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Title: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on June 01, 2015, 04:42:35 AM
So I have a new icon in my notification tray that says I have a free upgrade to Windows 10 (currently on 7).

Is that something I should do? I mean, they skipped a number so it must be good.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Caliga on June 01, 2015, 07:02:48 AM
It's free, so why not?  I just registered for it myself.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 01, 2015, 07:05:55 AM
You totally should.  Totally. Should. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on June 01, 2015, 07:16:46 AM
Do It. Windows PC need to do away with having to support so many versions.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Syt on June 01, 2015, 07:31:19 AM
I believe the offer is good for up to one year after release of Win10? I will hold off for a few months (though by that time I might have a new PC, anyways).
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on June 01, 2015, 07:47:57 AM
They said so, yes.

They also announced the release date : July 29th.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Norgy on June 01, 2015, 12:02:58 PM
Technical preview version already available.
I wouldn't go for that one yet, unless you really, really know what you are doing. But Win 10 seems like a safe bet. And will have a new DirectX version.

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Syt on June 01, 2015, 12:49:29 PM
Whatever the final product will be like, it seems that MS have learned from the Win8 debacle ("You'll buy it and you will LIKE it!"). Now it's all, "Hey, you can have it for free. And it will be familiar (but so much better), and run on your current hardware*!"


*Unless your PC sucks in which case it won't.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Norgy on June 01, 2015, 01:29:27 PM
If you own a PC that can run Win 7, it probably will pull off Win 10 as well. From what I have gathered, it will be lighter.

I am not ready to upgrade yet, as I need to back the fuck up my personal files and folders.

I write Win 8 off as another Win ME.

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on June 01, 2015, 03:21:29 PM
It looks like to get 10 for free, I'd have to upgrade to Windows 8.1. I'm afraid to do so given how the last time I upgraded to 8.1, my computer broke. <_<
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on June 01, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
Do I really want to potentially fuck up my perfectly fine windows 7 pc? :hmm:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on June 01, 2015, 05:55:11 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 01, 2015, 03:21:29 PM
It looks like to get 10 for free, I'd have to upgrade to Windows 8.1. I'm afraid to do so given how the last time I upgraded to 8.1, my computer broke. <_<

Did you do that off the battery, the last time?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on June 01, 2015, 06:25:07 PM
Off the battery?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on June 01, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
I assume you have a laptop, I asking if you were updating without being plugged in into the wall.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monoriu on June 02, 2015, 01:08:45 AM
I am very worried.  I am using Windows 7 now.  Will it automatically install Windows 10?  If so, I need to find a way to prevent it before it happens.  Any ideas for the computer illiterate?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 02, 2015, 01:15:42 AM
Relax Mono, installing Windows 10 is not automatic. Even if you register for the upgrade, you can still choose when to install.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on June 02, 2015, 02:32:32 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 01, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
I assume you have a laptop, I asking if you were updating without being plugged in into the wall.

Nope, I have a desktop.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Syt on June 02, 2015, 02:51:51 AM
I have a Win8 laptop aside my big rig. I may test drive Win10 on that one first (though it never properly updated to Win8.1).
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on June 02, 2015, 03:05:18 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 02, 2015, 01:08:45 AM
I am very worried.  I am using Windows 7 now.  Will it automatically install Windows 10?  If so, I need to find a way to prevent it before it happens.  Any ideas for the computer illiterate?

Yes it will, YOUR WORLD WILL BURN
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Norgy on June 02, 2015, 04:19:03 AM
You have to actually do something to install Win 10, Mono. Relax.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: derspiess on June 02, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 01, 2015, 07:31:19 AM
I believe the offer is good for up to one year after release of Win10? I will hold off for a few months (though by that time I might have a new PC, anyways).

That means you get it for free for a year after Win10 is released, and after that point you gotta start paying for it, right?

I'll probably stick with 8.1 for now.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on June 02, 2015, 09:14:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 02, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 01, 2015, 07:31:19 AM
I believe the offer is good for up to one year after release of Win10? I will hold off for a few months (though by that time I might have a new PC, anyways).

That means you get it for free for a year after Win10 is released, and after that point you gotta start paying for it, right?

I'll probably stick with 8.1 for now.

From what I understand: you can claim your free copy for a year, but once you do you'll keep it for free forever.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Syt on June 02, 2015, 09:20:37 AM
Quote from: Liep on June 02, 2015, 09:14:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 02, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 01, 2015, 07:31:19 AM
I believe the offer is good for up to one year after release of Win10? I will hold off for a few months (though by that time I might have a new PC, anyways).

That means you get it for free for a year after Win10 is released, and after that point you gotta start paying for it, right?

I'll probably stick with 8.1 for now.

From what I understand: you can claim your free copy for a year, but once you do you'll keep it for free forever.

... on that machine. But yeah, completely free if you pick it up within one year after release.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 02, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
Hmm.  So my laptop will be in good shape.  My desktop, not so much.  The copy of Windows 7 on it isn't exactly genuine (:blush:); it was a last-ditch effort to not blow $150+ when I was having driver problems with Ubuntu (which then turned out to be a faulty motherboard).
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on June 03, 2015, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Liep on June 02, 2015, 09:14:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 02, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 01, 2015, 07:31:19 AM
I believe the offer is good for up to one year after release of Win10? I will hold off for a few months (though by that time I might have a new PC, anyways).

That means you get it for free for a year after Win10 is released, and after that point you gotta start paying for it, right?

I'll probably stick with 8.1 for now.

From what I understand: you can claim your free copy for a year, but once you do you'll keep it for free forever.
No.  At some point, they will charge you a fixed price per year to receive updates. they haven't specified how long you can keep Windows 10 for free.  It will always work, it will simply not be updated.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on June 03, 2015, 08:44:18 AM
The day Windows 10+1 comes out. Microsoft doesn't want to continue supporting multiple version of the OS.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Norgy on June 06, 2015, 03:54:53 PM
QuoteFeature deprecation section

If you have Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8 Pro with Media Center, or Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center and you install Windows 10, Windows Media Center will be removed.
Watching DVDs requires separate playback software
Windows 7 desktop gadgets will be removed as part of installing Windows 10.
Windows 10 Home users will have updates from Windows Update automatically available. Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise users will have the ability to defer updates.
Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the "Microsoft Solitaire Collection" and "Microsoft Minesweeper."

If you have a USB floppy drive, you will need to download the latest driver from Windows Update or from the manufacturer's website.
If you have Windows Live Essentials installed on your system, the OneDrive application is removed and replaced with the inbox version of OneDrive.

No more gaming for Mono. :(
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on June 12, 2015, 12:28:43 AM
QuoteWatching DVDs requires separate playback software
Well that sucks. Back to windows xp it almost seems. That was a rather nice logical addition by 7.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on June 12, 2015, 07:09:48 AM
Just use VLC or CCCP, its what everyone does anyway.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on June 12, 2015, 08:45:25 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2015, 12:28:43 AM
QuoteWatching DVDs requires separate playback software
Well that sucks. Back to windows xp it almost seems. That was a rather nice logical addition by 7.
VLC
Media Player Classic (part of K-Lite codec pack)
SMplayer
and countless others that reads DVDs, Blu-Ray and videos.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on June 12, 2015, 09:39:59 AM
I'll admit I'm more confused by someone wanting to use Windows Media Center.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on June 12, 2015, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 12, 2015, 08:45:25 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2015, 12:28:43 AM
QuoteWatching DVDs requires separate playback software
Well that sucks. Back to windows xp it almost seems. That was a rather nice logical addition by 7.
VLC
Media Player Classic (part of K-Lite codec pack)
SMplayer
and countless others that reads DVDs, Blu-Ray and videos.
Will they still?
Sounds like the functionality is being removed.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2015, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2015, 12:28:43 AM
QuoteWatching DVDs requires separate playback software
Well that sucks. Back to windows xp it almost seems. That was a rather nice logical addition by 7.
Maybe it'll keep the antitrust dogs away.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on June 12, 2015, 07:51:30 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2015, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 12, 2015, 08:45:25 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2015, 12:28:43 AM
QuoteWatching DVDs requires separate playback software
Well that sucks. Back to windows xp it almost seems. That was a rather nice logical addition by 7.
VLC
Media Player Classic (part of K-Lite codec pack)
SMplayer
and countless others that reads DVDs, Blu-Ray and videos.
Will they still?
Sounds like the functionality is being removed.

Read your own quote... :unsure:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on June 13, 2015, 10:19:20 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2015, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 12, 2015, 08:45:25 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2015, 12:28:43 AM
QuoteWatching DVDs requires separate playback software
Well that sucks. Back to windows xp it almost seems. That was a rather nice logical addition by 7.
VLC
Media Player Classic (part of K-Lite codec pack)
SMplayer
and countless others that reads DVDs, Blu-Ray and videos.
Will they still?
Sounds like the functionality is being removed.
Yes of course.  The functionaly is being removed from Windows, not from 3rd party softwares.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Solmyr on July 05, 2015, 10:51:59 AM
So, should I get it now or wait?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 05, 2015, 09:18:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2015, 07:48:50 PM
Maybe it'll keep the antitrust dogs away.

Quite possibly.  An antipiracy crackdown scare was one of the reasons DVD decoder codecs were deliberately removed from EU versions of Windows XP.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Syt on July 28, 2015, 08:26:15 AM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/28/windows-10-wifi-sharing/

QuoteWindows 10 Is Quietly Sharing Your WiFi Password

It wouldn't be a new version of Windows without at least a few entirely bewildering decisions on Microsoft's part, but this one's a high speed collision of face and palm even by the standards of the company behind Windows 8. In a nutshell, there's this feature in Windows 10 which will automatically share your wifi passwords with any and all Outlook, Skype and Facebook contacts who also use Win 10. Or, were they to manually enter your password into their Win 10 device, it would by default be treated as 'their' network and shared with their contacts. In other words, be vigilant – otherwise you'll end up with Kevin Bacon using your internet connection whenever he wardrives past your house.

I can entirely understand why someone thought this feature, known as WiFI Sense, was a good idea. How many times you done that awkward dance where you go to a friend's house and want to use their wifi, so he's upstairs with the router, trying to bend the cable further than it will go so he can see the sticker on the back, and shouting "X94 no sorry X49″ down to you, then it takes twelve goes and you still don't get anywhere?

WiFI Sense is intended to take the pain out of this: you go to your mate's house and your Windows 10 laptop/tablet immediately hops online because the password's been shared via MS' servers. Your password won't be shown to anyone – visitors' PCs are invisibly sent it automatically, wreathed in encryption. Also, the only thing they get automatically is internet access: you'll have to consciously intervene if you want them to have access to other devices and folders on the network too. In theory.

In theory, lovely. In practice – Microsoft have, somewhere, an enormous database full of people's passwords. Sure it's encrypted, but recent history shows that this isn't the impediment to hackers that one would hope. Possibly even more worrying is that, in its current form, WiFI Sense offers no fine control over who passwords are shared with. So if you click the Facebook share option, it goes to everyone you have on Facebook. So that annoying guy you accepted the invite from because you didn't want to upset him might in turn, unknowingly or otherwise, wind up sharing your password with his contacts from /r/makingpeoplesliveshellisfunnylol.

WiFi Sense doesn't share your password with friends of friends, so it's not going to be passed infinitely around the globe. However, if a visitor manually enters your password into their Windows 10 PC – maybe because you told them, maybe because they secretly wrote it down while you were having a wee – that will then be shared with their Facebook, Outlook and Sype contacts unless they've expressly said otherwise. This means that, abstractly, perfect strangers will have access to your network. Manually entering WiFi password is and will likely remain the default means of sharing networks for the forseeable, so this is hardly an unlikely scenario. Granted, said strangers finding your address – or even knowing to – is less plausible, but it does mean your password might end up out there on any number of unknown computers, which is an uncomfortable thought given the relative regularity with which big firms get hacked these days.

There's also some handwringing about this system giving Microsoft some degree of access to your Facebook contacts, which isn't info everyone wants other large corporations to have.

Insult to theoretical injury, Microsoft don't exactly go out of their way to tell you that they're doing this, so if you agree to Express Settings when installing or updating to Windows 10, WiFI sense is silently turned on for you. Realistically, the risks are small and yet to be proven, but this shouldn't be something we all unknowingly agree to, or something that only tech-savvy PC users are aware of or understand.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rockpapershotgun.com%2Fimages%2F15%2Fjul%2Fwifi2.jpg&hash=5684eef56f828b6c16ffb714d4053ee92853e28c)

How To Turn Wifi Sense Off

Basically, you should probably turn WiFI Sense off until you're sure you're 100% comfortable with it, or an update with more granular settings is released. To do that, go to Settings – Network & Internet – Manage WiFi Settings and turn off as much as concerns you. You can either wholesale block WiFi Sense, which means you won't automatically connect to chums' networks yourself, or just prevent Windows 10 from sharing your own networks with others. There's also an option to automatically connect to suggested open networks, while also strikes me as something which could be abused were anyone to work out how to hack Microsoft.

What that won't stop is friends who do have WiFi Sense turned on from sharing your password with the various thieves and murderers in their own Facebook contacts in the event they manually entered it into their PC. There is a convoluted means of preventing this, but it's ridiculous that Microsoft don't offer an option within Windows 10's own WiFI Sense settings, to be honest. Let's hope there'll be an update to tighten up controls.

Here's what you need to do for now, anyway: add '_optout' to the end of your wifi network's SSID/name. You'll need to fiddle with your router settings for that, so refer to its manual if you don't know how. Once that's done, your friends' Windows 10 devices won't then share your network on with anyone else, regardless of WiFI Sense settings. You can also request that they uncheck the 'Share network with my contacts' box when they're entering your password, but that requires both memory and trust.

Conversely, this official FAQ will tell you how to use WiFi Sense if all this sounds jolly hockeysticks to you.

Of course, Windows 10 isn't actually released until tomorrow, so all is subject to change. However, the build available to anyone via Windows Insider is the one released to manufacturers, so WiFi Sense in its current form is a finished feature rather than a buggy one. We'll just have to see if Microsoft update it as a result of the current web-wide palaver.

Should be a fun feature in Germany where sharing/open WiFi is wrought with problems: if someone uses your WiFi and does something illegal (e.g. download music), the owner of the WiFi connection is held responsible unless the real perp can be identified.

Even if he can prove he wasn't home he will be held responsible if he didn't take measures to protect his WiFi network from misuse by outsiders (e.g. left the default password on his router unchanged, as in a recent case where someone used a guy's WiFi for file sharing while the dude was on vacation).
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: lustindarkness on July 28, 2015, 04:21:26 PM
Any news on this? Any problems? Sorry, had not had time to even browse languish today. :(
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Norgy on July 29, 2015, 05:20:26 AM
BIOS updates out for Win 10.

http://www.maximumpc.com/windows-10-graphics-cards-and-motherboard-drivers-updating/

Hold me, I am scared of BSOD now.  :cry:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 29, 2015, 10:56:07 AM
My desktop is updating now.  :ph34r: 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: ulmont on July 29, 2015, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on July 28, 2015, 04:21:26 PM
Any news on this? Any problems? Sorry, had not had time to even browse languish today. :(


https://twitter.com/jonathantimar/status/626269345908285441
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 29, 2015, 11:40:35 AM
Meh.  Seems to be fine.  I'm not doing a lot of "heavy" testing or anything, just essentially working from home, but I can say Outlook and Junos Pulse work.  Also Chrome.  Apparently I can still post, assuming this, you know, posts.

The new IE, whatever it's called, looks....basic.  As predicted, the Start Menu is just the Start Screen from 8/8.1 smashed against a menu that pops up.  It can be expanded to show all of your little app squares at once (taking up a bunch of the screen), or you can just scroll through them.  You can still right click on the start button for stuff like the control panel, etc. 

Seems just as fast as 8/8.1. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on July 29, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
Apparently The Logitech updater is killing it. Also a Nvidia version was doing it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on July 29, 2015, 12:09:01 PM
So should wait then?


I know NVidia recently updated my drivers.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: lustindarkness on July 29, 2015, 12:29:14 PM
I think I will stay away for a few days, I can't risk losing the ability to log on to all the different Navy systems each with a different security setting <_<.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on July 29, 2015, 01:11:03 PM
This post is coming from inside Windows 10.

First impression: it seems very fast.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on July 29, 2015, 01:13:05 PM
Trying their new browser.


ArghhH!!!1 Ads. Ads everywhere. :bleeding:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on July 29, 2015, 01:41:58 PM
2nd impression: So goddamn many ads and "top sites". No, msn.com isn't my top site, never has been, never will be. FUCK OFF.

Chrome, sweet Chrome!

UPDATE: Even had to switch to Chrome before being able to post this. Edge continually gave me Session time out errors. :lol:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on July 29, 2015, 01:48:27 PM
3rd impression: errors to the left, errors to the right! Windows programmes keep shutting down, the Store is basically useless (nothing downloads), mouse pointer keeps going into "loading" mode for no apparent reason.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 29, 2015, 02:01:52 PM
Your install might be screwed up.  I went from 8.1 Pro > 10 Pro with the standard install window thing and haven't had any problems at all.  An app I randomly chose from the store (TuneIn radio) just downloaded and installed and seems to run okay streaming a local radio station.  My bookmark folders that I imported to newIE are all out of order, which is irritating, but I can post using it, apparently.  The icons at the top feel, along with pretty much everything else up there, like theyre too big though.  Comparing it to Chrome on the identical monitor next to it, all of the Chrome shit at the top (tabs, address bar and bookmark bar) take up the same amount of space as just the tab and address bar of new browser.  The bookmarks bar is a complete line lower.  Need to see if I can change that somewhere in the stupid looking settings menus. 

I did notice earlier that I don't seem to be able to add a different search provider (default is, of course, Bing).  It goes to the page to do it but the options are greyed out. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on July 29, 2015, 02:08:22 PM
Aye, that's another thing. The settings tabs are really acting up.

Regarding the Store error, Google tells me I'm not alone and it's probably a server overload error.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 29, 2015, 02:10:51 PM
I wonder if you can run some sort of repair on your installation and see if some of those issues are resolved without redoing the whole thing.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 29, 2015, 03:02:33 PM
Strange thing:  The volume control seems to think this radio station that I muted and forgot was running is Even Flow by Pearl Jam (e: it's 1200 AM, the main local talk radio station that...isn't...Pearl Jam).   :hmm:  I guess I have that on this drive somewhere.  I didnt think I had transferred my music yet, but I guess I did.  Or something?

Changing it to other local stations, it seems to work correctly, either showing the radio station name or the song currently playing, but when I go back to WOAI which is apparently endless commercials, it says it's Pearl Jam.  :lol:  Album art and everything.  Well, Rearviewmirror, not Ten. Lolz 760 The Ticket (Sports Radio) is Dr. Feelgood.  Must be something with the talk radio stations.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Syt on July 30, 2015, 04:01:04 AM
Solitaire and Minesweeper are now AdWare, unless you pay for a subscription: http://www.pcgamer.com/windows-10-solitaire-requires-a-subscription-to-remove-ads/
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on July 30, 2015, 06:00:36 AM
Ah, the world we live in.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monoriu on July 30, 2015, 06:12:25 AM
I'll do everything in my power to stop my computer from upgrading itself to Windows 10. 

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on July 30, 2015, 06:15:00 AM
Got curious about the new Solitaire. It took 2 minutes to open up the programme and agree to various privacy thingies, log on to xbox, more privacy things.

Fired up a game of FreeCell and didn't see any ads until the end. The winning display is worse than usual and the game itself looks like something that should've died with Windows ME.

But I haven't played solitaire games on windows since I got my ipad, so I guess I don't really care.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 30, 2015, 08:51:58 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on July 30, 2015, 06:12:25 AM
I'll do everything in my power to stop my computer from upgrading itself to Windows 10.

You don't have to do anything. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 30, 2015, 11:02:38 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 29, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
Apparently The Logitech updater is killing it. Also a Nvidia version was doing it.

Might be the root of my error last night.  I think I am going to try upgrading my Win8.1 VM first.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Scipio on July 30, 2015, 01:55:29 PM
This thing is slicker than pig shit. And damn, is it fast.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 30, 2015, 03:38:46 PM
My laptop's compatible (my Win 7 machine never popped a reservation notice, surprise, surprise), but I'm still waiting on the download to be ready.  Feeling too lazy to deal with the ISO download route or the other hacky way I've seen to skip the queue.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 30, 2015, 04:09:48 PM
Thought of installing it on the office computer, now that I got everything working.

Quote
Known Issues:​

    ​[424127] The Firefox browser may crash while opening multiple tabs (2 or more)
        Disabling hardware acceleration or opening multiple windows instead of multiple tabs is a temporary workaround solution
    [423635] A Blue Screen error may be observed with some Intel+AMD configurations on driver installation. As a workaround, please update your drivers using Windows update.
    ​​[423536] F1™ 2015 may experience poor AMD Crossfire™ scaling
    [423976] GTA V may crash on extended gameplay on some AMD Radeon™ R9 300 series products
    [423982] GRID: Autosport™ and Batman™: Arkham Knight may not launch on some Intel+AMD configurations
    [423651] Applying Video Quality (VQ) settings while playing Flash/HTML5 content may result in screen flicker
    [420370] The Frame Rate option is erroneously displayed in the AMD Catalyst™ Control Center Performance Tab for systems with Intel processors and AMD GPUs.
    [423656] A Blue Screen error may be encountered on some AMD Radeon™ R9 300 series products if AMD Crossfire™ is enabled/disabled while BluRay or DVD playback is in progress
    [423520] AMD Dual Graphics may not be available on some AMD A10-5750M-equipped laptops
    [423824] Unable to create an SLS in Eyefinity if a 5K display is part of the SLS.
    [423759] Fill SLS mode will not apply when 2560x1600 resolution and 2560x1440 resolution displays are used
    [423550] VSR mode may be erroneously displayed on devices that do not support the feature
    [423378] Dirt Rally™ may show corruption in game textures after installing the V500 game update
    [423969] System may hang while running the 3D Mark 2011 benchmark in a loop on some AMD Radeon™ R9 200 series products.
    [422748] Battlefield Hardline may experience stuttering during game play
    [422806] Battlefield Hardline may crash on pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del while running in Mantle mode
    ​[423311] A TDR error may be experienced when running the Windows Metro camera application in a SLS configuration
    [422944] Fire in Total War™ : Attila may experience corruption when in AMD CrossFire™ mode
    [422291] Battlefield 4 triggers TDR and crash when running in AMD Mantle mode
    [421719] Flickering and intermittent display blanking out with LG31MU97 if resolution is set above 1920x1080
    [422674] Corruption may occur in Dirt Rally™ with CMAA enabled with Portrait SLS and AMD CrossFire™ mode enabled
    [421388] AMD Radeon™ R9 390 Series may experience screen corruption in 3Dmark11 "Deep Sea" Demo
    [422623] Rage: In game cinematic may stutter when quad AMD Crossfire™ mode is enabled
    ​[421110] The Witcher® 3: Wild Hunt - Corruption may be observed when AA is enabled in AMD Crossfire™ mode

the list is way too long for my tastes, even if only the first item concerns me.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Scipio on July 30, 2015, 08:32:20 PM
Firefox sucks, IMHO. Mostly because my ex-wife preferred it over Chrome based on no evidence whatsoever.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 12:42:32 AM
I still prefer FF to Chrome.  I really don't like that minimalist approach.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 12:43:53 AM
Downloading Win8.1 currently.  Found a way to install it directly, without going through Win8.

Then I'll flush Linux Mint on the HTPC and use Win10, until the Linux community decides that wireless adapters are a thing of this century, worth having decent drivers for under an OS.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 01:15:53 AM
Ok, so, Win10 might not play nice for a clean install in the future, if you ever change hardware.

Anyhow, if you need to install Windows 8, like me, you can skip a step and go directly to Win8.1 before Win10:
http://www.howtogeek.com/187525/how-to-perform-a-clean-install-of-windows-8.1-with-a-windows-8-key/
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Agelastus on July 31, 2015, 09:41:27 AM
My laptop with the terrible Windows 8.1 is now upgraded to Windows 10.

Tried "Edge" - reverted to my old browser after less than five minutes. Far too minimalist.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 10:22:16 AM
Well, Windows 10 killed my HTPC, it seems.  1 long beep, 2 short beep.  It seems to integrated video card is no longer working.
All of this started this morning when the screen turned black during Win10 install and refused to get back on while in Windows install.
Since then, I've been unable to reinstall any version of Windows.

Fuck it.  Both computers go to the shop at 12:00.

Did I tell you about my home, gaming PC wich died yesterday night?

I should have stayed working in the office. FUck that shit.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:29:10 AM
It's the Intel+AMD config not working for ya.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Duque de Bragança on July 31, 2015, 10:31:04 AM
So I am going to wait a bit more before installing Windows 10 on my Bootcamp partition.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 10:35:40 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:29:10 AM
It's the Intel+AMD config not working for ya.
Sound card stopped working.  Then trying to remove it and replace it, the computer would no longer reboot after that.
I thought of the troublesome switch, but even manually, on the board, it won't start.

But the HTPC that also died on me is full Intel.  Only iGPU video card.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 31, 2015, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.

Yeah that's weird.  My wife's copy hasn't showed up either.  The little program still just says "Thanks For Reserving Your Copy!" or whatever.  Or at least it did this morning before I left.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.
you can download the ISO and install it once you've reserved your copy.  I'm not touching this for now.

Just went to the computer shop, he told me it was a loose cable inside.  The HTPC worked fine there.  Come back here, can't start it anymore.
1 long beep, 3 short.
It's either a video card problem (wich is integrated on the Intel CPU) or a ram problem.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on July 31, 2015, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 31, 2015, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.

Yeah that's weird.  My wife's copy hasn't showed up either.  The little program still just says "Thanks For Reserving Your Copy!" or whatever.  Or at least it did this morning before I left.

Have you checked your Windows Update? Mine showed an upgrade failure so I had to do this to restart it:

Quote1. Go into "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and delete everything in that folder. (If you're unable to complete this step, look at "edit 5" down below)
2. Now, run the command prompt as an administrator. Type in "wuauclt.exe /updatenow".
3. Go to your Control Panel > Windows Update and your Windows 10 should start re-downloading from scratch, hopefully without flaws this time.

Worked perfectly after this.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Agelastus on July 31, 2015, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 31, 2015, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.

Yeah that's weird.  My wife's copy hasn't showed up either.  The little program still just says "Thanks For Reserving Your Copy!" or whatever.  Or at least it did this morning before I left.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/2/8883325/windows-10-will-roll-out-in-waves

Windows 10 comes out on July 29th, but you might have to wait until later to get it. Microsoft said today that it would be rolling out Windows 10 in waves, "slowly scaling up" the rollout as it sees how things are going. The intention seems to be playing it safe and making sure that Windows 10 is getting a good response and running smoothly across the millions of different systems out there. Microsoft may even issue updates to Windows 10 between its July 29th release date and the time that some early adopters are actually able to download it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 31, 2015, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.
you can download the ISO and install it once you've reserved your copy.  I'm not touching this for now.

Just went to the computer shop, he told me it was a loose cable inside.  The HTPC worked fine there.  Come back here, can't start it anymore.
1 long beep, 3 short.
It's either a video card problem (wich is integrated on the Intel CPU) or a ram problem.

In my experience, behavior that erratic is almost always a RAM problem.  Are all your RAM sticks the same or did you do them in pairs?

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 31, 2015, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: Liep on July 31, 2015, 01:09:09 PM
Have you checked your Windows Update? Mine showed an upgrade failure so I had to do this to restart it:

Quote1. Go into "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and delete everything in that folder. (If you're unable to complete this step, look at "edit 5" down below)
2. Now, run the command prompt as an administrator. Type in "wuauclt.exe /updatenow".
3. Go to your Control Panel > Windows Update and your Windows 10 should start re-downloading from scratch, hopefully without flaws this time.

Worked perfectly after this.

Eh.  I don't know what she has tried. Her laptop didn't have the upgrade available last night either, now that I think of it.  Those machines are probably just scheduled to get it in a later group. 

I didn't have to do anything with mine.  Just clicked the little windows logo in the tray and it was ready to go.  Installed it, ran Windows update and updated the AMD GFX drivers, and it seems to be good to go.  I still haven't tried any games with it though. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 01:29:18 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 31, 2015, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.
you can download the ISO and install it once you've reserved your copy.  I'm not touching this for now.

Just went to the computer shop, he told me it was a loose cable inside.  The HTPC worked fine there.  Come back here, can't start it anymore.
1 long beep, 3 short.
It's either a video card problem (wich is integrated on the Intel CPU) or a ram problem.

In my experience, behavior that erratic is almost always a RAM problem.  Are all your RAM sticks the same or did you do them in pairs?


1 single 8gb ram stick.  the tech is here, he seems baffled.  I'm not touching hardware.  Besides, I can't even get a finger inside that small case.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 31, 2015, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.
you can download the ISO and install it once you've reserved your copy.  I'm not touching this for now.

Just went to the computer shop, he told me it was a loose cable inside.  The HTPC worked fine there.  Come back here, can't start it anymore.
1 long beep, 3 short.
It's either a video card problem (wich is integrated on the Intel CPU) or a ram problem.

In my experience, behavior that erratic is almost always a RAM problem.  Are all your RAM sticks the same or did you do them in pairs?


looks like we have a winner :)
defective DRAM module, as it looks so far.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 31, 2015, 01:51:42 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
looks like we have a winner :)
defective DRAM module, as it looks so far.

Not surprising.  As a tech, RAM was a nightmare for me, since when it malfunctions, things go so erratically that it's impossible to pin down on symptoms alone.  Eventually, I learned to just check the RAM sticks first, even if I didn't think it was a RAM problem, because it can do such weird things that it looks like other problems, like for example, a GPU failure.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 31, 2015, 01:51:42 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
looks like we have a winner :)
defective DRAM module, as it looks so far.

Not surprising.  As a tech, RAM was a nightmare for me, since when it malfunctions, things go so erratically that it's impossible to pin down on symptoms alone.  Eventually, I learned to just check the RAM sticks first, even if I didn't think it was a RAM problem, because it can do such weird things that it looks like other problems, like for example, a GPU failure.
I should have told the tech to change the ram module when I went to the shop.  I thought about it, but then it was working...

I didn't experience RAM problems in years, ever since I stopped buying cheap ram.  But for this kit, I went with the absolute lowest cost.  Next time, G.skill ram :)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Caliga on July 31, 2015, 08:08:17 PM
I got tired of waiting so I force installed it.  Upgrade running now.... meanwhile it's Miller time in the hot tub  :cool:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Caliga on July 31, 2015, 08:55:43 PM
Upgrade went perfectly. :showoff:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 11:17:53 PM
Tips for the privacy minded:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/windows-10/
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Tonitrus on July 31, 2015, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on July 30, 2015, 06:12:25 AM
I'll do everything in my power to stop my computer from upgrading itself to Windows 10.

(https://i.imgflip.com/n02g9.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 01, 2015, 09:09:59 AM
Quote from: Syt on July 28, 2015, 08:26:15 AM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/28/windows-10-wifi-sharing/


more on this:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-windows-10s-wi-fi-sense-feature-is-not-a-security-risk/

You have to manually select wich contact get access to your wifi.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on August 01, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
When I get around to installing this, will it delete everything on my computer (game save files, documents, etc?)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Agelastus on August 01, 2015, 09:37:02 AM
Quote from: Josephus on August 01, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
When I get around to installing this, will it delete everything on my computer (game save files, documents, etc?)

All your files will still be there; it doesn't overwrite them.

-----------

I do seem to have a problem though - my Laptop that I upgraded to Windows 10 no longer shuts down properly. The screen goes off and most of the noise dies, but the power light stays on and I can hear what I think is one of the fans. If I press down the power button to forcibly shut it down at this point when I reboot it doesn't say anything about an improper shutdown having occurred.

Quick research suggests it "might" relate to the boot order in the BIOS which I don't particularly want to tamper with. I shall have to research this some more... :hmm:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monoriu on August 01, 2015, 10:18:07 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 31, 2015, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on July 30, 2015, 06:12:25 AM
I'll do everything in my power to stop my computer from upgrading itself to Windows 10.

(https://i.imgflip.com/n02g9.jpg)

I want Bill Gates to build Skynet.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on August 01, 2015, 10:20:10 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on August 01, 2015, 09:37:02 AM
Quote from: Josephus on August 01, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
When I get around to installing this, will it delete everything on my computer (game save files, documents, etc?)

All your files will still be there; it doesn't overwrite them.

This.  Part of the configuration checker is to look at what programs you've got installed- if you've got unknown or incompatible programs, it should (in theory) prevent you from doing the live update and recommend you do a clean install and replace programs as you go.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Agelastus on August 01, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
 :mad:

"Bog" standard Windows Photo Viewer no longer reads how the folder is set up (in this case, date modified) - instead it persists in displaying the next alphabetically named image when you press the "next" button.

Is anyone else having this issue - I can't decide if this is a bug with the installation or yet another example of Microsoft's "My Way or the High Way" approach. :glare:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2015, 04:44:00 PM
I said "bog standard" one day and then felt that I had let myself down. :angry: :blush:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Agelastus on August 01, 2015, 05:16:39 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2015, 04:44:00 PM
I said "bog standard" one day and then felt that I had let myself down. :angry: :blush:

"bog standard" or "bog, standard"?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2015, 08:17:56 PM
The former
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2015, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 31, 2015, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 31, 2015, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.
you can download the ISO and install it once you've reserved your copy.  I'm not touching this for now.

Just went to the computer shop, he told me it was a loose cable inside.  The HTPC worked fine there.  Come back here, can't start it anymore.
1 long beep, 3 short.
It's either a video card problem (wich is integrated on the Intel CPU) or a ram problem.

In my experience, behavior that erratic is almost always a RAM problem.  Are all your RAM sticks the same or did you do them in pairs?


looks like we have a winner :)
defective DRAM module, as it looks so far.

Vipes says upgrading is harmless take 2?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on August 01, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
Quote from: Liep on July 31, 2015, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 31, 2015, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
:hmm:

You are on your own, my copy still hasn't showed up.

Yeah that's weird.  My wife's copy hasn't showed up either.  The little program still just says "Thanks For Reserving Your Copy!" or whatever.  Or at least it did this morning before I left.


Have you checked your Windows Update? Mine showed an upgrade failure so I had to do this to restart it:

Quote1. Go into "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and delete everything in that folder. (If you're unable to complete this step, look at "edit 5" down below)
2. Now, run the command prompt as an administrator. Type in "wuauclt.exe /updatenow".
3. Go to your Control Panel > Windows Update and your Windows 10 should start re-downloading from scratch, hopefully without flaws this time.

Worked perfectly after this.


Yep that was my issue.

I am all upgraded now.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: katmai on August 01, 2015, 09:41:03 PM
From all the issues in the thread, happy i am still waiting on upgrade notice.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monoriu on August 01, 2015, 10:00:07 PM
Quote from: katmai on August 01, 2015, 09:41:03 PM
From all the issues in the thread, happy i am still waiting on upgrade notice.

Katmai is wise :yes:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on August 01, 2015, 10:02:37 PM
To be fair, that's just Viper.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 02, 2015, 12:21:09 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2015, 08:18:56 PM
Vipes says upgrading is harmless take 2?
just make sure there's no faulty hardware first... :glare:

And if you aren't confident in fixing any problems by yourself, wait 'til your Windows notify you that Win10 upgrade is ready.  It might be there are some bugs in Windows, or some drivers that will need an updage before Win10 is ready to install. 

There's no rush.  It boots faster than Win8.1, but so far, I don't see much of a difference elsewhere.  Granted, it was only the HTPC, not the gaming machine.  And I'm not sure I want to upgrade the office computers just yet...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on August 02, 2015, 09:02:14 PM
The new Film & TV app is pretty good. Even decoded a .mp4 file by default.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 02, 2015, 10:05:53 PM
no HDMI sound on the HTPC

:bleeding: :ultra:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on August 03, 2015, 02:29:17 AM
Great, everyday now my computer flashes up to let me know I should switch to 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 03, 2015, 09:58:57 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 03, 2015, 02:29:17 AM
Great, everyday now my computer flashes up to let me know I should switch to 10.
wait 3 more months.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on August 03, 2015, 10:09:48 AM
Considering that Garbon's computer failed an update to Windows 8.1 before. Don't ever update it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Caliga on August 03, 2015, 10:54:36 AM
Working fine for me.  I did manually update all of my stuff to Win 10 drivers if they were available, though.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on August 03, 2015, 12:59:43 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 03, 2015, 10:09:48 AM
Considering that Garbon's computer failed an update to Windows 8.1 before. Don't ever update it.

Right? That's what I'm thinking. That or when I am having a very boring week and want to take another run at 8.1...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 03, 2015, 11:00:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 02, 2015, 10:05:53 PM
no HDMI sound on the HTPC

:bleeding: :ultra:
finally. fixed it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Syt on August 04, 2015, 05:07:01 AM
I know it's Slate, but this article nevertheless seems to be a good summary on how to set your system privacy to something more akin to Win7 or 8:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 04, 2015, 09:58:36 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 04, 2015, 05:07:01 AM
I know it's Slate, but this article nevertheless seems to be a good summary on how to set your system privacy to something more akin to Win7 or 8:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html

Use a Local Account

The drawback is you can't install any apps from the store unless you logged in (but you can access pre-installed apps) and you can't access Onedrive.  Otherwise, it seems a good move to do.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Agelastus on August 04, 2015, 11:44:22 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 04, 2015, 05:07:01 AM
I know it's Slate, but this article nevertheless seems to be a good summary on how to set your system privacy to something more akin to Win7 or 8:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html

A couple more things to click to off then. I was naïve to think simply doing a custom setup and clicking most of it to off would suffice. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 04, 2015, 02:56:47 PM
I updated my work laptop. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on August 05, 2015, 06:51:43 AM
My Windows 10 system detected automatically my Xbox 360. Now I can right click any movie/music files and choose Cast to device & it'll play on the 360. Neat feature.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 05, 2015, 10:58:42 AM
App to limit Windows 10 tracking (http://www.zdnet.com/article/want-to-limit-windows-10-tracking-there-is-an-app-for-that/)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: katmai on August 05, 2015, 11:39:44 PM
My upgrade is available!! :o
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Syt on August 06, 2015, 12:47:21 AM
Mine has been for a couple of days, but I think I'll let the release bake for a few more months.

Though I consider getting a new machine at the end of the year, anyways, so it might be moot.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: katmai on August 06, 2015, 01:18:06 AM
I pulled the trigger and most all seems okay,except some deleted old game files from an old version of windows. needs have to re download swtor game client.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 07, 2015, 10:39:13 AM
I had to re-install all my programs.  ALL OF THE PROGRAMS.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 07, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
Just stuck the enterprise version on my shitty work computer.  Looking for driver updates for the built in GFX, but seems alright so far.  Smooth update from 8.1 from an iso on a shared drive.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 13, 2015, 09:47:10 AM
I ended up having weird driver problems on my home machine that started causing bluescreens, so I just wiped and reinstalled Win 10 on my small Windows drive.  There were more setup options on a full install vs. an upgrade.

No problems on the work machine so far.   Old Core 2 Duo E8400 (which isn't a bad processor at all) with 4GBs of RAM pulled out of another machine, etc.  I did acquire and shove an SSD in here which helps a helluva lot vs the HDD that was in there and seemed to be failing, which reminds me:  I should put it in the mounting bracket so it isn't just hanging in there.  :P

E:  The different notification sounds still throw me off a little.  Heh. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 13, 2015, 02:47:22 PM
Xbox one to Win10 streaming: hidden very high settings (http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/08/13/xbox-one-to-windows-10-streaming-features-hidden-very-high-setting)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Warspite on August 14, 2015, 04:31:38 AM
I'm enjoying it. It's very shiny.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: The Brain on August 19, 2015, 06:08:37 AM
I am afeared, but maybe I shouldn't be? Computers keep bugging me about installing Win10.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Berkut on August 19, 2015, 10:09:23 AM
I've been using it for several days now.

Overall, I am very pleased. It is noticeably faster, and the implementation seems to be a lot more clean than W7.

I've gone back to using Chrome from MS Edge though - Edge is actually pretty great, but there are just a few little niggling details that annoy me enough that I don't want to use it quite yet...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 19, 2015, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 19, 2015, 06:08:37 AM
I am afeared, but maybe I shouldn't be? Computers keep bugging me about installing Win10.
Join the Darkside.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monoriu on August 20, 2015, 11:07:04 AM
Quote from: viper37 on August 19, 2015, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 19, 2015, 06:08:37 AM
I am afeared, but maybe I shouldn't be? Computers keep bugging me about installing Win10.
Join the Darkside.

I'll wait a few months. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mongers on August 20, 2015, 12:16:35 PM
I put this on a tablet, replacing 8.1, seems to be an improvement. Though I do need to turn off most of the data slurping functions.

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on August 22, 2015, 01:06:39 PM
Updated my laptop. Went pretty smoothly. Also the start screen made me realize for the first time since I got Windows in 1993 that that four-squared Windows logo is...a Window. Awesome

But what's the deal with Cortana? No workie in Canada
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on August 22, 2015, 07:48:51 PM
That's pretty much it. Cortana is US/UK for now.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on August 31, 2015, 06:42:47 PM
Since I upgraded, every now and then I hear a chime, but I've got no idea what it means :lol: It's not a new notification.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mongers on August 31, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: Josephus on August 31, 2015, 06:42:47 PM
Since I upgraded, every now and then I hear a chime, but I've got no idea what it means :lol: It's not a new notification.

Oh I heard that the other day and thought it was the doorbell.  :blush:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on August 31, 2015, 09:58:03 PM
Quote from: Josephus on August 31, 2015, 06:42:47 PM
Since I upgraded, every now and then I hear a chime, but I've got no idea what it means :lol: It's not a new notification.
never heard it.  Then again, I disabled all Windows sounds :P
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on September 01, 2015, 07:35:40 AM
You aren't the only one.

https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/3hd0bu/windows_10_making_a_random_chime/
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on September 01, 2015, 07:37:36 AM
Maybe it's marking the time?

People that don't disable windows sound are weird.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on September 01, 2015, 09:15:18 AM
If you use a M$ account, it's integrated with your e-mail.  Could be a sound for everytime you got mail, even in the spam folder?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 01, 2015, 09:30:09 AM
After I upgraded, it wouldn't let me adjust my screen resolution- but that just needed a restart. However, when I clicked on my Civ4 shortcut nothing happened. (Did this several times). Already annoyed by the screen resolution thing, I went ahead and reverted back to the old Windows.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on September 01, 2015, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 01, 2015, 09:15:18 AM
If you use a M$ account, it's integrated with your e-mail.  Could be a sound for everytime you got mail, even in the spam folder?

I don't use a M$ account, but have the mail app synched to my other email accounts (gmail, etc.). that might be it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Berkut on September 01, 2015, 05:23:56 PM
I bought a new wifi printer, and cannot seem to get it to work with Windows 10. Rather annoying.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Warspite on September 07, 2015, 11:34:16 AM
"M$"? What is this, 1996?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on September 10, 2015, 03:22:15 AM
My download keeps failing.
Meh.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on September 10, 2015, 08:59:19 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 10, 2015, 03:22:15 AM
My download keeps failing.
Meh.

If the download keeps failing, follow the wuauclt instructions.  That's what was going on with mine.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Pedrito on September 11, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
First, my pc did never suggest me to upgrade.
Then, when I decide to manually start the upgrade, the installation stops around 51% and remains there all night.
I force the reboot, and it reverts the installation back to the original Win7, and the upgrade suggestion vanishes.
thanks but no thanks, I'll remain with my perfectly satisfying Win7.

L.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on September 12, 2015, 08:50:21 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on September 11, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
First, my pc did never suggest me to upgrade.
Then, when I decide to manually start the upgrade, the installation stops around 51% and remains there all night.
I force the reboot, and it reverts the installation back to the original Win7, and the upgrade suggestion vanishes.
thanks but no thanks, I'll remain with my perfectly satisfying Win7.

L.

If it never prompted you to reserve the upgrade, it might be because you have one of the currently-incompatible systems.  Sorry to hear it was giving you so much trouble- hope they extend the free upgrade offer with all the systems needing brand new drivers rolled out before they can upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on September 21, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
So...how many people have upgraded?
I am curious but...I've been hearing quite a lot of bad stuff. My download finally worked so I am able to upgrade if I want :ph34r:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on September 21, 2015, 04:23:43 PM
As of a month ago it was on 75 million machines: http://fortune.com/2015/08/26/windows-10-installs/

It's working fine for me at home and work, although our KMS servers don't like it or something, so it still isn't activated here at work.  I don't seem to be losing functionality though, so whatevs. 

E:  My wife says it has shortened the battery life on her laptop by a bit vs Win 8.1 and  I've personally seen oddities with a Surface 3 (it would run down the battery in an hour-ish, even when it was supposed to be sleeping.  this may have been related to the image we used on it though, instead of Win 10 itself), so that might be a thing with some laptops/laptop type things. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on September 21, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 21, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
So...how many people have upgraded?
I am curious but...I've been hearing quite a lot of bad stuff. My download finally worked so I am able to upgrade if I want :ph34r:

Havent had any issues.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on September 22, 2015, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 21, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
So...how many people have upgraded?
I've upgraded two of my computers.  Well make it 3.  My step mother upgraded the laptop without asking me first, so I had to reinstall her games on the laptop.  Anyway, the HTPC is fine now, and my assistant's computer upgraded smoothly, no hiccups, no needed drivers afterward (except AMD drivers)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on September 22, 2015, 03:16:40 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 21, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
So...how many people have upgraded?
I am curious but...I've been hearing quite a lot of bad stuff. My download finally worked so I am able to upgrade if I want :ph34r:

Upgrade. The only difference I've really noticed is how much faster 10 is.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on September 22, 2015, 07:30:12 AM
Tyr, it depends on a couple of things.  If it's a laptop, absolutely upgrade- the power management in Windows 10 is miles better than that of Windows 8.  It also cuts the boot time significantly (I suspect Windows 10 loads services and processes the way I have WinPatrol set on my Win7 box- pushes the non-kernel processes to a 30-second delayed start queue- why Microsoft hasn't made this an out-of-the-box feature is beyond me).

If it's a desktop, personal preference.  On one hand, the UI is much easier to use than Windows 8, since it uses a Start menu again (on a laptop, it can be switched between that and "tablet mode", where it's a full-page Start screen).  On the other, it's heavily reliant on DirectX 12, which is still very, very buggy- so I might not recommend it yet for a gaming rig.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Barrister on September 22, 2015, 10:08:19 AM
So I downloaded Win 10 last night.  Had no experience with Win 8 before.

It's... okay.  I don't really like the flat look that's taken over both OS X and Windows, but that's well out of my hands.

One thing I didn't care for - when you hit the Start button, there are all these... tiles?  Thing is many of the tiles are for software I don't have and that MS apparently wants me to download or buy.  Any way for me to remove these, since this is mostly just a dedicated web surfing / gaming machine?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on September 22, 2015, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: Liep on September 22, 2015, 03:16:40 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 21, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
So...how many people have upgraded?
I am curious but...I've been hearing quite a lot of bad stuff. My download finally worked so I am able to upgrade if I want :ph34r:

Upgrade. The only difference I've really noticed is how much faster 10 is.

This sounds tempting to me... vs 7 or 8?


I've got a desktop. Currently on 7, never really tried 8 beyond playing around with a computer or two in shops.
As I say I'm curious to try windows 10 but I don't want to muff up my only personal machine. All my stuff is on there.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on September 22, 2015, 10:50:57 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 22, 2015, 10:08:19 AM
So I downloaded Win 10 last night.  Had no experience with Win 8 before.

It's... okay.  I don't really like the flat look that's taken over both OS X and Windows, but that's well out of my hands.

One thing I didn't care for - when you hit the Start button, there are all these... tiles?  Thing is many of the tiles are for software I don't have and that MS apparently wants me to download or buy.  Any way for me to remove these, since this is mostly just a dedicated web surfing / gaming machine?
right click on the tile, there should an option to uninstall the software or simply remove the icon.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: The Brain on October 15, 2015, 03:34:49 PM
I switched to Windows 10!

Everything seems norbal.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: lustindarkness on October 30, 2015, 09:57:45 AM
So, this weekend may be the one I may have time to do this. Should I?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Caliga on October 30, 2015, 10:16:09 AM
Yeah, Win 10 is great.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Alcibiades on October 30, 2015, 12:14:21 PM
Switched over this week, no issues.  Also looks pretty nice comparatively.  Will take a bit to get used to the UI, though.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on October 30, 2015, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 30, 2015, 09:57:45 AM
So, this weekend may be the one I may have time to do this. Should I?
yeah, you ain't losing anything :)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monoriu on October 31, 2015, 06:33:24 PM
QuoteMicrosoft to users: You'll download Windows 10, and you'll like it

Starting next year, Windows 10 will automatically download itself onto some computers

Oct 29, 2015 3:31 PM

Microsoft really wants people to get on the Windows 10 bandwagon, so much so that the company plans to start automatically downloading its new operating system to some users' computers next year.

In a new blog post, Microsoft Executive Vice President Terry Myerson said the company plans to push Windows 10 as a recommended update through Windows Update sometime next year, after rolling it out through the service as an optional update "soon." That means those PC users who have applied Microsoft's suggested update settings will automatically download the update when the company makes the switch. 



That's an aggressive move from Microsoft, especially given the outcry earlier this month after the company did the same thing accidentally. Users who've gotten the download will still be able to opt out before it's installed on the device, and they can roll back the upgrade for as long as 31 days after making the switch to the new OS, so that's some consolation. 

It's a particularly raw deal for people who are on metered Internet connections. Windows 8.1 users aren't in danger there, because that OS won't automatically download updates over a metered connection. But Windows 7 users will have to turn off automatic downloads of all recommended updates in order to avoid downloading multiple gigabytes worth of operating system.

All this is part of Microsoft's move to make Windows 10 more easily available. Starting today, people who reserve a copy of the new operating system will have it immediately downloaded to their devices rather than having to wait as they did in the OS's early days. 

Microsoft has said that it expects 1 billion devices to be running Windows 10 in three years, and it seems that this is a part of that strategy. What remains to be seen is how well users will take having an update they don't necessarily want pushed at them more aggressively. 

We are dead.  I need to figure out a way to stop the computer from auto-updating this  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: The Brain on November 01, 2015, 04:16:56 AM
Once I updated my first computer my other computers stopped telling me to update. What's the deal?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on November 01, 2015, 11:02:43 AM
You can force the update:
http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/

If you have an error code after the download, you need to edit a registry key.
- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade
- Create a DWORD (32bit) value "AllowOSUpgrade" and set it to 1.
- Exit control panel, restart windows update and it will work.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on November 01, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 31, 2015, 06:33:24 PM

We are dead.  I need to figure out a way to stop the computer from auto-updating this  :ph34r:
there is no way to stop progress.  It will consume you, it will devour your soul.  You must submit to your new masters now.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: lustindarkness on November 01, 2015, 11:50:57 AM
I'm downloading it right now,  if my laptop craps out on me,  I'll blame languish.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: lustindarkness on November 01, 2015, 01:17:25 PM
Well, it has not blown up in my face yet.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on November 01, 2015, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on November 01, 2015, 01:17:25 PM
Well, it has not blown up in my face yet.
You can use this app to disable tracking:
https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: lustindarkness on November 01, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 01, 2015, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on November 01, 2015, 01:17:25 PM
Well, it has not blown up in my face yet.
You can use this app to disable tracking:
https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases

Explain please, why would I need this?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on November 01, 2015, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on November 01, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 01, 2015, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on November 01, 2015, 01:17:25 PM
Well, it has not blown up in my face yet.
You can use this app to disable tracking:
https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases

Explain please, why would I need this?
If you are concerned about the information you may be leaking to Microsoft.  They don't use any information that could personally identify you, but they still track your on-line behavior for advertising purposes.  There are ways inside Windows to disable these, but I found this tool to be easier.

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on November 13, 2015, 07:37:24 PM
New Windows Update...apparently Canadians get Certina now. Me, not sure, Update been stuck on 10 per cent for 10 minutes  :mad:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mongers on November 13, 2015, 07:58:50 PM
I need to have a look at this tomorrow, I have it on a tablet but havent' had a play to assess it's utility.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on November 13, 2015, 11:09:58 PM
updated but can't get Cortana to work. Bitch gets stuck at the select language I understand part. I pick English (Canada) but can't see to go past that screen.

Oh well, back to Siri on my phone with her Australian accent
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on November 16, 2015, 01:09:33 AM
Quote from: Josephus on November 13, 2015, 11:09:58 PM
updated but can't get Cortana to work. Bitch gets stuck at the select language I understand part. I pick English (Canada) but can't see to go past that screen.

Oh well, back to Siri on my phone with her Australian accent
you may not be a true canadian in your speech.
Make sure to sing God Save the Queen every morning for Cortana to properly register your speech.
Also, don't forget to use metric and add a 'u' to every 'or'.
That should do the trick ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on November 26, 2015, 07:48:34 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 16, 2015, 01:09:33 AM
Quote from: Josephus on November 13, 2015, 11:09:58 PM
updated but can't get Cortana to work. Bitch gets stuck at the select language I understand part. I pick English (Canada) but can't see to go past that screen.

Oh well, back to Siri on my phone with her Australian accent
you may not be a true canadian in your speech.
Make sure to sing God Save the Queen every morning for Cortana to properly register your speech.
Also, don't forget to use metric and add a 'u' to every 'or'.
That should do the trick ;)

You're right, eh
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on January 06, 2016, 01:00:04 PM
Thinking in the next month that I'll buy an SSD and use that as my chance to make the switch. :ph34r:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on January 16, 2016, 09:58:42 AM
Latest Windows 10 update seems to have killed Windows Defender. :mad:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on January 16, 2016, 10:01:15 AM
I updated yesterday and I still have it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josephus on January 16, 2016, 12:22:31 PM
Two reboots seems to  have fixed it.  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on January 18, 2016, 03:33:52 AM
I don't know if it's windows or if it's a hardware problem. I fear it's the latter. Every now and then when loading Windows it just reads "A disk error occurred - Press ctrl-alt-del", when I do it usually starts up without problems the next time. But it's getting more frequently.

Do I need to think about backing up and buying a new SSD?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on January 18, 2016, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: Liep on January 18, 2016, 03:33:52 AM
Do I need to think about backing up and buying a new SSD?
Backing up, yes absolutely.  Buying a new one... wait a little longer.

Try Windows built in chkdsk feature first, to see if something can be found:
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/disk-error-checking-windows-8
It does not have much use for a SSD, but it will also check your other hard drive.

Then check the 3rd post here:
http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f217/run-chkdsk-on-ssd-794490.html
do as it says.

Even though it says "Disk error", it could be something else, like a memory (RAM error). 
try this:
http://www.howto-connect.com/windows-10-detect-ram-issues-with-windows-memory-diagnostic-tool/

If nothing reports any problem, then it could be something else entirely, or some random error that would be harder to check for.  There are more sophisticated tests you could run, that requires other free utilities, but you'll need to create a USB stick for these softwares.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on January 18, 2016, 06:29:19 PM
On ssds. .... I read they've a problem with limited writes.
Yet..... they're the place for virtual memory right?  A very write intensive thing....
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on January 18, 2016, 09:31:12 PM
Yes, that's the biggest trade off.

A simple solution, buy more ram & don't use virtual memory.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Liep on January 19, 2016, 04:25:49 AM
Quote from: viper37 on January 18, 2016, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: Liep on January 18, 2016, 03:33:52 AM
Do I need to think about backing up and buying a new SSD?
Backing up, yes absolutely.  Buying a new one... wait a little longer.

Try Windows built in chkdsk feature first, to see if something can be found:
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/disk-error-checking-windows-8
It does not have much use for a SSD, but it will also check your other hard drive.

Then check the 3rd post here:
http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f217/run-chkdsk-on-ssd-794490.html
do as it says.

Even though it says "Disk error", it could be something else, like a memory (RAM error). 
try this:
http://www.howto-connect.com/windows-10-detect-ram-issues-with-windows-memory-diagnostic-tool/

If nothing reports any problem, then it could be something else entirely, or some random error that would be harder to check for.  There are more sophisticated tests you could run, that requires other free utilities, but you'll need to create a USB stick for these softwares.

Thanks, tried those and they showed nothing.

I have all my documents and photos online so I guess it won't be a disaster if the drive quits eventually.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on January 19, 2016, 11:05:21 AM
could be a windows error, or a bios error.
Before rushing to the store for a new drive, I'd try the laster bios and the latest chipset/drive controller (usually the same) drivers.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on February 18, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
Upgraded.
My judgement - eww.
The start menu is badly designed. Doesn't work half as well.
What's worse is all the compatability issues. Can't sync my ipod anymore. Bah.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on February 19, 2016, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 18, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
Upgraded.
My judgement - eww.
The start menu is badly designed. Doesn't work half as well.
What's worse is all the compatability issues. Can't sync my ipod anymore. Bah.

Even with the latest version of iTunes?  Check your services and make sure "ipodsvc" is running- since iPods natively run a proprietary storage mode (most MP3 players just show up as USB mass storage, same as external hard drives), Windows can't push to them without that service translating.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on February 19, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
I can't even install the latest version  of iTunes.  Google seems to suggest it has big problems with 64 bit win 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Grey Fox on February 19, 2016, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 18, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
Upgraded.
My judgement - eww.
The start menu is badly designed. Doesn't work half as well.
What's worse is all the compatability issues. Can't sync my ipod anymore. Bah.

Microsoft wants you to stop using the start menu.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Arvoreen on February 19, 2016, 03:11:16 PM
Odd, I have the latest 64 bit iTunes on my Windows 10 box.  Works just fine with my iPad.

Not that the  upgrade was the smoothest ever....but 10 is light years better than 8/8.1 ever was.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on February 19, 2016, 04:46:28 PM
I don't have any problem with the start menu. I've pinned the programs that I use most and then only need to go into the full list for those more rarely used ones. A bit easier to deal with than those unwieldy days of the older start menu that could blossom across your entire screen.

Of course my impression might be colored by using my new 2-in-1 where it works great to type on a solid keyboard but then also click with pen or my finger on the tablet when easier.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on February 20, 2016, 12:25:05 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 18, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
Upgraded.
My judgement - eww.
The start menu is badly designed. Doesn't work half as well.
What's worse is all the compatability issues. Can't sync my ipod anymore. Bah.
your could use a Startmenu replacement.  I like it the way it is, but I understand the frustrations of some people :)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: DontSayBanana on February 20, 2016, 09:42:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 19, 2016, 04:46:28 PM
I don't have any problem with the start menu. I've pinned the programs that I use most and then only need to go into the full list for those more rarely used ones. A bit easier to deal with than those unwieldy days of the older start menu that could blossom across your entire screen.

Of course my impression might be colored by using my new 2-in-1 where it works great to type on a solid keyboard but then also click with pen or my finger on the tablet when easier.

:yes: Most of the time, I don't even muck around with the start menu, since the apps are well indexed enough that I'll just start talking the app name in and run it from the search results.  On the other hand, Internet browsing using touch input is way more fluid and quick.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Josquius on February 20, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
I've never really used the start menu in the old windows xp navigating into it way.
However the search being integrated with the interent is a pain.  Doesn't seem to work so well for programs.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: garbon on March 01, 2016, 04:26:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 19, 2016, 04:46:28 PM
I don't have any problem with the start menu. I've pinned the programs that I use most and then only need to go into the full list for those more rarely used ones. A bit easier to deal with than those unwieldy days of the older start menu that could blossom across your entire screen.

Of course my impression might be colored by using my new 2-in-1 where it works great to type on a solid keyboard but then also click with pen or my finger on the tablet when easier.

Just got myself a bluetooth mouse. Cursor glides like a dream. Always bothered me that other wireless mouses had to have that little receiver bit.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: HVC on March 27, 2016, 09:22:26 PM
Built a new computer and installed windows 10. Used Spybot Beacon to disable all the tracking, although after auto-updates some of it was turned back on, which is less than pleasing. a big jump from windows 7, and i'm still getting used to it, but it seems fine so far.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on May 08, 2016, 09:44:14 PM
Does anyone know if there's a way to set up windows to use location services to automatically log you in when you're in a certain place (at home, for example)?  Internet searches turn up all sorts of unrelated things, mostly about how location services are the devil and such.

E: My camera apparently sucks too much to use the facial recognition in Windows Hello, or that would work just as well.  I'm trying something called Keylemon.  Probably going to have Russians hijacking my computer within the next 10 minutes. E2: Huh.  It works.  Well alright then.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: viper37 on May 10, 2016, 09:43:06 AM
Windows 10 is going to be 249$ come July.

And there's a strong possibility it will install by itself, without warning, before that, if you have Win7/8.1.
Might be better to do a controlled installation when you have some free time, double check that everything is working as expected.  It will avoid calling on a friend, in total panick, late at night, because Windows 10 has fucked up your printer and slowed down your very old computer ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on May 10, 2016, 11:23:02 AM
They changed it to a "Recommended" update at some point, I think.  Sneaky.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Phillip V on May 10, 2016, 10:34:12 PM
I will wait until June when my bosses are on vacation.