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Title: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: Valmy on August 13, 2015, 11:08:35 AM
http://www.texastribune.org/2015/08/13/ut-will-remove-jefferson-davis-statue/

Somewhere George Washington Breckenridge is smiling (the pro-Union philanthropic father of UT, his big rival was George Washington Littlefield who put all the statues in). I am glad this day finally came I always had to powerfully restrain the desire to vandalize that statue every time I walked past it.

QuoteJust days after an advisory panel recommended the University of Texas at Austin relocate some or all of its statues of Confederate leaders, UT-Austin President Gregory Fenves announced that the statue of Confederate President Jefferson Davis will soon have a new home.

UT is relocating the Davis statue to an exhibit in the Dolph Briscoe Center for American History. Four other statues the panel considered relocating — including ones of Confederate generals Robert E. Lee and Albert Sidney Johnston —  will remain on the university's South Mall, but Fenves will consider adding explanatory plaques to place them in historical context.

"While every historical figure leaves a mixed legacy, I believe Jefferson Davis is in a separate category," Fenves wrote in a letter to the UT-Austin community, "and that it is not in the university's best interest to continue commemorating him. Davis had few ties to Texas; he played a unique role in the history of the American South that is best explained and understood through an educational exhibit."

In a museum. Just where all that shit belongs.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: derspiess on August 13, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
I think a Jefferson Davis statue has a place on public display.  They just need to depict him as he was dressed when he tried to escape in 1865-- as a woman.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: lustindarkness on August 13, 2015, 11:43:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 13, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
I think a Jefferson Davis statue has a place on public display.  They just need to depict him as he was dressed when he tried to escape in 1865-- as a woman.

You are into some weird kinky stuff.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: derspiess on August 13, 2015, 11:44:20 AM
Sounds like I hit a nerve.  Someone's gone local!












:P
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: lustindarkness on August 13, 2015, 12:01:07 PM
I'm just not into drag queens.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: derspiess on August 13, 2015, 12:14:38 PM
See previous post.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: The Minsky Moment on August 13, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
Nothing wrong with honoring Jeff Davis' impressive contributions to the Union cause.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: The Brain on August 13, 2015, 12:23:30 PM
I'm shocked that a country founded on treason has a soft spot for traitors.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 13, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
Someone somewhere will still be mad about it.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: Valmy on August 13, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 13, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
Someone somewhere will still be mad about it.

Oh they are. It is censorship to move a statue into a museum.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: derspiess on August 13, 2015, 12:33:55 PM
They'll just need to put a huge trigger warning on the entrance the the museum and the problem will be fixed.  Trigger warnings fix everything.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: alfred russel on August 13, 2015, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 13, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
I think a Jefferson Davis statue has a place on public display.  They just need to depict him as he was dressed when he tried to escape in 1865-- as a woman.

That would be transphobic.  :P
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: Lettow77 on August 13, 2015, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 13, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
I think a Jefferson Davis statue has a place on public display.  They just need to depict him as he was dressed when he tried to escape in 1865-- as a woman.

That's not really how it happened, though.

Poor Jefferson Davis- Lee or even Forrest will find their ready adherents, but precious and few are those who will carry water for His Excellency.  He was a stiff man and a vain man, hard to love but one who treasured his friends greatly, was a tireless public servant, a skilled orator, a capable statesman and military mind.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: PDH on August 13, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
And he supported Braxton Bragg!
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: Lettow77 on August 13, 2015, 07:24:31 PM
He treasured his friends greatly, after all. He was really wrongheaded about it, but his position was such that he had a certain amount of understandable sympathy for unpopular leaders doing basically as they should and being criticized from below.

When he sent Joseph Johnston out there to look at the situation with a view to taking command himself, ole goober had nothing but praise for Bragg. What can you do?
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 15, 2015, 05:27:39 AM
They've postponed the move while they wait for a judge to make a decision on a restraining order.  Those dudes who lost the license plate thing are involved.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: Valmy on August 15, 2015, 10:04:11 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 15, 2015, 05:27:39 AM
They've postponed the move while they wait for a judge to make a decision on a restraining order.  Those dudes who lost the license plate thing are involved.

Ah the joys of being a public entity.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: Scipio on August 16, 2015, 08:07:47 PM
As a Mississippian, I can say this: fuck Jefferson Davis.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: dps on August 16, 2015, 11:26:40 PM
That's some hard-core necrophilia there, Scips.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: alfred russel on August 16, 2015, 11:38:24 PM
As college football season is about to start, it should be said the Yankees aren't the only visitors that have been winning on the UT campus in recent years.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: alfred russel on August 16, 2015, 11:40:13 PM
I was going to extend the above post to say something about it being the reconstruction era for UT football, there is even a black guy in charge!, but I thought better of it.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: Valmy on August 17, 2015, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 16, 2015, 11:38:24 PM
As college football season is about to start, it should be said the Yankees aren't the only visitors that have been winning on the UT campus in recent years.

At least with the opening game this year they are invading the north! I expect a Gettysburg-type result.
Title: Re: Yankees finally win Civil War on UT Campus
Post by: alfred russel on August 17, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 17, 2015, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 16, 2015, 11:38:24 PM
As college football season is about to start, it should be said the Yankees aren't the only visitors that have been winning on the UT campus in recent years.

At least with the opening game this year they are invading the north! I expect a Gettysburg-type result.

We are enemies for that one.  :)

In all seriousness, the first game of the season, its a total wildcard what could happen. I tend to feel good about ND's chances though. With a mobile QB in a Brian Kelly system, ND should be able to get some offense, and the UT offense needs to make some really big strides from last year to get to mediocre.