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#91
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by HVC - July 26, 2024, 12:38:22 PM
Canadian women's soccer team got caught spying on New Zealand with a drone. :blush:
#92
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by HVC - July 26, 2024, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 26, 2024, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: HVC on July 26, 2024, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 26, 2024, 09:19:36 AMSeriously though, Vance has the face of a guy who you'd genuinely believe anything about. Anyone could make up the most absurd accusation about him and most people would look at his face and think, "Yeah, that makes sense." It's so easy to make fun of the guy.

Terrible VP pick.

People voting for trump don't care who is the VP. If it was constitutionally viable he could have picked a potted plant.
Trump will care if JD Vance's fuck ups get more airtime than him.

Trump will be pissed. But he's super insecure. Probably be jealous of the plant to if it got any air time :lol:
#93
Off the Record / Re: If you were Kamala Harris,...
Last post by Savonarola - July 26, 2024, 12:34:38 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 25, 2024, 10:17:26 PMI always think of GR as de Vos country, from my stay over in the Amway Grand Plaza.

Which is worse, being the hometown of Gerald Ford, or being the hometown of Amway?   :(

(Amway, unquestionably, if you ask me.)

When I was young they once had a "Wizard of Oz" convention the Amway Grand Plaza Convention Center; apparently the organizers thought that Judy Garland was from Grand Rapids, Michigan rather than Grand Rapids, Minnesota. (For those outside the United States, that's not that uncommon of a mistake.  Michigan's abbreviation is MI while Minnesota is MN.)
#94
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by Sheilbh - July 26, 2024, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: HVC on July 26, 2024, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 26, 2024, 09:19:36 AMSeriously though, Vance has the face of a guy who you'd genuinely believe anything about. Anyone could make up the most absurd accusation about him and most people would look at his face and think, "Yeah, that makes sense." It's so easy to make fun of the guy.

Terrible VP pick.

People voting for trump don't care who is the VP. If it was constitutionally viable he could have picked a potted plant.
Trump will care if JD Vance's fuck ups get more airtime than him.
#95
Off the Record / Re: In this thread the year is...
Last post by grumbler - July 26, 2024, 12:13:04 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 25, 2024, 05:07:56 PMI've been listening to Motown a bit lately and I came across this gem from 1985:

(snip)

I love the very old school Motown dance at the end.  In the golden age the dance master constructed the dances around a series of simple steps that anyone could remember.  Even something that looks as cool as opening to the Temptations Walk was just all of them pretending to dig twice on one side and then switch to the other.

I remember the song being a hit, but I thought it was a love song to a woman named Jackie (:lol:).  I didn't know who Marvin Gaye or Jackie Wilson were (they had both died the year before.)  I also didn't know who the Commodores were and, as far as I knew, Lionel Richie had always been a solo artist.  I'm glad they were able to go on without him, and actually make one of the Commodore's best songs.

Great choice.  I'd remembered that as a 1970s song, but was out of the country when released so wasn't really aware of it until the late 80s, by which time it was "old."
#96
Off the Record / Re: If you were Kamala Harris,...
Last post by grumbler - July 26, 2024, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 25, 2024, 10:17:26 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 25, 2024, 04:33:07 PMThe joke is that Whitmer (and Gerald Ford) are from Michigan and therefore, from my perspective, have no accent.  (Actually we all grew up in the same city, Grand Rapids, I'm just the under-achiever. ;) )

I always think of GR as de Vos country, from my stay over in the Amway Grand Plaza.

Western Michigan used to have some of the most liberal counties in the state.  They've now completely inverted that.
#97
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by grumbler - July 26, 2024, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on July 26, 2024, 10:08:31 AMThe West Bank is Israel, it has nothing to "grab."

Ah, the old lebensraum argument.  The only disadvantage to that is that no nation other than Israel believes it.  It's even less popular than the Russian claims that Donetsk, etc are Russia.
#98
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by grumbler - July 26, 2024, 11:55:06 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 26, 2024, 09:19:36 AMSeriously though, Vance has the face of a guy who you'd genuinely believe anything about. Anyone could make up the most absurd accusation about him and most people would look at his face and think, "Yeah, that makes sense." It's so easy to make fun of the guy.

Terrible VP pick.

OTOH, Vance has absolutely no principals and will change his stand on any issue to whatever stand is more popular on a moment's notice.  He's notably less scrupled than even your average MAGAt, which has to be a benefit when paired with a presidential candidate as unscrupulous as Trump.
#99
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by DGuller - July 26, 2024, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 26, 2024, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 26, 2024, 03:15:38 AM
Quote from: Josquius on July 26, 2024, 03:03:21 AMIsrael is the one with agency in this situation.

Hamas could stop fighting and hide.
Or you know, they could surrender.  Even the Confederates and the Nazis had the decency to surrender.
To be fair, the Confederates and the Nazis didn't have sympathizers all over the world with ability to project political power on their enemies.
#100
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by grumbler - July 26, 2024, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 26, 2024, 09:02:09 AMI don't see how there could be any deal without some provision for how Gaza is governed when Israel is withdrawn.  That is fundamental. 

The plan proposes negotiations regarding that to occur between phases 1 and 2; i.e. it punts on the issue to get a ceasefire in place (for 6 weeks).