of which worked for the "Gazette van Detroit" and another apparently worked for Nixon in some fashion. Most of them float about in the Detroit region, obviously.
But like I said: distant, so not eligable for the poll.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Brazen on October 13, 2015, 05:33:43 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 13, 2015, 01:09:32 AM
Close-ish relatives in Canada and Australia, more distant ones in USA, Malaysia etc etc

I would imagine it is a similar story for many British families. Which is why the interpretation of the word migrant as being somehow critical surprises me.
Yep, Canada and Australia for me too.

I'm related by marriage to Paul Henderson, the Canadian ice hockey player who scored the winning goal against the USSR in the 1972 Summit Series at the height of the Cold War.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: viper37 on October 13, 2015, 08:59:05 AM
Quote from: Archy on October 13, 2015, 12:59:55 AM
Out of curiosity to check the migrant  links languishians have.

Some definitions.
Relative (I'll go as far as brothers and sisters of grandparents)
New World(Americas and I would say Oceania)
Old World (Europe/Asia/Africa)

For myself I got two great aunts at the side of my father's grandmother who migrated and now live in Florida with the advent of the Internet in the 90's we got in contact again.
One nephew at my father's side is trying to start up a gaming company in California and married an US citizen so won't return.
Another nephew moved last year to Charlotte,  North Carolina on a tourist visum and under job leave.  He's going to marry his Colombian gf who has American citizenship. Unemployed at the moment and if it doesn't work out plans to come back to Belgium.
I had an aunt living in Switzerland for a while, but she's been back for a few years now. I'd hoped she stayed there though.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Josephus on October 13, 2015, 09:01:35 AM
I got cousins, an uncle (mom's brother/his kids), and second cousins in Old World (Malta)
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Razgovory on October 13, 2015, 09:07:09 AM
No.  There's like five generations between me and anywhere in Europe.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Caliga on October 13, 2015, 09:09:45 AM
Nope.  Many generations removed from Europe now on both sides of the family.

In Princesca's family, her dad's cousin has exchanged letters with a very distant German relative, mostly related to genealogy stuff.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Malthus on October 13, 2015, 09:15:45 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 13, 2015, 09:01:35 AM
I got cousins, an uncle (mom's brother/his kids), and second cousins in Old World (Malta)

Heh it always astonishes me that Toronto has its own ethnic Maltese neighbourhood up in the Junction. It just seems odd that such a small island had enough people come here to make their own ethnic enclave.  ;)

As for me, I have a brother in the UK (the other is in the US). My ancestors all came to the NW a long time ago - on my father's side, they were Puritans who settled in Mass. (there is still a museum there with my family name on it!) before moving north to Nova Scotia in the 18th century; on my mother's side, they came over before WW1 (in fact, it is unclear from exactly where: my great-grandmother spoke Polish, Russian, German and Yiddish - and had papers from Austro-Hungary and from Russia ... ). Smart move, that.  :D No doubt I was related to all sorts of Jews from that part of the world, but long ago lost all touch with them - plus they must have mostly died in WW2.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Syt on October 13, 2015, 09:19:10 AM
What astonishes me about Malta is that they seem to cope with only 10 or so family names among them. :P
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Barrister on October 13, 2015, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Brazen on October 13, 2015, 05:33:43 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 13, 2015, 01:09:32 AM
Close-ish relatives in Canada and Australia, more distant ones in USA, Malaysia etc etc

I would imagine it is a similar story for many British families. Which is why the interpretation of the word migrant as being somehow critical surprises me.
Yep, Canada and Australia for me too.

I'm related by marriage to Paul Henderson, the Canadian ice hockey player who scored the winning goal against the USSR in the 1972 Summit Series at the height of the Cold War.

:wub:  Tell me more.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Monoriu on October 13, 2015, 09:39:46 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 13, 2015, 09:19:10 AM
What astonishes me about Malta is that they seem to cope with only 10 or so family names among them. :P

I've read somewhere that 25% of Chinese share like 5 family names.  There are over a billion Chinese...
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Valmy on October 13, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
Nope. Being descended almost exclusively from people from whatever I am allowed to call the British Isles that will not offend the touchy assholes from Ireland, I have no immigrants recent enough.

And the most recent immigrants I am descended from are Irish Catholics in the 1870s who did a fantastic job killing any and all links to the old world. For example they forbid their children from learning or speaking the...um...whatever I am supposed to call the language formerly known as Gaelic that was commonly spoken in County Donegal at the time. The only thing that was left was devout Catholicism but that ended with my father's generation.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Barrister on October 13, 2015, 10:09:11 AM
Nope.  I go back about 5 generations on both sides of my family.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Brazen on October 13, 2015, 11:08:44 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 13, 2015, 09:31:42 AM
:wub:  Tell me more.
Not that close, he married my dad's cousin's daughter. I've met the second cousin and her husband and they're all a bit evangelical born again, as is Paul by all accounts. Between all that nearly dying business. 
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Grey Fox on October 13, 2015, 11:19:02 AM
I don't think so, no.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Josephus on October 13, 2015, 11:25:55 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 13, 2015, 09:39:46 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 13, 2015, 09:19:10 AM
What astonishes me about Malta is that they seem to cope with only 10 or so family names among them. :P

I've read somewhere that 25% of Chinese share like 5 family names.  There are over a billion Chinese...

Quite a few less Maltese.  :D
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Pedrito on October 13, 2015, 01:54:57 PM
Old Worlder, and all the known relatives I know of live in Europe.

I think a couple of distant cousins may live in the USA, but I'm not sure.

L.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Syt on October 13, 2015, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on October 13, 2015, 01:54:57 PM
I think a couple of distant cousins may live in the USA, but I'm not sure.


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Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Valmy on October 13, 2015, 02:44:52 PM
If I was related to Marisa Tomei I would want to know...

wait or would I?
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Liep on October 13, 2015, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2015, 02:44:52 PM
If I was related to Marisa Tomei I would want to know...

wait or would I?

I was thinking the same...
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2015, 02:51:37 PM
Are you guys suggesting that you'd feel guilty about perving on a distant relative?
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: celedhring on October 13, 2015, 02:56:42 PM
Heck, I have two distant cousins that are really hot and I can tell you that ogling them is the only thing that makes family reunions bearable.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: mongers on October 13, 2015, 02:58:41 PM
The family of a great uncle who emigrated to Wisconsin/Minnesota, but that's it.


edit:
bit of an oversight as I forgot about one of my only two cousins, he's been living in the US for the last dozen years, married to an American, so I'm guessing he's probably a US citizen by now, fancy forgetting about him.  :blush:
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Valmy on October 13, 2015, 03:01:25 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2015, 02:51:37 PM
Are you guys suggesting that you'd feel guilty about perving on a distant relative?

Guilty? No just a bit creepy.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2015, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 13, 2015, 02:58:41 PM
one of my only two cousins

The mongers family line is dying out; what a tragedy for the gene pool.  :(
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: celedhring on October 13, 2015, 03:06:17 PM
To the best of my knowledge, I was the first person of my family to ever set foot in America.

EDIT: I'm wrong, my aunt spent two weeks in Brazil on holidays before that.
Title: Re: Do you have relatives in the New/Old World?
Post by: mongers on October 13, 2015, 03:22:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2015, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 13, 2015, 02:58:41 PM
one of my only two cousins

The mongers family line is dying out; what a tragedy for the gene pool.  :(

That's the 'other side' of the family, luckily for you my brother and sister have done their bit.  :P