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As foreigner I'm not allowed to vote for the Vienna state parliament and mayor (I can only vote for the district assembly). So let's have a Languish vote instead.

I predict that BB will be dismayed by the lack of suits & ties.  :P

I'd vote for the crazy eyes dude.

Voted younger beer dude.

Probable lesbian second woman

The doctor looks like one of my best friends, so I'll vote for him.

That first guy reminds me of this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-OOpzb1hg

Colonel Mustard.

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 05, 2015, 08:11:50 AM
Colonel Mustard.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

Did you intentionally pick these horrible pics?

The young cute woman is probably the candidate from the fascist communist nutcase party. So I will vote for the beer guy.

Quote from: Valmy on September 05, 2015, 11:20:06 AM
The young cute woman is probably the candidate from the fascist communist nutcase party. So I will vote for the beer guy.

This being Austria, anyone over 40 is probably a nazi. :P

Voted the straight MILF ticket.

Since this is Languish, and we vote on HOTTness, I gotta go with the short-haired blonde (there are MUCH better pictures out there).  The others being from the Greens and Pirate party?  :yucky:

The Pirate party girl is kinda cute, but way too young (I am starting to realize that despite being young at heart, I am actually in creepy old man territory :( )

Quote from: The Larch on September 05, 2015, 04:36:48 AM
I predict that BB will be dismayed by the lack of suits & ties.  :P

Actually, if you look closely, #2, #3 and #6 all appear to be wearing a suit and tie. :thumbsup:  And I guess I'll excuse #1 because though I don't like people wearing scrubs outside of a hospital, it does look like this pic was taken inside a hospital.  So I'll only roll me eyes at #7's sweater. :rolleyes:

I'm going to vote for #2 assuming that his eyes don't usually bulge out like that.  I'm tempted by #6, but he is probably some sort of Nazi.

I would usually vote for the guy with the beer but as I have the misfortune to know he is an asshole, I went with the last woman.

Quote from: Zanza on September 05, 2015, 02:45:41 PM
I would usually vote for the guy with the beer but as I have the misfortune to know he is an asshole, I went with the last woman.

Yeah, he looks a bit of a tosser. I hope he's FPÖ or something idiotic like that.

Voted the last chick, on account of "least likely to be a nazi". She looks like a "bruja" so that's a plus as well - Vienna could use some interesting make-over.

Quote from: Martinus on September 06, 2015, 12:12:00 AM
She looks like a "bruja" so that's a plus as well - Vienna could use some interesting make-over.

So could Delaware. :(

Quote from: celedhring on September 05, 2015, 03:19:23 PM

Quote from: Zanza on September 05, 2015, 02:45:41 PM
I would usually vote for the guy with the beer but as I have the misfortune to know he is an asshole, I went with the last woman.

Yeah, he looks a bit of a tosser. I hope he's FPÖ or something idiotic like that.

If I am right that's Strache, Führer of the FPÖ.

The beer man is a Nazi, isn't he? Somehow I'm getting that vibe from him, I think I've seen him before.

Quote from: Zanza on September 06, 2015, 12:49:02 AM
If I am right that's Strache, Führer of the FPÖ.

That would explain it. You pre-empted my previous post.

He kinda looks like the dude who beats up homeless people for fun on Mr Robot.

(https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/tyrell.jpg?w=301&h=202&crop=1)

He looks like a beer drinking ferret.

Is the dude posing in front of the beer taps a Nazi too?

Quote from: Martinus on September 06, 2015, 12:12:00 AM
Voted the last chick, on account of "least likely to be a nazi". She looks like a "bruja" so that's a plus as well - Vienna could use some interesting make-over.

A female shaman from an indigenous Mexican tribe? :unsure:

I voted for Dennis Hopper.

From top to bottom:

- Turgay Taskiran from Gemeinsam für Wien (together for Vienna), a predominantly Turkish immigrant list
- Manfred Juraczka (ÖVP, comparable to Germany's CDU)
- HC Strache (FPÖ - right wing populist)
- Beate Meinl-Reisinger from NEOS (small government, pro-deregulation libertarians)
- Juliana ,,Juli" Okropiridse from Wien ANDAS, a joint list of Communist, Pirates, former Green party etc
- Manfred Häupl (SPÖ - social democrats and current mayor)
- Heinz Pollischansky from WWW - Wir Wollen Wahlfreiheit (We Want Freedom of Choice), a list founded by pub and restaurant owners who are against the 2018 smoking ban
- Maria Vassilakou (Greens, currently in coalition with SPÖ in Vienna and #2 behind Häupl)

Additionally, there's some parties that only compete in one or a few districts, but not all of Vienna, e.g.:
- EU-Austrittspartei (Party for Leaving the EU), competing in all districts except the 1st
- Männerpartei (21st and 22nd districts, for "true equality of the genders")
- Freie Demokraten (somewhere between NEOS and FPÖ)
- RKOB - Equal Rights for Muslims
- Socialist Leftist Party

The WWW is the only small group that didn't go through the signature collection process normally required for registering for the election but instead secured (some would say: bought) 5 support signatures from members of federal parliament that are part of Team Stronach (Frank Stronach, an Austrian born Canadian billionaire, bought created his own party for the last federal elections ... it was a weird, comical, sad process, and the group has all but fallen apart by now, in large because Stronach's guidance has been contradictory, erratic and his interviews were PR nightmares).

Meanwhile, the FPÖ is calling for an October 'Revolution' to break 50+ years of SPÖ government.

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FPÖ's most recent coup is getting Ursual Stenzel to join them. She has been with ÖVP and is the district mayor of the Inner City. She's the embodiment of the 1950s/60s faux-aristocratic bourgeoisie. She wanted to bar political demonstrations from the Ringstraße, ban night traffic in the Inner City, remove all beggars/street musicians from the Inner City (and replace them with music academy students), she introduced diapers for the horses pulling the famous carriages, and wanted to introduce legislation that was aimed at getting backpacking tourists out of her part of town (among many other things). The ÖVP didn't want her for another round, so she left the party and will ride on the FPÖ list instead, saying that she hasn't changed but that the ÖVP has become too liberal. People are not sure if this move will help/hinder her or the FPÖ.

Ursula Stenzel:
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Current Gallup (5th September) poll sees SPÖ at 34%, FPÖ at 32%, Greens at 13%, ÖVP at 11%, NEOS at 6%, other at 4. That would make a continuation of the current coalition possible, though it might be a minority government tolerated by NEOS. While ÖVP/FPÖ might join up, I doubt NEOS would go with an FPÖ coalition. FPÖ has declared they'd be willing to work with SPÖ, which the SPÖ has already rejected.

Strache for even more balkan techno pop to grab South Slavic votes! Will be difficult to please both Serbs and Croats but he can pull it. :)

[spoiler]Only Syt will understand the first part[/spoiler]

Diapers for horses?  :lol:

Quote from: The Larch on September 06, 2015, 06:04:08 AM
Diapers for horses?  :lol:

She sounds like a nutcase, but her positions don't sound particularly populist to me.

Quote from: Zanza on September 06, 2015, 12:49:02 AM

Quote from: celedhring on September 05, 2015, 03:19:23 PM

Quote from: Zanza on September 05, 2015, 02:45:41 PM
I would usually vote for the guy with the beer but as I have the misfortune to know he is an asshole, I went with the last woman.

Yeah, he looks a bit of a tosser. I hope he's FPÖ or something idiotic like that.

If I am right that's Strache, Führer of the FPÖ.

Yeah, somehow that pic got my nazi sense tingling.

Quote from: Ideologue on September 06, 2015, 03:35:42 AM

Quote from: Martinus on September 06, 2015, 12:12:00 AM
Voted the last chick, on account of "least likely to be a nazi". She looks like a "bruja" so that's a plus as well - Vienna could use some interesting make-over.

A female shaman from an indigenous Mexican tribe? :unsure:

I voted for Dennis Hopper.

It means "witch" in Spanish and she looks vaguely Hispanic and witch-y. But the female shaman works too. I like people like this.

Spanish witches don't look like that.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmujer100.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F06%2Faramis-fuster_dasahuciada.jpg&hash=60fe4cdece6b733ee8958d85b9dad05331788493)

That's what a Spanish witch looks like.

Spanish bitches look like Rebeca Linares pre-boobjob.

Quote from: The Brain on September 06, 2015, 09:29:57 AM
Spanish bitches look like Rebeca Linares pre-boobjob.

Well, she probably doesn't float on water now.

FPÖ have meanwhile presented their new theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=206&v=TTujeCZoiyo

As usual, their campaign platform is a bit nebulous. I find their main characteristic is - as usual - being against stuff, without having their own concept of how to do things.

Let me guess: you're against them? :rolleyes:

Quote from: Syt on September 06, 2015, 03:42:17 AM
- Juliana ,,Juli" Okropiridse from Wien ANDAS, a joint list of Communist, Pirates, former Green party etc

I knew she was a fascist communist nutcase!

So, there's a test you can do to see which party you should vote for (in German): http://www.wahlkabine.at/

I ended up with ANDAS and Greens with more than twice the score of SPÖ/NEOS, and ÖVP/FPÖ in the negative scores. :o  :ph34r: :Embarrass:

Quote from: Syt on September 14, 2015, 06:37:03 AM
So, there's a test you can do to see which party you should vote for (in German): http://www.wahlkabine.at/

I ended up with ANDAS and Greens with more than twice the score of SPÖ/NEOS, and ÖVP/FPÖ in the negative scores. :o  :ph34r: :Embarrass:

Der Vergleich hat ergeben, dass Sie mit folgender Partei die meisten Übereinstimmungen aufweisen:

FPÖ

Im Diagramm unten sehen Sie, in welchem Ausmaß Ihre Standpunkte mit jenen der Parteien übereinstimmen.

Übereinstimmung
FPÖ  250
ÖVP  154
  -45 NEOS
  -93 SPÖ
  -139 Grüne
  -187 ANDAS


I officialy hate Syt now.  :P

I got 24 for NEOS, though I'm not sure what half the questions were asking...

"Believed to be the municipal government at the federal level for property taxes used?"

QuoteIf the City of Vienna to expand the sex ban zones?

:hmm:

Juliana Okropiridse because I'd hit it.

ANDAS 235
Grüne 220
NEOS 110
SPÖ 60
-95 ÖVP
-125 FPÖ

Admittedly, I could see myself voting differently on some of the city-specific questions if I knew the context / current position.

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 14, 2015, 09:28:35 AM
I got 24 for NEOS, though I'm not sure what half the questions were asking...

"Believed to be the municipal government at the federal level for property taxes used?"

The question is "Should Vienna push for a federal wealth tax?"

Quote from: Martinus on September 14, 2015, 09:39:00 AM

QuoteIf the City of Vienna to expand the sex ban zones?

:hmm:

:P

"Should there be more territorial restrictions on prostitution?"

Explanation: currently Vienna allows street based prostitutes, i.e. ones not operating in a club/brothel/escort service, to only operate in certain areas, a handful of streets, really - some people call for a further reduction of the permitted streets.

The Greens were criticized by the Advertising Watchgroup Graz which brings attention to sexism in advertising (normally its Vienna counterpart would handle complaints, but as they're publically funded, Graz took over to avoid conflict of interest):

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The slogan is a play on "I'm open for anything" Open = offen; Öffi is short for public transport.

The Watchgroup says, "The arrangement of the smiling man with the slogan suggests that he's open for sexual adventures and therefore sexualizes the man. This is increased by showing lipstick marks all over his face."

Good, men are sexual.

When you said "offen", did you mean "offen" – a person who has lost his parents, or "offen", frequently?

Quote from: Valmy on September 15, 2015, 02:27:58 PM
When you said "offen", did you mean "offen" – a person who has lost his parents, or "offen", frequently?

:rolleyes:

Quote from: Syt on September 15, 2015, 02:31:43 PM

Quote from: Valmy on September 15, 2015, 02:27:58 PM
When you said "offen", did you mean "offen" – a person who has lost his parents, or "offen", frequently?

:rolleyes:

What? You hate Gilbert and Sullivan references?

Quote from: Valmy on September 15, 2015, 02:32:16 PM

Quote from: Syt on September 15, 2015, 02:31:43 PM

Quote from: Valmy on September 15, 2015, 02:27:58 PM
When you said "offen", did you mean "offen" – a person who has lost his parents, or "offen", frequently?

:rolleyes:

What? You hate Gilbert and Sullivan references?

With a passion. :ultra:

At least it's not a Gilbert Gottfried reference.

Quote from: Barrister on September 15, 2015, 02:49:40 PM
With a passion. :ultra:

:(

FPÖ's Strache said in a TV interview after the elections in Upper Austria, "that it has become clear that we can become the strongest political force there [Vienna] for the first time in 70 years."

While I guess what he meant was to say that they have a chance to break the SPÖ rule of the city for the first time in 70 years, some commentators ask if he sees the FPÖ as successor of the Nazi party ...

So here are the candidates for being mayor of my district:

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Gabriele Zahrer, SPÖ (Social Democrats)

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Maximilian Krauss, FPÖ. He said "Vienna must not become Chicago" in reference to the crime rates, and obviously refers to prohibition time Chicago. Funny thing about the FPÖ is how they stress "massively rising crime" - Vienna is one of the safest cities of its size, but the subjective security feeling for many people is lower. He also called the mayor of Vienna "Türkenbürgermeister," and apologized for it later on.

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Veronika Mickel-Göttfert, ÖVP (conservatives). The incumbent, and from what I can see doing a pretty decent job of taking all views into account and connecting to the people in the district (easy when you're in the smallest district, population-wise; we have about 20k people, the largest has almost 10 times as many).

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Alexander Spitzendorfer, Greens.

(https://wien.neos.eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2015/01/yannick_klein.jpg)
Yannick Shetty, NEOS (free market libertarians).

(https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/12032034_1643976035885992_5807811798061663895_n.jpg?oh=787df4d03a9dbe97e460f3cd5c4a7c6d&oe=565E1714&__gda__=1452383512_da0567933493c7f0ce7da31df6ab3647)
Gabriele Diner (right), Wir Wollen Wahlfreiheit (a list created exclusively to force a referendum on the 2018 smoking ban in restaurants, bars, cafés).

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwienanders.at%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F07%2Fprofil_fuxbauer.jpg&hash=f642f97c59409737976ec2e0146d712dd68d861f)
Herbert Fuxbauer, Wien Andas (coalition of Pirate Party, communists, "Real Greens," independents)

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Heribert Rahdjiean, ECHT. Wasn't member of the Greens but was on their list in 2005 was district mayor 2005-2010. Generally aimed at sustainability, pro small businesses, and increasing quality of life in the district (the 8th was rated district with highest QoL in Austria in a magazine's study last year).

Max looks like he might have been touched with the tar brush himself.

Chicago style "pizza" sucks.

Regional pizzas should be abolished, along with regions that have any skyscrapers.

Quote from: Ideologue on September 29, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
Regional pizzas should be abolished, along with regions that have any skyscrapers.

Oh god, you're adopting a new mania?

I feel like I've mentioned my animus against cities before. :unsure:

I'd like to live in a skyscraper one day.

I would not.

I'll hold out for an arcology.

Oh I would love to live in one of those fancy gentrified condos downtown. It would be fantastic, the Austinite dream. Maybe someday.

Voted for number 5.

Number 1 photo is dead.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/world/europe/rise-of-austrian-right-lengthens-shadow-of-nazi-era.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=3&referer=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FcFaZWH6Lfc

QuoteRise of Austrian Right Lengthens Shadow of Nazi Era

VIENNA — As befits the city of Sigmund Freud, Vienna has two faces — one sweet, one sinister.

Behind the schnitzel and strudel, Mozart and the opera, lurks the legacy of the Nazis who forced Jews to clean sidewalks with toothbrushes. In 1988, to much controversy, Vienna placed Alfred Hrdlicka's "Memorial Against War and Fascism," featuring a sculpture of a Jewish man cleaning the street, right behind the State Opera, lest Austria again forget.

Now, to the astonishment of many and the alarm of some, the burning question in Vienna's elegant cafes is, Which face will prevail in the city's bellwether elections on Oct. 11?

Roughly one in four of Austria's 8.7 million residents lives in Vienna. For almost the last century — aside from the Nazi years, 1938-45 — the left has ruled "Red Vienna," long prized for its pioneering public housing and welfare, and its cultural ferment.

But against the backdrop of Europe's refugee drama, the far-right Freedom Party is threatening the Social Democrats' hold in what may portend a more general rise in populist, anti-immigrant sentiment across the Continent.

Riding a wave of anxiety over the tens of thousands of migrants entering Austria this month, the Freedom Party finished second, with just over 30 percent of the vote, in regional elections in northern Austria on Sunday.

The Freedom Party's strident anti-Islam message seems to have struck a chord in a city whose palaces speak of the bygone glory of a multiethnic European empire, and whose public spaces now attest to increasing diversity and a Muslim population of some 12 percent.

"We don't want an Islamization of Europe," the party leader, Heinz-Christian Strache, told Austria's public broadcaster as he began his campaign to be Vienna's mayor. "We don't want our Christian-Western culture to perish."

In Germany, such sentiments exist on the fringe of politics. In Austria, which never underwent denazification programs after 1945, the Freedom Party has morphed from its roots in groups of former Nazis to a xenophobic message that it blends with concern for the little guy. It is a message that the party's charismatic leader, Jörg Haider, rode briefly into national government, and it has thrived beyond his death in a car crash in 2008.

In the last Vienna elections, in 2010, the Freedom Party vaulted to more than 25 percent of the vote, a gain of over 10 percentage points. By this summer, opinion polls suggested, the far-right party had pulled almost level with the Social Democrats, who got 44 percent in 2010. Both now hover just above 30 percent.

The causes are manifold, including unemployment that has risen to more than 10 percent and dissatisfaction with the longtime mayor, Michael Häupl. His working-class base is eroding; others fault him for failing to end cozy patronage systems that favor the powerful over the poor.

What everyone is wondering now is what effect the migrants will have.

Thousands of Viennese have greeted tens of thousands of refugees arriving from Hungary this month. The national government, which had long flailed on the issue, found a firm voice and strongly criticized Budapest for putting refugees on trains that led them not west to Austria, but to a camp in Hungary. This, said Chancellor Werner Faymann, a Social Democrat, "brings up memories of our Continent's darkest period."

Like Germany, Austria loudly advocates asylum for refugees. Its projected total of applicants, many from the Middle East, is 80,000 this year, meaning that, like Germany's, its population may grow by 1 percent.

But its image as a caretaker for waves of refugees over decades — Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, East Germans and former Yugoslavs escaping Communism or war — suffered this summer. Its main refugee center at Traiskirchen was found to be squalid, with inadequate medical care and more than 1,000 people sleeping in the open. When the authorities refused to admit a group from Doctors Without Borders, leftists seethed.

When a reporter visited the camp in late August, conditions had improved, although tents still provided shelter for 1,200 of the 3,000 people there. Austrians shocked by the conditions had brought so many clothes, toys and other goods that containers overflowed with rejects.

Opponents of the far right hope events — the greeting of the migrants and the discovery of 71 corpses in a truck abandoned by smugglers — have turned the tables on Mr. Strache.

"These are experiences which will not be forgotten so quickly," said Georg Hoffmann-Ostenhof, a columnist for the center-left weekly Profil. Indeed, Austria's tabloids switched from headlines about the chaos brought by refugees to images of warm welcomes, although the arrival of tens of thousands may strain slender resources.

Not everyone is optimistic. "The people are ready to help," said Hans Rauscher, a columnist for the Vienna newspaper Der Standard. "But don't kid yourself. You only have to listen to the gossip in the bars" to know that anti-Muslim feeling runs high.

Far-right supporters are often reticent around foreigners, and Freedom Party leaders generally shun what they view as critical news outlets. But a Vienna activist took a reporter to a "Speakers' Corner" in a district where the Freedom Party vote has grown steadily.

To judge by this gathering of about 30 of the party faithful, the left has little to fear. The microphone and speakers' platform never showed up; the event was a washout.

It did, however, provide a rare opportunity to talk to just over a half-dozen people in their 20s about why they support the far right. They railed against corruption, poor city transportation and the fears of older adults who, they said, could not venture out at night. They kept a disciplined focus on local affairs. "That's national level," said Stephan Promont, 20, when asked about the refugees.

The only national figure present, Harald Stefan, a Freedom Party deputy in Parliament, made clear his sympathy for Hungary's tough stance. "The Germans were to blame," he said of the refugee surge that followed a message on Twitter from a German official widely read as saying all Syrians could enter. "You can't blame Hungary for that."

The Freedom Party's campaign, titled "October Revolution," preserves the jingoism the party has made its own. "Vienna should not become Chicago" was a favorite slogan back in the 1990s. This year, one motto is "Respect for our culture instead of false tolerance" for anything un-Austrian.

Some immigrants are acceptable: For Mr. Strache, "the Serbian Christian Orthodox" — about 100,000 people here — "are his allies against the Turks," Mr. Rauscher said.

To counter Mr. Strache, the Social Democrats compiled a "Blue Book" of his deeds and speeches. In the introduction, Mayor Häupl writes: "History books tell us enough about where things can lead if demagogues get power. We want to make sure that no new chapters have to be written. That is why the coming elections in Vienna are decisive, and not just for our city."

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FPÖ has an ad campaign online and in papers offering €5000.- reward for anyone who can provide proof of election fraud (election fraud hasn't been an issue in recent elections, though FPÖ always doubts the veracity of the mail in votes which can swing seats).

Meanwhile, the FPÖ said that if any elderly or infirm voters need help getting to the voting stations, they can offer volunteers to help them.

For tomorrow they advertise an event the "risks of migration" (though "Völkerwanderung" is generally the German term for the waves of migration in the late Roman Empire). you can read about their special guest here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thilo_Sarrazin

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On Saturday, tens of thousands marched in support of refugees, with over 100,000 attending a free pro-refugee concert at Heldenplatz afterwards.

And a footnote figure: ~25% of the adult population of Vienna will not be allowed to vote for the city council, because they're not Austrians.

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The party that won every election since the war won again!

Sonstige. :(

The result is more decisive than was expected, but the FPÖ still has the best result ever. It looks like Red-Green will continue (though a coalition of the Social Democrats with the Conservative ÖVP would also be possible).

There might still be some minor changes; there was a record 200,000 applications for mail in votes, so the final results will be in tomorrow. It appears NEOS picked up a lot of protest votes from people who couldn't bring themselves to vote FPÖ.

Quote from: Syt on October 11, 2015, 01:41:28 PM
It appears NEOS picked up a lot of protest votes from people who couldn't bring themselves to vote FPÖ.

Just read their Wiki article and they sound like a party that I could vote for.

Bit of an upset in the Inner City, traditionally a conservative district. With the, uhm, problematic distric mayor getting kicked out by ÖVP and starting for FPÖ this time, ÖVP lost half their votes, while SPÖ picked up and won the majority. FPÖ only gained half the votes that the ÖVP shed.

The results for the district councils aren't in yet, but this should be interesting to watch. It looks like FPÖ won two districts: Simmering and Floridsdorf, both blue collar areas, but with low migrant population compared to, say, Favoriten. In Favoriten the SPÖ and FPÖ are currently one hundredth of a percent apart, so mail in votes will probably make the decision there.

Votes for FPÖ by district:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Forf.at%2Fstatic%2Fimages%2Fsite%2Fnews%2F20151041%2Fwien_wahl_politlandkarte_grafik_fpoe_2015_o.4647732.png&hash=c4bd7a83e3896161434cfbe2dd2ab30649e7ba9b)

A couple more notes:

The SPÖ scored well among voters of all education levels (ca. 30-40%), whereas the FPÖ rated very well with low education groups and under 15% among academics. The Greens show the opposite result.

SPÖ also scores about the same with blue collar and white collar workers, whereas the FPÖ is strongly biased towards blue collar workers.

25% of the SPÖ voters said their main reason for voting Social Democrat was to keep the FPÖ from power.

Among people of migrant background the SPÖ gained almost 50% of the vote, the FPÖ almost 25%.

Middle and upper middle class votes are splintered. Traditionally, the ÖVP would gain their votes (esp. business owners or self employed), but that has eroded as their traditional voters quite literally died off - young people vote Red, Blue, Green, old people ÖVP. A lot of the "classic" clintele for ÖVP now votes Green, Red, Neos, or not at all.

My district retains an ÖVP majority in District council, with 5, 10, 15% lead on Greens, SPÖ and FPÖ respectively. Not surprising - the district mayor is a young energetic woman who took many points from Greens and SPÖ into her agenda and has a very good track record for improving things over the last 5 years. Almost all her motions were accepted unanimously, but the district councils are usually much more cooperative than the city parliament.

Inner City is for the first time since World War 2 not ruled by the ÖVP after the, uhm, colorful Ursula Stenzel was kicked out of ÖVP and joined the FPÖ. She still considered it a moral victory since she claims it was only due to her that FPÖ doubled their votes there (which is probably true, but didn't nearly make up for the votes the ÖVP lost without her).

And especially interesting: 2/3 of FPÖ voters find Vienna to be a city with very low quality of life.

Eh? Doesn't Vienna usually come up in the top 5 in those global most liveable city rankings?

Quote from: Zanza on October 12, 2015, 06:06:10 AM
Eh? Doesn't Vienna usually come up in the top 5 in those global most liveable city rankings?

Yes, but to be fair, those are usually aimed at corporations sending expats, which is not exactly the demographic FPÖ is aiming at. A lot of FPÖ voters are low income people, often living in public housing (where the amount of immigrants is increasing) with limited economic perspective.

The final results are in, and the mail in votes caused some changes:

- FPÖ loses a seat in city parliament to the Greens

In district councils:

- Inner City retains an ÖVP majority after all (obviously a lot of elderly mailed in their votes)
- Floridsdorf remains Social Democrat instead of flipping to FPÖ
- Währing switches from ÖVP to Greens

Looking at the vote counts of city parliament vs. districts, it seems many EU citizens mailed in their votes and chose SPÖ or Greens (EU citizens can vote for district council, but not for city parliament).

Quote from: Syt on October 13, 2015, 02:37:31 AM

Looking at the vote counts of city parliament vs. districts, it seems many EU citizens mailed in their votes and chose SPÖ or Greens (EU citizens can vote for district council, but not for city parliament).

So Croats do not count as EU citizens anymore or what?  FPÖ-sponsored Balkan electro pop was sure to get their votes.  :P

FPÖ is courting the naturalized Serbs, not the Croats. Many of Serb background are voting FPÖ, because "as Serbs we have experience with Muslims." FPÖ is generally regarded as very Serb-friendly.

Actually a guy on EUOT the other day asked who Strache was, because he keeps getting quoted in Serb media ("Austria says, ...").

So were we both wrong, was it FPÖ-sponsored Serbian Balkan electro pop?  :hmm: