I swear, there's an INXS song in there somewhere.
The long and the short of of it is this: in their infinite wisdom, the legislature of the state of Mississippi passed a law clarifying Mississipian's constitutional gun rights. Now, our state constitution says, and I quote, "The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."
The attorney general has opined that the new law expands the Wild West into Mississippi:
http://www.agjimhood.com/images/uploads/forms/guncarryopinion.pdf
We are all of a sudden, with absolutely no forewarning, forethought, or anything else, Tombstone.
It's a great time to be a sign printer, because business owners can only exclude guns from their property with posted signs.
Also, open carry is legal in bars. You can't even carry concealed in bars with an enhanced permit, and law enforcement can't unless they are in the performance of their duties.
I love 'Murrica!
Quote from: Scipio on June 28, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
I swear, there's an INXS song in there somewhere.
The long and the short of of it is this: in their infinite wisdom, the legislature of the state of Mississippi passed a law clarifying Mississipian's constitutional gun rights. Now, our state constitution says, and I quote, "The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."
The attorney general has opined that the new law expands the Wild West into Mississippi:
http://www.agjimhood.com/images/uploads/forms/guncarryopinion.pdf
We are all of a sudden, with absolutely no forewarning, forethought, or anything else, Tombstone.
It's a great time to be a sign printer, because business owners can only exclude guns from their property with posted signs.
Also, open carry is legal in bars. You can't even carry concealed in bars with an enhanced permit, and law enforcement can't unless they are in the performance of their duties.
I love 'Murrica!
What hysterics. :lol: But I dont agree with carrying, concealed or open in bars, nightclubs, taverns, or the like.
I thought you weren't allowed to carry guns in the town of Tombstone? :unsure:
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2013, 11:22:24 AM
What hysterics. :lol: But I dont not agree with carrying, concealed or open in bars, nightclubs, taverns, or the like.
I do not not disagree with your position here.
Allowing firearms in a bar is a terrible, terrible idea.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2013, 11:22:24 AMQuoteThe attorney general has opined that the new law expands the Wild West into Mississippi:
What hysterics.
Indeed. Most frontier towns made you turn in your guns while you stayed there.
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2013, 11:24:44 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2013, 11:22:24 AM
What hysterics. :lol: But I dont not agree with carrying, concealed or open in bars, nightclubs, taverns, or the like.
I do not not disagree with your position here.
Fixed it.
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"The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."
Does that language not actually narrow down your rights? What did it say previously?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 28, 2013, 11:46:58 AM
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"The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."
Does that language not actually narrow down your rights? What did it say previously?
No, that's the constitutional language. HB 2, which modifies a number of state laws, basically says that carrying in a holster is open carry, not concealed, and that open carry is presumed legal, and they can't Terry stop you for carrying a legal firearm openly.
Wait, this applies to blacks too?
Alcohol and guns don't mix.
However, I am all for as much freedom as we can get.
Every regulation and law, not matter what kind, implies a goverment employee to enforce it. The less laws and regulations, the smaller the goverment we can have, and the lower the taxes.
Ohio is thinking about adopting Stand Your Ground. And more importantly, banning red light cameras.
Quote from: Siege on June 28, 2013, 01:35:29 PM
Alcohol and guns don't mix.
You can have a drink in your hand. You can have a gun on your hip. If you have both, you'll get nabbed.
Quote from: Siege on June 28, 2013, 01:35:29 PM
Alcohol and guns don't mix.
However, I am all for as much freedom as we can get.
Every regulation and law, not matter what kind, implies a goverment employee to enforce it. The less laws and regulations, the smaller the goverment we can have, and the lower the taxes.
In that case requiring picture ID to vote, when there is no compelling reason to do so, would be something you would be against.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 28, 2013, 01:43:04 PM
Ohio is thinking about adopting Stand Your Ground. And more importantly, banning red light cameras.
I think I've only encountered one red light camera, and it's all the way up in Middletown.
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2013, 02:13:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 28, 2013, 01:43:04 PM
Ohio is thinking about adopting Stand Your Ground. And more importantly, banning red light cameras.
I think I've only encountered one red light camera, and it's all the way up in Middletown.
Springfield is chock full of them.
Scip, chill. We have pretty much those same laws here and it's cool. :bowler:
I don't know if you can open carry into a bar but you definitely cannot carry concealed in one, so you probably can't carry openly either.
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
I thought you weren't allowed to carry guns in the town of Tombstone? :unsure:
The one time an elected official in Mississippi takes a rational stand on an issue like gun control, he still gets it wrong. :P
Presumably a bar owner can post a sign forbidding weapons?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 28, 2013, 07:30:25 PM
Presumably a bar owner can post a sign forbidding weapons?
Only if he is hysterical.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 28, 2013, 07:30:25 PM
Presumably a bar owner can post a sign forbidding weapons?
I was recently reading that almost no one could pass the literacy tests they used to give in the South. That may not be effective.
Is it legal to use someone else's gun to shoot them while protecting yourself from them?
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 28, 2013, 08:06:13 PM
Is it legal to use someone else's gun to shoot them while protecting yourself from them?
I don't see why not. :)
I like this law. All the defense, none of the hassle.
Quote from: Scipio on June 28, 2013, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 28, 2013, 11:46:58 AM
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"The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."
Does that language not actually narrow down your rights? What did it say previously?
No, that's the constitutional language. HB 2, which modifies a number of state laws, basically says that carrying in a holster is open carry, not concealed, and that open carry is presumed legal, and they can't Terry stop you for carrying a legal firearm openly.
Since the contitutional language specifically gives the legislature the power to regulate or forbid concealed carry, but apparantly says nothing about open carry, it would seem that a reasonable interpretation would be that the legislature
can't regulate or forbid open carry. And I would consider carrying a gun in a holster to be open carry, unless the holster itself is conceal, as f.e., a shoulder holster worn under a jacket. I don't really see an issue here, given the wording of your state constitution.