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Title: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Syt on July 21, 2013, 01:45:39 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-drank-102000-worth-historic-whiskey/story?id=19712785

QuoteMan Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey

The owner of an historic inn in Pittsburgh has brought charges against a former tenant she says was supposed safeguard 50 bottles of vintage whiskey valued at more than $100,000 but drank it all instead.

The owner of the South Broadway Manor Bed and Breakfast, Patricia Hill, found 104 bottles of Old Farm Pure Rye Whiskey when she bought the historic mansion and converted it into a bed and breakfast. It had originally belonged to Pittsburgh businessman J.P. Brennan.

The whiskey had been distilled in 1912 and given to Brennan in 1918, she told ABC News affiliate WTAE.

"There were four cases, 52 bottles, manufactured by an old distillery here in the Township that went out of business many years ago," Barry Pritts, chief of police in Scottdale, Pa., said today.

He said the bottles had been made and sold before Prohibition and then passed down.

TheOld Farm Pure Rye Whiskey was part of a collection of historical whiskey believed to have been consumed by Henry Frick and Andrew Carnegie in the early 1900s in Pittsburgh, Rick Bruckner, the chef at the South Broadway Manor, told WTAE.

"The family that owned the estate, somebody hid it under a flight of stairs and enclosed the staircase, and the estate went through several families. The lady that owns it now was doing a remodeling project and the people who were doing the work found them," Pritts said.

Hill did not immediately return calls for comment. Pritts said that Hill put the whiskey bottles in the basement while the main floors were being renovated. John Saunders, 62, was a caretaker who lived in the basement and was expected to safeguard the booze.

"You know, to watch over them and keep them secure. I guess that was a mistake," Pritts said.

Hill discovered that 52 of the bottles had been emptied in March 2012, and reported it to police. All four cases of whiskey had been emptied within about a year, Pitts said.

Saunders denied that he consumed the vintage alcohol, but police tested the empty bottles to see if they matched Saunders' DNA. After seven months of testing, police confirmed that Saunders' DNA was found on the bottles, and charged him with felony theft and receiving stolen property, Pritts said.

Saunders appeared for a preliminary hearing in court on Wednesday and will face trial.

His attorney, Patrice DiPietro, did not immediately return calls for comment from ABC News.

"The DNA doesn't lie. I'm just disappointed a family friend of over 40 years has lied," Hill said, according to WTAE. "It's a shame it took historic whiskey to realize and come to this point, but if it saved his life, maybe that's the best of it all."

A whiskey appraiser told WTAE the value of the missing whiskey is around $102,400. Pritts requested restitution in the amount of the full retail value.

Attorneys agreed Wednesday that further expert testimony and evidence will have to be heard to determine the exact retail value of the whiskey.

During the hearing Wednesday, Saunders' attorney noted to the court that Saunders is now awaiting a liver transplant, Pritts added.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: DGuller on July 21, 2013, 02:05:27 AM
What's wrong with his liver? :o
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Razgovory on July 21, 2013, 02:13:50 AM
Quote from: DGuller on July 21, 2013, 02:05:27 AM
What's wrong with his liver? :o

She stabbed him several times.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Viking on July 21, 2013, 05:43:59 AM
If he got cirrhosis from drinking the booze - fair dinkum he got what he deserved.

If he stole the vintage whiskey BECAUSE he was about to get a liver transplant and would never be allowed to drink again - OMG THE COOLEST THIEF EVER!!
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: garbon on July 21, 2013, 09:02:50 AM
Do we know over what duration of time he drank the 104 bottles?
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 21, 2013, 09:28:14 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2013, 09:02:50 AM
Do we know over what duration of time he drank the 104 bottles?

52, not 104.  He drank them "within a year", so he was averaging a bottle a week.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: lustindarkness on July 21, 2013, 10:55:59 AM
Karma?
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 21, 2013, 03:22:34 PM
Probably should have put them in a more secure environment than a friend's place.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Razgovory on July 21, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
Does whiskey stay good after 100 years?
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: The Brain on July 21, 2013, 03:31:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 21, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
Does whiskey stay good after 100 years?

Yes.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2013, 05:46:49 PM
Siegy gets blitzed on $10.20 worth of Mike's Hard Lemonade every weekend.  That adds up, too.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on July 22, 2013, 06:36:42 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 21, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
Does whiskey stay good after 100 years?

It's typically no less than 80 proof, anything that strong is going to basically not have any microbial growth problems. It's its own preservative. This is why it was so frequently made from corn or rye by farmers, that stuff spoils, so once you've sold/used what you could of your harvest you turn the rest into whiskey and you've got a form of "savings" you can sell off anytime you want (or drink.)

Once it's exposed to the air you need to drink it at some point, though. Not necessarily hours (like with wine), but a once-opened bottle that's been on a shelf for 20 years will have taste problems.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Ed Anger on July 22, 2013, 06:52:45 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2013, 05:46:49 PM
Siegy gets blitzed on $10.20 worth of Mike's Hard Lemonade every weekend.  That adds up, too.

Or that Redd's apple ale. Yuk.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on July 22, 2013, 06:36:42 AM
Once it's exposed to the air you need to drink it at some point, though. Not necessarily hours (like with wine), but a once-opened bottle that's been on a shelf for 20 years will have taste problems.
Red wine will stay drinkable for more than 'hours'.  I've kept open bottles of red for up to two weeks and while it definitely had degraded, it was hardly vinegar yet.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 08:36:10 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
I've kept open bottles of red for up to two weeks and while it definitely had degraded, it was hardly vinegar yet.

Must really wash down those ketchup and relish packets over by the nacho cheese dispenser.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:51:06 AM
Quit stalking me.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: garbon on July 22, 2013, 08:56:10 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 08:36:10 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
I've kept open bottles of red for up to two weeks and while it definitely had degraded, it was hardly vinegar yet.

Must really wash down those ketchup and relish packets over by the nacho cheese dispenser.

:lol:
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on July 22, 2013, 08:57:20 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on July 22, 2013, 06:36:42 AM
Once it's exposed to the air you need to drink it at some point, though. Not necessarily hours (like with wine), but a once-opened bottle that's been on a shelf for 20 years will have taste problems.
Red wine will stay drinkable for more than 'hours'.  I've kept open bottles of red for up to two weeks and while it definitely had degraded, it was hardly vinegar yet.

No, it doesn't turn to vinegar within hours--you are correct. It is not drinkable the next week, now I concede it is probably drinkable by you or someone like those old ladies that buy the huge jugs of red wine and refrigerate it for a few weeks. For someone that appreciates the taste of the wine, not so much. Red wine left on the counter overnight has its taste destroyed, you may be able to push it to being drinkable the next evening if you recork or seal bottle and immediately refrigerate after opening--I've done that, but it's never as good as the night before.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 09:03:54 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:51:06 AM
Quit stalking me.

MAH BUFFALO CHICKEN ROLLERS
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 09:05:55 AM
Fuck, I wish they sold those at Elmar's BP. :(
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Valmy on July 22, 2013, 09:09:04 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 09:05:55 AM
Fuck, I wish they sold those at Elmar's BP. :(

:lol:
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: derspiess on July 22, 2013, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on July 22, 2013, 06:36:42 AM
Once it's exposed to the air you need to drink it at some point, though. Not necessarily hours (like with wine), but a once-opened bottle that's been on a shelf for 20 years will have taste problems.
Red wine will stay drinkable for more than 'hours'.  I've kept open bottles of red for up to two weeks and while it definitely had degraded, it was hardly vinegar yet.

I'm no wine snob but I can tell it lost something the day after it was opened.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 09:14:53 AM
I can too, dudes.  I wasn't trying to say it still tastes the same... but you can still drink it.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Ed Anger on July 22, 2013, 09:41:33 AM
Cal drinks it the Polack way. With ice.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 09:43:08 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 22, 2013, 09:41:33 AM
Cal drinks it the Polack way. With ice.
Now THAT is an unforgivable insult, sirrah. :mad:
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: MadImmortalMan on July 22, 2013, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 21, 2013, 09:28:14 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2013, 09:02:50 AM
Do we know over what duration of time he drank the 104 bottles?

52, not 104.  He drank them "within a year", so he was averaging a bottle a week.

That isn't going to blow out the guy's liver on its own. Clearly, the lady put the whiskey in the care of a lifelong alcoholic to safeguard.
Title: Re: Man Drank $102,000 Worth of Historic Whiskey, awaits liver transplant
Post by: garbon on July 22, 2013, 10:58:50 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 09:14:53 AM
I can too, dudes.  I wasn't trying to say it still tastes the same... but you can still drink it.

Well assuming the "you" here is able to swallow, sure.