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Title: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Syt on November 06, 2013, 12:44:11 AM
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3209305.shtml#.UnnVLPlLNHT

QuoteThis 4 On Your Side investigation looks into the actions of police officers and doctors in Southern New Mexico.

A review of medical records, police reports and a federal lawsuit show deputies with the Hidalgo County Sheriff's Office, police officers with the City of Deming and medical professionals at the Gila Regional Medical Center made some questionable decisions.

The incident began January 2, 2013 after David Eckert finished shopping at the Wal-Mart in Deming. According to a federal lawsuit, Eckert didn't make a complete stop at a stop sign coming out of the parking lot and was immediately stopped by law enforcement.

Eckert's attorney, Shannon Kennedy, said in an interview with KOB that after law enforcement asked him to step out of the vehicle, he appeared to be clenching his buttocks. Law enforcement thought that was probable cause to suspect that Eckert was hiding narcotics in his anal cavity. While officers detained Eckert, they secured a search warrant from a judge that allowed for an anal cavity search.

The lawsuit claims that Deming Police tried taking Eckert to an emergency room in Deming, but a doctor there refused to perform the anal cavity search citing it was "unethical."
But physicians at the Gila Regional Medical Center in Silver City agreed to perform the procedure and a few hours later, Eckert was admitted.

What Happened

While there, Eckert was subjected to repeated and humiliating forced medical procedures. A review of Eckert's medical records, which he released to KOB, and details in the lawsuit show the following happened:

1. Eckert's abdominal area was x-rayed; no narcotics were found.

2. Doctors then performed an exam of Eckert's anus with their fingers; no narcotics were found.

3. Doctors performed a second exam of Eckert's anus with their fingers; no narcotics were found.

4. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.

5. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema a second time. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.

6. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema a third time. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.

7. Doctors then x-rayed Eckert again; no narcotics were found.

8. Doctors prepared Eckert for surgery, sedated him, and then performed a colonoscopy where a scope with a camera was inserted into Eckert's anus, rectum, colon, and large intestines. No narcotics were found.

Throughout this ordeal, Eckert protested and never gave doctors at the Gila Regional Medical Center consent to perform any of these medical procedures.

"If the officers in Hidalgo County and the City of Deming are seeking warrants for anal cavity searches based on how they're standing and the warrant allows doctors at the Gila Hospital of Horrors to go in and do enemas and colonoscopies without consent, then anyone can be seized and that's why the public needs to know about this," Kennedy said.

Search Warrant Concerns

There are major concerns about the way the search warrant was carried out. Kennedy argues that the search warrant was overly broad and lacked probable cause. But beyond that, the warrant was only valid in Luna County, where Deming is located. The Gila Regional Medical Center is in Grant County. That means all of the medical procedures were performed illegally and the doctors who performed the procedures did so with no legal basis and no consent from the patient.

In addition, even if the search warrant was executed in the correct New Mexico county, the warrant expired at 10 p.m. Medical records show the prepping for the colonoscopy started at 1 a.m. the following day, three hours after the warrant expired.

"This is like something out of a science fiction film, anal probing by government officials and public employees," Kennedy said.

No Comment

KOB reached out to the attorneys representing the defendants in the lawsuit and all declined to comment on the situation. The attorneys said it's their personal policy not comment on pending litigation.

4 On Your Side Investigative Reporter Chris Ramirez cornered Deming Police Chief Brandon Gigante.

"As the police chief what reassurances could you give people when they come through your town that they won't be violated or abused by your police officers?" Ramirez asked Chief Gigante.

"We follow the law in every aspect and we follow policies and protocols that we have in place," Chief Gigante replied.

"Do you think those officers in this particular case did that?" Ramirez asked.

Gigante didn't answer, instead he referred Ramirez to his attorney.

The Lawsuit

David Eckert is suing The City of Deming and Deming Police Officers Bobby Orosco, Robert Chavez and Officer Hernandez.

Eckert is also suing Hidalgo County Hidalgo County Deputies David Arredondo, Robert Rodriguez and Patrick Green.

Eckert is also suing Deputy District Attorney Daniel Dougherty and the Gila Regional Medical Center including Robert Wilcox, M.D and Okay Odocha, M.D.

If you look at item 209 of the court document (shown on the linked website), you'll notice that the hospital even billed the guy for the pleasure. But hey, at least he didn't carry drugs - War on Drugs: Success!
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Josquius on November 06, 2013, 01:46:28 AM
Sounds like niche pornography.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Caliga on November 06, 2013, 06:33:22 AM
*shrug* How hard is it to come to a complete stop at a stop sign? :)
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: grumbler on November 06, 2013, 07:06:57 AM
The police and doctors certainly acted promptly and effectively to discourage the clenching of buttocks when encountering law enforcement officers in Hidalgo Country.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap! Sure it was inconveniant but those things always are.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: grumbler on November 06, 2013, 07:32:54 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap! Sure it was inconveniant but those things always are.

Why would you think the police paid for this, when the OP says the exact opposite?
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Caliga on November 06, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap!
I thought healthcare in Canada was free? :hmm:
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: grumbler on November 06, 2013, 07:32:54 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap! Sure it was inconveniant but those things always are.

Why would you think the police paid for this, when the OP says the exact opposite?

Missed that one, so use to Tim drive by comments I didn't even considered reading Syt's.  :lol:

@Caliga Yes but I am still aware of the cost of a colonoscopy.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Malthus on November 06, 2013, 09:06:09 AM
Is this Obamacare in action? [/Tea Party] :P
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: KRonn on November 06, 2013, 10:18:09 AM
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2013, 09:06:09 AM
Is this Obamacare in action? [/Tea Party] :P

New policy under the ACA. Can't afford insurance? If you break a traffic law you can keep your doctor, and the govt will throw in a free medical exam!!   :D
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2013, 11:11:46 AM
Quote4 On Your Side

I know I feel better now.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: viper37 on November 06, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap!
I thought healthcare in Canada was free? :hmm:
Only if you're willing to wait.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Malthus on November 06, 2013, 01:00:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 06, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap!
I thought healthcare in Canada was free? :hmm:
Only if you're willing to wait.

This guy wouldn't even wait for a stop sign. And he got instant health-care out of it.  :D
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Ideologue on November 06, 2013, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2013, 01:00:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 06, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap!
I thought healthcare in Canada was free? :hmm:
Only if you're willing to wait.

This guy wouldn't even wait for a stop sign. And he got instant health-care out of it.  :D

Ha ha.  Ha ha ha ha ha.

Christ.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Malthus on November 06, 2013, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on November 06, 2013, 01:03:52 PM
Ha ha.  Ha ha ha ha ha.

Christ.

Hey, if aliens are doing it, no reason why your own government can't.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Scipio on November 06, 2013, 09:09:36 PM
Quote from: grumbler on November 06, 2013, 07:32:54 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap! Sure it was inconveniant but those things always are.

Why would you think the police paid for this, when the OP says the exact opposite?
Cause he's French Canadian, and reading anything is his fourth language.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
What are my first 3?
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Scipio on November 06, 2013, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
What are my first 3?
Outrage, spoken French, and spoken English.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 09:19:31 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Syt on November 06, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
Meanwhile, in Texas:

Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women's privates aren't isolated incidents: lawyers (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/troopers-texas-probe-genitals-women-traffic-stops-article-1.1414668)

QuoteThe first video was graphic enough. Two women, as shown in a Texas state trooper's dash cam recording, are probed in their vaginas and rectums by a glove-wearing female officer after a routine traffic stop near Dallas.

A few days later, a second video surfaced. It was an eerily similar scenario, but this time the traffic stop was just outside Houston, and with different troopers. Two women, pulled over for allegedly speeding, are subjected to body cavity searches by a female officer summoned to the scene by a male trooper.

Unlike the earlier tape, this one had clear audio. Yells can be heard as the female trooper shoves her gloved finger inside one woman.

In both invasive incidents, the female troopers don't change gloves between probes, according to the horrified victims.

Texas officials say the searches are unconstitutional. So do attorneys for the shaken women, who have filed federal lawsuits.

But lawyers and civil rights advocates tell the Daily News these cavity searches are really standard policy among the Texas Department of Public Safety's state troopers, despite their illegality — not to mention that they were conducted on the side of the road in full view of passing motorists.

[...]

Videos linked in the article.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Habbaku on November 06, 2013, 11:25:50 PM
They found a whole mess of drugs, though, right?
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Valmy on November 06, 2013, 11:26:12 PM
We are just trying to keep our people safe from...erm...what exactly might these women be carrying in their Vaginas again?  Anchor babies?

Anyway it is not some sort of shocking news to know law enforcement is pretty out of control here.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Razgovory on November 06, 2013, 11:28:41 PM
The sad truth is a lot of the wrong people are attracted to cop jobs.  So you get stupid shit like this.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Syt on November 06, 2013, 11:30:37 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on November 06, 2013, 11:25:50 PM
They found a whole mess of drugs, though, right?

QuoteNo ticket was issued following the lengthy traffic stop in July 2012, and no drugs were found. Angel Dobbs, 38, told The News that trooper David Farrell pulled her over on a Friday night, while she was driving to Oklahoma with her niece, Ashley, 24.

On the patrol car's loudspeaker, he ordered her off the highway and onto a side road, she said.

He told the women they had thrown cigarette butts out of the car's  windows. That wasn't true, Dobbs said, but she didn't argue. A long series of questions followed: Where were they going? Who were they going to see? Why were they going? Why was her niece with her?

Then he said he smelled marijuana. The women denied having any. He took the women's IDs and went to his patrol car.

"He was back there for like 25 minutes," Dobbs said. "My niece said 'What's taking him so long?'"

They were ordered out of the car and told to stand in a field by the roadside. Farrell told them he had called for a female office to come and search them, Dobbs said.

"Do you have anything in your socks? In your shoes? In your underwear?" Dobbs said she was asked. Then trooper Kelley Helleson showed up.

At this point Dobbs started protesting, saying the situation was ridiculous and that she had no drugs and had done nothing wrong. The female officer told her to "shut up and turn around," Dobbs said.

She did as she was told. Then the trooper's gloved hand went down her sweat pants in the back and in the front.

The trooper's attorney has said there was no penetration and that both women submitted to the searches.

Dobbs disagrees: "She knows there was penetration. On both sides. Along the side of the road. She knows what she did."

The dash cam video shows the aunt and niece alternately standing in front of Farrell's patrol car, holding their arms out while Helleson pats their breasts and puts her hand down the front and back of their pants.

"They didn't even search my socks or my shoes," Dobbs said. "I just couldn't fathom how you could search someone's butt and their vagina, and not search their socks or shoes."

Finally, and after Dobbs passed a field sobriety test, she was given a written warning for littering and told she could go.

"We were assaulted on the side of the road," Dobbs said.

She complained to the troopers' supervisor in August. In October, investigators from the Texas Rangers interviewed her about what happened. She was frustrated it had taken more than two months to get a response.

Then she got a lawyer. Her lawsuit was filed in December. "We had a press conference the next day," Dobbs said. In January, the case was presented to a Dallas County grand jury. Helleson was later charged with two counts of sexual assault and was fired.

Farrell was indicted on one charge of theft, over a missing bottle of Vicodin from the aunt's purse, and was suspended pending an internal investigation.

"Until the news got involved, nothing happened," Dobbs said.
/quote]
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: DGuller on November 06, 2013, 11:31:04 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2013, 01:00:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 06, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Dude should be glad, a colonoscopy on the dime of the police department. Those things are not cheap!
I thought healthcare in Canada was free? :hmm:
Only if you're willing to wait.

This guy wouldn't even wait for a stop sign. And he got instant health-care out of it.  :D
:XD:
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Duque de Bragança on November 07, 2013, 03:07:04 AM
Quote from: Scipio on November 06, 2013, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
What are my first 3?
Outrage, particularly bad dialectal spoken French or even joual, and spoken English.

Fixed it for you :)
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Syt on November 07, 2013, 03:18:21 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 07, 2013, 03:07:04 AM
Quote from: Scipio on November 06, 2013, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
What are my first 3?
Outrage, particularly bad dialectal spoken French or even joual, and spoken English.

Fixed it for you :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5l0PD80u9k

"Mangez mons briefs!"
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Duque de Bragança on November 07, 2013, 03:27:09 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 07, 2013, 03:18:21 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 07, 2013, 03:07:04 AM
Quote from: Scipio on November 06, 2013, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
What are my first 3?
Outrage, particularly bad dialectal spoken French or even joual, and spoken English.

Fixed it for you :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5l0PD80u9k

"Mange mes briefs!"

Fixed again! :)
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Grey Fox on November 07, 2013, 07:26:09 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 07, 2013, 03:07:04 AM
Quote from: Scipio on November 06, 2013, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 06, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
What are my first 3?
Outrage, particularly bad dialectal spoken French or even joual, and spoken English.

Fixed it for you :)

It's true that France french is pretty atrocious.
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on November 07, 2013, 08:24:37 AM
Don't mess with Texas? Because the cops are batshit crazy?
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Valmy on November 07, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 07, 2013, 08:24:37 AM
Don't mess with Texas? Because the cops are batshit crazy?

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_jw-BMuOlZvA%2FTLWbzELDWMI%2FAAAAAAAAED0%2F2GezqF8PtgM%2Fs320%2FDon%26%23039%3BtMess.jpg&hash=4bc37f6bd5dc800e06c247ae0d8d4f6ebc63d4e8)

Up to 2000 penetrations by our cops
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Admiral Yi on November 07, 2013, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 07, 2013, 03:18:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5l0PD80u9k

"Mangez mons briefs!"

Pea soup eater? :unsure:
Title: Re: NM Police turn traffic stop into forced colonoscopy
Post by: Kleves on November 07, 2013, 10:26:22 AM
QuoteShe complained to the troopers' supervisor in August. In October, investigators from the Texas Rangers interviewed her about what happened. She was frustrated it had taken more than two months to get a response.
That's actually a pretty good response time. The Ranger's season didn't even end until October. I guess women just don't understand sports.