http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/where-in-the-uk-should-you-actually-live
QuoteYou got: Newcastle
You're forthright, with an amazing sense of humour. You're practical, but not stuffy. Go North, you're clearly a native Geordie.
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Noooooo! :Embarrass:
Incidentally, though, Newcastle is one of the few UK cities I actually want to visit.
One of us! One of us!
I got Newcastle too. :lol:
Guess it works.
London, obvs. :bowler:
You're energetic, driven and aren't afraid of striking out on your own. London may be overwhelming for some but you can make it work. It's the capital for a reason.
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I got London.
2 Rugby choices but none of the major American sports*, meh. Also don't like coffee or tea.
*Not that they meant anyway
London
Brighton :huh:
QuoteYou got: Manchester
Basically the capital of the North. Winterfell, if you will. You're driven and sociable, but far too nice for "that London".
I think I'd have a more accurate result if I knew what half that stuff on that survey actually meant.
Fish & Chips or Chips & Chippy Sauce? There's a difference?
Belfast.
And I'm more London that the artful dodger eating jellied eel singing the Lambeth Walk. Crap survey.
Belfast!
QuoteYou see the best in everything, and don't mind being creative with your options. Belfast welcomes you - from music to food to arts, it's all yours for the taking.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 08:51:11 AM
QuoteYou got: Manchester
Basically the capital of the North. Winterfell, if you will. You're driven and sociable, but far too nice for "that London".
I think I'd have a more accurate result if I knew what half that stuff on that survey actually meant.
Fish & Chips or Chips & Chippy Sauce? There's a difference?
You don't know the difference between a fish and a sauce?
In fairness, I've never heard of chippy sauce. Must be a northern thing.
Quote from: Gups on January 30, 2014, 08:57:14 AM
You don't know the difference between a fish and a sauce?
In fairness, I've never heard of chippy sauce. Must be a northern thing.
A quick google confirmed my suspicion that it was a regionalization for brown sauce.
Anyway, I got London. It was probably my bag-still-in, strong-as-hell tea that put it over the line.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 30, 2014, 09:06:45 AM
Anyway, I got London. It was probably my bag-still-in, strong-as-hell tea that put it over the line.
That's probably points for the north what with it being unsophisticated and functional.
Quote from: Tyr on January 30, 2014, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 30, 2014, 09:06:45 AM
Anyway, I got London. It was probably my bag-still-in, strong-as-hell tea that put it over the line.
That's probably points for the north what with it being unsophisticated and functional.
Ah, see my reasoning was that it was "too American" and thus belonged in London with the silly internationals.
you wouldn't be caught dead living in the hellscape that is the UK. An oppressive nanny state clogged with petty criminals and dirty foreigners.
Quote from: Gups on January 30, 2014, 08:57:14 AM
You don't know the difference between a fish and a sauce?
In fairness, I've never heard of chippy sauce. Must be a northern thing.
Don't chips in "Fish & Chips" come with a sauce anyway? Who eats that shit dry? And if "chippy sauce" = "sauce for chips", isn't that the same thing as the sauce that comes with Fish & Chips?
That's like saying Burger & Fries and Fries & Ketchup: the ketchup is implied in the former, even if outlined in the latter.
What the fuck is going on over there?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 09:14:57 AM
Quote from: Gups on January 30, 2014, 08:57:14 AM
You don't know the difference between a fish and a sauce?
In fairness, I've never heard of chippy sauce. Must be a northern thing.
Don't chips in "Fish & Chips" come with a sauce anyway? Who eats that shit dry? And if "chippy sauce" = "sauce for chips", isn't that the same thing as the sauce that comes with Fish & Chips?
That's like saying Burger & Fries and Fries & Ketchup: the ketchup is implied in the former, even if outlined in the latter.
What the fuck is going on over there?
Let's not even get into Jaffa cakes, which are a cookie.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 30, 2014, 09:03:57 AM
A quick google confirmed my suspicion that it was a regionalization for brown sauce.
Hurl.
It's tartar sauce or death.
QuoteYou got: Liverpool
Game for anything, you are the person everyone wants to know. Liverpool welcomes you with open arms, and a glam, raucous night out.
Sweet.
Quote from: Gups on January 30, 2014, 08:54:44 AM
And I'm more London that the artful dodger eating jellied eel singing the Lambeth Walk.
:lol:
Quote from: Valmy on January 30, 2014, 09:18:27 AM
QuoteYou got: Liverpool
Game for anything, you are the person everyone wants to know. Liverpool welcomes you with open arms, and a glam, raucous night out.
Sweet.
Your hubcaps just got stolen.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 08:51:11 AM
I think I'd have a more accurate result if I knew what half that stuff on that survey actually meant.
ain`t that right
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 30, 2014, 09:16:36 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 09:14:57 AM
Quote from: Gups on January 30, 2014, 08:57:14 AM
You don't know the difference between a fish and a sauce?
In fairness, I've never heard of chippy sauce. Must be a northern thing.
Don't chips in "Fish & Chips" come with a sauce anyway? Who eats that shit dry? And if "chippy sauce" = "sauce for chips", isn't that the same thing as the sauce that comes with Fish & Chips?
That's like saying Burger & Fries and Fries & Ketchup: the ketchup is implied in the former, even if outlined in the latter.
What the fuck is going on over there?
Let's not even get into Jaffa cakes, which are a cookie.
No, Jaffa Cakes are cakes. It was proven in a court case by McVites (the manufacturer), regarding whether they qualified for zero rate or normal VAT (Cakes are zero-rated, biscuits aren't).
Ah jaffa cakes.....why oh why haven't they spread beyond the British Isles? All foreigners who I have fed the blessed cakes agreed they were what god snacks on.
Oh, I feasted on the Polack versions that was sold in Big Lots stores.
I got Cornwall; I am Languish's Sir Tristan.
Frisch weht der Wind
Der Heimat zu,
Mein Irisch Kind,
Wo weilest du?
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 30, 2014, 09:16:36 AM
Let's not even get into Jaffa cakes, which are a cookie.
No, they're legally defined as a cake, which means they're not liable for VAT. Biscuits go soft when they're stale; cakes go hard.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/vfoodmanual/vfood6260.htm (http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/vfoodmanual/vfood6260.htm)
Quote from: Brazen on January 30, 2014, 09:32:55 AM
Biscuits go soft when they're stale; cakes go hard.
Then call me Cake Boss.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 30, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
Your hubcaps just got stolen.
Never! My beloved Scousers would never steal my hubcabs...they are plastic after all.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 09:14:57 AM
Don't chips in "Fish & Chips" come with a sauce anyway? Who eats that shit dry? And if "chippy sauce" = "sauce for chips", isn't that the same thing as the sauce that comes with Fish & Chips?
That's like saying Burger & Fries and Fries & Ketchup: the ketchup is implied in the former, even if outlined in the latter.
What the fuck is going on over there?
Just salt and vinegar are the traditional dressings for fish and chips.
"Chippy sauce" is an Edinburgh speciality - brown sauce diluted with water or malt vinegar.
Other traditional sauces are curry sauce or gravy (Ireland, Wales and Northern England).
Ketchup is popular, and us southern poshoes like a bit of tartar sauce (just for fish, only salt and vinegar on the chips).
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Ed anger review: not bad, considering the name.
"Chippy sauce" for some reason reminded me of the word "cheeky". I hate that word. Don`t ask me why. Makes me cringe.
Edinburgh :hmm:
Disliked this quiz as some of the options were strange. I didn't see a milk and sugar option for the tea question. Changing that answer shifted me from my first result "Newcastle"(milk) to "Liverpool" (two sugars).
Oh and I picked the Hobbit as I believe he just does the voice in that one (i.e. can escape seeing his not actually attractive face). :D
Quote from: garbon on January 30, 2014, 09:59:57 AM
Oh and I picked the Hobbit as I believe he just does the voice in that one (i.e. can escape seeing his not actually attractive face). :D
Yeah he was the Dragon.
I got Edinburgh.
Probably for answering the sports answer as with "curling". :scots:
Cornwall.
Huh, second time around, I got Newcastle. :weep:
Liverpool :hmm:
L.
Actually, now that I stop and think about it, me as a Geordie isn't that surprising. I tend to make a habit of slipping into Geordie-speak when I'm trying to annoy people. :hmm:
I don't have to take this quiz to know the answer is London.
Quote from: Barrister on January 30, 2014, 11:28:41 AM
I got Edinburgh.
Probably for answering the sports answer as with "curling". :scots:
*takes a drink*
Quote from: Brazen on January 30, 2014, 05:59:26 AM
London, obvs. :bowler:
You're energetic, driven and aren't afraid of striking out on your own. London may be overwhelming for some but you can make it work. It's the capital for a reason.
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Uh, isn't the whole point of Get Carter that Jack Carter isn't from London?
Also, I got Belfast.
That might not be Get Carter, the suit doesn't look like tonic mohair. That was the best suit ever. :wub:
Hanging out with Pedrito And Beeb's american cousin in Shelfs hood.
That Caine photo's from Alfie, I think.
Quote from: katmai on January 30, 2014, 03:23:07 PM
Hanging out with Pedrito And Beeb's american cousin in Shelfs hood.
Did you pick curling too? :scots: :w00t:
Quote from: Brazen on January 30, 2014, 03:28:29 PM
That Caine photo's from Alfie, I think.
Yeah. His hair isn't as wonderful and his sideburns aren't as long as they were in Carter.
Liverpool.
Quote from: Barrister on January 30, 2014, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 30, 2014, 03:23:07 PM
Hanging out with Pedrito And Beeb's american cousin in Shelfs hood.
Did you pick curling too? :scots: :w00t:
Fuck no. Football4Life!
LAHNDAHN
Edit: in all seriousness, this quiz needs a subsection, Which Area of London Should You Live?
I got: London
Quote from: Barrister on January 30, 2014, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 30, 2014, 03:23:07 PM
Hanging out with Pedrito And Beeb's american cousin in Shelfs hood.
Did you pick curling too? :scots: :w00t:
Of course not, he is in Liverpool. He obviously picked football :hug:
I got Brighton. Brits, tell me what that means. :bowler:
Quote from: FunkMonk on January 30, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
I got Brighton. Brits, tell me what that means. :bowler:
Beach with the Royal Pavilion. Gays!
Quote from: garbon on January 30, 2014, 05:53:31 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on January 30, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
I got Brighton. Brits, tell me what that means. :bowler:
Beach with the Royal Pavilion. Gays!
And treehuggers! AFAIK it's the only city ruled by the Green party in the UK.
I got Liverpool.
Belfast, Hum.
Quote from: FunkMonk on January 30, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
I got Brighton. Brits, tell me what that means. :bowler:
Britain's San Francisco :)
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 30, 2014, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on January 30, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
I got Brighton. Brits, tell me what that means. :bowler:
Britain's San Francisco :)
Freezing cold in the summer? Pass.
Quote from: Valmy on January 30, 2014, 06:19:09 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 30, 2014, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on January 30, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
I got Brighton. Brits, tell me what that means. :bowler:
Britain's San Francisco :)
Freezing cold in the summer? Pass.
Freezing? Pah. Just jeans and hoodie weather.
Liverpool.
But then I'm a lookalike of a Fab Four or so I was told.
How the fuck can I be the only Languishite that winds up in Manchester? And what exactly does that mean?
I got Newcastle. I can dig it.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 07:05:26 PM
How the fuck can I be the only Languishite that winds up in Manchester? And what exactly does that mean?
You're your own special snowflake. :)
Quote from: garbon on January 30, 2014, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 07:05:26 PM
How the fuck can I be the only Languishite that winds up in Manchester? And what exactly does that mean?
You're your own special snowflake. :)
I need Brits to tell me what the fuck is up with Manchester.. All I know is that Man U is there (bad), and The Smiths and some other bad ass bands are from there (good).
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 30, 2014, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on January 30, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
I got Brighton. Brits, tell me what that means. :bowler:
Britain's San Francisco :)
That's cool. I can live with that.
Cornwall. :)
I got: Liverpool. Didn't realize George Harrison's skin was so nasty.
WTF is "Parmo?"
WTF is a Cumberbatch?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 30, 2014, 08:40:57 PM
WTF is a Cumberbatch?
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Cumberbatch is an actor.
I'd guess Parmo is Parmesan cheese. Kind of odd choice to eat by itself though.
Belfast. Understood very few questions.
My guess was that Parmo is some kind of milk of magnesia deal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmo
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 08:42:52 PM
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Ironic that you would use a pic of Martin Freeman to reply to a comment about Benedict Cumberbatch. :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 30, 2014, 09:00:19 PM
Cumberbatch is an actor.
Is this some of that cockney rhyming slang nonsense?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 30, 2014, 09:50:12 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 30, 2014, 09:00:19 PM
Cumberbatch is an actor.
Is this some of that cockney rhyming slang nonsense?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch)
OK, the unfortunate name aside, why does that mean actor?
London. :cool:
Yi, it is asking you to choose one of his performances.
:face:
My bad.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 30, 2014, 08:40:57 PM
WTF is "Parmo?"
I had to look it up. Apparently it's a fried breadcrumbed chicken topped with cheesy bechamel sauce. A fast food delicacy of Middlesbrough :)
I went with the Austrian staple - kebab.
What exactly does kebab mean?
In American English it usually refers to shish kebab, meat and veg on a skewer, but obviously it means something more general.
Kebab means "meat", IIRC. So Döner Kebab would be rotating meat in Turkish (like Gyros):
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A döner kebab in Germany/Austria usually means that meat on a sandwich:
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In Germany the sandwich would be called in short "Döner", in Austria "Kebab".
Kebabs are post-pub food generally. The inferior doner is more popular because it can be served imediately. Folks don't want to wait for 5-10 mins for a shish
In British kebab shops you ask for chicken or lamb; shish or doner. There's a few more exotic varieties like kofte, which is minced lamb on a stick. And you can always get a "mixed kebab" if you can't decide. Or just (doner) kebab meat and chips.
They are generally served in a pitta bread with a pile of salad and either chilli sauce (tomato-based) or garlic sauce (mayonnaise).
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Or in a wrap:
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Interestingly, I'd only had lamb doners in pitta bread with chilli sauce until a London Languish meet where I was introduced to chicken doner, wraps and garlic sauce all in one drunk, delicious go. Thanks Shelf :bowler:
As I side note, I just remarked at work how difficult it was to find an appetising photos of a doner kebab, and got the reply, "There's a good reason for that..." :P
The wraps go by Dürüm Kebab here. Or just Dürüm.
Most places have chicken or lamb, rarely you may find beef.
Fun factoid: on the 7-10 minute walk from the subway to my apartment I pass three Turkish restaurants and half a dozen kebab shops.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 07:16:25 PM
I need Brits to tell me what the fuck is up with Manchester.. All I know is that Man U is there (bad), and The Smiths and some other bad ass bands are from there (good).
England's second city.
Half of the country's good music does seem to come from there.
In many ways a scaled down London.
We have pretty much all the same stuff, just that we go with Lebanese/Greek whatever names instead of the, what...Turkish? Pakistani??
Depends where you are, Yi. We've at least a few Turkish versions here.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 31, 2014, 05:45:24 AM
We have pretty much all the same stuff, just that we go with Lebanese/Greek whatever names instead of the, what...Turkish? Pakistani??
Turkish for us.
@Grab On.
You can find a Mongolian restaurant somewhere in NYC. In 99.9% of the US, it's going to be called a gyro.
I don't think that's true. Many parts of the us don't even say gyro.
Quick search and SF is split between gyro shops and kebab (not shish).
Quote from: Syt on January 31, 2014, 05:57:01 AM
Turkish for us.
So Doner Kebab is Turkish, right? Now that makes sense in Germany with your Turkish population, but why did the UK go with Turkish? Surely there are more Levantines in the UK than Turks.
Kebab is still called called
Sandwich grec in Paris, less so in the
province. Döner is seldom used.
But then the sandwich grec appeared in Greek restaurants and was not seen cheap, fast food at first in the '70s, it was also called gyros. It changed in the '90s.
If the kebab/gyros it's with beef, it's called
Sandwich américain sometimes.
Quote from: Syt on January 31, 2014, 05:37:01 AM
The wraps go by Dürüm Kebab here. Or just Dürüm.
Most places have chicken or lamb, rarely you may find beef.
Fun factoid: on the 7-10 minute walk from the subway to my apartment I pass three Turkish restaurants and half a dozen kebab shops.
:secret:
I confirm since Syt lives in the Barbès-Rochechouart area of Vienna.
It freaked me out in Paris when I walked by gyro joints and saw big cones of raw stacked lamb, all red and primitive looking.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 31, 2014, 06:08:59 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 31, 2014, 05:57:01 AM
Turkish for us.
So Doner Kebab is Turkish, right? Now that makes sense in Germany with your Turkish population, but why did the UK go with Turkish? Surely there are more Levantines in the UK than Turks.
I think it may be due to Turkish Cypriots. I had my first doner kebab back in the 1970s in London, it was a novelty to me at that time (moving down from Newcastle). The kebab place was run by Turkish Cypriots and they (Turkish Cypriots generally that is) were early immigrants to the UK (starting in the 1920s). Later on kebab shops were opened by all sorts of other nationalities but by that time the name of the food was fixed.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 31, 2014, 06:29:09 AM
It freaked me out in Paris when I walked by gyro joints and saw big cones of raw stacked lamb, all red and primitive looking.
Similar to this?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab
QuoteAustria
Doner kebab shops can be found in all cities across Austria. Kebabs (rarely referred to as "Döner") outsell burgers or the traditional Würstel (sausage) stands.[35] The range of doner is similar to other German speaking countries, but one is more likely to find a chicken kebab in central Vienna than lamb or beef kebab.
Germany
A version developed to suit German tastes by Turkish immigrants in Berlin has become one of Germany's most popular fast food dishes. Annual sales in Germany amount to €2.5 billion.[41] Veal, chicken, and becoming increasingly more popular, turkey ("Truthahn"), are widely used instead of lamb, particularly by vendors with large ethnic German customer bases, for whom lamb is traditionally less preferred.
Döner, common German style (Berlin)
Typically, along with the meat, a salad consisting of chopped lettuce, cabbage, onions, cucumber, and tomatoes is offered, as well as a choice of sauces like hot sauce, herb sauce, garlic sauce, or yogurt sauce. The filling is served in a thick flatbread that is usually toasted or warmed. A German variety of döner presentation is achieved by placing the döner meat and the add-ons on a lahmacun and then rolling the ingredients inside the dough into a tube that is eaten out of a wrapping of usually aluminum foil, sometimes called "Türkische Pizza". When plain dough is used instead of Lahmacun the rolled fast food is called "Dürüm Döner" or "Yufka Döner."
Tarkan Taşyumruk, president of the Association of Turkish Döner Producers in Europe (ATDID), provided information in 2010 that, every day, more than 400 tonnes of döner kebab meat is produced in Germany by around 350 firms. At the same ATDID fair, Taşyumruk stated that, "Annual sales in Germany amount to €2.5 billion. That shows we are one of the biggest fast-foods in Germany." In many cities throughout Germany, "Döner" is at least as popular as hamburgers or sausages, especially with young people.[41]
In the year 2011 there were over 16,000 places that sold Döner in Germany with yearly sales of €3.5 billion.[42]
Germany's large Turkish community is probably the biggest reason for the widespread sale of döner kebap sales there:[citation needed] from the late 1960s on, large numbers of Turks were invited to come to Germany as guest workers, to help fill the shortage of labour found during the Wirtschaftswunder, after World War II. Many of these Turkish workers eventually stayed in Germany, some opening small food shops and takeaways, which was an excellent option in terms of progressing from some of the more menial jobs that could have otherwise awaited them.
According to The Independent, Kadir Nurman (1933-2013) is largely credited with having invented the doner kebab.[
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 31, 2014, 06:08:59 AM
So Doner Kebab is Turkish, right? Now that makes sense in Germany with your Turkish population, but why did the UK go with Turkish? Surely there are more Levantines in the UK than Turks.
I can't speak for the rest of the country, but my particular enclave of North London has a massive population of second/third generation Turks, Greeks and Cypriots who run most of the kebab, fish and chip and barber shops. Turk vs. Greek gang violence is one of the biggest drivers of murders hereabouts.
Strangely, there are no Polish restaurants here yet :hmm:
I ask the Lebanese resturant to hold the veggies. Lettuce and tomatoes. :yucky:
Quote from: Brazen on January 31, 2014, 07:03:30 AMI can't speak for the rest of the country
I'll take Things Londeners Are Unlikely To Say for 300, please, Alex.
Quote from: Syt on January 31, 2014, 07:09:08 AM
Quote from: Brazen on January 31, 2014, 07:03:30 AMI can't speak for the rest of the country
I'll take Things Londeners Are Unlikely To Say for 300, please, Alex.
:lmfao:
You're almost not foreign.
Quote from: Tyr on January 31, 2014, 05:40:58 AM
England's second city.
Half of the country's good music does seem to come from there.
In many ways a scaled down London.
If you ask a Manc what England's second city is he'll say Manchester
If you ask a Brummie, he'll say Birmingham
If you ask a tyke, he'll say Leeds
If you ask a scouser, he'll say London
Manchester is a great city in many ways but it isn't a scaled down London in any way at all. It's a proper northern provincial city with no buildings from before 1820, lots of energy, rain and pissed up girls in impossibly short skirts.
Calling it a scaled-down London is a bit of an insult really. It is a different sort of place to London and that is precisely what a lot of people seem to like about it.
I also got Manchester. -_-
It does heavily strike me as a smaller London. Not an exact analogy by any means but somewhat.
Big, grey, lots of international business, lots of crime, loads of minorities, imperial war museum.
And it is definitely England's second city.
Liverpool is a joke, rather cute in thinking it is a player. It would be in its best interests to throw its weight behind Manchester alas sadly their attitude towards their regional centre makes people from Sunderland look indistinguishable to those from Byker.
Leeds is quite secure in knowing it is 4th. I've never heard anything from Tykes claiming Leeds to beat Manchester according to any metric other than just being a nicer place to live.
Birmingham is the only competitor and back in the 80s it was the second city but things have changed. Manchester wins in pretty much every category.
I actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea to make Manchester the capital. One of the problems in the UK right now is that it's so London-centric, what with it being the main political, financial and cultural capital of the country, which is driving x10 as much investment into it as any other city. Moving the capital to Manchester would at least remove the political aspect from London, create lots of new jobs and reinvigorate the economy in the North, and actually make HS2 worthwhile.
Besides it's quite common for countries to have separate financial & political poles. Washington / New York, Berlin/Frankfurt, etc
It's so fun watching the provincials argue. Here chaps, have some more benefits.
Quote from: Warspite on January 31, 2014, 08:42:53 AM
It's so fun watching the provincials argue. Here chaps, have some more benefits.
Thank'ee your honour (tugs forelock) :P
I got Budleigh Salterton. I must have done something wrong.
My Argentine friend said there are only two restaurants in Manchester. I would not want to live there.
Quote from: garbon on January 31, 2014, 05:59:36 AM
I don't think that's true. Many parts of the us don't even say gyro.
Well I can say for sure in Texas that is something you get a Greek restaurant and it is called a Gyro. I was with Yi on this one. Also when people were saying 'kebab' I was also thinking shish kebab. Maybe he is speaking for us here in flyover America.
Quote from: PJL on January 31, 2014, 08:29:10 AM
One of the problems in the UK right now is that it's so London-centric, what with it being the main political, financial and cultural capital of the country, which is driving x10 as much investment into it as any other city.
Yeah Paris and London are to France and the UK what a combination of DC/LA/New York/Chicago would be to the US. It is just crazy how dominant those cities are in every aspect of life.
Quote from: FunkMonk on January 31, 2014, 08:58:14 AM
My Argentine friend said there are only two restaurants in Manchester. I would not want to live there.
Manchester has long been notorius lack of good quality restaurants. I don't think there's a single Michelin star in the city. It's improved recently thought with 3-4 well-reviewed high quality openings.
Quote from: PJL on January 31, 2014, 08:29:10 AM
I actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea to make Manchester the capital. One of the problems in the UK right now is that it's so London-centric, what with it being the main political, financial and cultural capital of the country, which is driving x10 as much investment into it as any other city. Moving the capital to Manchester would at least remove the political aspect from London, create lots of new jobs and reinvigorate the economy in the North, and actually make HS2 worthwhile.
The UK has a very good geography for high-speed rail, better than France for that matter. It's not like it needs as many lines as France which is bigger and not as densely populated. It needs one north of London to Birmingham, then branching out to Manchester and Liverpool to the NW, as well as Leeds and York to the NE. Newcastle will have to wait a bit and linking Scotland might be not worthwile.
So Manchester capital or not is irrelevant. It does not make sense why they are waiting for so long, NIMBY-ism does not explain it nor the privatisation.
Quote from: Valmy on January 31, 2014, 09:07:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on January 31, 2014, 05:59:36 AM
I don't think that's true. Many parts of the us don't even say gyro.
Well I can say for sure in Texas that is something you get a Greek restaurant and it is called a Gyro. I was with Yi on this one. Also when people were saying 'kebab' I was also thinking shish kebab. Maybe he is speaking for us here in flyover America.
The other issue is the pronunciation: Do you say "jye-ro"; "yee-ro"; or something else? I think I unconsciously alternate depending on how old-country (Greek, Lebanese, etc.) the person I'm talking to is, and also say "jee-ro" which is something in the middle.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 31, 2014, 09:45:59 AMThe other issue is the pronunciation: Do you say "jye-ro"; "yee-ro"; or something else? I think I unconsciously alternate depending on how old-country (Greek, Lebanese, etc.) the person I'm talking to is, and also say "jee-ro" which is something in the middle.
I have heard all three heh. I say 'jee-ro' even though I am pretty sure that is wrong.
All the Arab food shops call it diner here as well. Though they're more likely to have shwarma as well, which is what I thought gyro was.
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 31, 2014, 10:18:15 AM
All the Arab food shops call it diner here as well. Though they're more likely to have shwarma as well, which is what I thought gyro was.
I think Gyro is used for both.
The sandwich in question is typically sold as a "donair" here in Alberta (or gyro at a specifically Greek joint).
So fucking hungry.
Quote from: Valmy on January 31, 2014, 10:28:26 AM
I think Gyro is used for both.
http://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/7695/what-is-the-difference-between-shawarma-and-gyros
It's another case of traditional food being changed to suit American palates; if you get them from your average street vendor, it's all about quick and cheap, so the difference is largely who's making it. You'd need to go to a serious Greek or Mediterranean restaurant to really get dishes that are different from each other, since street vendors are likely to use the same cold tray selections of lettuce, tomato, and onion. Some shawarma vendors may even use tzatziki, because it's quick and cheap to make (a passable tzatziki can just be plain yogurt, cucumbers, and dill).
Quote from: Queequeg on January 31, 2014, 10:45:08 AM
So fucking hungry.
Go back to eating your shit Chicago food.
Gyros are not that traditional. Like Constantine and Mehmet would not have enjoyed a Doner/Gyro before the fall of Constantinople I don't think.
Hey look what Wiki says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_(food) :
QuoteAlong with the similar Middle Eastern shawarma and Mexican tacos al pastor, gyros is derived from the Turkish doner kebab, which was invented in Bursa in the 19th century. There are several stories regarding the origins of gyros in Greece; despite these backformations the first documented use of "gyro" takes place in the United States
No wonder we use 'gyro' it is the proper American name for it.
Quote from: Valmy on January 31, 2014, 10:55:29 AM
No wonder we use 'gyro' it is the proper American name for it.
Yeah, it's just a shame nobody can agree on how to pronounce it: S and I were watching a contest show on food network, and within five minutes, we heard different people in the same conversation say "GEE-roe," "GUY-roe," "JEE-roe," "JAI-roe," and "YEE-roe" (which is the one I'd always been led to believe was the "correct" pronunciation).
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 31, 2014, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 31, 2014, 10:55:29 AM
No wonder we use 'gyro' it is the proper American name for it.
Yeah, it's just a shame nobody can agree on how to pronounce it: S and I were watching a contest show on food network, and within five minutes, we heard different people in the same conversation say "GEE-roe," "GUY-roe," "JEE-roe," "JAI-roe," and "YEE-roe" (which is the one I'd always been led to believe was the "correct" pronunciation).
Seems relatively unimportant though.
Quote from: garbon on January 31, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
Seems relatively unimportant though.
It is. I never claimed it was anything more than a minor annoyance. Although, come to the South Jersey shore and say anything other than "JAI-roe," and you will be laughed out of at least one restaurant.
I say Jai roh if it's a Greek place, hee roh if it's an Arab place.
"A Greek place"? :x
I don't know where you guys got that Doner is from Bursa. Iskender kebab is from there, and I ate it at the place it was invented, but general doner ("to turn") is from the east, around Erzurum. I think it has some roots in shepherd and pastoralist's fair. Cag kebabi is from there.
Bursa is really neat, btw. IDK if it's worth a visit if you are only in Istanbul for a few days, but there's a whole lot of beautiful preserved Ottoman streets and some wonderful very early Ottoman architecture, including the charming Grand Mosque. Ulu dag, a mountain nearby, is also very pretty.
Quote from: Queequeg on January 31, 2014, 04:39:12 PM
I don't know where you guys got that Doner is from Bursa.
Seriously? That was in a quote from Wiki, none of us claimed it, and I posted a link.
It's hard sometimes for fallen Mormons to tell Gentiles apart.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 31, 2014, 06:08:59 AMSurely there are more Levantines in the UK than Turks.
Actually no. Apparently there's around 500 000 Turkish (or Turkish Cypriot) born in the UK and the Turkish British population'll be even bigger. I'm almost certain the Arab British population is far smaller than that.
I don't know how it is over there but at least in my hometown not a single kebab shop is actually run by turks, it's mostly assorted indian subcontinent people.
Best kebab I've ever had was from this little place right outside St. Clement Basilica in Rome. I'm getting hungry just thinking about it. :licklips:
Quote from: Warspite on January 30, 2014, 04:24:30 PM
LAHNDAHN
Edit: in all seriousness, this quiz needs a subsection, Which Area of London Should You Live?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/where-in-london-should-you-actually-live
I got Clapham. :unsure:
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
Quote from: Warspite on January 30, 2014, 04:24:30 PM
LAHNDAHN
Edit: in all seriousness, this quiz needs a subsection, Which Area of London Should You Live?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/where-in-london-should-you-actually-live
I got Clapham. :unsure:
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
Also, I got Peckham. :unsure:
I got Borough... I think I visited the Borough market ten years ago or something.
Fulham
Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
I got Borough... I think I visited the Borough market ten years ago or something.
Borough too. We could be neighbours! :cheers:
I also got Peckham. I live in Peckham.
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 01, 2014, 01:17:17 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 31, 2014, 06:08:59 AMSurely there are more Levantines in the UK than Turks.
Actually no. Apparently there's around 500 000 Turkish (or Turkish Cypriot) born in the UK and the Turkish British population'll be even bigger. I'm almost certain the Arab British population is far smaller than that.
One of my favorite random encounters was with a gay, young, lower-middle class Turkish Londoner along the Aegean who kept complaining about the "bloody Turks" at every opportunity. It was kind of hilarious.
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2014, 02:24:42 PM
I also got Peckham. I live in Peckham.
So those of you actually familiar with London neighbourhood stereotypes, what do the various places allegedly indicate about us?
Fulham.
"You're a classy one, that's for sure. The word 'leafy' was made for you. Your tastes are simple but refined. An elegant and stately Fulham house by the river would suit you down to the ground."
My reward for not knowing who Craig David is :cool:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 05, 2014, 04:20:54 PM
My reward for not knowing who Craig David is :cool:
I know who he is but selected that option as I don't recall liking any of his songs. Still didn't make me classier. -_-
Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2014, 02:58:42 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2014, 02:24:42 PM
I also got Peckham. I live in Peckham.
So those of you actually familiar with London neighbourhood stereotypes, what do the various places allegedly indicate about us?
Let me see, it means that me and Syt are stylish and classy; Warspite and Shielbh are yobboes; you and the Larch are trendy bohemians; and that Garbon likes to go badger-spotting on Clapham Common :hmm:
Typical :(
Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2014, 02:58:42 PM
So those of you actually familiar with London neighbourhood stereotypes, what do the various places allegedly indicate about us?
You and Larch are in a cool, central foody area. Me and Warspite are too cool for Shoreditch/Brooklyn/Berlin/ so in an area that's in the early days of gentrification. Syt and RH are classy at a dignified pace (and possibly outraged that their near neighbourhood is filled with garish Russian oligarchs).
Garbon is in the worst place in the world.
Borough as well I could stand Jacob and larch as neighbors.
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/where-in-london-should-you-actually-live
I got Clapham. :unsure:
Soho? :unsure:
I thought that was south of Houston Street in New York.
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2014, 07:00:26 PMSoho? :unsure:
I thought that was south of Houston Street in New York.
That's New York Soho (SoHo?).
Soho is central London. Historically the seedy bit of London on the edge of the theatre area: peep shows, brothels, gays and people who work in marketing. Now it's been gentrified. It's still the gayest bit of London, there's still a few sex shops and brothels but generally the media people have taken over <_<
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2014, 07:06:12 PMNow it's been gentrified.
That is just because the gays are becoming mainstream and respectable.
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2014, 07:03:54 PM
I fail to see how it could be worse than...let's say New Jersey.
Australians? :P
Clapham's got a lovely common which makes it very nice and a few decent pubs and restaurants. Maybe for families it's great. It's also basically where the British equivalent of fratboys go and live when they move into London and get jobs in the City.
In the day the Common's full of bros extreme frisbeeing and women paying to go through Army basic training. In the night everyone's on a pub crawl, often in fancy dress that, appropriately enough, normally ends up in Inferno. When you get to Inferno's you meet someone you knew and didn't like at university. Then you do shots. Then you cry in the foetal position. Every time.
Here's a defence of Clapham:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/samjparker/11-reasons-youre-wrong-to-hate-clapham
In the US gays are typically the main drivers of gentrification.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
In the US gays are typically the main drivers of gentrification.
I think it's more accurate to say that well-off urban professionals and the businesses which employ and cater to them, are the main driver of gentrification. This may include a larger percentage of gay people than average in the US, but it does not make the gays the main driver.
There are plenty of economically marginalized gay people; and there are plenty of straight people - and companies - involved in gentrification.
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2014, 07:00:26 PM
Soho? :unsure:
I thought that was south of Houston Street in New York.
From Soho down to Brighton, I must've played them all...
I got Peckham.
I got Clapham as well. I've lived & worked there before and it's OK although I couldn't afford it now. The Dairy gave me one of the best meals I've had in the last 5 years and the cinema decent. There are too many rugger buggesr there though and I'm not a fan of the common - Wandsworth Common and Brockwell Park are much more interesting.
Had no idea that you were in Peckham Shelf. Very exciting place these days - loads of great bars and restauraunts springing up.
A couple of my friends bought houses in Peckham back in the 1980s. They were starting families and had large book collections so needed space, they were on good but not fantastic salaries. I guess they made a good choice :cool:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 06, 2014, 05:39:16 AM
A couple of my friends bought houses in Peckham back in the 1980s. They were starting families and had large book collections so needed space, they were on good but not fantastic salaries. I guess they made a good choice :cool:
Hell yeah. There's some great houses around Pecham Rye. A 5 bedder in the early 80s would have been selling for what £15K, 20K? Nowadaays you are looking at well over a million.
My biggest financial mistake ever was not buying a 5 bed house in Brixton in the early 90s because I thought £60K was a bit steep for such a relentlessly grimy area. The same house sold a year ago for £1.5m
Peckham is the new Hackney, so the hipsters are moving in and still at the stage where they sit uncomfortably with the locals who are predominantly not white, university educated, or middle class.
Fulham is where people who work in finance and law start their families. The Australians and Saffers have moved across the water to Putney. There are some vestiges of the old white working class left in Fulham. Fun fact: Fulham is host to two football clubs -- Fulham FC, and Chelsea, which is closer to the centre of Fulham than Fulham FC is.
Clapham is a terrible place. People who live in Clapham list "the gym" as an interest.
How's Shoreditch? I will be staying with a friend there this summer and apparently it's Hipster Central around there...
It's very hipster, but that's not totally a bad thing. Loads of good places to eat and drink.
Shoreditch is walking distance to central London too, saves all that tedious mucking about with public transport.
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2014, 02:24:42 PM
I also got Peckham. I live in Peckham.
Lovely jubbly!
Me too, cushty!
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
I think it's more accurate to say that well-off urban professionals and the businesses which employ and cater to them, are the main driver of gentrification. This may include a larger percentage of gay people than average in the US, but it does not make the gays the main driver.
There are plenty of economically marginalized gay people; and there are plenty of straight people - and companies - involved in gentrification.
Not in my experience. Well off professionals don't need to buy a busted down property in the slum and fix it up.
Shoreditch isn't very hipster any more since it became Officially Cool.
The beardy fixie-riders all buggered off to Hackney, and then to Clapton (where there is now a creperie amongst the betting shops on murder mile) and Dalston, and I hear Camberwell is filling up with arty types now.
How does a Yookay hipster compare to an American hipster?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2014, 10:07:22 AM
Not in my experience. Well off professionals don't need to buy a busted down property in the slum and fix it up.
They probably do in London given the cost - especially creative professionals.
I think historically gays had to build up shitty areas because they wouldn't be allowed in already nice areas. Now I think they're more likely to be a sign that an area's gentrifying than the cause. Also I think it's more likely to have an effect in a smaller city (Liverpool and Manchester, say) than somewhere the size of London.
QuoteThe Dairy gave me one of the best meals I've had in the last 5 years and the cinema decent.
My flatmate raves about the Dairy (went there with his boss) I still haven't been.
QuoteHad no idea that you were in Peckham Shelf. Very exciting place these days - loads of great bars and restauraunts springing up.
It's great. I like it a lot. If you've not been I really recommend Peckham Bazaar.
QuoteHow's Shoreditch? I will be staying with a friend there this summer and apparently it's Hipster Central around there...
Shoreditch is great. I used to live near there (Whitechapel) and it's a really fun area.
QuoteHow does a Yookay hipster compare to an American hipster?
More or less the same I think. Based on the internet and a friend of a friend in Brooklyn.
QuoteI hear Camberwell is filling up with arty types now.
I think it must have always been a bit because there's a big college of art down here. But, yeah, recently two rival bike shops (also serving coffee) opened opposite each other in the same week. The area's arrived :)
Sadly I've not seen any new restaurants or bars - though there's some good ones anyway - but there's a few places being done up so :mmm:
London Hipsters, according to my Shoreditch buddy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I)
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 06, 2014, 11:17:27 AM
I think historically gays had to build up shitty areas because they wouldn't be allowed in already nice areas.
What??
I always figured it was because they enjoyed decorating and didn't have any kids to worry about.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2014, 11:28:58 AM
What??
I always figured it was because they enjoyed decorating and didn't have any kids to worry about.
Really?
That's why Stonewall was a mafia run bar. Why Soho was the gay area because it was already seedy with the sex shops, peep shows and brothels. Similarly why lots of disco started in people's apartments and run-down areas, or in the 80s why Earl's Court was a big gay and immigrant area.
I'd say until the 90s (at the earliest) most neighbourhoods didn't want the gays anywhere near them. The neighbourhoods with money had the education, connections and cash to stop them moving in.
Shelf
Been meaning to get to Peckham Bazaar for a while now. I'm a fan of the food blog the owner's girlfriend writes.
http://helengraves.co.uk/
I lived in Camberwell for years and it was really crap. Nowhere to drink, nowhere to eat excepy greasy spoons. Now it has some brilliant Spanish, Turkish and regional Chinese places. Can't believe it will ever become truly gentrified, with no tube station and the railway station a mile up the hill.
I'm now in West Norwood, whcih also has nowhere to drink or eat and appears to be the only place left in the inner suburbs not to be gentrified. I am the jonah of regeneration.
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 06, 2014, 11:34:03 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2014, 11:28:58 AM
What??
I always figured it was because they enjoyed decorating and didn't have any kids to worry about.
Really?
That's why Stonewall was a mafia run bar. Why Soho was the gay area because it was already seedy with the sex shops, peep shows and brothels. Similarly why lots of disco started in people's apartments and run-down areas, or in the 80s why Earl's Court was a big gay and immigrant area.
I'd say until the 90s (at the earliest) most neighbourhoods didn't want the gays anywhere near them. The neighbourhoods with money had the education, connections and cash to stop them moving in.
Yeah but Soho and Vauxhall are places where there is a cluster of gay bars and clubs not really where lots of gay people live. I've never really had teh impression that there are any particular clusters of gay localities like the Castro in SF.
Does seem we're talking about different things Shelf.
Quote from: Gups on February 06, 2014, 11:43:08 AM
Yeah but Soho and Vauxhall are places where there is a cluster of gay bars and clubs not really where lots of gay people live. I've never really had teh impression that there are any particular clusters of gay localities like the Castro in SF.
Yeah that's a big difference. I don't think there are any areas like that in London. I think it's more like that in regional cities like Liverpool and Manchester.
But that's what I mean by London being too big for that sort of thing - and I think it may be the same in the US. The gays moving in can have an effect on a smaller city like Brighton or San Fran, but in big cities like London, New York or Chicago gay friendly businesses opening up is likely more a symptom than a cause of gentrification.
You're probably right on Camberwell never fully gentrifying. The transport is awful. But that's fine by me, it'll keep it easy to get a table in Silk Road and FM Mangal.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2014, 11:50:09 AM
Does seem we're talking about different things Shelf.
Around these parts, the main drivers of gentrification are either youngish but professionally successful families looking to by property and fix it up; condo developers doing pretty much the same thing on a neighbourhood scale while trying to appeal to single people with careers as well as families; and trendyish businesses like restaurant/clothes shops/tech start ups looking for cheaper office space than available elsewhere. The gays haven't really figured into it uniquely (though some are youngish professional families looking for property, or career minded individuals with disposable cash in the condo market).
Were there any particular places you had in mind when you were talking of gays being a driver of gentrification?
I could see mentioning gays for Castro/Mission and Meatpacking/Chelsea/West Village/Hell's Kitchen. Though I'd mention too that they are just one step in a process. West Village now overrun with families.
Gay families. :x
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
In the US gays are typically the main drivers of gentrification.
I think it's more accurate to say that well-off urban professionals and the businesses which employ and cater to them, are the main driver of gentrification. This may include a larger percentage of gay people than average in the US, but it does not make the gays the main driver.
There are plenty of economically marginalized gay people; and there are plenty of straight people - and companies - involved in gentrification.
I'd say this applies mostly to those not ready/willing to have children specifically, since school districts aren't a factor. That can mean that you'll get a higher proportion of gays than in other areas.
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
Were there any particular places you had in mind when you were talking of gays being a driver of gentrification?
DC in particular, but I think they played a part in NYC as well.
So where in London sucks these days? My knowledge of which areas are dodgy is mostly based on old dramas and comedies.
Tower hamlets?
Quote from: The Larch on February 06, 2014, 11:23:02 AM
London Hipsters, according to my Shoreditch buddy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I)
:lol: That's about right :bowler: The ones with the giant beards are the latest look.
Quote from: Tyr on February 07, 2014, 01:40:48 AM
So where in London sucks these days? My knowledge of which areas are dodgy is mostly based on old dramas and comedies.
Tower hamlets?
Enfield.
It use to be the nice north London suburb everyone moved too but since the riots it's turned to shit.
Quote from: Brazen on February 07, 2014, 10:05:37 AM
Quote from: The Larch on February 06, 2014, 11:23:02 AM
London Hipsters, according to my Shoreditch buddy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I)
:lol: That's about right :bowler: The ones with the giant beards are the latest look.
It's the 60s thru the 80s all smashed up together. :lol:
Quote from: Brazen on February 07, 2014, 10:10:22 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 07, 2014, 01:40:48 AM
So where in London sucks these days? My knowledge of which areas are dodgy is mostly based on old dramas and comedies.
Tower hamlets?
Enfield.
It use to be the nice north London suburb everyone moved too but since the riots it's turned to shit.
Woolwich is still rough I hear.
Which State do you actually belong in?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/what-state-do-you-actually-belong-in
I got Missouri :mellow:
Edit: Hey Raz :)
I got Wisconsin. Cha-right.
Transylvania! :ph34r:
No, wait, I meant Pennsylvania. :sleep:
It would make slightly more sense if it didn't ask you to choose for random baby pics and somesuch.
Illinois :mellow:
I got Washington. :D
:lol:
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 13, 2014, 08:10:09 PM
Which State do you actually belong in?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/what-state-do-you-actually-belong-in
I got Missouri :mellow:
Edit: Hey Raz :)
Surprisingly, that gave me Iowa- the only other state in which I've spent a significant amount of time. How it got that when I picked a picture of mountains I have no idea, though. :P
Wisconsin. Maybe if this global warming thing gets a move on...
Minnesota.
Bork?
New York :cool:
Your quiz sucks shelf, I got Texas :ultra:
Quote from: katmai on February 14, 2014, 03:14:09 AM
Your quiz sucks shelf, I got Texas :ultra:
Thank God someone else got the South(-ish) :lol:
Don't fuck with Texas.
I'm convinced because I picked whataburger and matthew mcconaughey :P
Iowa. :mellow:
QuoteFirst things first: you're not Idaho and you're tired of people mixing the two up. You don't obsess too much over appearance, you know you've got it all figured out. You're a confident person who isn't afraid to take the lead on something. Also, you have many vowels in your name, for what it's worth.
New Hampshire :hmm:
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 13, 2014, 08:10:09 PM
Which State do you actually belong in?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/what-state-do-you-actually-belong-in
I got Missouri :mellow:
Edit: Hey Raz :)
I got Texas. Oh good no need to move then.
I got Minnesota. :) When I saw the Twin Cities very briefly in '02 or '03, I liked it a lot. At this point, I'm a little sick of freezing my balls off (figuratively, but only barely), but otherwise I wouldn't mind Minn.
Ja?
Quote from: The Brain on February 14, 2014, 03:00:24 PM
Ja?
Except for all the dumb Swedes dumping their skit and sopor in the lakes and Ås they drink out of, it sounds pretty good.
Quote from: katmai on February 14, 2014, 03:22:20 AM
I'm convinced because I picked whataburger and matthew mcconaughey :P
Yeah I think that is why I got it as well.
Whataburger is ok, but Five Guys is better.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 14, 2014, 03:19:17 PM
Whataburger is ok, but Five Guys is better.
Five Guys was not one of the choices. I just went with the best one listed.
My hunch is the back end of that site is just a random number generator.
I went with Chick-fil-A cause I actually eat there sometimes. Generally I prefer a burger though. :sleep:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 14, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
My hunch is the back end of that site is just a random number generator.
I don't know. I know for some of the quizzes, you can get the same result from re-entering the same answers.
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 14, 2014, 03:16:04 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 14, 2014, 03:14:09 AM
Your quiz sucks shelf, I got Texas :ultra:
Thank God someone else got the South(-ish) :lol:
Missouri is not part of the South.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 14, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Missouri is not part of the South.
Don't tell the SEC that. Of course it also thinks Missouri is located in the East.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/where-should-you-actually-live-in-new-york-city
The New York quiz.
I got my neighborhood though I think that's likely because I said Washington Square Park was the most appealing view. -_-
Greenwich Village :cool:
QuoteYou got: Red Hook
Red Hook is not convenient to public transportation, but in a way, that's part of its charm. It's like a relaxed, artsy small town on the water that just happens to be adjacent to more bustling Brooklyn neighborhoods. Red Hook has fantastic restaurants, relatively spacious and inexpensive housing, a park full of food trucks, and easy access to Ikea and Fairway. Also recommended, especially if the poor subway access is a deal breaker, you're freaked out by the damage brought on to the neighborhood by Hurricane Sandy, and you've got money to spend: Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill, Brooklyn Heights, DUMBO.
Lower East Side?
What does all this mean?
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2014, 02:10:05 PM
Lower East Side?
What does all this mean?
This probably a good summary.
http://nymag.com/realestate/articles/neighborhoods/lowereastside.htm
Actually the Greenwich Village one is probably spot on too, though rather clipped. -_-
Quote from: garbon on February 23, 2014, 01:58:42 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/where-should-you-actually-live-in-new-york-city
The New York quiz.
I got my neighborhood though I think that's likely because I said Washington Square Park was the most appealing view. -_-
I also chose Washington square park (which I remembered as very nice and cool when I visited the city years ago) and got Greenwich Village, with West Village and SoHo as alternatives.
I doubt I could afford living there. :cry:
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 13, 2014, 08:10:09 PM
Which State do you actually belong in?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/what-state-do-you-actually-belong-in
I got Missouri :mellow:
Edit: Hey Raz :)
LOL, I got Wyoming. :lol: Now that's just Kreskin. :ph34r:
I got Maine. :huh:
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 13, 2014, 08:10:09 PM
Which State do you actually belong in?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/what-state-do-you-actually-belong-in (http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/what-state-do-you-actually-belong-in)
I got Missouri :mellow:
Edit: Hey Raz :)
That is strange. Missouri is the most luke warm of all states. It doesn't fit my idea of you. Note: My idea of Shelf is a person who loves passionate intensity and authenticity.
Wyoming and Red Hook.