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#91
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Admiral Yi - April 25, 2024, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: Josquius on April 25, 2024, 03:09:16 AMThe issue isn't whether these people are cunts. They obviously are.
Its those pointing to them and going "See! See! Anyone who dares to speak against Israel is like this! Anti zionism is anti semitism!"

It's not either or.

And from my viewing of he media there are significant portions of the population that do not think the protestors yelling genocide slogans are cunts.  So it's not obvious to them.

#92
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Tamas - April 25, 2024, 04:15:19 PM
Situation is so desperate developers are willing to build flats above and around listed ruins but that idea is of course also rejectex: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/25/ludicrous-plan-to-build-skyscraper-over-georgian-building-in-birmingham-rejected
#93
Gaming HQ / Re: New Paradox Tinto Game? EU...
Last post by Zanza - April 25, 2024, 04:11:51 PM
Thinking about it a bit more, it might make sense. Two big complaints about EU4 is trade and not much to do in peacetime. This might solve both.
#94
Off the Record / Re: Life on the Rails
Last post by Gups - April 25, 2024, 04:02:13 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on April 25, 2024, 03:57:50 PMAnd it's official I am going to Knorr-Bremse.  They haven't picked out an official name for North American Operations.  I'm hoping for "From Soup to Brakes"; but it probably won't be.




Nice one Sav. Good luck
#95
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Sheilbh - April 25, 2024, 04:01:18 PM
'Seagull Boy', nine, wins European screeching competition:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-68874762

The video is really remarkable :lol:
#96
Off the Record / Re: Life on the Rails
Last post by Savonarola - April 25, 2024, 03:57:50 PM
And it's official I am going to Knorr-Bremse.  They haven't picked out an official name for North American Operations.  I'm hoping for "From Soup to Brakes"; but it probably won't be.


#97
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Gups - April 25, 2024, 03:49:35 PM
Charlton Athletic. I wouldn't bother if I were you
#98
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by FunkMonk - April 25, 2024, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Gups on April 25, 2024, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 25, 2024, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: Josquius on April 25, 2024, 02:06:29 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 25, 2024, 09:28:28 AM:

but I also feel for you and I know how much it sucks to have your club be shit and be everyone's joke :cry:  :hug:


... As an arsenal fan or as a fan of another team?
As I don't think arsenal have ever been at that level in their entire history (though could be wrong digging back to before anyone on the board was born sort of times)

I mean, other people are allowed to feel sad about their football club.

Don't know they're born. Chelsea behave been in two cup semis this season. I've supported my club for 48 years and haven't seen us in one. Fans of prem clubs, especially those who chose them because they were successful, get zero sympathy from me.

What is your club? Is there a way I could watch or support them?
#99
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Gups - April 25, 2024, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 25, 2024, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: Josquius on April 25, 2024, 02:06:29 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 25, 2024, 09:28:28 AM:

but I also feel for you and I know how much it sucks to have your club be shit and be everyone's joke :cry:  :hug:


... As an arsenal fan or as a fan of another team?
As I don't think arsenal have ever been at that level in their entire history (though could be wrong digging back to before anyone on the board was born sort of times)

I mean, other people are allowed to feel sad about their football club.

Don't know they're born. Chelsea behave been in two cup semis this season. I've supported my club for 48 years and haven't seen us in one. Fans of prem clubs, especially those who chose them because they were successful, get zero sympathy from me.
#100
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Razgovory - April 25, 2024, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: Josquius on April 25, 2024, 02:37:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 25, 2024, 02:25:52 PMThe Palestinians do have a right to self government, and maybe they'll get it when they stop fighting.  We weren't going to bring up the German right to self-determination in 1945."

Yeah sure. The Palestinians are the problem. They just need to stop resisting whilst their lands get seized then they'll definitely get their country back.
And you can absolutely guarantee getting every single one of millions of people to behave is possible.

QuoteOut and out traditional Nazis?  No, way more people oppose the Jews a right to a country than that. More people oppose Jews breathing than that.

I notice you keep dodging the awkward question here.
Why do zionists do expecially have a right to a country that they can seize bits of another people's wouldbe country at will?
QuoteFor people who oppose the Jews the right to a country I would write down "The Muslim world".  They make up the majority of the anti-Zionist population.  Some do recognize that Israel is stronger than they are and can't be immediately destroyed, but few recognize that Jews have a right to self determination like any other country.  I could add a multitude of others such as those who believe in anti-colonialism and a large number of Communists, but most of the people who are so interested in Israel that they identify themselves as "anti-zionist" aren't primarily interested in criticizing the Israeli judicial system.  They want the whole thing gone.
We clearly aren't talking about the Muslim world here though. We are talking about in the west.

And no. I recognise you watch incredibly one sided sources on this topic but there's a lot more nuance to criticism of zionism than that.

The Palestinians are the problem.  They were the ones to refuse in 1948.  They were the ones to refuse in 2000.  They were the ones to refuse in 2006.

Why do the Israelis have the right to cease other bits of other people's countries at will?  They don't.  They shouldn't do that.  They wouldn't be able to do that if the Palestinians had accepted the treaty in 2000, but they chose more bloodshed instead.

We are talking about Anti-zionists so we are obviously talking about Muslims.  They are the main constituency here, not you.  You are the fringe.  In the West we have Muslims, left-wing extremists, radical students and a few pearl-clutching affluent labor party members.