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Jury acquits escort shooter

Started by jimmy olsen, June 06, 2013, 06:09:24 PM

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Caliga

That's it? :huh:

I actually liked having to go to the class.  Interacting with all of the other fine applicants made me realize that shall-issue licensing is actually a pretty bad idea. :bowler:
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Quote from: Neil on June 06, 2013, 08:02:19 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2013, 07:02:43 PM
That's not my actual gun, just a pic I found on Google of the model.
You can tell because all of the parts seem to be attached.

:lol:

Caliga

Don't make me have to go get it, people. :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2013, 09:05:46 PM
That's it? :huh:

I actually liked having to go to the class.  Interacting with all of the other fine applicants made me realize that shall-issue licensing is actually a pretty bad idea. :bowler:

Amazing in a state like Washington. I think it would drive me up a wall going to a class/range for a CCW.
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Quote from: Neil on June 06, 2013, 08:02:19 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2013, 07:02:43 PM
That's not my actual gun, just a pic I found on Google of the model.
You can tell because all of the parts seem to be attached.
:lmfao:

MadBurgerMaker

Quote from: katmai on June 06, 2013, 06:59:09 PM
Where is MBM, this was in San Antonio area so he should have heard all about this case.

Didn't know about it till this thread.

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Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 06, 2013, 11:34:46 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 06, 2013, 06:59:09 PM
Where is MBM, this was in San Antonio area so he should have heard all about this case.

Didn't know about it till this thread.

Dammit man, start watching the local news!
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Quote from: katmai on June 06, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 06, 2013, 11:34:46 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 06, 2013, 06:59:09 PM
Where is MBM, this was in San Antonio area so he should have heard all about this case.

Didn't know about it till this thread.

Dammit man, start watching the local news!

Barf. I watched a few minutes tonight after the Spurs game. It reminded me how much local news sucks.

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Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 06, 2013, 08:26:17 PM
I bet if the shooter was the ethnicy one and the escort was the white one, the verdict wouldn't turned out differently.

Well that was Bexar county where minorities make up well over 60% of the population.  After all the judge and the white dude's lawyers were Latinos.  Not to say they weren't self-loathing...

A rather ridiculous interpretation of a ridiculous law to be sure.
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Quote from: Berkut on June 06, 2013, 08:11:01 PM
Here is the relevant penal code. Note for all our foreign friends this is Texas state law. Most states do not allow you to blow people away for stealing from you, even at night:

Yeah the intent of that law is not to allow you to enforce illegal transactions.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Berkut on June 06, 2013, 08:32:53 PM
His defense had nothing to do with any claim that he felt his life was in danger. In Texas, you are allowed to kill people even if you don't think they pose any threat to you at all.

But just like in the Martin case, the fucked up gun culture that turns shooting people into an act of moral courage has created these laws that can be used to cover what any sane person would consider to be clearly homicide.

I don't think the people who write these laws are thinking "Sweet! This will let white boys kill latino hookers!" but they do have this stupid veneration for the mythos of the brave gun owner nad his AR-15 protecting his property and life from the imagined forces of chaos, and they create these fucked up laws to "protect" them from being prosecuted for it, and of course it leads to incredible results like this one.

I don't think this dipshit killed her because he thought the law protected him, anymore than I think Zimmerman really thought he needed to kill Martin to protect his life. They both acted out of a sever case of the stupids, and they were both stupids with guns, so they murdered someone.

The idea of using these laws to then get away with it comes afterwards.

It is really bizarre because, after all, the jury system is supposed to prevent these sorts of idiotic interpretations.

But the whole stand your ground law was recent.  This law is from the 70s and I am pretty sure has never been used this way and I am not even sure how the text could be interpreted that way.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

MadBurgerMaker

Quote from: Valmy on June 07, 2013, 07:33:17 AM
This law is from the 70s and I am pretty sure has never been used this way and I am not even sure how the text could be interpreted that way.

Yeah, this definitely seems like a new way of looking at this thing.  It might just be a case of some super slick lawyerin, combined with stupid people on the jury.  All I've read are news articles though, which always seem to suck.

MadBurgerMaker

Did he not get hit with any sort of prostitution/solicitation/whatever charge?  :huh:

Scipio

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 06, 2013, 08:46:14 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2013, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 06, 2013, 08:38:36 PM
That's doesn't comfort me like you think it should.
I don't care whether it comforts you or not, but I figured I should mention it since you brought it up in that totally uncalled-for ad hom you threw at me when you replied. :)

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