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Title: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 27, 2014, 01:34:07 AM
An ISIS fanboy?  :hmm:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/26/woman-beheaded-oklahoma/16293737/
QuotePolice: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
AP 8:09 p.m. EDT September 26, 2014

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — A man fired from an Oklahoma food processing plant beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.

Moore Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis said police are waiting until Alton Nolen, 30, is conscious to arrest him in Thursday's attack and have asked the FBI to help investigate after co-workers at Vaughan Foods in the south Oklahoma City suburb told authorities that he recently started trying to convert several employees to Islam.

Nolen severed the head of Colleen Hufford, 54, Lewis said.

"Yes, she was beheaded," Lewis told the Associated Press before a Friday news conference.

Lewis said Nolen then stabbed Traci Johnson, 43, a number of times before Mark Vaughan, a reserve sheriff's deputy and the company's chief operating officer, shot him.

"This was not going to stop if he didn't stop it. It could have gotten a lot worse," Lewis said. "The threat had already stopped once we arrived."

Lewis said Moore police have asked the FBI to look into the man's background because of the nature of the attack, which follows a series of videotaped beheadings by Islamic State militants.

In a statement, FBI Special Agent in Charge James E. Finch said the motive for the attack has not been determined but that there is no reason to believe there is a threat to anyone else.

A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation told the AP that while there was indication that Nolen was a Muslim convert and was trying to convert others to Islam, there is so far no connection to terrorism and no evidence of any worrisome travel.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still ongoing, said Nolen had a Facebook page that was of potential interest to investigators but that "there doesn't appear to be any nexus to terrorism right now." But the official also said investigators were still looking into Nolen's background.

Johnson and the suspect were hospitalized and in stable condition Friday, Lewis said. Nolen had not yet been charged and Lewis said he didn't know what charges the suspect would face.

Oklahoma Department of Corrections records say Nolen has served time in prison and is on probation for assault and battery on a police officer. He also was convicted of cocaine possession with intent to distribute in 2011.

Corrections records show Nolen has what appear to be religious tattoos, including one referencing Jesus and one in Arabic that means "peace be with you."

Lewis said Nolen had been fired in a building that houses the company's human resources office, then immediately drove to the entrance of the business. Lewis said he didn't know why the man was fired.

A Vaughan spokeswoman said the company was "shocked and deeply saddened" by the attack.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 27, 2014, 07:10:12 AM
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: The Brain on September 27, 2014, 07:18:19 AM
Aren't Oklahoma workplaces sacred ground?
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 27, 2014, 07:55:08 AM
QuoteA Vaughan spokeswoman said the company was "shocked and deeply saddened" by the attack.


I guess so.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on September 27, 2014, 08:03:05 AM
CEO of that company is a reserve police, he's the one who shot / disabled the attacker.

That's how you know you're in Oklahoma.
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Post by: mongers on September 27, 2014, 08:16:34 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 27, 2014, 08:03:05 AM
CEO of that company is a reserve police, he's the one who shot / disabled the attacker.

That's how you know you're in Oklahoma.

Something good out of Oklahoma for a change.   :)
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Kleves on September 27, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
Wouldn't it take a pretty long time to behead someone with a knife?
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Post by: mongers on September 27, 2014, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: Kleves on September 27, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
Wouldn't it take a pretty long time to behead someone with a knife?

I really don't want to know or even see a still from one of those videos.

Not incidentally but what is it with a few African-Americans or Black Brits wanting to behead people, other than being relatively recent converts to Islam ?

Oh and there was a case a month ago about a British guy, with mental health issues, running amok and  beheading an elderly neighbour, in I think Birmingham.  It's like some sick 21st century meme.  <_<
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Viking on September 27, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
Yes, Islam is a Religion of peace and has nothing to do with terrorism, beheading or any violence of any kind and anybody who says that is an Islamophobe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza#Islamic_primary_sources
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Neil on September 27, 2014, 10:18:56 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 27, 2014, 08:03:05 AM
CEO of that company is a reserve police, he's the one who shot / disabled the attacker.

That's how you know you're in Oklahoma.
Fucking CEOs.  As if the 1% wasn't bad enough, now they're just going around shooting their former employees.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: DGuller on September 27, 2014, 10:26:44 AM
Quote from: Kleves on September 27, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
Wouldn't it take a pretty long time to behead someone with a knife?
You can get pretty good at it with a bit of practice.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Syt on September 27, 2014, 10:31:42 AM
I suppose you would cut through the soft bits first (and make sure to stand behind the beheadee), and then make sure you cut between the vertebrae. Otherwise I would think it's like cutting a salami/breat with a short knife - start on one side and work your way around. Depending on sharpness and length of knife and supposing the victim is unable to resist because he/she is unconscious, I guess it could easily be done in under a minute if you practice your technique.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: viper37 on September 27, 2014, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 27, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
Yes, Islam is a Religion of peace and has nothing to do with terrorism, beheading or any violence of any kind and anybody who says that is an Islamophobe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza#Islamic_primary_sources

that was the cultural custom of the time.
It's not like the Christian crusaders were pacifists, you know.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 27, 2014, 11:52:46 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 27, 2014, 10:34:51 AM
It's not like the Christian crusaders were pacifists, you know.

Well, good to see there's a Euroweenie moral equivalency to be made between shit that went down ten centuries ago and, oh, Tuesday.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: The Brain on September 27, 2014, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 27, 2014, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 27, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
Yes, Islam is a Religion of peace and has nothing to do with terrorism, beheading or any violence of any kind and anybody who says that is an Islamophobe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza#Islamic_primary_sources

that was the cultural custom of the time.
It's not like the Christian crusaders were pacifists, you know.

And once numerous Christians in the West run around beheading people it will be relevant! :cheers:
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Sheilbh on September 27, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 27, 2014, 01:34:07 AM
An ISIS fanboy?  :hmm:
I think mental health issues, plus online videos from ISIS are more likely to be the issue.

There was a beheading in London recently by a man with severe mental problems. I think it's maybe a bit like school shootings (except with an online video he can watch) in that the sort of saturation coverage the videos get doesn't help.

I feel the advice given in school shootings would be best followed here. But then it's not normally followed anyway so...
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: derspiess on September 27, 2014, 01:49:59 PM
Good news is he wasn't Islamic.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Razgovory on September 27, 2014, 01:50:51 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 27, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
Yes, Islam is a Religion of peace and has nothing to do with terrorism, beheading or any violence of any kind and anybody who says that is an Islamophobe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza#Islamic_primary_sources (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza#Islamic_primary_sources)

Are you done yet?
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Neil on September 27, 2014, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 27, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
I think it's maybe a bit like school shootings (except with an online video he can watch) in that the sort of saturation coverage the videos get doesn't help.
I'm always surprised that there's never any video of school shootings.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Valmy on September 27, 2014, 05:04:14 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 27, 2014, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 27, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
Yes, Islam is a Religion of peace and has nothing to do with terrorism, beheading or any violence of any kind and anybody who says that is an Islamophobe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza#Islamic_primary_sources

that was the cultural custom of the time.
It's not like the Christian crusaders were pacifists, you know.

Are you under the bizarre impression that Viking is a big fan of Christianity? :lol:

You new here?
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: HVC on September 27, 2014, 05:12:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 27, 2014, 05:04:14 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 27, 2014, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 27, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
Yes, Islam is a Religion of peace and has nothing to do with terrorism, beheading or any violence of any kind and anybody who says that is an Islamophobe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza#Islamic_primary_sources

that was the cultural custom of the time.
It's not like the Christian crusaders were pacifists, you know.

Are you under the bizarre impression that Viking is a big fan of Christianity? :lol:

You new here?
ya, he dislikes all religious, he just doesn't dislike them all equally :D
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Razgovory on September 27, 2014, 06:03:39 PM
Yes his hatred is not equal.  Perhaps he can set a camp to sort them out.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: DGuller on September 27, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 27, 2014, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 27, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
I think it's maybe a bit like school shootings (except with an online video he can watch) in that the sort of saturation coverage the videos get doesn't help.
I'm always surprised that there's never any video of school shootings.
I imagine most schools do not allow students to record videos with their phone.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: DGuller on September 27, 2014, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 27, 2014, 06:03:39 PM
Yes his hatred is not equal.  Perhaps he can set a camp to sort them out.
Your hatred of Viking seems far more visceral and irrational than Viking's hatred of religion.
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Ed Anger on September 27, 2014, 07:46:23 PM
Spare not the Athiest. That way lies damnation and douchebaggery.

-St Raz
The basement papers
Title: Re: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
Post by: Razgovory on September 27, 2014, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 27, 2014, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 27, 2014, 06:03:39 PM
Yes his hatred is not equal.  Perhaps he can set a camp to sort them out.
Your hatred of Viking seems far more visceral and irrational than Viking's hatred of religion.

I do not hate Viking. :huh:  I have never said that, nor have have I given the impression.  I like Viking, I just wish he wasn't so intolerant.  Now, I don't think Viking likes me well, I've made him see something in him that he doesn't care for.  I find the sarcastic quips of "religion of peace", terribly unpleasant.  They remind me of the sarcastic quips of "the Chosen people", or "Chosen race" that anti-Semites made prior to WWII.