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Title: I converted to Islam
Post by: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:09:10 PM
So many lies in this article

Article:

I'm a feminist and I converted to Islam
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/opinion/muslim-convert-irpt/ (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/opinion/muslim-convert-irpt/)
Corbin is a writer living in New Orleans, Louisiana. She is the founder of Islamwich (http://islamwich.com/) and a contributor to On Islam (http://www.onislam.net/english/) and Aquila Style (http://www.aquila-style.com/). A version of this piece first appeared on CNN iReport (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1173586).
  (CNN)I am a Muslim, but I wasn't always. I converted to Islam in November 2001, two months after 9/11.
I was 21 and living in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. It was a bad time to be a Muslim. But after four years of studying, poking and prodding at world religions and their adherents, I decided to take the plunge.

Questions and answers

I am the product of a Creole Catholic and an Irish atheist. I grew up Catholic, then was agnostic, now I'm Muslim.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F141009105752-theresa-corbin-irpt-story-body.jpg&hash=26ab3033f242ad8cfcb437029419049b69613e23)  <img alt="Theresa Corbin" class="media__image" itemprop="image" src="http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/141009105752-theresa-corbin-irpt-story-top.jpg">Theresa Corbin My journey to Islam began when I was about 15 years old in mass, and had questions about my faith. The answers from teachers and clergymen -- don't worry your pretty little head about it -- didn't satisfy me.

So I did what any red-blooded American would do: the opposite. I worried about it. For many years. I questioned the nature of religion, man, and the universe.
After questioning everything I was taught to be true and digging through rhetoric, history and dogma, I found out about this strange thing called Islam. I learned that Islam is neither a culture nor a cult, nor could it be represented by one part of the world. I came to realize Islam is a world religion that teaches tolerance, justice and honor, and promotes patience, modesty and balance.

As I studied the faith, I was surprised many of the tenants resonated with me. I was pleased to find that Islam teaches its adherents to honor all prophets, from Moses to Jesus to Muhammad, all of whom taught mankind to worship one God and to conduct ourselves with higher purpose.

I was drawn to Islam's appeal to intellect and heartened by the prophet Muhammad's quote, "The acquisition of knowledge is compulsory for every Muslim, whether male or female." I was astounded that science and rationality were embraced by Muslim thinkers like Al-Khawarizmi, who invented algebra; Ibn Firnas, who developed the mechanics of flight before DaVinci; and Al-Zahravi, who is the father of modern surgery.

Here was a religion telling me to seek out answers and use my intellect to question the world around me.

Taking the plunge

It was 2001 and I had been putting off converting for a while. I feared what people would think, but was utterly miserable. When 9/11 happened, the actions of the hijackers horrified me. But in its aftermath, I spent most of my time defending Muslims and their religion to people who were all too eager to paint a group of 1.6 billion people with one brush because of the actions of a few. I was done being held hostage by the opinions of others. In defending Islam, I got over my fear and decided to join my brothers and sisters in the faith I believed in.

My family did not understand, but it wasn't a surprise to them since I had been studying religion. Most were very concerned for my safety. Luckily, most of my friends were cool about it, and even curious to learn more.

The scarf

These days, I am a proud wearer of hijab. You can call it a scarf. My scarf does not tie my hands behind my back, and it is not a tool of oppression. It doesn't prevent thoughts from entering my head and leaving my mouth. But I didn't always know this.

Studying Islam didn't immediately dispel all my cultural misconceptions. I had been raised on imagery of women in the East being treated like chattel by men who forced them to cover their bodies out of shame or a sense of ownership.

But when I asked a Muslim woman "Why do you wear that?", her answer was obvious, and appealing: "To please God. To be recognized as a woman who is to be respected and not harassed. So that I can protect myself from the male gaze." She explained how dressing modestly is a symbol to the world that a woman's body is not meant for mass consumption or critique.

I still wasn't convinced and replied, "Yeah, but women are like second class citizens in your faith?" The very patient Muslim lady explained that, during a time when the Western world treated women like property, Islam taught that men and women were equal in the eyes of God. Islam made the woman's consent to marriage mandatory and gave women the opportunity to inherit, own property, run businesses and participate in government.

She listed right after right that women in Islam held nearly 1250 years before women's lib was ever thought of in the West. Surprisingly, Islam turned out to be the religion that appealed to my feminist ideals.

Getting married

It might shock you to know that I had an arranged marriage. That doesn't mean I was forced to marry my father's first choice suitor, like Jasmine from Aladdin. Dad didn't even have a say.

When I converted, it wasn't a good time to be a Muslim. Feeling isolated, alienated and rejected by my own society pushed me to want to start a family of my own. Even before converting I had always wanted a serious relationship, but found few men looking for the same.

As a new Muslim, I knew there was a better way to look for love and a lifelong partnership. I decided that if I wanted a serious relationship, it was time to get serious about finding one. I wanted an arranged marriage.

I made a list of "30 Rock"-style deal breakers. I searched. I interviewed. I interrogated friends and families of prospects.

I decided I wanted to marry another convert, someone who had been where I was and wanted to go where I wanted to go. Thanks to parents of friends, I found my now-husband, a convert to Islam, in Mobile, Alabama, two hours from my New Orleans home. Twelve years later, we are living happily ever after.

Not every Muslim finds a mate in this manner, and I didn't always see this for my life. But I am glad Islam afforded me this option.

Living in a post-9/11 world

I never had to give up my personality, American identity or culture to be a Muslim. I have, at times, had to give up on being treated with dignity.

I have been spat on, had eggs thrown at me, and been cursed at from passing cars. And I have felt terror when the mosque I attended in Savannah, Georgia, was first shot at, then burned down (http://www.wtoc.com/story/1416248/mosque-arson-investigated).

In August 2012, I moved back home to New Orleans, where being different is the norm. I finally felt safe -- for a while. But now, with the continuous news coverage of the un-Islamic group known as ISIS, I have been subjected to much of the same treatment I received in other cities. And I now feel less safe than I ever have.

It enrages me to know there are some who call themselves Muslims and who distort and misappropriate Islam for political gains. It weighs on me knowing that millions of my countrymen see only these images as a representative of my religion. It is unbearable to know that I am passionately hated for my beliefs, when those hating me don't even know what my beliefs are.

In my journey to Islam, I came to learn that Muslims come in all shapes, sizes, attitudes, ethnicities, cultures and nationalities. I came to know that Islam teaches disagreement and that shouldn't lead to disrespect, as most Muslims want peace. Most of all, I have faith that my fellow Americans can rise above fear and hatred and come to learn the same.

The opinions expressed in this story are solely those of Theresa Corbin.

Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Caliga on March 30, 2015, 03:16:13 PM
Wow, you're more feminine looking than I remember, Seigey.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Sheilbh on March 30, 2015, 03:17:03 PM
I don't see why Americans can't be like the rest of us just grow distant and resentful-fond of the faith they were born into :mellow:
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: The Brain on March 30, 2015, 03:18:06 PM
I miss bmo. :(
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Razgovory on March 30, 2015, 03:18:41 PM
But, you're a liar Siege.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on March 30, 2015, 03:21:41 PM
Siegey as a Moslem isn't that far out.  He's halfway there after all. Just needs to trade the booze for teh hashish.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: garbon on March 30, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
I hate when people don't title threads correctly!
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Valmy on March 30, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
Well you already cannot eat pork but I would think not being able to drink would be a showstopper for you Siege.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Malthus on March 30, 2015, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 30, 2015, 03:16:13 PM
Wow, you're more feminine looking than I remember, Seigey.

It's the glasses, right?  :hmm:
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: grumbler on March 30, 2015, 03:37:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 30, 2015, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 30, 2015, 03:16:13 PM
Wow, you're more feminine looking than I remember, Seigey.

It's the glasses, right?  :hmm:

Birth control glasses.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Martinus on March 30, 2015, 03:41:47 PM
There is nothing I hate more than Westerners who convert to Islam. That's like the lowest of the low.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Martinus wins this thread hands down.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:45:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 30, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
I hate when people don't title threads correctly!

Shit. You are right.
I misserably failed the languish community.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: grumbler on March 30, 2015, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 30, 2015, 03:41:47 PM
There is nothing I hate more than Westerners who convert to Islam. That's like the lowest of the low.

Particularly those who convert because the Arab world was marginally more advanced than the Christian world a thousand years ago.  If that's your best argument, Islam is pretty crap.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Valmy on March 30, 2015, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 30, 2015, 03:41:47 PM
There is nothing I hate more than Westerners who convert to Islam. That's like the lowest of the low.

I don't mind her finding something she enjoys but fuck was it really necessary to spout lies and nonsense about western culture and religion? I get they did not work for her but come on. She claims to be some sort of feminist and somebody who studies religion yet...

I mean:

QuoteAs I studied the faith, I was surprised many of the tenants resonated with me. I was pleased to find that Islam teaches its adherents to honor all prophets, from Moses to Jesus to Muhammad, all of whom taught mankind to worship one God and to conduct ourselves with higher purpose.

Um right they end at Muhammed. Lots of other people think people born after Muhammed were prophets as well but I don't see Islam honoring them. Basically Islam teaches its adherents to honor prophets it considers prophets. This was pleasing to learn why? I guess she was just happy to see Jesus was included and found this a mind blowing revelation.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: The Brain on March 30, 2015, 03:48:30 PM
Chicks love bad boys. And who's worse than Muhammed?
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:50:43 PM
Islam "honors" all the jewish prophets.

Look how much difference it has made.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 30, 2015, 03:48:30 PM
Chicks love bad boys. And who's worse than Muhammed?

I never knew you were such a great psychologist.
You figure her right.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: viper37 on March 30, 2015, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Martinus wins this thread hands down.

you and Marty, BFF?
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: garbon on March 30, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 30, 2015, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Martinus wins this thread hands down.

you and Marty, BFF?

Fuck buddies!
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Malthus on March 30, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 30, 2015, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 30, 2015, 03:41:47 PM
There is nothing I hate more than Westerners who convert to Islam. That's like the lowest of the low.

I don't mind her finding something she enjoys but fuck was it really necessary to spout lies and nonsense about western culture and religion? I get they did not work for her but come on. She claims to be some sort of feminist and somebody who studies religion yet...

I mean:

QuoteAs I studied the faith, I was surprised many of the tenants resonated with me. I was pleased to find that Islam teaches its adherents to honor all prophets, from Moses to Jesus to Muhammad, all of whom taught mankind to worship one God and to conduct ourselves with higher purpose.

Um right they end at Muhammed. Lots of other people think people born after Muhammed were prophets as well but I don't see Islam honoring them. Basically Islam teaches its adherents to honor prophets it considers prophets. This was pleasing to learn why? I guess she was just happy to see Jesus was included and found this a mind blowing revelation.

Her next conversion stop: Baha'i.  :D
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: viper37 on March 30, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 30, 2015, 03:46:41 PM
Um right they end at Muhammed. Lots of other people think people born after Muhammed were prophets as well but I don't see Islam honoring them. Basically Islam teaches its adherents to honor prophets it considers prophets. This was pleasing to learn why? I guess she was just happy to see Jesus was included and found this a mind blowing revelation.
Of course they end at Muhammed.  Any other prophet would need to be a muslim to be recognized as such, duh.  It's not like the Christians would recognize a Jewish prophet born after Jesus Christ.  If Netanyahu was to be considered a Prophet by some Israelis, I doubt many Christians would recognize him as such.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Siege on March 30, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 30, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 30, 2015, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Martinus wins this thread hands down.

you and Marty, BFF?

Fuck buddies!

I like skinny long haired blondish bitches.
Martinus does not fit the bill.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Neil on March 30, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
It makes sense that Siege would convert to Islam.  His brand of crazy Judaism is pretty much the same.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Ideologue on March 30, 2015, 04:44:31 PM
I'm pretty unconcerned.  For every crazy person that joins a cult, there are more who drop out of the one they were born into.

I find it curious that doesn't seem to share the ordinary definitions of terms like "arranged marriage," and is weirdly close to saying the only way to dress modestly for personal comfort is if it's a tenet of your religion.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: LaCroix on March 30, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
girl doubts her religion, gets scared, and jumps into bed with another religion.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: DGuller on March 30, 2015, 05:03:02 PM
Adolescence is a dangerous age.  You're going to get heavily into something, anything that you happen to run across at the most vulnerable time.  Most people get lucky and fall into something that doesn't suck them in deeper, so they can eventually grow out of it.  Some people aren't that lucky, and become fundamentalist for life.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: grumbler on March 30, 2015, 05:07:23 PM
Yeah, that whole exchange about
QuoteI still wasn't convinced and replied, "Yeah, but women are like second class citizens in your faith?" The very patient Muslim lady explained that, during a time when the Western world treated women like property, Islam taught that men and women were equal in the eyes of God. Islam made the woman's consent to marriage mandatory and gave women the opportunity to inherit, own property, run businesses and participate in government.
is just bizarre.  Women are treated as second-class citizens in Islam, and the author even points it out before going off on a non sequitur about how things were a thousand years ago.  I mean, if she didn't want to concede that Islam treats women like shit, why even point that out?

Yeah, women can inherit in Muslim countries, but only half the man's share.  Women's consent to marriage is "mandatory," but silence is consent.  In no way do women in Arab or Iranian Islamic societies have anywhere near the opportunities for education, property acquisition, or participation in government that men have.  Second-class citizens isn't a bad term for women in most (but not all) Muslim countries.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: dps on March 30, 2015, 05:14:22 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 30, 2015, 03:48:30 PM
Chicks love bad boys. And who's worse than Muhammed?

Jaron?

Quote from: SiegeI like skinny long haired blondish bitches.
Martinus does not fit the bill.

Well, maybe he'd let his hair grow long for you...
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: LaCroix on March 30, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 30, 2015, 05:07:23 PM
Yeah, that whole exchange about
...
is just bizarre.  Women are treated as second-class citizens in Islam, and the author even points it out before going off on a non sequitur about how things were a thousand years ago.  I mean, if she didn't want to concede that Islam treats women like shit, why even point that out?

Yeah, women can inherit in Muslim countries, but only half the man's share.  Women's consent to marriage is "mandatory," but silence is consent.  In no way do women in Arab or Iranian Islamic societies have anywhere near the opportunities for education, property acquisition, or participation in government that men have.  Second-class citizens isn't a bad term for women in most (but not all) Muslim countries.

this was kinda weird, too

http://www.ifoundislam.net/revert-supports/revert-stories/37-former-christians/720-theresa-corbin-former-catholic-revert-story.html#yo8fik3SXb7BsZq6.99
QuoteIslam made sense and even spoke to my nature. But I rebelled and the more I refused Islam and chose my culture over it the more miserable I became. I would find myself weeping for no other reason than the increasing emptiness I felt as I continued to reject Islam and replace it with my vapid culture. My health began to fail. I lost my scholarship. My personal safety was compromised. I lost my home and began staying with friends.

I defied until I couldn't go on. I finally admitted, like the most homophobic person who finally comes out of the closet, that I was a Muslim.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 30, 2015, 06:28:50 PM
She's a crank.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 30, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
I'm happy for you, Siege. I will eat some bacon in celebration. :cheers:
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Valmy on March 30, 2015, 08:02:36 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on March 30, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
QuoteIslam made sense and even spoke to my nature. But I rebelled and the more I refused Islam and chose my culture over it the more miserable I became. I would find myself weeping for no other reason than the increasing emptiness I felt as I continued to reject Islam and replace it with my vapid culture. My health began to fail. I lost my scholarship. My personal safety was compromised. I lost my home and began staying with friends.

I defied until I couldn’t go on. I finally admitted, like the most homophobic person who finally comes out of the closet, that I was a Muslim.

Man she makes Islam sound like crack.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 30, 2015, 10:28:10 PM
There's clearly more to the story than what's in here. I feel bad for her.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: garbon on March 30, 2015, 11:58:50 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 30, 2015, 08:02:36 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on March 30, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
QuoteIslam made sense and even spoke to my nature. But I rebelled and the more I refused Islam and chose my culture over it the more miserable I became. I would find myself weeping for no other reason than the increasing emptiness I felt as I continued to reject Islam and replace it with my vapid culture. My health began to fail. I lost my scholarship. My personal safety was compromised. I lost my home and began staying with friends.

I defied until I couldn’t go on. I finally admitted, like the most homophobic person who finally comes out of the closet, that I was a Muslim.

Man she makes Islam sound like crack.

:huh:

If it was crack, most of those things would have happened while "using" (aka practicing Islam) in this tortured analogy.

Seems like those events are probably unrelated except that them happening drove her to adopting Islam.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Martinus on March 31, 2015, 12:28:58 AM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 30, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 30, 2015, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Martinus wins this thread hands down.

you and Marty, BFF?

Fuck buddies!

I like skinny long haired blondish bitches.
Martinus does not fit the bill.

Are you calling me fat???
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: garbon on March 31, 2015, 12:35:22 AM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 30, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 30, 2015, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Martinus wins this thread hands down.

you and Marty, BFF?

Fuck buddies!

I like skinny long haired blondish bitches.
Martinus does not fit the bill.


Like RuPaul?
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 31, 2015, 01:50:11 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 30, 2015, 08:02:36 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on March 30, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
QuoteIslam made sense and even spoke to my nature. But I rebelled and the more I refused Islam and chose my culture over it the more miserable I became.

...

I defied until I couldn't go on. I finally admitted, like the most homophobic person who finally comes out of the closet, that I was a Muslim.

Man she makes Islam sound like crack.
The first thing that flashed through my mind when I read that title, was that was what Seige was going to write.  :D
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Ed Anger on March 31, 2015, 07:32:42 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 31, 2015, 12:28:58 AM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 30, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 30, 2015, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 30, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Martinus wins this thread hands down.

you and Marty, BFF?

Fuck buddies!

I like skinny long haired blondish bitches.
Martinus does not fit the bill.

Are you calling me fat???

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Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Valmy on March 31, 2015, 07:35:57 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 30, 2015, 11:58:50 PM

If it was crack, most of those things would have happened while "using" (aka practicing Islam) in this tortured analogy.

I was thinking more of withdrawal symptoms. Can a one liner really be 'tortured'? Ah well.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Valmy on March 31, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 31, 2015, 12:35:22 AM

Like RuPaul?

I don't know if Siege could tolerate the transphobia.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: The Brain on March 31, 2015, 10:10:42 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 30, 2015, 05:03:02 PM
Adolescence is a dangerous age.  You're going to get heavily into something, anything that you happen to run across at the most vulnerable time.  Most people get lucky and fall into something that doesn't suck them in deeper, so they can eventually grow out of it.  Some people aren't that lucky, and become fundamentalist for life.

Shut up about the blueberries already.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: DGuller on March 31, 2015, 10:17:41 AM
Quote from: The Brain on March 31, 2015, 10:10:42 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 30, 2015, 05:03:02 PM
Adolescence is a dangerous age.  You're going to get heavily into something, anything that you happen to run across at the most vulnerable time.  Most people get lucky and fall into something that doesn't suck them in deeper, so they can eventually grow out of it.  Some people aren't that lucky, and become fundamentalist for life.

Shut up about the blueberries already.
:mad: I haven't eaten blueberries in a long, long time.  They're $4 a pint over here these days.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Ed Anger on March 31, 2015, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 31, 2015, 10:17:41 AM
Quote from: The Brain on March 31, 2015, 10:10:42 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 30, 2015, 05:03:02 PM
Adolescence is a dangerous age.  You're going to get heavily into something, anything that you happen to run across at the most vulnerable time.  Most people get lucky and fall into something that doesn't suck them in deeper, so they can eventually grow out of it.  Some people aren't that lucky, and become fundamentalist for life.

Shut up about the blueberries already.
:mad: I haven't eaten blueberries in a long, long time.  They're $4 a pint over here these days.

you sound poor
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: garbon on March 31, 2015, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 31, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 31, 2015, 12:35:22 AM

Like RuPaul?

I don't know if Siege could tolerate the transphobia.

He recently described him as lovely, well in so many words.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: Siege on March 31, 2015, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 31, 2015, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 31, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 31, 2015, 12:35:22 AM

Like RuPaul?

I don't know if Siege could tolerate the transphobia.

He recently described him as lovely, well in so many words.

I don't know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: I converted to Islam
Post by: garbon on March 31, 2015, 03:36:15 PM
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