Former CIA and NSA employee source of intelligence leaks

[CountDeMoney]

Nadler's confusion is a little bit suprising - the FISA amendments which added the latter provision went through the House Judiciary Committee - of which he is a member - in 2008.

He probably didn't have an aide available to explain it to him.

[Iormlund]

All you need to know about NSA surveillance: an infographic.

[Razgovory]

Well, he does look a wee bit like Tamas' long lost brother.

Tamas has lost his Libertarian credentials.

[Siege]

Isn't libertarian something bad?
Like communism or something?

[Admiral Yi]

Depends who you talk to.

[Razgovory]

Isn't libertarian something bad?
Like communism or something?

Not Good, but better then communist.

[Viking]

Isn't libertarian something bad?
Like communism or something?

I would say they were opposites but, the opposite of "libertarian" is either "communist" or, more commonly "sane person" - which is, conveniently the opposite of "communist" as well.

[Admiral Yi]

The opposite of Libertarianism is Statism.

[DGuller]

Isn't libertarian something bad?
Like communism or something?

Not Good, but better then communist.

They're about equal.  Thankfully for libertarians, they haven't had a chance to put their brand of insanity into practice, so their ideology is still seen as mostly harmless intellectual masturbation.

[Razgovory]

Isn't libertarian something bad?
Like communism or something?

Not Good, but better then communist.

They're about equal.  Thankfully for libertarians, they haven't had a chance to put their brand of insanity into practice, so their ideology is still seen as mostly harmless intellectual masturbation.

Tell that to the millions of people who were slaves.   Libertarian dystopia is the ante-bellum US south.

[garbon]

Isn't libertarian something bad?
Like communism or something?

Not Good, but better then communist.

They're about equal.  Thankfully for libertarians, they haven't had a chance to put their brand of insanity into practice, so their ideology is still seen as mostly harmless intellectual masturbation.

Tell that to the millions of people who were slaves.   Libertarian dystopia is the ante-bellum US south.

Slaves suffered both coercion and violence, with no liberty at all.

[Razgovory]

Libertarians are only really concerned from coercion and violence from the state.

[CountDeMoney]

Libertarians are only really concerned from coercion and violence from the state.

Well, who's a libertarian to say whether a slave suffers from coercion and violence?  Isn't that the slave's business?

[Razgovory]

I've read several Libertarian tracts on the evils of Abraham Lincoln.  I've even read theories supporting "voluntary slavery".

[garbon]

I've even read theories supporting "voluntary slavery".

Yeah but that'd still be another thing. That's at least positing some sort of indentured servitude that one can theoretically enter into out of one's free will. Still kinda bonkers but not the same as saying that the ante-bellum south is a libertarian's paradise. After all, there was coercion by the gov't that kept slaves as slaves.