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Title: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:35:48 AM
 :(

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30995329/
QuoteReport: Over 20,000 died in Sri Lanka battle
Newspaper reports mass killings in final days of offensive on Tamil fighters

LONDON - More than 20,000 Tamil civilians were killed in the final days of Sri Lanka's military operation to defeat Tamil Tigers rebels, The Times newspaper reported on Friday.

Sri Lanka's authorities say their forces stopped using heavy weapons on April 27 in a no-fire zone where an estimated 100,000 Tamil civilians were sheltered and blame civilian casualties on rebels hiding among the civilians, the paper said.

Citing confidential U.N. documents it acquired, The Times said the civilian death toll in the no-fire zone soared from late April, with around 1,000 civilians killed daily until May 19. That was the day after Vellupillai Prabhakaran, leader of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), was killed.

The final civilian death toll could be more than 20,000, said the paper.

U.N. High Commissioner of Human Rights Navi Pillay has said the LTTE recruited child soldiers and used civilians as human shields during the conflict, while the military had indiscriminately shelled areas packed with civilians.

Both sides have denied the allegations.

Sri Lanka has called a Western-led push for a rights and war crimes probe hypocrisy and a violation of its right to destroy the LTTE, which is listed as a terrorist organization by more than 30 countries.

The United Nations estimates that between 80,000 and 100,000 people died in what was one of Asia's longest modern wars, erupting in earnest in 1983 when the Tigers began to fight for a separate state for Sri Lanka's minority Tamils.

Copyright 2009 The Associated Press.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 10:38:44 AM
Yes wanting the Civil War to finally end after decades of slaughter is exactly the same as rejoicing at the deaths of people.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:40:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 10:38:44 AM
Yes wanting the Civil War to finally end after decades of slaughter is exactly the same as rejoicing at the deaths of people.
Don't try that with me, I know you've been bathing in the blood of innocents. :contract:
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 10:40:48 AM
How many are dying right now?
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Neil on May 29, 2009, 10:42:13 AM
Well, that's not so bad at all. :)
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Ed Anger on May 29, 2009, 10:42:16 AM
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I say...let 'em crash
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 10:44:33 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:40:24 AM
Don't try that with me, I know you've been bathing in the blood of innocents. :contract:

Only the unborn are innocent :menace:
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:45:28 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 10:44:33 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:40:24 AM
Don't try that with me, I know you've been bathing in the blood of innocents. :contract:

Only the unborn are innocent :menace:
And as you've proven in the recent abortion thread you love to bath in their blood. :contract:
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 10:51:52 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:45:28 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 10:44:33 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:40:24 AM
Don't try that with me, I know you've been bathing in the blood of innocents. :contract:

Only the unborn are innocent :menace:
And as you've proven in the recent abortion thread you love to bath in their blood. :contract:

Naw, just suck those aborted fetuses up through one of those ultra-wide novelty straws. Mmmm-good.  :D
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 10:51:52 AM
Naw, just suck those aborted fetuses up through one of those ultra-wide novelty straws. Mmmm-good.  :D

:mmm:

Of course I save some of the Christian aborted fetuses to sell to the local Jewish center to make Matzah for Passover.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:54:42 AM
Okay, now that's just gross. :x
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:54:42 AM
Okay, now that's just gross. :x

Quite right. Baked in matzoh is gross.

Everyone knows that the correct way to serve Christian fetus is with butter on matzoh.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Ed Anger on May 29, 2009, 10:57:18 AM
I'm hungry now.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 11:02:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 29, 2009, 10:57:18 AM
I'm hungry now.

The fresh blood in aborted fetuses often makes one vomit - and then one can suck up the resulting slurry, the flesh has already been pre-digested for ultra tenderness.

The best part is sharing with your friends.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Grey Fox on May 29, 2009, 11:04:39 AM
I'm thinking of converting now.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.


Was it something we said? :(
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.


Really?

I find this kind of stuff stunningly boring. What can be offensive about someone *trying* so hard to be offensive?

I am frankly kind of amazed that people find it interesting at all - but even more amazed that someone would find it actually offensive.

Especially in contrast to languish at its truly worst, when people go to great effort to be as calculatingly cruel to one another as possible.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
Would Tim be so harsh if the accusations were thorwn at American soliders?
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.


Really?


BB has some principles.  Something I don't suspect you'd understand.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: saskganesh on May 29, 2009, 11:23:20 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
Would Tim be so harsh if the accusations were thorwn at American soliders?

I'm sure he would eat it up.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: PDH on May 29, 2009, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
Would Tim be so harsh if the accusations were thorwn at American soliders?
Who is Thorwyn?
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 11:28:22 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
Would Tim be so harsh if the accusations were thorwn at American soliders?
20,000 dead civilians would be an easily provable or discredited charge. If proven and they were inflicted in a similar scenario rather than in some total war/third world war scenario I would be quite upset.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:31:13 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.


Really?


BB has some principles.  Something I don't suspect you'd understand.

I know you are just trying to illustrate my point about the difference between fake offensiveness and actually be a truly unpleasant human being, but it doesn't really work coming from you.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Siege on May 29, 2009, 11:31:20 AM
This thread is so unkosher.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 11:28:22 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
Would Tim be so harsh if the accusations were thorwn at American soliders?
20,000 dead civilians would be an easily provable or discredited charge. If proven and they were inflicted in a similar scenario rather than in some total war/third world war scenario I would be quite upset.

Similar accusations have been tossed at the US during the Iraq war.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:31:13 AM


I know you are just trying to illustrate my point about the difference between fake offensiveness and actually be a truly unpleasant human being, but it doesn't really work coming from you.

Many people find me unpleasant I don't know why that doesn't work for you.  I try so hard!
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:31:13 AM


I know you are just trying to illustrate my point about the difference between fake offensiveness and actually be a truly unpleasant human being, but it doesn't really work coming from you.

Many people find me unpleasant I don't know why that doesn't work for you.  I try so hard!

Your second sentence explains the first.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: DisturbedPervert on May 29, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
From that article it doesn't sound like they really know much at this point.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 29, 2009, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 29, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
From that article it doesn't sound like they really know much at this point.

Hard to get verification when there's still a diplomatic and media blackout in Sri Lanka. :contract:
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 29, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
From that article it doesn't sound like they really know much at this point.

That is no reason not to report and assign blame though.

Later, when you find out you were largely wrong on 90% of the facts, nobody will care anyway.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Slargos on May 29, 2009, 12:14:41 PM
I'm sure their families value their sacrifice.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Sheilbh on May 29, 2009, 12:21:02 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 12:08:29 PMThat is no reason not to report and assign blame though.

Later, when you find out you were largely wrong on 90% of the facts, nobody will care anyway.
God bless the British media.

Though they're not reporting it as facts.  They're reporting it as 'we think', 'he says' and so on.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 12:30:23 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 29, 2009, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:31:13 AM


I know you are just trying to illustrate my point about the difference between fake offensiveness and actually be a truly unpleasant human being, but it doesn't really work coming from you.

Many people find me unpleasant I don't know why that doesn't work for you.  I try so hard!

Your second sentence explains the first.

Well I suppose it's nice you find me pleasant.  But really I hope the International Brotherhood of Bouncers, Thugs and Goons local 29 breaks your legs.  Then charges you time and half for their services.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 01:03:16 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.

Because we didn't save you any?  :(

We would have, if we knew you were hungry.
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 01:09:44 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.


Really?

I find this kind of stuff stunningly boring. What can be offensive about someone *trying* so hard to be offensive?

I am frankly kind of amazed that people find it interesting at all - but even more amazed that someone would find it actually offensive.

Especially in contrast to languish at its truly worst, when people go to great effort to be as calculatingly cruel to one another as possible.

Aw, you are no fun.  :cry:
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 01:22:44 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 01:09:44 PM
Aw, you are no fun.  :cry:


Yeah Berkut is quite the buzzkill in this thread. :(
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: The Brain on May 29, 2009, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.

:o BB, off the deep end?
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 01:32:06 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 29, 2009, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.

:o BB, off the deep end?

What happens when a Crown Prosecutor ... goes bad?  :shifty:
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 01:22:44 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 01:09:44 PM
Aw, you are no fun.  :cry:


Yeah Berkut is quite the buzzkill in this thread. :(

Perhaps he longs for some "calculating cruelty".

Like Mono, with a hill of beans and a broken abacus.  :P
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 29, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
It took 6 years, but Languish has finally offended me.


Really?

Not really.  I was just leaving for a few hours anyways... :blush:
Title: Re: 20,000 Tamil Civilians killed; Valmy rejoices.
Post by: grumbler on May 30, 2009, 11:38:57 AM
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2009, 01:09:44 PM
Aw, you are no fun.  :cry:
I found it mildly amusing, for what that's worth.