How close are you to poverty?
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2015/06/05/the-poorest-town-in-each-state/ (http://247wallst.com/special-report/2015/06/05/the-poorest-town-in-each-state/)
How close are you to wealth?
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2015/05/12/10-richest-cities-in-america/ (http://247wallst.com/special-report/2015/05/12/10-richest-cities-in-america/)
Too many pages to click through.
So, Berchegarden.
Poorest, 169 miles; 3.5 hours from Rutland, Vermont.
Richest, 373 miles; 6 hours from Scarsdale, New York.
I'm just a few clicks away from poverty. Like, every time I do online banking.
Cairo, IL, is on the bottom tip of Illinois; Wilmette, IL, is near the top; and we're midway between both.
Meri, where is Johnston City IA? Link says it's the richest town in Iowa but I've never heard of it.
Somebody tell me Kentucky. For some reason work web filters blocked the site and I don't feel like disabling WebSense right now. :)
QuoteHarrodsburg, Kentucky
> Town median household income: $29,495
> State median household income: $43,036 (4th lowest)
> Town poverty rate: 23.2%
> Town population: 8,365
In Kentucky, 16.2% of households earned less than $10,000 per year, slightly more than the 7.2% of American households that made less than $10,000 annually. The corresponding figure in Harrodsburg was more than double the national figure at 16.2%. More than 23% of Harrodsburg residents lived below the poverty line, more than double the national poverty rate of 11.3%
Quote from: Caliga on June 10, 2015, 01:08:11 PM
Somebody tell me Kentucky. For some reason work web filters blocked the site and I don't feel like disabling WebSense right now. :)
Poorest: Harrodsburg, $29,495. State median is 43,606.
Richest: seems like they don't give the richest in each state, just the 10 richest in the country.
But if you're interested which of the top 10 you're closest to, it's Winnetka Village Illinois (Chicagoland). $211,250. All the other top tenners are on the coasts. 3 in Jersey, which is perhaps only slightly counterintuitive.
:lol: Harrodsburg most definitely is not the poorest town in Kentucky. It's not even close. The poorest towns are either going to be up in Appalachia (like around Harlan County, where Ed's kinfolk come from), or down in the Purchase (far western Kentucky).
Quote from: Caliga on June 10, 2015, 01:24:49 PM
:lol: Harrodsburg most definitely is not the poorest town in Kentucky. It's not even close. The poorest towns are either going to be up in Appalachia (like around Harlan County, where Ed's kinfolk come from), or down in the Purchase (far western Kentucky).
You doubt the metode og data? :mad:
My guess is that in places like Harlan County poor folk are either a) living in an unincorporated part, or b) living with an extended family, which boosts household income.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 10, 2015, 01:37:19 PM
You doubt the metode og data? :mad:
Sloppy.
They were måling it in.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PM
Sloppy.
They were måling it in.
I'm not falling for your dirty udtryks any more.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 10, 2015, 12:26:33 PM
Meri, where is Johnston City IA? Link says it's the richest town in Iowa but I've never heard of it.
Suburb of Des Moines. Out near West Des Moines.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 10, 2015, 01:37:19 PM
You doubt the metode og data? :mad:
My guess is that in places like Harlan County poor folk are either a) living in an unincorporated part, or b) living with an extended family, which boosts household income.
I don't give a shit what the data says. I've been to Harrodsburg several times and it's not that poor. I've been to much, much poorer areas. There's an area in southeast Kentucky near Lake Cumberland where the rich people live in mobile homes, and the poor people live in rusted out school buses and corrugated metal shacks. I'm totally not joking man. To your point, this was a very rural area most definitely not incorporated, but I've been to poorer towns than Harrodsburg. Examples include London, Corbin, Liberty, Stanford, Lebanon, Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook. :sleep:
This says some town called Crockett is the poorest in the state. Looks like a fun place:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fed%2FDowntown_Crockett%252C_TX_IMG_1000.JPG%2F800px-Downtown_Crockett%252C_TX_IMG_1000.JPG&hash=315e92340829a48cdfc3576ff0506ef79f53e3d1)
The richest towns are burbs of Dallas and Houston. Not a big shocker there.
Crockett looks pretty good based on that pic.
It is the county seat of a poor rural county so all the impoverished in the area go there so they can pick up their welfare checks. My mother's family is from a town like that in Oklahoma and the poor areas are really grim.
I'm as far away from East Cleveland as you can get and still be in Ohio. That does not mean I'm rich, though. Not sure what distance from poorest city is supposed to demonstrate.
Quote from: Valmy on June 10, 2015, 06:57:22 PM
It is the county seat of a poor rural county so all the impoverished in the area go there so they can pick up their welfare checks.
I would have figured the poorest town would be somewhere in/near The Valley.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 10, 2015, 07:05:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 10, 2015, 06:57:22 PM
It is the county seat of a poor rural county so all the impoverished in the area go there so they can pick up their welfare checks.
I would have figured the poorest town would be somewhere in/near The Valley.
Me to but my second guess would have been East Texas :P
One thing that's interesting about the top 10 is that their median incomes are very similar.
Is there some law of nature that says if you dump a bunch of rich people together their median household income will always be around $200 K?
Not to keep belaboring my earlier post, but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beattyville,_Kentucky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beattyville,_Kentucky)
QuoteAs of the census[9] of 2000, there were 1,193 people, 509 households, and 294 families residing in the city. The population density was 599.6 people per square mile (231.5/km²). There were 561 housing units at an average density of 282.0 per square mile (108.8/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 98.99% White, 0.42% African American, 0.42% Asian, and 0.17% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.25% of the population.
There were 509 households out of which 30.1% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 31.8% were married couples living together, 23.0% had a female householder with no husband present, and 42.2% were non-families. 39.7% of all households were made up of individuals and 18.7% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.11 and the average family size was 2.82.
In the city the population was spread out with 23.6% under the age of 18, 9.3% from 18 to 24, 22.3% from 25 to 44, 20.1% from 45 to 64, and 24.6% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 40 years. For every 100 females there were 69.9 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 63.3 males.
The median income for a household in the city was $12,336, and the median income for a family was $21,181. Males had a median income of $28,125 versus $16,250 for females. The per capita income for the city was $13,850. About 39.1% of families and 41.2% of the population were below the poverty line, including 48.7% of those under age 18 and 33.0% of those age 65 or over.
In 2010, Beattyville had the third-lowest median household income of all places in the United States with a population over 1,000.[10]
I very much doubt things have gotten a ton better in Beattyville since the 2000 census. Beattyville is smack dab in the middle of Appalachia, unlike Harrodsburg.
:bleeding:
Quote from: Valmy on June 10, 2015, 06:57:22 PM
My mother's family is from <> Oklahoma
So you're half-Okie? :P
Yeah, I was surprised by Prineville in Oregon since the corporate HQ of Les Schwab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Schwab_Tire_Centers) used to be there, but I suppose most of the money and jobs followed along when they moved to Bend.
There has to be some shit-hole old timber town down south or a break in the desert out east that are poorer than Prineville though.
Quote from: sbr on June 10, 2015, 08:51:18 PM
There has to be some shit-hole old timber town down south or a break in the desert out east that are poorer than Prineville though.
Oh yes. Drive down 97 between Bend and Klamath and you'll see some serious broken down shacks.
Quote from: Caliga on June 10, 2015, 07:48:31 PM
Not to keep belaboring my earlier post, but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beattyville,_Kentucky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beattyville,_Kentucky)
QuoteAs of the census[9] of 2000, there were 1,193 people, 509 households, and 294 families residing in the city. The population density was 599.6 people per square mile (231.5/km²). There were 561 housing units at an average density of 282.0 per square mile (108.8/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 98.99% White, 0.42% African American, 0.42% Asian, and 0.17% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.25% of the population.
There were 509 households out of which 30.1% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 31.8% were married couples living together, 23.0% had a female householder with no husband present, and 42.2% were non-families. 39.7% of all households were made up of individuals and 18.7% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.11 and the average family size was 2.82.
In the city the population was spread out with 23.6% under the age of 18, 9.3% from 18 to 24, 22.3% from 25 to 44, 20.1% from 45 to 64, and 24.6% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 40 years. For every 100 females there were 69.9 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 63.3 males.
The median income for a household in the city was $12,336, and the median income for a family was $21,181. Males had a median income of $28,125 versus $16,250 for females. The per capita income for the city was $13,850. About 39.1% of families and 41.2% of the population were below the poverty line, including 48.7% of those under age 18 and 33.0% of those age 65 or over.
In 2010, Beattyville had the third-lowest median household income of all places in the United States with a population over 1,000.[10]
I very much doubt things have gotten a ton better in Beattyville since the 2000 census. Beattyville is smack dab in the middle of Appalachia, unlike Harrodsburg.
No way Elkins is the poorest town in WV, either--it's got to be some place in the southern coalfields. Interesting bit, though:
QuoteElkins' poverty rate of 15.4% was actually lower than West Virginia's poverty rate of 17.9%.
I can easily believe that the poorest areas are those outside the border of any incorporated municipality. The surprise to me would be that this isn't the norm in all or at least most states.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 10, 2015, 08:10:47 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 10, 2015, 06:57:22 PM
My mother's family is from <> Oklahoma
So you're half-Okie? :P
That side of the family does not reflect well on me.
Before they were Okies they were from Ohio and before that what is now West Virginia and before that Northern Ireland. Just white trash meccas all the way back.
HEY NOW
Blimey, I could buy a three-bedroom house in Kansas on my credit card without blowing my limit.
Quote from: Brazen on June 11, 2015, 09:49:46 AM
Blimey, I could buy a three-bedroom house in Kansas on my credit card without blowing my limit.
and still do your current job.
Why don't you do it?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 10, 2015, 12:26:33 PM
Meri, where is Johnston City IA? Link says it's the richest town in Iowa but I've never heard of it.
What Meri said; a little ways outside of Des Moines. My time out in Iowa was spent with my grandmother in Johnston. Kind of surprised it wasn't Sioux Center, honestly- seems like there's far more economic activity going on out there.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 11, 2015, 01:23:21 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 10, 2015, 12:26:33 PM
Meri, where is Johnston City IA? Link says it's the richest town in Iowa but I've never heard of it.
What Meri said; a little ways outside of Des Moines. My time out in Iowa was spent with my grandmother in Johnston. Kind of surprised it wasn't Sioux Center, honestly- seems like there's far more economic activity going on out there.
:blink:
West Des Moines and the surrounding areas are where all the insurance money from Des Moines goes. DSM is the insurance capital of the Midwest, and there are a ton of huge corporations in the city. None of the employees want to be in DSM-proper, though, so they all head out west, aka Johnston, West Des Moines, Urbandale, Clive, etc. It's been that way since I was a kid. I think West Des Moines is almost as big as DSM-proper now because of it.
And whatever economic boom is going on in Sioux City (I assume you mean, because Sioux Center is a tiny town in the middle of corn and soybeans) isn't going to touch the corporations in DSM. Sioux Falls, SD, however, has a bit of cash from the oil fields, so it may be them that you're thinking of? Regardless, any real money in Iowa is going to be from farming corporations or the insurance companies, and I'm guessing the international insurance companies edge out the farming corporations by a bit of a wide margin.