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Title: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 10:56:01 AM
On June 18th, 1865 the Yankee army of occupation victorious army of the Union came to crush states rights and impose law by bayonet oust the illegal rebel crew from government and liberate Texans from their property the crushing bonds of slavery.

And here is a photo of our famous oppressor liberator General Gordon Granger, the most famous New Yorker in Texas history.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Gordon_Granger_-_Brady-Handy.jpg/220px-Gordon_Granger_-_Brady-Handy.jpg)
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: The Brain on June 18, 2015, 11:00:17 AM
What a mess.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 18, 2015, 11:00:17 AM
What a mess.

What could be messy about liberation and freedom?
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Lettow77 on June 18, 2015, 11:09:56 AM
 More famous than Hank Hill?
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 11:16:05 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on June 18, 2015, 11:09:56 AM
More famous than Hank Hill?

Well got me there (nice reference btw :P).

But the real point here is I get tommorow off to celebrate. I don't see any holidays to celebrate Hank Hills 150th birthday.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2015, 11:18:06 AM
Texas has a public holiday for getting beaten?
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: derspiess on June 18, 2015, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on June 18, 2015, 11:09:56 AM
More famous than Hank Hill?

Nope, Hank is way famouser.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fa7bMhf5BHzs%2Fhqdefault.jpg&hash=639d7fc98cd3b755d32b6e2e3eb88fb337c76d7b)




yes, I know that is Dale Gribble, aka Rusty Shackleford in the pic
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 11:22:06 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2015, 11:18:06 AM
Texas has a public holiday for getting beaten?

Yep. Well actually it is for the next day June 19th when said New Yorker issued his General Order No. 3 for the reconstruction of Texas:

QuoteThe people of Texas are informed that, in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the United States, all slaves are free. This involves an absolute equality of personal rights and rights of property between former masters and slaves, and the connection heretofore existing between them becomes that between employer and hired labor. The freedmen are advised to remain quietly at their present homes and work for wages. They are informed that they will not be allowed to collect at military posts and that they will not be supported in idleness either there or elsewhere.

So in that context you understand why we are celebrating our defeat and occupation.

And by that I of course mean our victory over a small rebel clique who were not representative in any way and liberation from slavery :P
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Barrister on June 18, 2015, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on June 18, 2015, 11:09:56 AM
More famous than Hank Hill?

*checks the google machine*

Well I'll be.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Zanza on June 18, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
200 years ago today Wellington and Blücher defeated Napoleon in Waterloo.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
200 years ago today Wellington and Blücher defeated Napoleon in Waterloo.

Merde!
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: KRonn on June 18, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
Happy Liberation day Texas!   :unsure:
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 12:48:12 PM
Quote from: KRonn on June 18, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
Happy Liberation day Texas!   :unsure:

:yeah:
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 18, 2015, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
200 years ago today Wellington and Blücher defeated Napoleon in Waterloo.

Merde!

Du calme !
75 years ago was De Gaulle's Appeal of 18 June.  :frog:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_of_18_June (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_of_18_June)
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: The Brain on June 18, 2015, 01:02:11 PM
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
200 years ago today Wellington and Blücher defeated Napoleon in Waterloo.

In Waterloo?
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: lustindarkness on June 18, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
1812 - The United States declares war on Great Britain for impressment of Sailors and interference with commerce.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 18, 2015, 01:09:35 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 18, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
1812 - The United States declares war on Great Britain for impressment of Sailors and interference with commerce.

and gets beaten :p

Three cheers for Wellington for delivering is us from French oppression!
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 18, 2015, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
200 years ago today Wellington and Blücher defeated Napoleon in Waterloo.

Merde!

Du calme !
75 years ago was De Gaulle's Appeal of 18 June.  :frog:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_of_18_June (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_of_18_June)

Man this is quite the momentous date -_-
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 18, 2015, 01:09:35 PM
Three cheers for Wellington for delivering is us from French oppression!

And then handed you over to the Dutch. That went well.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: frunk on June 18, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
In honor of Napoleon's defeat I'm watching Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 18, 2015, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 18, 2015, 01:09:35 PM
Three cheers for Wellington for delivering is us from French oppression!

And then handed you over to the Dutch. That went well.

better the dutch than the French or francophones
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 18, 2015, 03:36:46 PM
better the dutch than the French or francophones

The French have only your best interests at heart. Talleyrand was ready to solve all your problems.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 02:01:13 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 18, 2015, 03:36:46 PM
better the dutch than the French or francophones

The French have only your best interests at heart. Talleyrand was ready to solve all your problems.

hardly. The Congress should have dismantled France after 1815.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 02:01:13 AM
hardly. The Congress should have dismantled France after 1815.

Unless you also think they should have murdered every single citizen I don't see how that would have helped your issue. :hmm:

But you are a Euro nationalist so I shouldn't assume you don't :P

But, of course, I was talking about Talleyrand's plan to have Flanders become independent and Wallonia to be annexed by France.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 19, 2015, 08:52:57 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 18, 2015, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
200 years ago today Wellington and Blücher defeated Napoleon in Waterloo.

Merde!

Du calme !
75 years ago was De Gaulle's Appeal of 18 June.  :frog:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_of_18_June (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_of_18_June)

Man this is quite the momentous date -_-

Germany has even better with November 9th

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_9_in_German_history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_9_in_German_history)
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 18, 2015, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 18, 2015, 01:09:35 PM
Three cheers for Wellington for delivering is us from French oppression!

And then handed you over to the Dutch. That went well.

better the dutch than the French or francophones
and 200 years later, you still haven't solved your problems.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 08:49:33 AM

But, of course, I was talking about Talleyrand's plan to have Flanders become independent and Wallonia to be annexed by France.

After -of course- stealing another sizeable piece of what is today Flanders. Cause that is what France does: stealing land in attempt to reach the Rhine and it's "natural borders".
One has to admire him though: being an official of a thorougly beaten country and still trying to expand. Balls of steel.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
and 200 years later, you still haven't solved your problems.

Cause we're still stuck with francophones: thanks to frenchies meddling in 1830.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Grey Fox on June 19, 2015, 10:08:43 AM
Stuck?

That's no way to describe your betters that are trying to bring enlightment to your region.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: derspiess on June 19, 2015, 10:49:31 AM
Happy Juneteenth!  :cheers:
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
and 200 years later, you still haven't solved your problems.

Cause we're still stuck with francophones: thanks to frenchies meddling in 1830.

Ah, I don't think it is fair.  If you haven't reached independance yet, it's because lots of your compatriots don't see the point to it.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
and 200 years later, you still haven't solved your problems.

Cause we're still stuck with francophones: thanks to frenchies meddling in 1830.

Ah, I don't think it is fair.  If you haven't reached independance yet, it's because lots of your compatriots don't see the point to it.
more because they've got Stockholmsyndrome, but the end result is the same.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 10:01:30 AM
After -of course- stealing another sizeable piece of what is today Flanders. Cause that is what France does: stealing land in attempt to reach the Rhine and it's "natural borders".
One has to admire him though: being an official of a thorougly beaten country and still trying to expand. Balls of steel.

France was thoroughly beaten in 1830? :unsure:
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 01:35:36 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
and 200 years later, you still haven't solved your problems.

Cause we're still stuck with francophones: thanks to frenchies meddling in 1830.


Britain and Prussia also meddled. Everybody meddled. Yes a major strategic piece of land in Europe was up for grabs and literally nobody cared except France. Yeah. Sure.

The French did not want you stuck with the Francophones. They wanted the Francophones.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2015, 10:49:31 AM
Happy Juneteenth!  :cheers:

Indeed :cheers:

The Union Forever!
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 19, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
and 200 years later, you still haven't solved your problems.

Cause we're still stuck with francophones: thanks to frenchies meddling in 1830.

Ah, I don't think it is fair.  If you haven't reached independance yet, it's because lots of your compatriots don't see the point to it.

Indeed. Everybody is mixed up now and there is that European Union thing so everybody is supposed to be happy Europeans and all that.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Razgovory on June 19, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2015, 10:49:31 AM
Happy Juneteenth!  :cheers:

At least someone brought it up.  This is why we need Seedy.  Most of you are no better the Dylann Roof.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 03:08:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
At least someone brought it up.  This is why we need Seedy.  Most of you are no better the Dylann Roof.

The whole point of the thread was to celebrate Junteenth :unsure:
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Razgovory on June 19, 2015, 03:16:30 PM
Juneteenth is the 19th.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Norgy on June 19, 2015, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2015, 11:22:06 AM


Yep. Well actually it is for the next day June 19th when said New Yorker issued his General Order No. 3 for the reconstruction of Texas:


Still working on that, I hope.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 03:52:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2015, 03:16:30 PM
Juneteenth is the 19th.

Yes I explained that in this thread and quoted the relevant historical document. There is a picture of the dude who issued it. What did you want?
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Razgovory on June 19, 2015, 04:12:19 PM
I didn't know what you on about.  I thought it was some sort of Texas capitulation day or something.
Title: Re: 150 years ago today
Post by: Valmy on June 19, 2015, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2015, 04:12:19 PM
I didn't know what you on about.  I thought it was some sort of Texas capitulation day or something.

That was the joke Raz. This was a 150th Anniversary of Junteenth thread that got hijacked by Euros.