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Title: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Syt on June 03, 2015, 05:10:56 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/fashion/mens-style/the-baby-stroller-i-always-dreamed-of.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur


Sorry, Malthus, 1,000 buckaroos are not gonna cut it anymore. :(

QuoteFatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller

Guys, it turns out, like to be behind the wheel, whether it is a motorcycle or car. Or pram.

Way before I was ready to be a dad, I obsessed over strollers the same way I obsessed about 1970s-era cafe racer motorbikes: I knew about form factors, wheel widths, safety features and even aftermarket add-ons.

The one difference is that baby strollers are not something you brag about at a bar with your buddies. My obsession was something that only my wife knew about, and appropriately made fun of me for.

Then, a few weeks ago, we were at brunch with several couples (some with babies) and the subject of strollers came up. At first, I kept quiet, but the men at the table began voicing very strong and considered opinions about their favorites.

"I'm totally into the Uppababy Vista," one dad in his 40s said matter-of-factly, noting that the one he owned cost $750. Another man said he loved the Baby Jogger City Mini because it is light, agile with little wheels and costs around $400. He added that his "dream" stroller was the Stokke Xplory, which can cost more than $1,700, if you include the carry-cot.

I chimed in proudly: The best stroller in the world, I said, is the Bugaboo, and this was after a decade of research, long before I even wanted a baby.

The Bugaboo, I noted, costs $1,100 (though you can find deals online for $900) and has won dozens of accolades, including the Red Dot Design Award, and profiles in Time magazine and Bloomberg Businessweek. It's also great for off-terrain exploring and hiking, not that I'll be doing either of that with our baby.

Our affection for strollers is so great that some of the men had secretly test-driven baby strollers in their spare time, wheeling an empty pushchair around to check its brakes, wheel traction and ease of use. We are not alone, judging from the photos on stroller manufacturers' websites, which often feature men pushing their babies through parks and jogging paths.

After that brunch, I had a huge grin across my face, as my wife and I walked back to our car. "See, I'm not the only one," I said. "Lots of men love strollers."
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Syt on June 03, 2015, 05:12:57 AM
The Stokke Xplory:

(https://sits-pod24.demandware.net/dw/image/v2/AAQF_PRD/on/demandware.static/Sites-stokke-Site/Sites-stokke-master-catalog/iw_IL/dw05018025/images/mainview/MENU-images_Stroller_Xplory.jpg)
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 03, 2015, 06:52:14 AM
I thought his stroller cost $2000?
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Pedrito on June 03, 2015, 08:49:30 AM
The Stokke stroller is, as a matter of fact, an extraordinary stroller; its driveability is excellent, manoeuvers are very simple and hassle-free, and it's very pliable. it's better than any other stroller I've tried, and my wife (and the children) loved it :sleep:

Bugaboos, OTOH, although not as good as the Stokke, can be favoured by those who have problems of space, because they're smaller and lighter than the Xplory. Slight downside, though, it sometimes can look like a pushchair, while the Stokke's peculiar design puts it in a category on its own.

Both excellent strollers, IMO.

L.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: derspiess on June 03, 2015, 09:21:11 AM
My wife wanted a Stokke stroller and I almost let her talk me into it.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Legbiter on June 03, 2015, 09:32:55 AM
For rugged off-road and all-weather capability you can't beat a Swedish Emmaljunga stroller.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Barrister on June 03, 2015, 09:33:55 AM
We bought whatever was cheap at Walmart.  And it's lasted through three kids.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2015, 09:36:30 AM
What, if anything, do you splurge on Beeb?
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: frunk on June 03, 2015, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 03, 2015, 09:33:55 AM
We bought whatever was cheap at Walmart.  And it's lasted through three kids.

We didn't quite go cheapest, but got a reasonably light one that comboed with a carseat from Target.  It's been great.  I don't think it cost more than ~$150.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Valmy on June 03, 2015, 09:44:12 AM
Somebody gave me one so I spent nothing. :mono:
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: derspiess on June 03, 2015, 09:49:52 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on June 03, 2015, 09:32:55 AM
For rugged off-road and all-weather capability you can't beat a Swedish Emmaljunga stroller.

In retrospect I would have liked to have a stroller that would do well on hiking trails.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Barrister on June 03, 2015, 09:52:08 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2015, 09:36:30 AM
What, if anything, do you splurge on Beeb?

Childcare costs and trying to pay down debt. :(  But only 11 years left on the mortgage... :shifty:

I just don't see the point in paying an extravagant amount for a baby stroller.  I mean ours is really only used to trips to shopping malls or the local play park, where everything is nicely paved.  The one time we did something exotic and needed strollers (going to Brazil) we found it was easiest just to buy two $10 umbrella strollers (again from Walmart) to take with us.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Norgy on June 03, 2015, 03:54:20 PM
I wasn't surprised when I found that the Stokke strollers are made in Norway. And that they are crazy expensive. The more likely scenario is that they are not actually made here, but rather in a factory in Indonesia where the employ children and then someone earning 100 000 Euros a year slaps a sticker on it.

A local company here makes strollers for elderly people. They are prize-winningly great, apparently. And expensive like they had a gilded frame.

Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Josephus on June 03, 2015, 07:08:00 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 03, 2015, 06:52:14 AM
I thought his stroller cost $2000?

Canadian
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 03, 2015, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: Syt on June 03, 2015, 05:10:56 AM
After that brunch, I had a huge grin across my face, as my wife and I walked back to our car. "See, I'm not the only one," I said. "Lots of men love strollers."
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Apparently lots of men love My Little Pony as well.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2015, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: Josephus on June 03, 2015, 07:08:00 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 03, 2015, 06:52:14 AM
I thought his stroller cost $2000?

Canadian

Heh.

Remember that one brief shining moment when you guys could talk smack about the exchange rate?
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Ed Anger on June 03, 2015, 09:15:15 PM
I formed my kids into Cohorts, thus negating the need for strollers.

I Legio No Birth Controlica
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Barrister on June 03, 2015, 09:34:08 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2015, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: Josephus on June 03, 2015, 07:08:00 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 03, 2015, 06:52:14 AM
I thought his stroller cost $2000?

Canadian

Heh.

Remember that one brief shining moment when you guys could talk smack about the exchange rate?

It was glorious.   :cool:
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2015, 09:44:27 PM
I was curious what the loonie started out at vs. the greenback, so I wikied, and was surprised to learn that it is the 5th most held reserve currency, after the US dollar, the euro, the pound, and the yen.  Very surprised it's ahead of the Swiss franc.

As to the original question, AFAICT it started at 1.10 Canadian to 1 US dollar.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Norgy on June 04, 2015, 11:11:19 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2015, 09:15:15 PM
I formed my kids into Cohorts, thus negating the need for strollers.

I Legio No Birth Controlica

^_^
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Barrister on June 04, 2015, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2015, 09:44:27 PM
I was curious what the loonie started out at vs. the greenback, so I wikied, and was surprised to learn that it is the 5th most held reserve currency, after the US dollar, the euro, the pound, and the yen.  Very surprised it's ahead of the Swiss franc.

As to the original question, AFAICT it started at 1.10 Canadian to 1 US dollar.

That is a bit surprising.  But thinking about it, it makes some sense.  Canada is the 11th largest economy in the world.  But the ten countries above it are either already ahead on your list (US, UK, Japan), are in the Euro (Germany, France, Italy), or are lesser-developed or much riskier countries (China, India, Brazil, Russia).

Switzerland's economy is less than half that of Canada, and in any event is still quite bound up in the overall European economy.

Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2015, 11:53:40 AM
On the other hand I believe the Swiss franc has held its value better than any other currency since its creation.
Title: Re: Fatherhood Has Its Rewards, Like That $1,700 Stroller
Post by: PRC on June 04, 2015, 03:52:08 PM
We bought a Mountain Buggy.  $700, reliable, durable, would buy it again if I had to.  Only problem with it is that it doesn't store small.