QuoteDoctor who performed abortions shot to death
(CNN) -- Dr. George Tiller, whose Wichita, Kansas, women's clinic has been the target of anti-abortion protests for years, was shot and killed at his church Sunday morning, his attorneys said.
Dr. George Tiller was one of the few U.S. physicians that performed late-term abortions.
Dr. George Tiller was one of the few U.S. physicians that performed late-term abortions.
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Laura Shaneyfelt, an attorney with the firm of Monnat and Spurrier, confirmed Tiller's death to CNN.
The 67-year-old doctor was one of the few U.S. physicians who still performed late-term abortions. He survived a 1993 shooting outside his clinic.
Wichita police said they were searching for a powder-blue Ford Taurus in connection with the killing, which took place outside Reformation Lutheran Church shortly after 10 a.m.
Witnesses provided a license number of the car the killer used to speed away from the church, police spokesman Gordon Bassham said.
The anti-abortion group Operation Rescue, which has led numerous demonstrations at Tiller's clinic, condemned the shooting as a "cowardly act."
"Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice," the group said in a statement. It offered its prayers for Tiller's family, "that they will find comfort and healing that can only be found in Jesus Christ."
Abortion is one of the hottest buttons in U.S. politics, with opponents arguing the practice is tantamount to the murder of an unborn child. Abortion rights supporters argue that the decision to terminate a pregnancy is best left to the woman.
On its Web site, Operation Rescue refers to Tiller as a "monster" who has "been able to get away with murder," and abortion rights opponents have launched several efforts to get his clinic shut down.
In March, Tiller was acquitted of 19 counts of performing procedures unlawfully at his clinic. In 2008, a probe initiated by abortion opponents who petitioned state authorities to convene a grand jury ended without charges.
The 1993 attack on Tiller left him wounded through both arms. An ardent foe of abortion, Shelley Shannon, was convicted of attempted murder and is serving a 20-year sentence in federal prison for the shooting.
If Tiller was slain because of his work, he would be the fourth U.S. physician killed by abortion opponents since 1993. In addition, a nurse at a Birmingham, Alabama, clinic was maimed and an off-duty police officer was killed in a 1998 bombing by Eric Rudolph, who included abortion among his list of anti-government grievances.
Rudolph admitted to that attack and three other bombings -- including the 1996 attack on the Olympic games in Atlanta, Georgia -- and is serving life in prison.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/31/kansas.doctor.killed/index.html
But... Christianity is a religion of peace. :cry:
Why can't they call themselves what they are?
They're not pro-life, they're pro-fucked up lives.
Boy, talk about a really late-term abortion.
Just as I forecast back on the old Languish last year, the anti-choicers will definitely be coming out of the woodwork now that there's a Democrat president again.
Conservative terrorists strike again. :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2009, 03:14:24 PM
Boy, talk about a really late-term abortion.
Just as I forecast back on the old Languish last year, the anti-choicers will definitely be coming out of the woodwork now that there's a Democrat president again.
A poll comes out showing a majority of the country is pro life, so it was time for them to do something stupid to turn off most of the public again.
Quote from: Martinus on May 31, 2009, 03:07:35 PM
But... Christianity is a religion of peace. :cry:
No, that's Islam. Moron.
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2009, 03:23:38 PMA poll comes out showing a majority of the country is pro life, so it was time for them to do something stupid to turn off most of the public again.
At least this will add impetus to Obama's DOJ restarting the Abortion Clinic Violence Task Force, which Father Ashcroft so conveniently disbanded.
Do we know that the shooting was abortion-related? Perhaps he owed some drug money.
Quote from: Phillip V on May 31, 2009, 03:36:24 PM
Do we know that the shooting was abortion-related? Perhaps he owed some drug money.
Magic 8-Balls says: signs point to yes.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2009, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2009, 03:23:38 PMA poll comes out showing a majority of the country is pro life, so it was time for them to do something stupid to turn off most of the public again.
At least this will add impetus to Obama's DOJ restarting the Abortion Clinic Violence Task Force, which Father Ashcroft so conveniently disbanded.
Oddly enough, there weren't many doctor-shootings when the Republicans were in the White House. Democrats are soft on crime.
I am normally against the death penalty, but perhaps it would be fitting for the pro-life killer. :P
Late-term abortions are heinous.
Quote from: Zanza2 on May 31, 2009, 05:02:54 PM
I am normally against the death penalty, but perhaps it would be fitting for the pro-life killer. :P
Death penalty by rusty hanger perhaps?
Quote from: PRC on May 31, 2009, 05:17:22 PM
Late-term abortions are heinous.
And their availability happens to be necessary.
I dunno. If you truly believe abortion is murder, then shouldn't you laud this guy's, umm, mutfrt, even if you recognize that the price of breaking the law is whatever should be required? I recognize there are people who are pro-life who are pacifists, but otherwise... I dunno.
I don't agree, and am being somewhat needlessly provocatory, but I'm curious why this shouldn't be a heroic case of civil disobedience.
QuoteChrist Kills Two, Injures Seven In Abortion-Clinic Attack
HUNTSVILLE, AL–Jesus Christ, son of God and noted pro-life activist, killed two and critically wounded seven others when He opened fire in the waiting room of a Huntsville abortion clinic Tuesday.
Security guards at the Women's Medical Clinic of Huntsville were able to disarm the Messiah before He could reload His weapon, a secondhand Glock 9mm pistol that authorities said He purchased legally at a Jackson, MS, sporting-goods store. "Abortion is a sin," said Christ as He was led away in handcuffs. "It is an abomination in the eyes of Me." Witnesses said the attack, which took the lives of Dr. Nelson Woodring, 51, and clinic nurse Danielle Costa, 29, came from "out of nowhere."
"He walked up to the admissions desk and asked if He could see Dr. Woodring," receptionist Iris Reid said. "The next thing I knew, He was shouting Biblical verses and opening fire on everything moving."
"It was horrible," said injured clinic nurse Jessica Combs, recovering at a local hospital with bullet wounds to the leg and abdomen. "He put his hands over Dr. Woodring's head and told him He forgave him for his sins, and then He shot him right in the face." Huntsville police officials are not certain how the Messiah was able to bypass clinic guards and proceed undetected past security cameras and into the clinic waiting room, where He produced the gun from its hiding place in the folds of His robe. Federal investigators are similarly baffled, saying that the heavily armed Christ had moved in "mysterious ways."
Speaking to reporters from His holding cell, Christ, 33, said He had "no regrets" about what He had done. "As I said in John 16:21, every life is precious," Christ said. "This means every life, not just those who have already been born. My father, the Lord, feels the same way I do. In Jeremiah 1:5, He said unto the prophet Jeremiah, 'Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart.' The unborn fetus is a sacred, living creation of my Father in Heaven and should be treated as such."
Added Christ: "What if the Virgin Mary had decided to abort me? Certainly she must have been tempted to do so. After all, it wasn't even her decision to conceive me in the first place. But in the end, she made the right decision, bringing her pregnancy to term and giving the world a Savior. Blessed is she among women." According to legal experts, if convicted, Christ could face the death penalty.
"The state of Alabama has the death penalty, and this crime is certainly the sort that would be construed as a capital offense," University of Michigan law professor Arthur Lipscomb said. "With the right judge and jury, Christ could very well be put to death yet again." In such a case, Lipscomb said, Alabama would likely use lethal injection rather than crucifixion. Christ said He is unafraid of the prospect of execution. "Those who know me know that I am willing to die for the sins of others, whether those sins be avarice, slothfulness, false idolatry or the butchering of unborn life," Christ said. "The bottom line is, abortion stops a beating heart." Tuesday's shooting is not Christ's first brush with the law. On April 8, 29, He was arrested in the Roman province of Judea for alleged false claims to the throne of the Kingdom of Israel. On Jan. 11, 1996, He and six other pro-life activists were jailed for blocking the entrance to a Cheektowaga, NY, abortion clinic. In October 1997, He was arrested for plotting to mail anthrax-laced packages to two dozen abortion doctors across the U.S. "Abortion is an abomination. It is a sin. It is murder," Christ said. "I only did what any good Christian would have done." Christ's followers have been overwhelmingly supportive of their leader.
"As it says in Psalm 139:13-16, 'For You created my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother's womb. My frame was not hidden from You when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body,'" said Ralph Anson of the Houston-based Every Life Is Precious. "Those people at that clinic were killers, and they deserved to die." "We may not understand everything He does, but we must believe it is for the best," said Rev. Joseph Abernathy, minister at First United Baptist Church of Huntsville. "As Christians, it is not our duty to question what our Savior does. We can only live according to His example."
Classic Onion. :)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2009, 07:30:55 PM
And their availability happens to be necessary.
One day before birth, "necessary", one day after birth...
Quote from: PRC on May 31, 2009, 08:38:48 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2009, 07:30:55 PM
And their availability happens to be necessary.
One day before birth, "necessary", one day after birth...
You know that isn't the case. I think the limit on abortion in the US is 28 weeks, and some states restrict it to earlier than that.
If you're a fan of Amanda Palmer or abortion you need to watch this video though. Pro-lifers may want to stay away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C17yfGyJjM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C17yfGyJjM)
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2009, 02:39:48 PM
If Tiller was slain because of his work, he would be the fourth U.S. physician killed by abortion opponents since 1993. In addition, a nurse at a Birmingham, Alabama, clinic was maimed and an off-duty police officer was killed in a 1998 bombing by Eric Rudolph, who included abortion among his list of anti-government grievances.
Yes, clearly it is the pro-life movement/Christianity at fault rather than faulty wiring in the killers.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 01, 2009, 12:08:44 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2009, 02:39:48 PM
If Tiller was slain because of his work, he would be the fourth U.S. physician killed by abortion opponents since 1993. In addition, a nurse at a Birmingham, Alabama, clinic was maimed and an off-duty police officer was killed in a 1998 bombing by Eric Rudolph, who included abortion among his list of anti-government grievances.
Yes, clearly it is the pro-life movement/Christianity at fault rather than faulty wiring in the killers.
What about the 911 attackers? Was it Islam/Islamism at fault or faulty wiring in them?
Quote from: Martinus on June 01, 2009, 12:19:05 AM
What about the 911 attackers? Was it Islam/Islamism at fault or faulty wiring in them?
I wouldn't blame Islam as a whole, but there's certainly a large group within it that has been systematically carrying out murders and bombings based on their religious/political beliefs.
My post was deadpan sarcasm, of course. My point was that the abortion doctor killings were isolated incidents. In fact, considering the size of the population that considers what they're doing to be legalized murder, it's remarkably low. Operation Rescue is one of the most radical anti-abortion groups out there(they're the ones who block clinics) and even they condemned the shooting. There's just not the network out there to support terrorist acts on the same scale as the Islamists.
Quote from: PRC on May 31, 2009, 08:38:48 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2009, 07:30:55 PM
And their availability happens to be necessary.
One day before birth, "necessary", one day after birth...
A woman has the right to abort a kid with catastrophic prenatal defects, particularly when she doesn't possess the ability to deal with a kid without a skull, or a spinal cord.
Say that reminds me, how'd you get that kid so darn fast? Me and Dot went in to adopt on account a' somethin' went wrong with my semen, and they said we had to wait five years for a healthy white baby. I said, "Healthy white baby? Five years? What else you got?" Said they got two Koreans and a negra born with his heart on the outside. It's a crazy world.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 01, 2009, 12:37:24 AM
My post was deadpan sarcasm, of course. My point was that the abortion doctor killings were isolated incidents. In fact, considering the size of the population that considers what they're doing to be legalized murder, it's remarkably low. Operation Rescue is one of the most radical anti-abortion groups out there(they're the ones who block clinics) and even they condemned the shooting. There's just not the network out there to support terrorist acts on the same scale as the Islamists.
Yeah, right. That's why James Kopp, the killer of Dr. Slepian, was finally found in Europe, bouncing from safe house to safe house hidden by Operation Rescuetards for 3 years. No network at all.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:11:02 AM
Yeah, right. That's why James Kopp, the killer of Dr. Slepian, was finally found in Europe, bouncing from safe house to safe house hidden by Operation Rescuetards for 3 years. No network at all.
Yeah and some of the radical 70s activists bounced around for decades. Doesn't change the fact that they were part of Mickey Mouse operations.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 01, 2009, 05:30:58 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:11:02 AM
Yeah, right. That's why James Kopp, the killer of Dr. Slepian, was finally found in Europe, bouncing from safe house to safe house hidden by Operation Rescuetards for 3 years. No network at all.
Yeah and some of the radical 70s activists bounced around for decades. Doesn't change the fact that they were part of Mickey Mouse operations.
You anti-choicetards are all the same.
Only one possible answer for this problem:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48199
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:06:57 AM
Say that reminds me, how'd you get that kid so darn fast? Me and Dot went in to adopt on account a' somethin' went wrong with my semen, and they said we had to wait five years for a healthy white baby. I said, "Healthy white baby? Five years? What else you got?" Said they got two Koreans and a negra born with his heart on the outside. It's a crazy world.
Posting this almost makes up for your retarded stance on the issue :)
Well, it's been a while, so I guess we were overdue for this. At least all the Christian organizations are falling over themselves to condemn it.
Quote from: Martinus on June 01, 2009, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 01, 2009, 12:08:44 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2009, 02:39:48 PM
If Tiller was slain because of his work, he would be the fourth U.S. physician killed by abortion opponents since 1993. In addition, a nurse at a Birmingham, Alabama, clinic was maimed and an off-duty police officer was killed in a 1998 bombing by Eric Rudolph, who included abortion among his list of anti-government grievances.
Yes, clearly it is the pro-life movement/Christianity at fault rather than faulty wiring in the killers.
What about the 911 attackers? Was it Islam/Islamism at fault or faulty wiring in them?
What about Jeffery Dahmer. Was it Gayness or faulty wiring? Or is that the same thing?
Quote from: Martinus on June 01, 2009, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 01, 2009, 12:08:44 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2009, 02:39:48 PM
If Tiller was slain because of his work, he would be the fourth U.S. physician killed by abortion opponents since 1993. In addition, a nurse at a Birmingham, Alabama, clinic was maimed and an off-duty police officer was killed in a 1998 bombing by Eric Rudolph, who included abortion among his list of anti-government grievances.
Yes, clearly it is the pro-life movement/Christianity at fault rather than faulty wiring in the killers.
What about the 911 attackers? Was it Islam/Islamism at fault or faulty wiring in them?
All muslims have faulty wiring and smell bad.
Everybody knows that, duh.
Ironically the 911 attackers made a very strong case for regional mass abortion.
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
Ironically the 911 attackers made a very strong case for regional mass abortion.
Think of the children, those poor little kids are innocent.
Its not their fault that they will all grow up to become terrorist and kill people from other cultures.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:11:02 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 01, 2009, 12:37:24 AM
My post was deadpan sarcasm, of course. My point was that the abortion doctor killings were isolated incidents. In fact, considering the size of the population that considers what they're doing to be legalized murder, it's remarkably low. Operation Rescue is one of the most radical anti-abortion groups out there(they're the ones who block clinics) and even they condemned the shooting. There's just not the network out there to support terrorist acts on the same scale as the Islamists.
Yeah, right. That's why James Kopp, the killer of Dr. Slepian, was finally found in Europe, bouncing from safe house to safe house hidden by Operation Rescuetards for 3 years. No network at all.
Didn't know that.. Well atleast the fact that they have a network in Europe..
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:11:02 AM
Yeah, right. That's why James Kopp, the killer of Dr. Slepian, was finally found in Europe, bouncing from safe house to safe house hidden by Operation Rescuetards for 3 years. No network at all.
In fairness the Europeans were protecting him primarly because Slepian was a Jew.
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:11:02 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 01, 2009, 12:37:24 AM
My post was deadpan sarcasm, of course. My point was that the abortion doctor killings were isolated incidents. In fact, considering the size of the population that considers what they're doing to be legalized murder, it's remarkably low. Operation Rescue is one of the most radical anti-abortion groups out there(they're the ones who block clinics) and even they condemned the shooting. There's just not the network out there to support terrorist acts on the same scale as the Islamists.
Yeah, right. That's why James Kopp, the killer of Dr. Slepian, was finally found in Europe, bouncing from safe house to safe house hidden by Operation Rescuetards for 3 years. No network at all.
Didn't know that.. Well atleast the fact that they have a network in Europe..
Captured in France, no less. Go fig.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 10:08:18 PM
Captured in France, no less. Go fig.
I didn't think the French repatriated capital cases.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2009, 10:42:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 10:08:18 PM
Captured in France, no less. Go fig.
I didn't think the French repatriated capital cases.
Only in cases where the DP is in play, IIRC.
-_-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ_U0QJ3dx0
Did you see this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZCoIege8oM&feature=related
This one funnier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMpXmpGpEF0&NR=1
Damn. You have attention span of a gnat.
At least he doesn't have the grammar of a Russian...
...some of the time.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 02, 2009, 10:20:45 PM
At least he doesn't have the grammar of a Russian...
...some of the time.
Raskolnikov! He is on to me. Lets get out of here Natasha!