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#21
Off the Record / Re: NHL Hockey thread
Last post by Barrister - Today at 12:01:21 AM
well fuck.

1-1 Jets Avs
#22
Off the Record / Re: Indian Elections 2024
Last post by Barrister - April 23, 2024, 11:37:09 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 23, 2024, 06:36:41 PMSO I think that the BJP and Hindu nationalism are politically-manufactured artifices that really don't stand up to the least bit of actual religious examination.

So I feel like I've said this kind of thing before:

I don't want to make a religious criticism of a non-Christian religion.  Because, of course, I could make a pretty basic critique that it's obviously false because they Hindus don't follow Christ.

But even beyond that - I could make a critique of Catholics and Orthodox because they don't follow the (obviously) true Protestant faith.

Or even within protestantism, there is of course all kinds of room for criticism (and this is where I don't know where I'd place myself anyways).

So I have no doubt that the BJP can be subject to religious criticism.  But I also don't doubt that I am in no way the person to make that criticism.  I merely attempted to observe, without criticism, what their position was.
#23
Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread
Last post by HVC - April 23, 2024, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 23, 2024, 12:58:39 PMJust finished Shogun.

I'll be shocked if this doesn't win a shit ton of awards.

Deservedly so.
#24
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Admiral Yi - April 23, 2024, 08:49:57 PM
Quote from: viper37 on April 23, 2024, 08:29:37 PMI remember plenty of protests against war that turned violent.

I do remember reading about riots during the US Civil War and then during the Vietnam war.

Between a riot an "Burn tel Aviv to the ground"  I think I'll take the moron with the hate speech.

Besides, isn't hate speech protected in the US?  Isn't this a value deer to the right and particularly the GOP and its supporters, without any limits?

"Kill the enemy" is not an anti war slogan.  It's a pro war slogan.
#25
Off the Record / Re: Lost books
Last post by Tonitrus - April 23, 2024, 08:46:10 PM
Mark Twain wrote enough travel journals and such, you could easily argue his entire body of work comprises a memoir.  :P

But I'd be seriously interested specifically in Lincoln writing his retrospective on being President during the ACW. 
#26
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by viper37 - April 23, 2024, 08:29:37 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 23, 2024, 07:54:30 PM"Burn Tel Aviv to the ground" is a very unorthodox anti-war slogan
I remember plenty of protests against war that turned violent.

I do remember reading about riots during the US Civil War and then during the Vietnam war.

Between a riot an "Burn tel Aviv to the ground"  I think I'll take the moron with the hate speech.

Besides, isn't hate speech protected in the US?  Isn't this a value dear to everyone and particularly the GOP and its supporters, without any limits?
#27
Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread
Last post by Tonitrus - April 23, 2024, 07:55:25 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 23, 2024, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 23, 2024, 11:28:20 AM
Quote from: Syt on April 23, 2024, 11:23:48 AMThinking about it some more, I guess the "average Joe" series are mostly workplace comedies now? The Office, Superstore, etc?
I think so.

But I was thinking about your post and how we've shifted. Were there any sitcoms about friends or flatmates etc (not family and not colleagues) before the 90s? I can't think of any off the top of my head :hmm:

Edit: Actually in a British context - maybe Hancock's Half Hour and Rising Damp.

Three's company


Bosom Buddies (with Tom Hanks), Perfect Strangers, maybe Mork & Mindy?  Also Laverne & Shirley.


(I watched way too much TV as a kid.)
#28
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Razgovory - April 23, 2024, 07:54:30 PM
"Burn Tel Aviv to the ground" is a very unorthodox anti-war slogan
#29
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by viper37 - April 23, 2024, 07:53:32 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 22, 2024, 11:28:05 PMSlogans heard at Columbia:

"We say justice, you say how? Burn Tel Aviv to the ground!"

"Al-Qassam you make us proud! Take another soldier out!"

"Hamas, we love you! We support your rockets, too!"

"Red, black, green, and white, we support Hamas' fight!"

"It is right to rebel, al-Qassam, give them hell!

Not that catchy, but Josq has told me that nobody supports Hamas.
Ohhh.  University students have radical leftists spouting anti war slogans!

It's a first!  Stop the press!
#30
Off the Record / Re: Indian Elections 2024
Last post by Razgovory - April 23, 2024, 07:41:15 PM
Quote from: Josquius on April 23, 2024, 04:24:58 PMBased off my experiences with one Indian guy (so yeah. He could just be a werido) Islam as the foreign invaders religion certainly seems to be key to the hate.
I remember a few times he spoke about how great things were in ancient India, free love peace and glory, until the fire nat... Muslims invaded.

I get the feeling that some of it might be displacement of some of the post colonial inferiority complex about the UK since English and other colonial introductions are so core to India they can't really be challenged nor would it be wise to.
Islam on the other hand is a far safer target to bash.
So it's just more decolonization stuff?