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#91
Off the Record / Re: Grand unified books thread
Last post by grumbler - July 15, 2025, 10:13:30 PMQuote from: Oexmelin on July 15, 2025, 03:10:54 PMLOTR or Dune, or even Star Wars to an extent, got a lot of value from the feeling we got a glimpse of a much larger universe. Our current tendency to over-explain everything reduces quite a bit the mystique and mystery of these stories.
Agreed. On of my favorite authors, Roger Zelazny, used to write a short story featuring the main characters and settings of the novel he wanted to write, and then erased the short story so that it would be in the back of his mind when he wrote the novel, but would never appear in print to ruin the mystique of the novel.
#92
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by crazy canuck - July 15, 2025, 10:11:22 PMQuote from: Tonitrus on July 15, 2025, 07:22:37 PMSo, their own law prohibiting the activity also defines said prohibition as being in contravention of the state and US constitutions?
The lawsuit to overturn it literally writes itself...
In the before times, yes.
#93
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis, Democrats?
Last post by grumbler - July 15, 2025, 10:08:44 PMCuomo id just following in the (successful) footsteps of Trump: "democracy is okay unless the election goes against me."
#94
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis, Democrats?
Last post by Admiral Yi - July 15, 2025, 09:36:11 PMZoupa, I meant in re harassment.
"The justice department found Cuomo "repeatedly subjected" women in his office to non-consensual sexual contact, ogling and gender-based nicknames. Top Cuomo staff "were aware of the conduct and retaliated against four of the women he harassed," the DOJ concluded."
From Shelf's link.
What is ogling? What is a gender based nickname? I have an idea what non censensual sexual contact is: grabbing ass, pussy or tits. Rubbing your dick on someone. Is that what Cuomo did?
"The justice department found Cuomo "repeatedly subjected" women in his office to non-consensual sexual contact, ogling and gender-based nicknames. Top Cuomo staff "were aware of the conduct and retaliated against four of the women he harassed," the DOJ concluded."
From Shelf's link.
What is ogling? What is a gender based nickname? I have an idea what non censensual sexual contact is: grabbing ass, pussy or tits. Rubbing your dick on someone. Is that what Cuomo did?
#95
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Razgovory - July 15, 2025, 09:30:45 PMWe can win on issues, but the Democratic brand is toxic.
#96
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis, Democrats?
Last post by Zoupa - July 15, 2025, 09:20:16 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 15, 2025, 08:57:04 PMI don't know what Cuomo did that was inappropriate.
5 seconds of googling:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo#Controversies
#97
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Zoupa - July 15, 2025, 09:17:56 PMThat sounds dangerously close to being unwelcoming to republicans 
#98
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis, Democrats?
Last post by Sheilbh - July 15, 2025, 09:10:30 PMFor a starter:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/26/cuomo-sexual-harassment-doj-00138140
I think it does reflect a strategic challenge for Democrats, which is that they come across as hypocritical in a lot of attack lines you might want to run on Trump and his administration.
It's tough to run a populist, anti-billionaire campaign when senior figures in the party are billionaires (or married to them) and have voted against banning Congressional stock trading (despite numerous examples of what looks suspect at best). It's tough to run on personal capacity when you spend until June of an election year arguing that not only has Joe Biden not lost a step, but that it's disgraceful to imply he has. Frankly, it's tough to go hard on Epstein when you chose to give Bill Clinton a slot at the DNC - and more generally it is challenging to go after all the men in Trump's administrations with allegations of sexual misconduct (it almost appears to be a minimum requirement) when senior figures like Clinton and Clyburn endorse someone like Cuomo.
I think here we all get there is a difference (and I think there is) between the Democrats and Trump, and would dismiss most of those arguments as whataboutery. But I don't think it's unreasonable for an average person who doesn't pay much attention to politics to come to the conclusion that the Democrats don't really mean any of it and they are all the same.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/26/cuomo-sexual-harassment-doj-00138140
I think it does reflect a strategic challenge for Democrats, which is that they come across as hypocritical in a lot of attack lines you might want to run on Trump and his administration.
It's tough to run a populist, anti-billionaire campaign when senior figures in the party are billionaires (or married to them) and have voted against banning Congressional stock trading (despite numerous examples of what looks suspect at best). It's tough to run on personal capacity when you spend until June of an election year arguing that not only has Joe Biden not lost a step, but that it's disgraceful to imply he has. Frankly, it's tough to go hard on Epstein when you chose to give Bill Clinton a slot at the DNC - and more generally it is challenging to go after all the men in Trump's administrations with allegations of sexual misconduct (it almost appears to be a minimum requirement) when senior figures like Clinton and Clyburn endorse someone like Cuomo.
I think here we all get there is a difference (and I think there is) between the Democrats and Trump, and would dismiss most of those arguments as whataboutery. But I don't think it's unreasonable for an average person who doesn't pay much attention to politics to come to the conclusion that the Democrats don't really mean any of it and they are all the same.
#99
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis, Democrats?
Last post by Admiral Yi - July 15, 2025, 08:57:04 PMI don't know what Cuomo did that was inappropriate.
#100
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis, Democrats?
Last post by Sheilbh - July 15, 2025, 08:44:41 PMI get what you mean on the party point.
But surely there were also people who objected to Cuomo's candidacy at any point? It seems to me that you could easily have an issue with Cuomo as a candidate, for very similar character reasons that you might oppose Trump holding any high office.
But surely there were also people who objected to Cuomo's candidacy at any point? It seems to me that you could easily have an issue with Cuomo as a candidate, for very similar character reasons that you might oppose Trump holding any high office.