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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/nasa-might-have-successfully-tested-a-warp-drive-could-carry-people-at-speeds-as-fast-as-light-10215544.html
Nasa may have successfully tested a form of space flight that could carry people to the moon in a few short hours — and eventually let us fly at speeds approaching that of light.
The agency has built an electromagnetic (EM) drive, using technology that shouldn't be possible in current understanding of physics, according to users on forum NASASpaceFlight.com. Some of those discussing the plan claim to be Nasa engineers that are currently working on the plan — and have been verified as such, according to Cnet.
While the technology behind EM drives has been demonstrated before, the results have been disputed by some who don't believe that it could work. But a controlled demonstration in conditions like those in space could be enough to begin the work to prove that the project could be used in practice.
Though the technology has been discussed in great length and detail on the forum and elsewhere, it is yet to undergo any peer review and the results of the recent Nasa experiments have not been released publicly.
The device works by propelling objects through space by using magnets to create microwaves, which are then sent through a device to create thrust. If it works, it could overcome the need to carry fuel for propulsion — a huge problem that limits the speed and distance that those journeying in space can travel.
To work, the spacecraft that carried it would need to carry a nuclear power plant to create the energy required to travel through space.
Nasa's official site says that: "There are many 'absurd' theories that have become reality over the years of scientific research.". "But for the near future, warp drive remains a dream," it writes in a post updated last month.
According to the forum users, the technology has been tested at the Johnson Space Center. In 2014, Nasa verified that the claims of Roger Shawyer, who invented the technology, did seem to be true. But those tests took place using low power and not in the kinds of space-like environment that the new testing seems to have been done in.
Speaking to Cnet, one of the scientists involved in the project said that it was looking to release Nasa from the problems of having to build and carry rockets.
"My work at Eagleworks (the lab at JSC where the EM drive is being tested) is just a continuation of my work tackling the fundamental problem that has been hindering manned spaceflight from the termination of the Apollo moon program," said Paul March. "That being the availability of a robust and cost-effective power and propulsion technology that can break us loose from the shackles of the rocket equation."
Quote from: KRonn on April 30, 2015, 01:39:20 PMusing technology that shouldn't be possible in current understanding of physics
What could possibly go wrong?
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How difficult could it possibly be? They do it on TV and movies all the time!
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
NASA's nowhere near "testing speed of light travel" at this point.
What happened was they noticed light hitting the testing equipment at different times. The environment was controlled, but there's still a possibility that it was just atmospheric refraction, like the "ripple" effect you see over roads in the middle distance on a hot day. They're going to test again soon with a vacuum to rule that possibility out- IF it stands, what they'll know is that... something... in the EM drive mechanism dilates space and creates a localized (for want of a better term than Star Trek's) warp field bubble.
A little reddit birdie clued me in to this as it was happening (as the relevant posts were appearing on the NASA spaceflight forums) several days ago, so surprised that 1) it's taken this long to show up here, and that 2) Timmy got scooped on it.
Reactionless drives !!!111 :nerd: :w00t:
Almost certainly some kind of error in the setup of the instruments measuring the experiment.
If such a thing is possible, it could wipe out all life on earth.
70 day trip to Mars, 9 month trip to Saturn, 130 year trip to Alpha Centauri.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/04/evaluating-nasas-futuristic-em-drive/
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 30, 2015, 08:17:47 PM
70 day trip to Mars, 9 month trip to Saturn, 130 year trip to Alpha Centauri.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/04/evaluating-nasas-futuristic-em-drive/
That's nothing. They should talk to Swedish Railways.
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
Singularity immortals. Flesh is but a memory.
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
He has no idea what he's talking about.
Quote from: The Brain on May 01, 2015, 03:02:05 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
Singularity immortals. Flesh is but a memory.
Sounds horrid. Sides, the Sun is gonna go eventually, as will the Earth. Need to leave the Solar System. Need to leave the Galaxy.
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
Immortals don't have children, in the sense that if you decide to wait 10,000 years to have your first and only child it would not be statistically relevant.
Reproduction is an imperative for people doomed to die. Not so for immortals.
Looking at human history you can tell the longer the lifespan the longer people wait to have children.
Immortals have not need to pass their genes on, and don't see reproduction as an small measure of immortality.
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
The asteroid belt and the Oort Cloud have enough resources to support trillions of people.
Quote from: The Brain on May 01, 2015, 03:02:05 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
Singularity immortals. Flesh is but a memory.
This is one of the possibilities, and the most likely one from our current technological perspective, but their are people investing in the possibility of endless renewal of the human body.
I'll get you a link later.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 01, 2015, 03:20:39 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
He has no idea what he's talking about.
Remember I introducced you to the concept of the technological singularity.
Your little brain will eventually catch up.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 01, 2015, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
The asteroid belt and the Oort Cloud have enough resources to support trillions of people.
Post singularity civilizations are post scarcity.
100% recycling and molecular restructuring on a 3D printer.
Quote from: Siege on May 01, 2015, 11:55:11 AM
Remember I introducced you to the concept of the technological singularity.
Your little brain will eventually catch up.
Hopefully, one day you'll be introduced to the concept of skepticism.
The Singularity Hub:
http://singularityhub.com/
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 01, 2015, 12:01:32 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 01, 2015, 11:55:11 AM
Remember I introducced you to the concept of the technological singularity.
Your little brain will eventually catch up.
Hopefully, one day you'll be introduced to the concept of skepticism.
I am skeptic of socialism, communism, luddites, alien contact of any kinds including paleo-contact, and all kinds of conspiracy theories.
Wholesale rejection without considering the merits is not the same thing.
Quote from: Siege on May 01, 2015, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 01, 2015, 12:01:32 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 01, 2015, 11:55:11 AM
Remember I introducced you to the concept of the technological singularity.
Your little brain will eventually catch up.
Hopefully, one day you'll be introduced to the concept of skepticism.
I am skeptic of socialism, communism, luddites, alien contact of any kinds including paleo-contact, and all kinds of conspiracy theories.
LOL :lol:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 01, 2015, 12:08:33 PM
Wholesale rejection without considering the merits is not the same thing.
Why do you assume that?
I am a recent convert to full free market capitalism.
I used to support the concept of limited socialism.
Quote from: Siege on May 01, 2015, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 01, 2015, 03:20:39 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
He has no idea what he's talking about.
Remember I introducced you to the concept of the technological singularity.
Your little brain will eventually catch up.
No, Verner Vinge did.
Quote from: Siege on May 01, 2015, 12:19:35 PM
Why do you assume that?
Those thoughtless demotivational pics you like to post don't help. :P
Converts are always the most zealous.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 01, 2015, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 01, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 30, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Will it be called the Shawyer Drive?
Regardless, it is still a sublight drive. So my theory that alien civilizations become immortals before achieving hyperdrive tech, thus eliminating the need for colonies, still viable.
Wouldnt people becoming immortal mean we need more colonies? On account of there being too many people...
The asteroid belt and the Oort Cloud have enough resources to support trillions of people.
But not much in the way of quality of life. There are no flowers, trees, or green open pastures in the Oort cloud.
So it wouldn't need fuel but it would need a nuclear reactor.