I bought a 9mm Ruger LC9 for concealed carry. I went with the LC9 instead of the .380 cal Ruger LCP, which is smaller and easier to conceal, because it is easier for me to get 9mm rounds than .380.
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So far the LC9 feels great for a little gun.
What I don't like:
1- Trigger. Too long and too heavy. The trigger breaks all the way back close to the grip, and at over 6 lbs of trigger preasure, is hard to squeeze it properly when doing fast multiple targets engagement drills.
2- Recoil. With a 3.5 in barrel and 17 onces of weight, the recoil is kind of brisk. It is not that bad, just a little harder to control in such an small gun as compared with a the heavier 9mm Beretta. My wife couldn't keep the LC9's nose down to reacquire the target quickly enough for follow-up shots. For me, once you get used to the short grip, with a proper shooter stance and grip, you can manage the recoil fast enough.
What I like:
1- Compact size. It is truly invisible. I bought an inside-pants holster for this little toy, and you can't see it in my waist
2- Accuracy. Despite the short barrel, which is unevitable in such an small pistol, it is very accurate within 25 meters. Do not try shooting beyond that. Keep in mind though, you have to apply your fundamentals. The small frame of this gun leaves no marging for error.
3- Sights. They are standard 3-dots open sights, and very easy to align with both eyes open, like you should do with all guns anyway.
Bottom line, I was surprised by the recoil, but it was to be expected in such a small gun. The safety is under frame, release-once kind of thing. Good enough for me, though Glock users might hate it. I think is a nice little gun for concealed carry. At 325 dollars, it is Siege Recommended (tm).
Ah, the Ruger. A most excerrent gun. Squee. Mew.
Nice piece, brother. I looked at one of those when I got mine. Ended up going with a Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm compact.
Pfft. No rails for the goat accessory.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2013, 02:17:35 PM
Pfft. No rails for the goat accessory.
What, you need a laser for target acquisition within 25m?
Puss.
Quote from: Caliga on August 30, 2013, 02:10:12 PM
Nice piece, brother. I looked at one of those when I got mine. Ended up going with a Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm compact.
What kind of holster did you get? On-belt, inside-pants, inside-pocket, under-arm?
It makes me sad Marty is not around to see this thread :(
IWB. A Crossbreed Supertuck.
Quote from: Siege on August 30, 2013, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 30, 2013, 02:10:12 PM
Nice piece, brother. I looked at one of those when I got mine. Ended up going with a Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm compact.
What kind of holster did you get? On-belt, inside-pants, inside-pocket, under-arm?
Cal? Holster? Ha.
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
I sleep better at night knowing that rough Jews stand guard.
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
Considering the heavy weaponry he had access to on the job, coupled with apparent expertise with firearms. No.
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 30, 2013, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
Considering the heavy weaponry he had access to on the job, coupled with apparent expertise with firearms. No.
I'm assuming that on the job he doesn't drink. :contract:
He likely doesn't go about town drunk either.
Concealed permits would have no effect on his home arsenal.
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
Compared to those out there with no training, no permit, and criminal intentions? No, not at all.
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:54:10 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 30, 2013, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
Considering the heavy weaponry he had access to on the job, coupled with apparent expertise with firearms. No.
I'm assuming that on the job he doesn't drink. :contract:
Who's being naive, Kay?
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
I'm sure he'd go after Neil and Seedy first.
Wine coolers, CCWs and passive-aggressive PTSD. What could happen.
MAH SPREE
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2013, 02:57:27 PM
Wine coolers, CCWs and passive-aggressive PTSD. What could happen.
:contract:
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 30, 2013, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
Considering the heavy weaponry he had access to on the job, coupled with apparent expertise with firearms. No.
Yeah, I'm kinda cool with Seigy doing this stuff.
It's Cal that worries me, shooting his wife in the foot as he reaches for keycard for the works parking lot entrance.
MAH KEYCARD
Quote from: mongers on August 30, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
as he reaches for keycard for the works parking lot entrance.
Reaches for the what now? :hmm:
Quote from: Siege on August 30, 2013, 02:06:26 PM
I bought a 9mm Ruger LC9 for concealed carry. I went with the LC9 instead of the .380 cal Ruger LCP, which is smaller and easier to conceal, because it is easier for me to get 9mm rounds than .380.
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So far the LC9 feels great for a little gun.
What I don't like:
1- Trigger. Too long and too heavy. The trigger breaks all the way back close to the grip, and at over 6 lbs of trigger preasure, is hard to squeeze it properly when doing fast multiple targets engagement drills.
Cause it's a double action only. My SIG P250 is the same, long trigger pull. The SIG P250 has the smoothest DAO trigger. Rugers not so much.
Nice pistol though, it should fit the bill.
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
Ah, no
Love my ElsiePee, but I prefer the Taurus .380's trigger. Just butter. However, the LCP handles recoil better, despite the fact that they weigh about the same. I think it's because Taurus's point of balance is artificially higher up. 18 rounds through the LCP, hand's a little sore. 18 rounds through the Taurus, and it's like I've been swinging an axe all day.
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
You could nail someone in the head lobbing a brick 25m? I sure couldn't.
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Slings like a girl.
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
:hmm: I'd take the gun.
Quote from: DGuller on August 31, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
:hmm: I'd take the gun.
You're putting yourself at an immediate disadvantage.
Quote from: DGuller on August 31, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
:hmm: I'd take the gun.
What about the cannoli?
Quote from: DGuller on August 31, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
:hmm: I'd take the gun.
Never take a gun to a brick fight.
Man, I wouldn't want to be wearing a hooded sweat shirt with Siegy around.
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 31, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
:hmm: I'd take the gun.
Never take a gun to a brick fight.
Yeah, he'd be better off with a bat.
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2013, 02:57:27 PM
Wine coolers, CCWs and passive-aggressive PTSD. What could happen.
:contract:
If somebody snaps and decides to go on a shooting spree, I doubt they'll give up the idea because they don't want to conceal carry without a permit.
Should have got a Casull.
I still like my Walther PPK for CCW duty. Gives off that Hitler vibe. Putting on the Reich.
The Nazi meme only has a shelf life of a couple days, Ed.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2013, 10:27:35 AM
I still like my Walther PPK for CCW duty. Gives off that Hitler vibe. Putting on the Reich.
I hope you're talking a '30s-styled PPK, and not one of the 90s PPK shorts that Pierce Brosnan ruined for everyone.
'70's PPK. one meaty enough to hit somebody over the head with. If my slapjack isn't handy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 01, 2013, 10:29:00 AM
The Nazi meme only has a shelf life of a couple days, Ed.
Back to cat pictures then.
It was no fun to carry my P-38. I tried it a couple times, but I always felt like a stock movie villain.
Now, if I had a silencer for it, that would be different.
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
No, it wouldn't. Don't you know anything about physics?
That said, I'm glad I live in a country where people who try to carry handguns are jailed.
Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2013, 11:16:25 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Is it just me or would having a brick to throw at somebody be more lethal, more accurate, have greater range and not require a concealed carry permit?
No, it wouldn't. Don't you know anything about physics?
Well, technically, he got 1 of 4 right.
I get the feeling that if you just toted a brick around with you everywhere, at some point law-enforcement would get involved.
Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2013, 11:54:19 AM
I get the feeling that if you just toted a brick around with you everywhere, at some point law-enforcement would get involved.
Anything big enough to be carried, is big enough to be regulated.
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:54:10 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 30, 2013, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
No one else is terrified at the idea that Siege has a concealed carry permit? :unsure:
Considering the heavy weaponry he had access to on the job, coupled with apparent expertise with firearms. No.
I'm assuming that on the job he doesn't drink. :contract:
Number one about CCW is no drinking while carrying. If anything, it have cut down on my drinking. I cannot go to Olive Garden and have a tall Blue Moon anymore when I'm packing. And yes, I don't give a fuck about those "no CCW allowed" in the Great State of Tennessee. According to State laws I can CCW everywhere. As long as I abide by State Laws, like not drinking, etc.
I await you being thrown out of Olive Garden.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2013, 06:42:25 AM
I await you being thrown out of Olive Garden.
And that's when he pulls his gun, and the next morning we hear about some asshole getting shot by the cops because he had to be an asshole in a restaurant.
The unlimited breadsticks are worth it.
I believe it's illegal to drive or operate heavy machinery after consuming anything that has "Alfredo" in the name.
:lol:
I eat a Bertoli dinner, I have a 2 hour nap afterwards.
Quote from: Siege on September 02, 2013, 02:19:02 AM
Number one about CCW is no drinking while carrying. If anything, it have cut down on my drinking. I cannot go to Olive Garden and have a tall Blue Moon anymore when I'm packing. And yes, I don't give a fuck about those "no CCW allowed" in the Great State of Tennessee. According to State laws I can CCW everywhere. As long as I abide by State Laws, like not drinking, etc.
Does the CCW permit also extend to private property? I.e. can a company tell you to leave your gun at the door?
Quote from: Syt on September 02, 2013, 09:33:50 AM
Does the CCW permit also extend to private property? I.e. can a company tell you to leave your gun at the door?
Yup. Same goes with federal property. A state's CCW permit does not extend to the local post office.
Besides, they usually have their own guns.
Thought so.