I'm thinking about a writing a novel.
There is no way its going to be straight from facts, so the way I see it I got two choices, J R R Tolkien's fantasization of his WW1 experience, or Joe Haldeman's science-fictiazation of his Vietnam ride. Right now I am very undecided. I could go Alt-Hist...
I want to stay away from the whole "Universe creation" bullshit. Pseudo-history might work.
So far, I think I got two possible scenarios on the back of my head. The adaptation of all my personal misexperiance to a pseudo-history Israel during the pre-dynastic/tribal period of the conflict with the Filistines/Sea peoples/atlantians from Santorini, OR, a sci-fi Sefaradi Kingdom in space descendant from 5000 jews kidnapped by aliens from medieval Al-Andaluz after a nasty progrom over a thousand years ago.
You should write about some liverals plotting to destroy America and how an all-American Sephardi boy foils their plot.
I'd rather read the milscifi ancient Hebrew allegory. Most people don't even know what a Sefaradi is.
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on November 11, 2013, 12:21:01 AM
I'd rather read the milscifi ancient Hebrew allegory. Most people don't even know what a Sefardi is.
This is my first impression. Plus no universe building.
Lots of historical research though.
I think its worth it. There are a few Israeli novels about the period, but I don't think it is burnt out.
I believe you have many experiences which would could be used to write a good novel. But I don't know if you have the writing chops to accomplish it.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 11, 2013, 12:25:03 AM
I believe you have many experiences which would could be used to write a good novel. But I don't know if you have the writing chops to accomplish it.
My wife will proof read all my drafts. I already got her on board.
She is excited about finally getting to know what happens on deployments.
I might have to tone it down.
Well, I think retaining the military science fiction aspect would make it more accessible. 300 but with Israelites might not appeal to a wide audience, either, but if you switched things around and make it the civilizational history of an analogous people but in space with power armor... that could attract some attention.
Quote from: Siege on November 11, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 11, 2013, 12:25:03 AM
I believe you have many experiences which would could be used to write a good novel. But I don't know if you have the writing chops to accomplish it.
My wife will proof read all my drafts. I already got her on board.
She is excited about finally getting to know what happens on deployments.
I might have to tone it down.
Never tone it down. You should write more about your actual experiences. It could be
Full Metal Jacket meets
Lolita.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 11, 2013, 12:25:03 AM
I believe you have many experiences which would could be used to write a good novel. But I don't know if you have the writing chops to accomplish it.
I can see Siege writing something like the beginning of the
Flowers for Algernon.
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on November 11, 2013, 12:29:45 AM
Well, I think retaining the military science fiction aspect would make it more accessible. 300 but with Israelites might not appeal to a wide audience, either, but if you switched things around and make it the civilizational history of an analogous people but in space with power armor... that could attract some attention.
You might be right.
If I go with pseudo-history my plan is a 5 book series:
1- Ur. The main character (MC) travels to Ur (Kassite dynasty) as an exchange student with the family of his forefathers, falls in love, loses virginity, when finish school joins the war against the Elamites and the Middle Assyrian Empire.
2- Israel. The MC returns home, gets married to his sweetheart who had waited for him, joins the war against the Philistines. Lots of crazy shit (real life operations culminating with Operation Accountability-like), wife is killed by Philistine raiders, wife's little sister loses leg, the MC goes crazy, doesn't agree with Judge-Shof'tim (Yitzhak Rabin) peace with the Philistines, gets chased off from Israel by his own family that worked for the Shomer Shof'tim (Judge's guard = Mossad in RL)
3- Egypt. The MC travels to Egypt, doesn't know what to do with his live. Gets help from one of his brothers and one his cousins on the orders of his dad from Israel. Meets nice beautiful jewish girl in local community. Gets married 2nd time. Still doesn't know what to do with his life. Joins the Pharaoh's army, deploys to Kush, crush kushites.
4- Egypt. The MC can't get wife pregnant. Deploys to Kush for a second time. Enforces the Pharaoh's peace. Not too crazy. Lots of kushite camel diplomacy.
5- Egypt. The MC finally gets the wife pregnant, have beautiful boy. Deploys to Nubia. Crazy shit goes down, not as crazy but interesting enough. Lots of raids and camel diplomacy. Ends with local egyptian pull out from Nubian territory.
Siegebreaker: The New American Immigrant Dream. Wonder at the story of one man's voyage from his ancestral homeland, and our great ally Israel, to the bright and promising shores of the greatest country in the world, The United States! Marvel at his dedication and loyalty to his new nation as he joins the United States Army and brings the fight for freedom, democracy, and the American way back to his home region! Thrill to his accounts of his multiple tours served in some of the most vicious and brutal fighting done to help ensure Iraqi Freedom, Afghani compliance, and overall global security and peace! Be inspired by his dedication to the true ideas and ideals of the Republic and his loyalty to his new country and it's true patriots in the modern Conservative movement! -Coming soon to Walmart book aisles, Glenn Beck cruises, Fox News Special Reports, and talk radio airwaves!-
Quote from: DGuller on November 11, 2013, 01:21:57 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 11, 2013, 12:25:03 AM
I believe you have many experiences which would could be used to write a good novel. But I don't know if you have the writing chops to accomplish it.
I can see Siege writing something like the beginning of the Flowers for Algernon.
Autobiographical?
Quote from: Siege on November 11, 2013, 01:22:40 AM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on November 11, 2013, 12:29:45 AM
Well, I think retaining the military science fiction aspect would make it more accessible. 300 but with Israelites might not appeal to a wide audience, either, but if you switched things around and make it the civilizational history of an analogous people but in space with power armor... that could attract some attention.
You might be right.
If I go with pseudo-history my plan is a 5 book series:
1- Ur. The main character (MC) travels to Ur (Kassite dynasty) as an exchange student with the family of his forefathers, falls in love, loses virginity, when finish school joins the war against the Elamites and the Middle Assyrian Empire.
2- Israel. The MC returns home, gets married to his sweetheart who had waited for him, joins the war against the Philistines. Lots of crazy shit (real life operations culminating with Operation Accountability-like), wife is killed by Philistine raiders, wife's little sister loses leg, the MC goes crazy, doesn't agree with Judge-Shof'tim (Yitzhak Rabin) peace with the Philistines, gets chased off from Israel by his own family that worked for the Shomer Shof'tim (Judge's guard = Mossad in RL)
3- Egypt. The MC travels to Egypt, doesn't know what to do with his live. Gets help from one of his brothers and one his cousins on the orders of his dad from Israel. Meets nice beautiful jewish girl in local community. Gets married 2nd time. Still doesn't know what to do with his life. Joins the Pharaoh's army, deploys to Kush, crush kushites.
4- Egypt. The MC can't get wife pregnant. Deploys to Kush for a second time. Enforces the Pharaoh's peace. Not too crazy. Lots of kushite camel diplomacy.
5- Egypt. The MC finally gets the wife pregnant, have beautiful boy. Deploys to Nubia. Crazy shit goes down, not as crazy but interesting enough. Lots of raids and camel diplomacy. Ends with local egyptian pull out from Nubian territory.
no, dude, set it during the 25th dynasty.. focus on the assyrian invasion of israel and judah and on how, under the watch of an nubian pharoah israel was destroyed. Add some social political commentary on how the nubian pharaoah forces the unwilling hero to take medicine and then steals his money to pay for it.
Yes!
If he goes with the sci-fi angle, his liverals can actually resemble a liver. :cool:
Quote from: Razgovory on November 11, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
Quote from: Siege on November 11, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 11, 2013, 12:25:03 AM
I believe you have many experiences which would could be used to write a good novel. But I don't know if you have the writing chops to accomplish it.
My wife will proof read all my drafts. I already got her on board.
She is excited about finally getting to know what happens on deployments.
I might have to tone it down.
Never tone it down. You should write more about your actual experiences. It could beFull Metal Jacket meets Lolita.
:lol:
Go for it. Write a nobel.
The sekrit lifes of Liveruls.
I think writing a novel would not be the most productive use of your time.
Surely Languish can ghost write it.
:hmm: Is Sav still writing?
I'm not sure who Shirley Languish is, but I doubt she is a ghost.
In the near post-apocalyptic future North America has been split into eleven distinct nations. Zombies roam the hinterlands and giant mutant dogs hunt in the continent's once proud cities. With crop failures brought about by nuclear war and climate change the citizens of the New Netherlands suffer the ravages scurvy. In order to supply the badly needed vitamin C to the population, Staadholder D. van Guller has purchased an enormous quantity of blueberries from Mr. Ideologue St. Clare, the king of the Deep South's blueberry plantations.
Four wagon trains of blueberries have been sent, but were lost in transit. The rumor is that a mysterious robber baron in Greater Appalachia, Ed Anger, has been plundering fruit shipments from the Deep South and turning their cargo into wine. The meager local authorities can do nothing, for Castle d'Anger is impenetrable. In desperation van Guller has contracted soldier of fortune, Siegebreaker, and his spunky gal sidekick, Hannah Montana to deliver the blueberries by any means necessary.
I'd pay to see that. :)
Quote from: Caliga on November 11, 2013, 03:48:57 PM
I'd pay to see that. :)
Probably need to change out Hannah Montana so as to avoid Disney. Maybe Savannah Indiana?
Quote from: garbon on November 11, 2013, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 11, 2013, 03:48:57 PM
I'd pay to see that. :)
Probably need to change out Hannah Montana so as to avoid Disney. Maybe Savannah Indiana?
Savannah, Georgia.
Quote from: garbon on November 11, 2013, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: Viking on November 11, 2013, 03:58:16 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 11, 2013, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 11, 2013, 03:48:57 PM
I'd pay to see that. :)
Probably need to change out Hannah Montana so as to avoid Disney. Maybe Savannah Indiana?
Savannah, Georgia.
Yes, that is a city.
There is a Conrad Savannah, Indiana, but that is a nature preserve.
:hmm:
Quote from: Caliga on November 11, 2013, 04:09:30 PM
:hmm:
When Viking gets into gibberish mode, best to just say "okay" and move on.
In the gritty slums of 1970s Baltimore a police officer is gunned down the day before his retirement. His partner, C. D. Monet, tries to find out the truth behind the murder, but finds himself stonewalled at every turn. He turns to help from his rival; Jewish private eye Siegebreaker and they go outside the system. At first the two men bicker constantly but in time they bond due to their desperate loneliness. Soon the ghetto is in flames and the unlikely duo discover that the corruption goes straight to the top. Will they be able to stop Neil's nefarious scheme, or will Siegebreaker's weakness for underage Shiksas and Miller Lite destroy their chances?
Fresh off of breakup from his sixth significant one-week relationship in a year, upset I. D. Log moves in with his Jewish friend Siggy Breaker. Hilarity ensues as they fight over the whether reeses cups are kosher, whether the youtube is set to teen pop-stars or 1980s sci-fi bromances, or who drank the last 18 Miller Lites.
Key are Siggy's drunken rants concerning liver.
(this works more as a play with witty dialogue or maybe a sitcom)
Quote from: DGuller on November 11, 2013, 11:57:12 AM
:hmm: Is Sav still writing?
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;)
Can I be in one of your stories.
Quote from: Savonarola on November 11, 2013, 07:49:56 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 11, 2013, 11:57:12 AM
:hmm: Is Sav still writing?
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:hmm: That some's good night-time reading.
Quote from: PDH on November 11, 2013, 07:49:11 PM
Fresh off of breakup from his sixth significant one-week relationship in a year, upset I. D. Log moves in with his Jewish friend Siggy Breaker. Hilarity ensues as they fight over the whether reeses cups are kosher, whether the youtube is set to teen pop-stars or 1980s sci-fi bromances, or who drank the last 18 Miller Lites.
Key are Siggy's drunken rants concerning liver.
(this works more as a play with witty dialogue or maybe a sitcom)
A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering.
I bet the inside of Siege & Ide's refrigerator would be pretty depressing.
Quote from: Caliga on November 11, 2013, 07:53:45 PM
Can I be in one of your stories.
In the middle of the first century Gnaeus Ira Edvardus hosts a dinner party in his manor on the Palatine hill, where the guest of honor, Seneca, is to deliver a lecture. In attendance are two young men, Edvardus's nephew from the provinces, Gaius Ira Caliga and a prince from Palestina, Siege ben Breaker. The young men discuss Seneca's teaching and each find fault in it based on their respective backgrounds. Despite their differences the two men become friends and pal around Rome, drinking watery mulsum and visiting every thermopolium in the city. Their friendship is tested when they both fall for a well-endowed, barely legal, barbarian princess named Princessa. She eventually picks Caliga, and their friendship is restored.
This little world comes crashing apart with the onset of the first Roman-Jewish war. Siege feels obligated to return to his people and fight. Caliga, who is following the cursus honorum, is in the army. Both men swear eternal friendship before parting; but in war their are terrible decisions and consequences you take to the grave.
OPVS IMPLANTATORVM
MAH LORICA SQVAMATA
:D
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 12, 2013, 01:17:46 AM
I bet the inside of Siege & Ide's refrigerator would be pretty depressing.
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Why'd you stop drinking Coors anyway? Because of the Jew hate thing?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 12, 2013, 07:12:45 PM
Why'd you stop drinking Coors anyway? Because of the Jew hate thing?
Too much fermentation. It also feels like Coors have a lower alcohol contain. Not sure about this. Might be my impression.
By the way, that is not my fridge.
My wife would kill me if it was that nasty.
I got a little fridge just for beer, but is clean and organized.
Yeah, my wife is a cleaness freak. I always tell her she would have made a great NCO.
Quote from: Siege on November 12, 2013, 07:18:01 PM
By the way, that is not my fridge.
My wife would kill me if it was that nasty.
I got a little fridge just for beer, but is clean and organized.
Yeah, my wife is a cleaness freak. I always tell her she would have made a great NCO.
I was about to ask......
About ideal military rank for Siege's wife? Because that's what I was wondering about.