:mmm: Franken-meat!
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/its-not-alive-franken-meat-lurches-lab-frying-pan-6C10835458
QuoteIt's (not) alive! Franken-meat lurches from the lab to the frying pan
Alan Boyle, Science Editor NBC News
6 hours ago
A hamburger that looks like one you'd get at any fast-food restaurant comes with a price tag of $330,000 — and it isn't even made out of natural meat. When volunteers taste it on Monday, in front of rows of VIPs and TV cameras, they'll be eating the first publicly available burger that comes from a laboratory instead of a dead animal.
To produce the patty, researchers will mix lab-grown beef muscle cells with salt, egg powder and bread crumbs. Beet juice and saffron will be added to give a more natural color to the bloodless burger. It'll be fried up in a pan, and seasoned with a dash of salt and pepper. With any luck, the burger should taste pretty much like your typical ground beef.
So why bother, when you can buy a burger made with real meat for no more than a couple of bucks?
The high-profile tasting in London is part of a years-long campaign to grow artificial meat without having to raise and kill billions of livestock animals — and as a result, head off a looming food crisis. Even the researchers behind the campaign acknowledge it could take a decade or more to turn lab-grown meat into a commercially viable alternative. But they see the effort as an environmental imperative.
Study after study has shown that the way farming is currently done will be simply unsustainable by 2050, due to rising population and a growing hunger for meat in countries such as China and Brazil. Plant-based protein substitutes could help head off the crisis — but so far, veggie burgers haven't exactly taken hold in mass markets.
A spot on the menu
That leaves an open spot on the menu for lab-grown meat products, such as the burger that will be cooked and served by University of Maastricht physiology professor Mark Post.
"What we are going to attempt is important because I hope it will show cultured beef has the answers to major problems that the world faces," Post said in a statement issued in advance of the tasting. "Our burger is made from muscle cells taken from a cow. We haven't altered them in any way. For it to succeed, it has to look, feel and hopefully taste like the real thing."
Over the past five years, Post and his colleagues in the Netherlands have worked out a system to take stem cells from a living cow, put them into a nutrient solution, and grow them into small strands of muscle tissue. About 20,000 such strands are needed to make one five-ounce burger.
The project was initially funded by the Dutch government, but when that money ran out, an anonymous donor contributed €250,000 ($330,000) to keep the effort alive.
Looking ahead
Lab-grown meat, also known as in-vitro meat or "shmeat" (sheet meat), is just one of the more recent twists in a decades-long effort to develop alternatives to the kind of meat humans have been eating for millennia. Several research groups are working on plant-based substitutes that have a better taste and texture than the current offerings, as well as a lower cost. Among the research leaders in the field are Beyond Meat, Match, Plenti and a stealth venture known as Maraxi.
Products such as Post's cultured beef are aimed at a slightly different market: consumers who are looking for the taste and texture of true meat, served up sustainably. Even Ingrid Newkirk, co-founder and president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, acknowledges that it's a sizable market. "It's very hard for some people to break a habit," she told NBC News.
That's why PETA is sponsoring a $1 million prize for the first venture to commercialize the production of lab-grown chicken meat. Newkirk said she hopes someone will win the prize before next March's deadline. "There's going to be a big competition for patents, so we have to factor that in," she said. "If we have somebody, they will come through the door at the 11th hour."
The benefits could be significant. Researchers from Oxford University and the University of Amsterdam estimated that lab-based methods could reduce the energy used for meat production by as much as 45 percent, and cut the associated greenhouse-gas emissions by up to 96 percent.
But it will take years for cultured meat to make the leap from the tasting table to the supermarket.
A California-based venture called Modern Meadow is working on 3-D printing techniques for creating artificial meat as well as artificial leather from cultured cells. Andras Forgacs, the company's co-founder and chief executive, said he expected to come out with commercial leather products within the next few years. "Meat is going to take longer," he said, due to the technical and regulatory complexities.
Forgacs, whose father cooked up and ate a 3-D-printed pork chop during a TedMed presentation in 2011, doesn't see Post as a rival. "We're excited about the progress that Mark Post has made, and will be tuning in to see how his tasting goes," he told NBC News.
"This is a field that's going to require innovation from many corners of the world," Forgacs said. "I hope this creates more awareness for this emerging field of technology."
Hippies. :rolleyes:
Take that, my vegan ex-girlfriend!
Pretty exciting and interesting developement. I wonder what variety of foods we can produce synthetically and the impacts on nutrition and land use? The implications are pretty mind boggling.
Such old news. This talented young journalist picked up on the story in March 2012:
http://www.foodprocessing-technology.com/features/featurelab-grown-meat-promises-burgers-without-the-bovine/ (http://www.foodprocessing-technology.com/features/featurelab-grown-meat-promises-burgers-without-the-bovine/)
:ph34r:
Frankenfood is generally used for genetically modified crops and livestock, and none is involved in this process. However, as it uses electrical stimulation, perhaps the Frankenstein analogy is more apt.
Quote from: Brazen on August 05, 2013, 07:34:58 AM
Such old news. This talented young journalist picked up on the story in March 2012:
http://www.foodprocessing-technology.com/features/featurelab-grown-meat-promises-burgers-without-the-bovine/ (http://www.foodprocessing-technology.com/features/featurelab-grown-meat-promises-burgers-without-the-bovine/)
:ph34r:
Frankenfood is generally used for genetically modified crops and livestock, and none is involved in this process. However, as it uses electrical stimulation, perhaps the Frankenstein analogy is more apt.
Yeah, timmay should quote you instead.
For sustainable protein sources would you rather eat lab-grown beef or fly larvae?
http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/ (http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/)
Quote from: Brazen on August 05, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
For sustainable protein sources would you rather eat lab-grown beef or fly larvae?
http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/ (http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/)
I'd eat the one that tastes like bacon.
Quote from: Brazen on August 05, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
For sustainable protein sources would you rather eat lab-grown beef or fly larvae?
http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/ (http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/)
Fuck sustainable sources.
Quote from: garbon on August 05, 2013, 08:02:03 AM
Quote from: Brazen on August 05, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
For sustainable protein sources would you rather eat lab-grown beef or fly larvae?
http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/ (http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/)
Fuck sustainable sources.
You are such a rebel.
This is very interesting, especially as someone already said, it could have huge implications for the growing of other foods, including vegetables.
Quote from: sbr on August 05, 2013, 08:07:22 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 05, 2013, 08:02:03 AM
Quote from: Brazen on August 05, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
For sustainable protein sources would you rather eat lab-grown beef or fly larvae?
http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/ (http://www.gizmag.com/farm-432-fly-larva-food/28509/)
Fuck sustainable sources.
You are such a rebel.
Am I? :wub:
But what about sustainable fuck sources?
Quote from: Valmy on August 05, 2013, 09:33:34 AM
But what about sustainable fuck sources?
An illusion.
Quote from: KRonn on August 05, 2013, 09:10:15 AM
This is very interesting, especially as someone already said, it could have huge implications for the growing of other foods, including vegetables.
Only if it is cheaper than growing cows. In terms of land usage, resources, staff, etc.
I finally took the family out to the Smashburger location near home. We drive by it every morning when I take the kids to pre-school, so my son asks about it every day.
Dunno if it was because I was dying of hunger, but my burger was really good. Only thing I didn't like was the skinny little shoestring fries. They tasted okay (espec. the olive oil & rosemary ones), but they're just annoying to eat.
My two-year old daughter still refuses to eat beef, which worries me.
Quote from: derspiess on August 05, 2013, 11:20:48 AM
My two-year old daughter still refuses to eat beef, which worries me.
:o
Better go get that checked out!
Quote from: garbon on August 05, 2013, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 05, 2013, 11:20:48 AM
My two-year old daughter still refuses to eat beef, which worries me.
:o
Better go get that checked out!
I know. She's half-Argentine, for crying out loud :(
"It's half pony dear"
is it made out of Twilight Sparkle?
"Yes"
*CHOMP*
Eh it is hard for little kids to chew beef. I wouldn't worry too much.
EAT YOUR STEAK
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
Ed Anger child rearing Pro Tip: try Sloppy Joe's for the reluctant beef eater. And not that canned manwich shit either.
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on August 05, 2013, 12:18:21 AM
Take that, my vegan ex-girlfriend!
Take what? That's silly. The advent of artificial meat is the best news a vegetarian could ever receive. Except two chicks at one time.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 05, 2013, 12:13:43 PM
Ed Anger child rearing Pro Tip: try Sloppy Joe's for the reluctant beef eater. And not that canned manwich shit either.
I've never done Sloppy Joes for them, but I've been meaning to. My brothers didn't like them so much when we were kids, but I sure did.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 05, 2013, 12:13:43 PM
Ed Anger child rearing Pro Tip: try Sloppy Joe's for the reluctant beef eater. And not that canned manwich shit either.
Ugh I hated those. I never wanted foods that were messy (or anything messy period). :blush:
Quote from: garbon on August 05, 2013, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 05, 2013, 12:13:43 PM
Ed Anger child rearing Pro Tip: try Sloppy Joe's for the reluctant beef eater. And not that canned manwich shit either.
Ugh I hated those. I never wanted foods that were messy (or anything messy period). :blush:
Not a soccer fan I suppose.
Oh you should have seen me play youth soccer in the rain. :D :Embarrass:
Quote from: garbon on August 05, 2013, 03:07:11 PM
Oh you should have seen me play youth soccer in the rain. :D :Embarrass:
:w00t:
Calm down, Grallon.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 05, 2013, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on August 05, 2013, 12:18:21 AM
Take that, my vegan ex-girlfriend!
Take what? That's silly. The advent of artificial meat is the best news a vegetarian could ever receive. Except two chicks at one time.
Hey man, those cells are like...alive!
Reading this article brings that old Civilisation clone "Call to Power" to mind. :hmm:
Apparently it didn't taste that great
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/06/science/a-lab-grown-burger-gets-a-taste-test.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ref=global-home&adxnnlx=1375729292-2FP+SV/W47RXGRtc+1tt0g&
Quote from: derspiess on August 05, 2013, 11:20:48 AM
I finally took the family out to the Smashburger location near home. We drive by it every morning when I take the kids to pre-school, so my son asks about it every day.
Dunno if it was because I was dying of hunger, but my burger was really good. Only thing I didn't like was the skinny little shoestring fries. They tasted okay (espec. the olive oil & rosemary ones), but they're just annoying to eat.
My two-year old daughter still refuses to eat beef, which worries me.
I like Smashburger (got one right by the office), but for that type of thing I like Five Guys better.
Quote from: Caliga on August 05, 2013, 07:04:45 PM
I like Smashburger (got one right by the office), but for that type of thing I like Five Guys better.
Just for the burger itself I think I prefer Smashburger. Factor in the fries and price and it's Five Guys. I haven't been to Five Guys in ages, though. I don't frequent burger joints much these days, and their locations are always out of my way.