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Title: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: mongers on June 30, 2013, 11:02:51 PM
Damn that's bad  :(  :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23123817 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23123817)

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Firefighters die battling Arizona wildfire

At least 19 US firefighters have been killed battling a wildfire in central Arizona, local officials say.

They died while fighting the blaze threatening the town of Yarnell, about 80 miles (130km) north-west of Phoenix.

The fire started on Friday but later spread rapidly amid high heat, low humidity and windy conditions.

Arizona and other parts of the western United States - including California - have recorded near-record temperatures over the weekend.

"It has been confirmed that 19 wildland firefighters have lost their lives on the Yarnell Hill fire Arizona," the US Wildland Fire Aviation said in a statement, according to Reuters.

The agency said it was asking "for prayers for the families and friends of these brave men and women".

Some 200 firefighters are battling the fast-moving wildfire and about 50 houses have reportedly been evacuated.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 30, 2013, 11:49:23 PM
Terrible news.  :(
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 01, 2013, 02:01:18 AM
I wonder if fire jumpers carry something with them to use if they don't want to burn to death.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2013, 02:23:15 AM
They have fire proof tents for last resort, but this fire was to fierce and overwhelmed them.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 01, 2013, 03:45:10 AM
Yeah, they carry those fire-proof deployable shelters, they look like fire-proof sleeping bags, to jump into in case the fire changes direction and overcomes them. 

Stops fire, but not asphyxiation.  That's how those forestry firefighters died 20 years ago in Colorado.

Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: mongers on July 01, 2013, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 01, 2013, 02:01:18 AM
I wonder if fire jumpers carry something with them to use if they don't want to burn to death.

:hmm:

Nothing will adequately protect them from the extreme dangers they sometimes face.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Caliga on July 01, 2013, 01:02:38 PM
 :huh:

I think he meant something akin to a cyanide pill. :mellow:
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: DGuller on July 01, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 01, 2013, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 01, 2013, 02:01:18 AM
I wonder if fire jumpers carry something with them to use if they don't want to burn to death.

:hmm:

Nothing will adequately protect them from the extreme dangers they sometimes face.
:lol:
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Siege on July 01, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Warzones have bad people shooting all kinds of deadly things at you trying to kill you.

Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2013, 07:05:02 AM
Yikes, the only member of the unit that survived had left to get a recovery vehicle.   Talk about survivor's guilt.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 02, 2013, 07:13:14 AM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Warzones have bad people shooting all kinds of deadly things at you trying to kill you.

And wildfire is God throwing deadly fire and smoke trying to kill you.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Siege on July 02, 2013, 02:56:13 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 02, 2013, 07:13:14 AM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Warzones have bad people shooting all kinds of deadly things at you trying to kill you.

And wildfire is God throwing deadly fire and smoke trying to kill you.

True. But a warzone does not make.
War is a human activity.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Razgovory on July 02, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
Ants wage war.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Siege on July 02, 2013, 03:04:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 02, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
Ants wage war.

No they don't.
They hunt.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Razgovory on July 02, 2013, 03:23:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 02, 2013, 03:04:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 02, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
Ants wage war.

No they don't.
They hunt.

They actually attack other colonies of the same species, take prisoners, and use them as slaves.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Malthus on July 02, 2013, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 02, 2013, 03:23:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 02, 2013, 03:04:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 02, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
Ants wage war.

No they don't.
They hunt.

They actually attack other colonies of the same species, take prisoners, and use them as slaves.

Siege hasn't done that.  ;)
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
Congrats to Siegy and Raz for another successful threadshitting.
And we didn't even have time to deploy our emergency threadshit shelters.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: HVC on July 02, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
Congrats to Siegy and Raz for another successful threadshitting.
And we didn't even have time to deploy our emergency threadshit shelters.
One of them is crazy. I don't know what Raz's excuse is.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 02, 2013, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: HVC on July 02, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
One of them is crazy. I don't know what Raz's excuse is.

Ants really do have wars.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 02, 2013, 06:58:59 PM
I must also agree on the ant issue.  -_-
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: HVC on July 02, 2013, 09:10:02 PM
So do chimps. Lots of animals do. Although what ants do is more like raiding than  warfare.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Malthus on July 03, 2013, 08:51:11 AM
We get pavement ant wars on our driveway every year.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Razgovory on July 03, 2013, 09:09:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
Congrats to Siegy and Raz for another successful threadshitting.
And we didn't even have time to deploy our emergency threadshit shelters.

Why, what were you talking about?
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Siege on July 03, 2013, 01:25:52 PM
Dude, war without weapons aint a war, but some fist fight at a bar.

War require weapons, organized combatants, etc.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Siege on July 03, 2013, 01:26:41 PM
Quote from: HVC on July 02, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
Congrats to Siegy and Raz for another successful threadshitting.
And we didn't even have time to deploy our emergency threadshit shelters.
One of them is crazy. I don't know what Raz's excuse is.

Hey, I got your joke. Not funny.
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Malthus on July 03, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 03, 2013, 01:25:52 PM
Dude, war without weapons aint a war, but some fist fight at a bar.

War require weapons, organized combatants, etc.

Ants use weapons:

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2011/june/invading-argentine-ants-060611.html

;)
Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: Siege on July 03, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
Ok, OK!

Ants have wars.


Title: Re: It's A Warzone Out There
Post by: The Brain on July 03, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
Ants have wars, but they also find time for tender moments. A Sunday stroll with the family. An evening at home with the love of your life. Sunsets.