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#1
Off the Record / Re: The 1619 Project
Last post by garbon - Today at 12:23:33 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on Today at 09:48:46 AMthe AP programmes were an attempt to remedy that

I guess this is what it was like when I took Chemistry and Physics in high school and then took AP Chemistry and AP Physics. I remember in AP (and it was the same teachers who taught me first year in both cases), it was like okay throw out all the formulas we taught you last year as those don't accurately describe any of the phenomena but were useful to get you thinking as training exercises.

I remember being so angry to have wasted so much time learning foundations than then we turned around and smashed. :lol: :blush:
#2
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Valmy - Today at 12:21:46 PM
Quote from: celedhring on Today at 12:18:18 PMYeah, gotta love that the DoD secretary is sourcing fucking social media feeds to inform abou what Trump will do. Says it all, really.

Well he is a media guy, not a military man.
#3
Off the Record / Re: The 1619 Project
Last post by Valmy - Today at 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: Barrister on Today at 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 11:27:13 AMTeaching a narrative just to immediately tear into it with critiquing skills could very easily come across as attacking and or disingenuous.

It also risks teaching students that there is no "truth", just arguments.

Which can lead to the problem we see today in politics of just picking the argument that you like - whether it is "global warming isn't true" or "modern monetary theory".

Well history is tricky that way. Just because of its limitations it is difficult to get at "truth". But that doesn't apply to fields outside of history.
#4
Off the Record / Re: The 1619 Project
Last post by HVC - Today at 12:19:36 PM
Thanks for the Extra leg work, garbon. Man, 25% rate for married black mothers is shockingly low.
#5
Off the Record / Re: The 1619 Project
Last post by Barrister - Today at 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 11:27:13 AMTeaching a narrative just to immediately tear into it with critiquing skills could very easily come across as attacking and or disingenuous.

It also risks teaching students that there is no "truth", just arguments.

Which can lead to the problem we see today in politics of just picking the argument that you like - whether it is "global warming isn't true" or "modern monetary theory".
#6
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by celedhring - Today at 12:18:18 PM
Quote from: Syt on Today at 11:31:23 AMhttps://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3li33axitkk2e

"Truths" :bleeding:

Yeah, gotta love that the DoD secretary is sourcing fucking social media feeds to inform abou what Trump will do. Says it all, really.
#7
Off the Record / Re: Elon Musk: Always A Douche
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 12:17:40 PM
That Space X contract is actually just a part of a $2.9 billion contract.  It's a contract to design and build the lander system for manned moon missions ("HLS")

Now I am as gung ho for space exploration as anyone, but on the hierarchy of human needs, it seems to me that prevention of epidemic disease outbreaks in Africa rates a bit higher than having astronauts gather more moon rocks.

Also I can't help but notice that the official description of the HLS project states that: "The Human Landing System (HLS) is the mode of transportation that will take astronauts to the lunar surface as part of the Artemis program, including the first woman and the first person of color. "

No doubt Elon will act very quickly to cancel this wasteful and evil DEI contract.
#8
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Valmy - Today at 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: HVC on Today at 12:14:54 PMMan, the 40s must have been awesome

Well...the 30s had to be pretty shit for that graph to work  :P
#9
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Valmy - Today at 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: garbon on Today at 12:07:53 PMStop and think what?

To understand the point I was trying to make?

In the 1970s we were just a few years after the Civil Rights act. We had just completed 100 years of legal and systemic attacks, and centuries of legal human trafficking and enslavement and denial of rights before that, on the opportunities of black Americans. Logically the situation the should have been far worse for black Americans than it is today. Yet somehow fifty years later despite all the opportunities that should have opened up, the situation is not significantly changed. Because of the fucking point I was making: that there existed a stronger middle class and protections for workers and higher wages then that have been stripped away.
#10
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by HVC - Today at 12:14:54 PM
Man, the 40s must have been awesome