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http://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test

It seems to be a bit of a fad this week for everyone to do this all of a sudden.
And the descriptions on this site are better than the usual

I always get the same on this.  INTP.  I question it's utility.

It called Ed Hitler.

according to a professional evaluation I once got at work, I'm ENTJ

INFP

QuoteINFP personalities are true idealists, always looking for the hint of good in even the worst of people and events, searching for ways to make things better. While they may be perceived as calm, reserved, or even shy, INFPs have an inner flame and passion that can truly shine. Comprising just 4% of the population, the risk of feeling misunderstood is unfortunately high for the INFP personality type - but when they find like-minded people to spend their time with, the harmony they feel will be a fountain of joy and inspiration.

INFP personalityBeing a part of the Diplomat (NF) personality group, INFPs are guided by their principles, rather than by logic (Analysts), excitement (Explorers), or practicality (Sentinels). When deciding how to move forward, they will look to honor, beauty, morality and virtue - INFPs are led by the purity of their intent, not rewards and punishments. People who share the INFP personality type are proud of this quality, and rightly so, but not everyone understands the drive behind these feelings, and it can lead to isolation.

All that is gold does not glitter; not all those who wander are lost; the old that is strong does not wither; deep roots are not reached by the frost. :nerd:

WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE, BUT KNOW NOT WHAT WE MAY BE

At their best, these qualities enable INFPs to communicate deeply with others, easily speaking in metaphors and parables, and understanding and creating symbols to share their ideas. The strength of this intuitive communication style lends itself well to creative works, and it comes as no surprise that many famous INFPs are poets, writers and actors. Understanding themselves and their place in the world is important to INFPs, and they explore these ideas by projecting themselves into their work.

QuoteINFPs have a talent for self-expression, revealing their beauty and their secrets through metaphors and fictional characters.

INFPs' ability with language doesn't stop with their native tongue, either - as with most people who share the Diplomat personality types, they are considered gifted when it comes to learning a second (or third!) language. Their gift for communication also lends itself well to INFPs' desire for harmony, a recurring theme with Diplomats, and helps them to move forward as they find their calling.

LISTEN TO MANY PEOPLE, BUT TALK TO FEW

Unlike their Extraverted cousins though, INFPs will focus their attention on just a few people, a single worthy cause - spread too thinly, they'll run out of energy, and even become dejected and overwhelmed by all the bad in the world that they can't fix. This is a sad sight for INFPs' friends, who will come to depend on their rosy outlook.

If they are not careful, INFPs can lose themselves in their quest for good and neglect the day-to-day upkeep that life demands. INFPs often drift into deep thought, enjoying contemplating the hypothetical and the philosophical more than any other personality type. Left unchecked, INFPs may start to lose touch, withdrawing into "hermit mode", and it can take a great deal of energy from their friends or partner to bring them back to the real world.

Luckily, like the flowers in spring, INFP's affection, creativity, altruism and idealism will always come back, rewarding them and those they love perhaps not with logic and utility, but with a world view that inspires compassion, kindness and beauty wherever they go.

ISTJ.  I almost always get either that or INTJ.

That quiz gave me a result I've never had. ESFP. I typically get INTJ. :hmm:

IDGAFWCYWTPMI

I keep fluctuating between INTP and INFP - I mostly bounce between 15 to either side.

This quiz gave me INTP, I usually get INTJ.

Got ESTP this time. I am pretty sure I had other letters when I did other tests like this before.

PERSONALITY: ESTP ("THE ENTREPRENEUR")
VARIANT: ASSERTIVE
ROLE: EXPLORER

I always get ISTJ.

I am an INTJ. I've become more and more introverted.

Quote from: The Brain on May 18, 2015, 01:32:25 PM
It called Ed Hitler.

I don't even have to show up now.  :)

Quote from: Syt on May 18, 2015, 02:06:46 PM
INFP

Me too.

ENTP-A "The Debater"

I'm usually an INTJ, but I got ISFJ on this quiz.

yay internet tests!  INTJ-A "The Architect"

Are there any that don't have cool names?  Like "the dork," or "the couch potato?"

No, everyone is a special* snowflake.




*One of 16 unique designs.

I got INXS.

INTP, as usual.

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 18, 2015, 08:43:36 PM
I got INXS.

I laughed

Quote from: The Brain on May 18, 2015, 01:32:25 PM
It called Ed Hitler.

He would be the one to get NSDAP.

Quote from: Tonitrus on May 18, 2015, 09:30:10 PM

Quote from: The Brain on May 18, 2015, 01:32:25 PM
It called Ed Hitler.

He would be the one to get NSDAP.

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ENTP-T (apparently, the T is for the "turbulent" variant).

Actually, it's probably the closest I've seen a Myers-Briggs test get to describing my personality.  On top of it, I'm actually related to the first name on their "famous ENTPs" list (John Adams). :D

TL;DR description: I argue because I can, and because it's fun.

TL;DR prospectus: I'm a good analyst, but a terrible manager.  Not like a professional systems analyst at all, nope.

Got ISFP-T

Quote from: Fate on May 18, 2015, 06:34:55 PM
I'm usually an INTJ, but I got ISFJ on this quiz.

I usually flip between I/E NTJ, but got ISFJ on this particular quiz.

I think Myers-Briggs is junk science, personally.

Quote from: Barrister on May 18, 2015, 10:47:50 PM
I think Myers-Briggs is junk science, personally.

I hear this view often, but I've never heard a convincing debunking of it that didn't sound like junk science itself.  From what I know about it (not much), it doesn't claim any biological causation behind the model, it's just a way to cluster observed personality types into categories.  I don't see what's so junky about such an approach, assuming that the resulting personality types are predictive of certain quantities of interest.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 18, 2015, 08:04:17 PM
Are there any that don't have cool names?  Like "the dork," or "the couch potato?"

From what I understand Myers and Briggs were Jungian psychologists (or at least were influenced by Jungian psychology) and their types correspond closely to Jungian archetypes. This means that you will not find many uncool ones as there are no uncool archetypes. It would be like finding a profoundly uncool Greek pantheon god. ;)

Quote from: DGuller on May 18, 2015, 10:55:37 PM

Quote from: Barrister on May 18, 2015, 10:47:50 PM
I think Myers-Briggs is junk science, personally.

I hear this view often, but I've never heard a convincing debunking of it that didn't sound like junk science itself.  From what I know about it (not much), it doesn't claim any biological causation behind the model, it's just a way to cluster observed personality types into categories.  I don't see what's so junky about such an approach, assuming that the resulting personality types are predictive of certain quantities of interest.

This. The types are mainly useful for therapists as they allow them to home in on certain defining qualities of a person's psychological profile and screen out the background noise so to speak.

Also, not surprised we have so many INTP / INTJ despite the fact that they are rather rare in the general populace (especially INTJs). They are the classic "nerd" profile.

I am a bit surprised about there being so many intps. Though it is always the case when this question comes up on the internet. Intps don't do the debate game.

Quote from: Norgy on May 18, 2015, 05:58:31 PM
I am an INTJ. I've become more and more introverted.

Same. I usually score well over 90% on the "I".

Like BB, I oscillate between ENTJ and INTJ - i.e. between asshole and nerd. :P

I did the test on Truity: http://www.truity.com/view/types

It tells me that I'm in the middle between INTP and INFP.

I've come to the conclusion that this must mean I have neither feelings nor thoughts, making me a thing.

I did the test in university.  The woman who conducted the test said that she was not surprised that half the class were ISTJs, as it was a business class. 

Quote from: Monoriu on May 19, 2015, 05:18:01 AM
I did the test in university.  The woman who conducted the test said that she was not surprised that half the class were ISTJs, as it was a business class.

I would say ENTJ and ESTJ would be the entrepreneurial types. ISTJ sounds like someone who would feel at home in acturial profession.

But maybe "business" means something else in China.

Quote from: Martinus on May 19, 2015, 05:32:35 AM

Quote from: Monoriu on May 19, 2015, 05:18:01 AM
I did the test in university.  The woman who conducted the test said that she was not surprised that half the class were ISTJs, as it was a business class.

I would say ENTJ and ESTJ would be the entrepreneurial types. ISTJ sounds like someone who would feel at home in acturial profession.

But maybe "business" means something else in China.

I went to university in Vancouver.  I think ISTJs are the office drones. 

Oh yeah, corporate people definitely - ENTJ are more "thinking outside of the box", "my way or high way", "cut corners" types - much more common in business than in corporations.

For example, I am ENTJ and I hate following procedures, filling in forms and the like. I'm much better at strategic planning and then having my P.A. implement the details.

INTP here.

Quote from: DGuller on May 18, 2015, 10:55:37 PM

Quote from: Barrister on May 18, 2015, 10:47:50 PM
I think Myers-Briggs is junk science, personally.

I hear this view often, but I've never heard a convincing debunking of it that didn't sound like junk science itself.  From what I know about it (not much), it doesn't claim any biological causation behind the model, it's just a way to cluster observed personality types into categories.  I don't see what's so junky about such an approach, assuming that the resulting personality types are predictive of certain quantities of interest.

Methodology tends to be wildly different from test to test, and what exactly does the test predict?

Not sure how the fact that there are different methodologies to determine the same thing somehow invalidates the underlying measure system.

The test predicts strength and weakness, in particular from a professional and inter-personal perspective, with a useful level of accuracy. I suspect it assumes that the native is relatively mentally stable so that his or her natural response tendencies are not distorted by psychological disorders, though.

Quote from: Martinus on May 19, 2015, 07:06:55 AM
Not sure how the fact that there are different methodologies to determine the same thing somehow invalidates the underlying measure system.

I am unaware of any methodology for M-B other than the multiple-choice question one. 

QuoteThe test predicts strength and weakness, in particular from a professional and inter-personal perspective, with a useful level of accuracy. I suspect it assumes that the native is relatively mentally stable so that his or her natural response tendencies are not distorted by psychological disorders, though.

Correct.  The test isn't a diagnostic tool, it is a generalized "character sorter" that uses the similarities and differences between the 16 archetypes as a practical, if imperfect, measuring stick.  As you note, it does seem to possess a useful level of accuracy.

Quote from: Martinus on May 19, 2015, 03:00:14 AM
Like BB, I oscillate between ENTJ and INTJ - i.e. between asshole and nerd. :P

Just an asshole. Non bleached.

EFSP. Not what I was expecting, but I suppose I did become a journalist to be Slightly Famous On The Internet.

ESTJ

Quote from: Brazen on May 19, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
EFSP. Not what I was expecting, but I suppose I did become a journalist to be Slightly Famous On The Internet.

And accounts for the transposition error? :D

Quote from: grumbler on May 19, 2015, 08:51:56 AM

Quote from: Martinus on May 19, 2015, 07:06:55 AM
Not sure how the fact that there are different methodologies to determine the same thing somehow invalidates the underlying measure system.

I am unaware of any methodology for M-B other than the multiple-choice question one. 

QuoteThe test predicts strength and weakness, in particular from a professional and inter-personal perspective, with a useful level of accuracy. I suspect it assumes that the native is relatively mentally stable so that his or her natural response tendencies are not distorted by psychological disorders, though.

Correct.  The test isn't a diagnostic tool, it is a generalized "character sorter" that uses the similarities and differences between the 16 archetypes as a practical, if imperfect, measuring stick.  As you note, it does seem to possess a useful level of accuracy.

My only issue would be that if this particular iteration of the test has a useful level of accuracy, it would suggest that I've adopted a whole new personality. :hmm:

Quote from: grumbler on May 19, 2015, 08:51:56 AM

Correct.  The test isn't a diagnostic tool, it is a generalized "character sorter" that uses the similarities and differences between the 16 archetypes as a practical, if imperfect, measuring stick.  As you note, it does seem to possess a useful level of accuracy.

Sort of like a horoscope.

Quote from: Razgovory on May 19, 2015, 11:28:22 AM

Quote from: grumbler on May 19, 2015, 08:51:56 AM

Correct.  The test isn't a diagnostic tool, it is a generalized "character sorter" that uses the similarities and differences between the 16 archetypes as a practical, if imperfect, measuring stick.  As you note, it does seem to possess a useful level of accuracy.

Sort of like a horoscope.

Short answer: no.

Long answer (not for Languish): kinda, but then a horoscope is actually a relatively accurate early psychological tool provided that certain caveats and reservations are made, the nature of which I will not get into, this being Languish and all.

Unfortunately it is very much like a horoscope.  If you were to give one these tests to say a group of 12 year old, does it have any predictive qualities?  No.  Most of the results are couched in vague positives, very much like a horoscope.  The test is popular amongst laymen for precisely this reason, it's flattering and vague.  The tests themselves ( of which I've seen many variants) often give contradictory results.  This shouldn't happen.  There are serious psychological tests, but they aren't as popular on the internet or Human Resources.  Things like the MMPI have mechanism to spot dishonest answers, unlike this test. Unfortunately it's a really long fucking test with hundreds of questions.

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/im-an-entj-destroyer-of-worlds-36075

Quote from: garbon on May 19, 2015, 11:10:36 AM

My only issue would be that if this particular iteration of the test has a useful level of accuracy, it would suggest that I've adopted a whole new personality. :hmm:

Useful accuracy doesn't mean complete accuracy.  If you are closer to the line dividing two archetypes then a few different answers would change your category.  that wouldn't mean treating tyou like you were in the other category would suddenly be bad, because you'd be close to being more interested in, say judgement, even if this time you seemed were slightly more interested in perception.

The test isn't telling you what personality you've adopted, it is telling your co-workers what approaches and rewards worked best in dealing with you. 

The archetypes are the extremes, not the exemplars.  Like most extremes, they are pretty much purely theoretical, except in cases involving pathology.

I agree with grumbler. I think DISC is probably more useful in work situations as it is simpler to remember, though.

Quote from: Martinus on May 21, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
I agree with grumbler. I think DISC is probably more useful in work situations as it is simpler to remember, though.

M-B works better as a fad, though.

Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2015, 01:08:40 PM

Quote from: Martinus on May 21, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
I agree with grumbler. I think DISC is probably more useful in work situations as it is simpler to remember, though.

M-B works better as a fad, though.

True. That being said, DISC was great for me in adjusting my style at work. We had a workshop with a psychologist/coach and I found out I am dominant D and I shouldn't consider those who aren't morons. :P

Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2015, 01:05:15 PM

Quote from: garbon on May 19, 2015, 11:10:36 AM

My only issue would be that if this particular iteration of the test has a useful level of accuracy, it would suggest that I've adopted a whole new personality. :hmm:

Useful accuracy doesn't mean complete accuracy.  If you are closer to the line dividing two archetypes then a few different answers would change your category.  that wouldn't mean treating tyou like you were in the other category would suddenly be bad, because you'd be close to being more interested in, say judgement, even if this time you seemed were slightly more interested in perception.

The test isn't telling you what personality you've adopted, it is telling your co-workers what approaches and rewards worked best in dealing with you. 

The archetypes are the extremes, not the exemplars.  Like most extremes, they are pretty much purely theoretical, except in cases involving pathology.

Wouldn't that suggest then that I am on the borderline in every single dichotomy given that my most recent result was the opposing one on each of the 4 groupings? Not sure if that would help my colleagues know the best approaches to take with me. :D

Quote from: Martinus on May 21, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
I agree with grumbler. I think DISC is probably more useful in work situations as it is simpler to remember, though.

I am not familiar with DISC.  What is it?

Dominant-Influential-Steady-Compliant.

I got Di_c as my "relaxed" profile and D!i__ as my "stressed" profile. :unsure:

I guess I am *not* Steady.

Here is a summary of what each means (sometimes S is also referred to as Supportive)

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What percentage of the population makes the DISC?

Quote from: Martinus on May 21, 2015, 04:03:07 PM
I got Di_c as my "relaxed" profile and D!i__ as my "stressed" profile. :unsure:

I guess I am *not* Steady.

:hmm: You're a dic when relaxed?  You don't say! :o

Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2015, 03:50:51 PM
Dominant-Influential-Steady-Compliant.

Not familar with this test, so I cannot comment.  Is it common amongst HR?

Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2015, 03:36:16 PM
Wouldn't that suggest then that I am on the borderline in every single dichotomy given that my most recent result was the opposing one on each of the 4 groupings? Not sure if that would help my colleagues know the best approaches to take with me. :D

I think that the theory says that, if you are not strongly anything, then any approach will work to motivate and interest you, just not very well. 

I'm not a fan of M-B per se, but did study it a bit in my course work.  There are people who (at least used to) swear by it.  The actual test (which is still probably under copyright) was something like 100 questions long.

Quote from: Razgovory on May 21, 2015, 04:43:31 PM

Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2015, 03:50:51 PM
Dominant-Influential-Steady-Compliant.

Not familar with this test, so I cannot comment.  Is it common amongst HR?

Yes, it is fairly popular these days.

Quote from: Martinus on May 21, 2015, 04:03:07 PM
I got Di_c as my "relaxed" profile and D!i__ as my "stressed" profile. :unsure:

I guess I am *not* Steady.

Weird. I always considered you humble and tactful.

I got a D too on that one! :yeah: