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Title: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Syt on November 17, 2013, 02:16:14 PM
http://www.thesurvivor2299.com/

http://12072299.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: 11B4V on November 17, 2013, 02:47:19 PM
Dont toy with me. :mad:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Queequeg on November 17, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
Much rather have Obsidian than Bethesda doing it. 
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: fhdz on November 18, 2013, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on November 17, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
Much rather have Obsidian than Bethesda doing it.

Wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which fills up first.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 05:05:15 AM
Great, now I've got several handfuls of excess wishes. <_<
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: grumbler on November 20, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
The whole http://www.thesurvivor2299.com/ website thing is interesting.  There is no evidence that it is a Bethesda-affiliated site except negative evidence:  it uses the Bethesda-licensed Fallout logo without Bethesda complaining.

A quick search regarding Fallout 3's Oscar Zulu station (the "OZ" referred to in the Morse code message) confirms that it is the station where the father was asking for help in saving his sick son.  If you investigated the site, you discovered the remains of two adults (presumably the parents) but no sign of the kid.  The player is left with the impression that the kid was saved, but not the parents.

By the time of Fallout New Vegas (2281), the kid would still be too young to be a factor, but given that BethSoft has moved the timeframe forward with the second game, we can accept that they may do so again in Fallout 4, and so the kid could be old enough to play a role.  Maybe as an NPC, or maybe just in a web comic or graphic novel used to help build publicity, like the character Chance in the graphic novel they did for FONV.    Since the sex of the kid is established in FO3, it isn't likely that the kid would grow up to be the PC of fallout 4.

All of this assumes that the site is really controlled by Bethesda.  If it is a troll, it is a good one.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 05:08:50 PM
I thought that all the radio stations in Fallout 3 were supposed to be pre-war.  I agree that if it's a troll it's a good one though.  It certainly looks like a marketing thing.   Hopefully it is.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Syt on November 20, 2013, 05:56:56 PM
Bethesda have registered Fallout 4 as trademark in Europe.

http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/trademark/data/012311734
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
Honestly, I would prefer for a new post apocalypitic RPG game instead of using the old Fallout mythology, but that isn't likely to happen so I'll be happy with with Fallout 4.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: grumbler on November 20, 2013, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: Syt on November 20, 2013, 05:56:56 PM
Bethesda have registered Fallout 4 as trademark in Europe.

http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/trademark/data/012311734
Unfortunately, this doesn't tell us anything, really.  We knew that there would be a fallout 4, and there is no practical limit to the time Bethesda can hold this  trademark before making the game.  What it may tell us is that Bethesda is close to announcing the game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Caliga on November 21, 2013, 06:15:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
Honestly, I would prefer for a new post apocalypitic RPG game instead of using the old Fallout mythology, but that isn't likely to happen so I'll be happy with with Fallout 4.
There's that 'The Last of Us' game, but it's for consoles only I think.

As much as I like the Fallout games, the 'fantasy' stuff in them like the giant scorpions and the super mutants do annoy me.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Syt on November 21, 2013, 07:18:58 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
Honestly, I would prefer for a new post apocalypitic RPG game instead of using the old Fallout mythology, but that isn't likely to happen so I'll be happy with with Fallout 4.

Well, Wasteland 2 is in the works.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Queequeg on November 21, 2013, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 21, 2013, 06:15:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
Honestly, I would prefer for a new post apocalypitic RPG game instead of using the old Fallout mythology, but that isn't likely to happen so I'll be happy with with Fallout 4.
There's that 'The Last of Us' game, but it's for consoles only I think.

As much as I like the Fallout games, the 'fantasy' stuff in them like the giant scorpions and the super mutants do annoy me.
Retrofuture is the entire point of the games.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: 11B4V on November 21, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
Honestly, I would prefer for a new post apocalypitic RPG game instead of using the old Fallout mythology, but that isn't likely to happen so I'll be happy with with Fallout 4.

Wasteland 2, Nuclear Union, Metro LL, etc
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Razgovory on November 21, 2013, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 21, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
Honestly, I would prefer for a new post apocalypitic RPG game instead of using the old Fallout mythology, but that isn't likely to happen so I'll be happy with with Fallout 4.

Wasteland 2, Nuclear Union, Metro LL, etc

I'd like something that isn't made in Russia as well.  I mean, any game that takes place is Russia is post-societal collapse by default.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: 11B4V on November 21, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 21, 2013, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 21, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
Honestly, I would prefer for a new post apocalypitic RPG game instead of using the old Fallout mythology, but that isn't likely to happen so I'll be happy with with Fallout 4.

Wasteland 2, Nuclear Union, Metro LL, etc

I'd like something that isn't made in Russia as well.  I mean, any game that takes place is Russia is post-societal collapse by default.

The Last of Us seems to have some outstanding reviews.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: 11B4V on November 23, 2013, 08:54:13 PM
Whatever they do, I would like to see a revamping of the Hardcore mode. Still way too much carring capacity.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Razgovory on November 24, 2013, 03:26:47 AM
I liked the Hardcore, and the attention paid to the quests and world building that New Vegas had over Fallout 3.  Hopefully they follow in that vein.  I'd also like to see better AI.  It was obvious they just used the AI from Oblivion.  That's okay when everyone is armed with swords and bows, but when you have guns it would be nice if the AI had different strategies then "Stand there and Shoot", or "Run directly at the player".

I do remember an oblique reference from some Bethesda on how much fun the gambling was in Fallout: New Vegas.  Hopefully they looked at New Vegas and put in what made that a game great into Fallout 4.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 21, 2013, 06:15:49 AM
As much as I like the Fallout games, the 'fantasy' stuff in them like the giant scorpions and the super mutants do annoy me.

Ditto.  I made my peace with it, but it came close to destroying the game for me when I first started playing Fallout 3. 
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Queequeg on November 27, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
Did you even play FO 1 & 2?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on November 27, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
Did you even play FO 1 & 2?

No.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Barrister on November 27, 2013, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 21, 2013, 06:15:49 AM
As much as I like the Fallout games, the 'fantasy' stuff in them like the giant scorpions and the super mutants do annoy me.

Ditto.  I made my peace with it, but it came close to destroying the game for me when I first started playing Fallout 3.

It's a game set in the aftermath of WWIII taking place in the 1950s.  Of course it's going to be fantasy.

I found the Fallout setting, complete with 1950s era sci-fi B movie concepts like giant irradiated scorpions, to be more entertaining than a generic and realistic post-apocalyptic setting.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: 11B4V on November 27, 2013, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on November 27, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
Did you even play FO 1 & 2?

No.

You should. They can be had for pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: grumbler on November 27, 2013, 03:56:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 27, 2013, 11:39:01 AM
It's a game set in the aftermath of WWIII taking place in the 1950s.  Of course it's going to be fantasy.

I found the Fallout setting, complete with 1950s era sci-fi B movie concepts like giant irradiated scorpions, to be more entertaining than a generic and realistic post-apocalyptic setting.
Yeah, I think some people just didn't understand what the games were trying to do.  They were not at all intended to be "realistic."  I can understand people being tired of the joke, but don't suffer from that, myself.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 03:59:24 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 27, 2013, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on November 27, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
Did you even play FO 1 & 2?

No.

You should. They can be had for pretty cheap.

I actually have them.  Just never felt compelled enough to play them.  No way they'd be as immersive as Fallout 3 & NV are.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: derspiess on November 27, 2013, 04:00:26 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 27, 2013, 11:39:01 AM
It's a game set in the aftermath of WWIII taking place in the 1950s.  Of course it's going to be fantasy.

I found the Fallout setting, complete with 1950s era sci-fi B movie concepts like giant irradiated scorpions, to be more entertaining than a generic and realistic post-apocalyptic setting.

I get that.  I'd just prefer some of the fantasy monsters dialed back a little.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Razgovory on November 27, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
The fantasy monsters work okay for Fallout.  In the original game, it was sort of a riff on traditional fantasy games.  There were knights, a Thieves guild, a sinister cult, beast men forgotten ruins and an ancient evil.  But instead of traditional fantasy setting there it was post-nuclear California.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: The Brain on November 27, 2013, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 27, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
post-nuclear California.

:wistful:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: garbon on November 27, 2013, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: The Brain on November 27, 2013, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 27, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
post-nuclear California.

:wistful:

Why would you wish that upon me? :(
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: The Brain on November 28, 2013, 01:16:06 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 27, 2013, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: The Brain on November 27, 2013, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 27, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
post-nuclear California.

:wistful:

Why would you wish that upon me? :(

Your purple hair.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Solmyr on December 08, 2013, 09:39:01 AM
Fake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1G8hAz4UVg
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Syt on December 08, 2013, 10:02:34 AM
Yeah, heard that. Shame, but it was a decent hoax.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Razgovory on December 10, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
They guy spent 1,000 bucks on getting the website.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: derspiess on December 11, 2013, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 10, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
They guy spent 1,000 bucks on getting the website.

Some would spend that in a heartbeat to prank people & get some notoriety. 
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Ed Anger on December 11, 2013, 12:59:04 PM
Meanwhile for lunch, he's got a choice of chicken or shrimp Ramen.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: garbon on December 11, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
Apparently he said his next step was to put together a cgi trailer, so unclear to me if this guy actually has pockets as deep as he states.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: Solmyr on December 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Or is it?

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/12/11/report-bethesda-casting-voice-actors-for-fallout-4/
Title: Re: Fallout 4 coming
Post by: 11B4V on December 11, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
I have no doubt Bethseda is working on it.